The Racialist's Wager

[Thomas Ainsworth]

For a long time I've contemplated the wager of Blaise Pascal which postulates that even though God cannot be proven through reason, humans should still believe in his existence. The basis for this is fear, namely, as from what I understand the wager works something like this:

"If one believes in God, and God exists, one will go to heaven."

"If one believes in God, and God does not exist, one will die and nothing will happen."

"If one does not believe in God, and God exists, one will die and go to hell as punishment."

"If one does not believe in God, and God does not exist, one will die and nothing will happen."

To this day I have not seen a more compelling argument for religion. Although it suffers from a false dilemma, as there could be more to it than heaven, hell, and nothing, and more likely there is. At the same time, like I said, compared to other pro-faith arguments I've heard over my short life, Pascal's Wager is the best, well constructed and compelling.

Now, if I were to apply it to a racial concept, it would go something like this:

"If a state believes in the value of race, and the value of race exists, nothing will happen to the sanctity of this value."

"If a state believes in the value of race, and the value of race does not exist, nothing will happen, either."

"If a state does not believe in the value of race, but the value of race exists, then that value will be lost and the attributes it holds"

"If a state does not believe in the value of race, and the value of race does not exist, nothing will happen."

I think this best illustrates my reasoning as to why I adhere to the cause. When it comes to nature if it can be avoided, we as natures products should never leave something as important to chance. Anti-racists and multiracialists are in effect the ones in a 50/50 probability of chaos or a mundane world in a best case scenario, whereas the worst that could happen in a world of the racialists creation is a status quo.

What do you all think of my spin on Blaise Pascal's Wager?

[Johnny James]

I don't have much time to flesh this out, since I'm at work, but here's my thoughts on the matter, since it is something of particular interest to me.

The aforementioned wager is my basis for my belief in god or gods; but it is not the basis for morals, as well. That is the quandary that has troubled me the most when I think about theology. Yes, I agree, that god's existence is a probability where it would be most beneficial to acknowledge rather than deny, as the amount of effort involved in belief is negligible while the amount of possible risk is great, i.e., eternal damnation. But what does that say about morality? Where does one derive his morality from, and is it inherent to the actual belief? Does mere belief automatically entail morality, as in Natural Law, or in ones behavior according to the ideal image of god, or a perfect being? Because it is, obviously, a lot easier to act immorally, whether one acknowledges the existence of god or not.

The same applies to race. Obviously, it is to play it safe marrying and having children with an individual of the same race to yourself as it preserves certain abilities, regardless if race is a genuine value, regardless if the state sanctions it. Of course, it is impossible to tell immediately if an amalgamation of all races would lead to any benefit on the individual and societal level. But it has been shown quite plainly that when racial-preservation was government sanctioned (say, pre-1967) or unsanctioned, say, Renaissance Italy, society underwent a "Golden Age." To that end, when the sanctity and value of race was neither preserved or enforced, whether the state believed in it or not, the quality of life as a whole has deteriorated, i.e., America, circa 2009. Whereby it's pretty clear that playing it safe has little risk, just like believe in god.

But my question is: if believing in god is inherently moral (since I cannot fathom how mere belief in god would ensure that one was granted salvation unless there were moral stipulations involved, this of course, being the most difficult part of theology for me, since I hate organized religion), then similarly, is believing in the sanctity of race inherently moral, because, again, it is much easier to go out and screw whatever dink or mud, but to do so would be immoral. It must me. I like to argue that because belief in god would necessarily drive one to imitate god, for god would be all-powerful and one would necessarily take the steps to avoid going against god, then similarly racialism is an attempt to imitate god, since god is ideal, and there is, quite frankly, nothing more ideal than, say, the Aryan man or woman, blonde haired, blue eyed, with perfect features, the proven talent for artistry, architecture, music and writing: i.e., the creative abilities that belong wholly to god. Therein the Aryan man is god in himself. Or, going on my esoteric beliefs, the Aryan man is descended from god, or an extraterrestrial creative being that created this breed of man that is so far removed from the other races.

Therefore I think that miscegenation is immoral because it deteriorates the offspring's capacity to imitate god, both in appearance (as a mulatto is nothing compared to a pretty White girl) and in ability not only to replicate the divine through works of hand and creativity, but to even conceive the divine beyond organized religions. Miscegenation is akin to the rise of degenerate modern art, as it replaces beauty with ugliness, and not by coincidence, often features images offensive to ideas of the divine, whereas much of European art was devoted to the divine.

Just some thoughts.

[Rick Ronsavelle]

If you play that Pascal's wager game, G-d will know about it, and you will go to hell.

Pascal played, and was sent to hell. There the devil suggested that Pascal change his first name to BLAZE.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=pascal%27s+wager+refuted&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g1

[Mike in Denver]

"If one believes in God, and God exists, one will go to heaven."
"If one believes in God, and God does not exist, one will die and nothing will happen."
"If one does not believe in God, and God exists, one will die and go to hell as punishment."
"If one does not believe in God, and God does not exist, one will die and nothing will happen."

"If one believes in Odin, and Odin exists, one will go to Valhalla."
"If one believes in Odin, and Odin does not exist, one will die and nothing will happen."
"If one does not believe in Odin, and Odin exists, one will die and go to Helheim as punishment."
"If one does not believe in Odin, and Odin does not exist, one will die and nothing will happen."

Ditto Ahura Mazda, Vishnu, Mithris, H. L. Hubbard.

All the same.

Mike

[Brendan LeRoy]

We must aways remember that equality is important. All (wo)men are created equal... regardless of race, sexual orientation, disability etc...

Love thy Earth.

[Thomas Ainsworth]

Those who invade from foreign lands, no matter how "equal" they are or seem, are to be extirpated, physically. If they refuse or take up arms, they must be exterminated, physically.

Those who are disabled must be euthanized, to create a more perfect man.

Women must be placed in their traditional role as housewives and mothers to the next, greater generation.

These things are in accordance with nature, equality be damned.

Love thy Earth, and her laws.