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Antiochus Epiphanes
December 26th, 2003, 02:17 PM
So far here is who is doing something:

-propagandists like Alex Linder, Wolzek. Thank you gentlemen for your leadership and making this discussion possible.
-financial supporters who keep it quiet. you know who you are. this includes dues payers. thanks for your support.
-technical and admin staff and other contractors like Tom on this board. thank you. you know who you are. please do a good job and lets see if we can do better.
-a few bold men who have been actively involved in politics as open WN. Jim Giles and Martin Lindstedt at this forum. WHO ELSE WILL LEAD?
- a few others have discussed real life involvement such as "RANDOLPH" who has an idea for Michigan politics. Who will step forward and get together with him on this project?
Also one "J" says he has volunteered in mainstream elections. Who else will do so? You dont need to do it openly if you're just doing it to learn, but please report back to this forum on your involvement, without including details that will compromise your position. WHO WILL LEAD?

I'm not asking for pussies, or do-nothings, or net-peckers. MEN stand forth and show that you are willing to work and not just talk? Or is this merely a bunch of goddamned teenagers, misfits, nobodies? Or perhaps among you misfits, teenagers, and nobodies, there are MEN GROWING INSIDE YOU! Transform yourself into MEN OF ACTION!

William Robert
December 26th, 2003, 02:53 PM
Wow, That's the best post I've read all day. Possibly the best post ever discussing our realistic situation of struggling through our growth, which potentially, could be explosive, if managed right. I can speak from personal experience on this. The potential is definately here.

I certainly would like to offer everything at my disposal to further our cause and I think that there are a lot of Billy Bob's out there like me who feel the same way.
So far here is who is doing something:

-propagandists like Alex Linder, Wolzek. Thank you gentlemen for your leadership and making this discussion possible.
-financial supporters who keep it quiet. you know who you are. this includes dues payers. thanks for your support.
-technical and admin staff and other contractors like Tom on this board. thank you. you know who you are. please do a good job and lets see if we can do better.
-a few bold men who have been actively involved in politics as open WN. Jim Giles and Martin Lindstedt at this forum. WHO ELSE WILL LEAD?
- a few others have discussed real life involvement such as "RANDOLPH" who has an idea for Michigan politics. Who will step forward and get together with him on this project?
Also one "J" says he has volunteered in mainstream elections. Who else will do so? You dont need to do it openly if you're just doing it to learn, but please report back to this forum on your involvement, without including details that will compromise your position. WHO WILL LEAD?

I'm not asking for pussies, or do-nothings, or net-peckers. MEN stand forth and show that you are willing to work and not just talk? Or is this merely a bunch of goddamned teenagers, misfits, nobodies? Or perhaps among you misfits, teenagers, and nobodies, there are MEN GROWING INSIDE YOU! Transform yourself into MEN OF ACTION!

Randolph
December 26th, 2003, 04:21 PM
There are a possible 30-40 leaders on this forum taht can do something. No one is asking you to do anything that will threaten your paycheck. Just be sensible and go out and talk with others about:

immigration
welfare
afirmative action

These three areas offer many ways to get your point across without actually saying things that would be called racist.

Many white people are already under a heavy debt load that will be close to unbearable once the Federal Reserve begin to raise rates next year. There will be alot of pent up resentment to paying for welfare for immigrants or paying for their children's public school expenses.

In the State of Michigan, the proposal to ban racial preferences can be put on the ballot. The blacks on the radio shows are already spewing out the propaganda that if this proposal gets passed, their world is going to end. The blacks are ready to fight tooth and nail to prevent this proposal from ever getting on the ballot. This is the single most important issue in 2004 for our race. If we win, we have everything going for us for further gains. If we do not get this on the ballot, the blacks will get the message that they can go for more of our hard earned money.

It is time for real leadership to step up. I do not care if you and I do not agree on economics, the main issue is the get this ban of racial preferences on the ballot.

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=320

William Robert
December 26th, 2003, 04:35 PM
That is to be respected and applauded.

I would agree with your careful wording as to not arouse suspicion on the enemy's part. Yes of course we all need to "go out" and discuss the relevant issues, that are most dear to our hearts.

