"WHAT GOOD CAN A HANDGUN DO AGAINST AN ARMY.....?"

[COTW]

You've all heard the anti-gun nuts ask this one haven't you?
"WHAT GOOD CAN A HANDGUN DO AGAINST AN ARMY.....?"
Well, here's a good answer.
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/7006/guns-against-army.html

[Sean Martin]

I really liked the article it is one of the few I actually read every single word. I loved the part about the liberator.

(see the simple design almost anyone could make one of those)
http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20americaine/liberator%20schema%20tech-01.jpg
http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20americaine/liberator%20cal.45.jpg

Click here for a larger more detailed image.
http://www.mek-schuetzen.de/Blueprints/Liberator%20Exploded.jpg

Cheap guns like those and zip guns are for the purpose of getting better guns, no one outfits an army with zip guns.

Even in total gun confiscation the military force has to have weapons.

Have you ever read the works of Kurt Saxon? His theory is that if guns were taken away people would be more dangerous because they would resort to improvised weapons.

Kurt Saxon
“A man with a gun is just a man with a gun, but a man with my knowledge is an army”.

Anyone who has studied the history of Martial arts will know that a great many of Martial Arts weapons are versions of field tools such as flails and machetes. Katas were fighting forms turned into dances to conceal their true meaning.

You can never disarm a people because if you take one weapon they will simply invent another and use it to take your weapons.

[COTW]

I found Kurt Saxon on the web years ago. Love his survivalism ideas.

[Antiochus Epiphanes]

the average White bozo aint gettin off the couch to do jack shit other than get another beer while the football game is on. the average chickenshit lacks the initiative to do the most mundane actions of rebellion so why would he risk his ass for anything?

leave all that NRA horseshit behind, its a waste of breath. guns are great, but whats a thousand, a THOUSAND times more important, are BRAINS AND WILL.

Jews never fired a shot to take over the US. Think about that for a minute. For a day or two, actually. Save your $35 bucks, send it to Linder. NRA is for doofuses. Let the other million doofuses niggle over bayo lugs. We want men with brains and balls, not just bellies.

[Sean Martin]

leave all that NRA horseshit behind, its a waste of breath. guns are great, but whats a thousand, a THOUSAND times more important, are BRAINS AND WILL.
What is this? AE busting up a perfectly good thread? What is next AE88? Then he will have to ban himself. I am getting concerned.


Wait a sec I forgot AE gets wild on gun threads.

Carry on Sir.

[Antiochus Epiphanes]

a gun in the hands of a person unwilling to drop the hammer is no better than a paperweight. a paperweight in the hands of a person determined to kill their enemy is far more effective than a gun in the hands of a person who is afraid to spill blood.

it will never happen like the TD. it will be the death by a thousand cuts, while we are anesthatized by televitz and porn and junk food and the rhtyms of life on the treadmill at work off on a long commute to a sterile judeordained televtiz life at home.

I;m not against the NRA, Im against White men thinking that having guns is enough. Having them is like having a dick. Everybody's got one. But do you know how to fuck, and are you ever going to get laid or just play with it?

LOL I have to turn in, lack of sleep is addling my short supply of wits!

[COTW]

I may be wrong AE but it appears you didn’t read the article. The article does point out that there has to be “a will to use it”. The page answers the following question from a friend of his.



"If/when our Federal Government comes to pilfer, pillage, plunder our property and destroy our lives, what good can a handgun do against an army with advanced weaponry, tanks, missiles, planes, or whatever else they might have at their disposal to achieve their nefarious goals? (I'm not being facetious: I accept the possibility that what happened in Germany, or similar, could happen here; I'm just not sure that the potential good from an armed citizenry in such a situation outweighs the day-to-day problems caused by masses of idiots who own guns.)"

The article makes an analogy of our present situation as he sees it.

Now it is true that our present wolf-like, would-be rulers do not as yet seek to eat that sheep and its peaceable wooly cousins (We, the people). They are, however, most desirous that the sheep be shorn of taxes, and if possible and when necessary, be reminded of their rightful place in society as "good citizen sheep" whose safety from the big bad wolves outside their barn doors is only guaranteed by the omni-presence in the barn of the "good wolves" of the government. Indeed, they do not present themselves as wolves at all, but rather these lupines parade around in sheep's clothing, bleating insistently in falsetto about the welfare of the flock and the necessity to surrender liberty and property "for the children", er, ah, I mean "the lambs." In order to ensure future generations of compliant sheep, they are careful to educate the lambs in the way of "political correctness," tutoring them in the totalitarian faiths that "it takes a barnyard to raise a lamb" and "all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."