I would encourage all of our people to generate their own paychecks as soon as possible. The reason, we fail, is because of the effect that the federal reserve note has on peoples lives. Many are opting-in to the enemies system of slavery, because they are being enticed with, easy paychecks, easy living, easy time, as opposed to "HARD TIME". That is the real choice that most self-serving white monkeys are faced with. Come on randolph, people are sheeple, they love to be herded, controlled, and fleeced. Aint that many thinking folks like you or the other 20 or 30 out there. I would have hoped your numbers would have been higher than that. That's ok. Once the fundamental flaws in your organizational stucture have been properly identified, the "hidden trolls" can be eliminated, a secure communications structure can be established, and order can be restored.

Just keep "studying the problem".

It will start to become more clear to all of us very quickly here.

Name the place and time. Let's make it happen.

We know we can control our individual destinies.

Can we collectively control our destiny as a racial tribal brethren?
There are a possible 30-40 leaders on this forum taht can do something. No one is asking you to do anything that will threaten your paycheck. Just be sensible and go out and talk with others about:

immigration
welfare
afirmative action

These three areas offer many ways to get your point across without actually saying things that would be called racist.

Many white people are already under a heavy debt load that will be close to unbearable once the Federal Reserve begin to raise rates next year. There will be alot of pent up resentment to paying for welfare for immigrants or paying for their children's public school expenses.

In the State of Michigan, the proposal to ban racial preferences can be put on the ballot. The blacks on the radio shows are already spewing out the propaganda that if this proposal gets passed, their world is going to end. The blacks are ready to fight tooth and nail to prevent this proposal from ever getting on the ballot. This is the single most important issue in 2004 for our race. If we win, we have everything going for us for further gains. If we do not get this on the ballot, the blacks will get the message that they can go for more of our hard earned money.

It is time for real leadership to step up. I do not care if you and I do not agree on economics, the main issue is the get this ban of racial preferences on the ballot.

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=320

Worker
December 27th, 2003, 09:45 PM
PRECEPTS OF LEADERSHIP



1. The most important principle of leadership is to lead by example. If at all possible, a leader should have already done that which he will ask others to do.

2. The best leaders, more often than not, "come up through the ranks." They lead by example and by experience.

3. An indispensable principle is that the leader believe absolutely in the cause for which he is to fight. The devotion of a leader is transferred to his men.

4. A leader must not observe, but rather share with his men that which they are to endure. Leadership does not consist of commanding, but of leading.

5. The man who will not do himself, that which he asks others to do, is a commander, not a leader.

6. There is no room for the theorist in a good leader. His successes are measured by accomplishments, not by theories. Good ideas are those that work, all others are for speculators.

7. Leaders are not given respect, they earn it. If there is no respect from the ranks, then the leader must look to himself for the answer as to why.

8. The man who after serious thought and deliberation envisions himself a leader, usually is not, or he would already be leading instead of contemplating doing so.

9. There are men who seem to be "born leaders," as well as men who are born leading. The former possess a natural ability and talent from the beginning, the latter by training and experience.

10. A leader is not an island unto himself, he understands people and what motivates them. Praise and recognition is given by him to men who are successful, concern and help to those who fail. Men in the ranks are always given a second chance to prove themselves. No man who has given it his all should be judged harshly upon a single incident that may have been subject to the vicissitudes of life.

11. The hardest task for a competent leader is to delegate authority. Doing so, where possible, is what makes him superior to those leaders that can not.

12. A truly brilliant leader, is always looking for his replacement.

by Louis Beam, Reprinted from The Seditionist

Antiochus Epiphanes
December 30th, 2003, 07:20 PM
Excellent quote from Mr Beam. For those who havent read them, I recommend the essays "Leaderless Resistance" and also "Revolutionary Minorities."

My point to this thread is to invite people to pledge to do a particular thing and then go out and do it. If they want to come back here and brag, then let them show forth their mighty deeds.

I'm not soliciting anything illegal. No sirree.

I am saying, who will run like Jim Giles and Martin Lindstedt, as an openly pro-White candidate? When and for what office? Let that person step lead by example and they will be acclaimed here and others will be notified of the opportunity to aid them.

For those who wish to keep it clandestine, fine, just come on here and identify some specific items that will be done such as "I am going to volunteer in the local Republican surveyor campaign so that I can learn how to register and run as a local candidate in the next election cycle. I will not be sharing my views so that I can clandestinely learn as much as possible."

MartinLindstedt
January 7th, 2004, 02:27 AM
Excellent quote from Mr Beam. For those who havent read them, I recommend the essays "Leaderless Resistance" and also "Revolutionary Minorities."

My point to this thread is to invite people to pledge to do a particular thing and then go out and do it. If they want to come back here and brag, then let them show forth their mighty deeds.

I'm not soliciting anything illegal. No sirree.

For those who wish to keep it clandestine, fine, just come on here and identify some specific items that will be done such as "I am going to volunteer in the local Republican surveyor campaign so that I can learn how to register and run as a local candidate in the next election cycle. I will not be sharing my views so that I can clandestinely learn as much as possible."


A couple of years ago I was feuding again with Michael Hoffman over Hoffman having dumped 2,000 lurkers on his e-mail list because only seven of them had come up with $10 or more for a brand-new 19" computer monitor Hoffman wanted them to pay for. He then annoyed Jim Floyd by claiming that "'shade-tree' and 'garage-level' writers and intellectuals were not needed," that what was needed were NY Times edjewcated professional intelligencia like Hoffman, who had a 'right' to be paid and paid well for their endeavors.


http://www.martinlindstedt.org/hfmnbegs.html
http://users.mo-net.com/mlindste/jf011300.html

Jim Floyd pointed out that it is the local men, living honorable lives worthy of emulation, who are the real movers and shakers in their communities, and who accomplished that which needed accomplishing.

==============Jim Floyd+++++++++++++++

Digression

Yes, Mr Hoffman the third, you sweet darling you, it will be the plumbers, shade-tree auto mechanics and encylopedia-sellers. It will be those old, untrained, unprofessional journalists, scribbling on the Inter-net who will change things. Those unsung heroes of this cause who read 700 page books and then run-up un-godly phone bills passing the word around the world.

It will be those people with money who focus on a project with laser accuracy and bravely throw themselves and their own money behind it. Don't you know that patriots, dissidents, revisionist et. al. are sick and fed-up with wanna-be-leaders telling them to "drop all yo projects, forget what you are trying to do, bring yo billfold, and come and join me." They are sick of it Michael, you better write and send-out an apology, now! You whining . . . naw, that's enough.
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Leadership is best done locally. Before trying to save the entire White race on the planet, it is best to work to save your own family, then your community families from the predations of ZOG. Leadership is learned and developed.

--Martin Lindstedt
http://users.mo-net.com/mlindste/
http://www.martinlindstedt.org/

Antiochus Epiphanes
January 7th, 2004, 11:02 AM
Leadership is best done locally. Before trying to save the entire White race on the planet, it is best to work to save your own family, then your community families from the predations of ZOG. Leadership is learned and developed.

--Martin Lindstedt

Wise words from Mr Lindstedt. I hope that some people on this board will discuss what they have done in their local geographic area in the world. Cyberspace is only a medium of communication, an erstatz community compared to real bodies in real space with the usual reasons to associate.

Hitler193
January 10th, 2004, 05:19 PM
Im a whtie MAN, I am ready to die for my cause, i corrupt people every minute and even as we speak. Im ready to lead any1 who will follow i have no fear of death, my dream is a white country.

Antiochus Epiphanes
January 12th, 2004, 11:50 AM
Im a whtie MAN, I am ready to die for my cause, i corrupt people every minute and even as we speak. Im ready to lead any1 who will follow i have no fear of death, my dream is a white country.

Perhaps you are. But are you willing to do something less, like maybe keep your beliefs to yourself, infiltrate a local election volunteer staff to learn important skills, work quietly and hard for little or no thanks, without trying to "convert" anyone or beat your breast, all in the service of some long off future goal of contributing to a WN candidate the skills that you diligently acquired through your hard work, unpaid, manfully biting your lip in the service of acquiring needed skills for your people?

It's easy to beat your breast, pledge eternal honor, and then do nothing. It's hard to lay low and work hard over time to build up tiny bricks in the real wall of power that we need to protect our race.

I'm not asking for martyrs, or illegal actions, I'm asking for steady diligent hard work and participation in the things which are open to us to spread the message.

Sometimes leadership means doing humble hard work quietly. Talk is cheap. In this thread I want to invite people to quit dreaming about being the next Horst Wessell or Erich Hartmann and instead become busy worker bees to build us a new White hive. A new White hive is a damn good thing to want to work for, and it can only be built with work.

Kind Lampshade Maker
September 22nd, 2008, 05:40 AM
immigration
welfare
afirmative action...


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