Every now and then, some tough old independent-minded ram refuses to be shorn and tries to remind the flock that they once decided affairs themselves according to the rule of law of their ancestors, and without the help of their "betters." When that happens, the fangs become apparent and the conspicuously unwilling are shunned, cowed, driven off or (occasionally) killed. But flashing teeth or not, the majority of the flock has learned over time not to resist the Lupine-Mandarin class which herds it. Their Founders, who were fiercely independent rams, would have long ago chased off such usurpers. Any present members of the flock who think like that are denounced as antediluvian or mentally deranged.

There are some of these dissidents the lupines would like to punish, but they dare not-- for their teeth are every bit as long as their "betters." Indeed, this is the reason the wolves haven't eaten any sheep in generations. To the wolves chagrin, this portion of the flock is armed and they outnumber the wolves by a considerable margin. For now the wolves are content to watch the numbers of these "armed sheep" diminish, as long teeth are no longer fashionable in polite society. (Indeed, they are considered by the literati to be an anachronism best forgotten and such sheep are dismissed by the Mandarins as "Tooth Nuts" or "Right Leg Fanatics".) When the numbers of armed sheep fall below a level that wolves can feel safe to do so, the eating will begin. The wolves are patient, and proceed by infinitesimal degrees like the slowly-boiling frog. It took them generations to lull the sheep into accepting them as rulers instead of elected representatives. If it takes another generation or two of sheep to complete the process, the wolves can wait. This is our "Animal Farm," without apology to George Orwell.





I take this quote somewhat out of context but I like this part.“…if we refuse to be divided from what truly unites us as a people, we cannot be defeated… “

[MOMUS]

Thanks for the revealing insight into one reason why you are such a dolt.

[QUOTE=sean(doc)martin]I really liked the article it is one of the few I actually read every single word. QUOTE]

[Antiochus Epiphanes]

Youre right cracker I just read the first quarter or so. Sometimes I like to shoot my mouth off too eh? I love to poke fun at NRA because I was in it for a long time and my progun activism was in a way, something more socially acceptable than just being flat out proWhite as I am now. So in a way when I make fun of overweight, chickenshit, NRA types, I am the pot calling the kettle black.

But, no longer do I let 2d amendment bullshit serve as a proxy for being ProWhite. And I have been exercising regularly and will soon be up to fighting trim as well. LOL

[Warhammer]

(Doc) Anyone who has studied the history of Martial arts will know that a great many of Martial Arts weapons are versions of field tools such as flails and machetes. Katas were fighting forms turned into dances to conceal their true meaning. (Doc)

Very true, at one time in both Europe and Okinawa, the common boat oar was an exceptional, deadly weapon wielded by not so passive peasant fishermen. Those things weighed 8-14 pounds then. Ouch.

Ever heard of American Kenpo? The late Master Ed. Parker devolved the initial Katas in the 1950’s and it has evolved radically ever since. Unlike (much) older Asian forms that do not reflect actual street combat for the most part, Master Parker created a new system based on basic human body mechanics and reactions. I currently hold a blue belt and have the scars to prove it lol.

Anyway, just something to look into if you are "in the market" for a new challenge

[Warhammer]

Hey! thanks for taking me off moderation. :D

[COTW]

It all depends on what kind of handgun (http://www.abum.com/?show_media=1720) you have.

[Sean Martin]

Ever heard of American Kenpo? The late Master Ed. Parker devolved the initial Katas in the 1950’s and it has evolved radically ever since. Unlike (much) older Asian forms that do not reflect actual street combat for the most part, Master Parker created a new system based on basic human body mechanics and reactions. I currently hold a blue belt and have the scars to prove it lol.

That is what I trained in, and got my first degree black belt and got all the material for my second degree but never did test for it.

My teachers trained in several different arts and added a lot of things to it, and changed the name for financial reasons.

[Warhammer]

That is what I trained in, and got my first degree black belt and got all the material for my second degree but never did test for it.

My teachers trained in several different arts and added a lot of things to it, and changed the name for financial reasons.

Interesting, my Sensei incorporated two other forms as well, namely Tang Soo Do and IFC style ground fighting. Where did you train if you don't mind me asking?

[Augustus Sutter]

That is what I trained in, and got my first degree black belt and got all the material for my second degree but never did test for it.

My teachers trained in several different arts and added a lot of things to it, and changed the name for financial reasons.

Fag Martin's latest wild eyed fish story, now he is a "Karate Man". Hey Fag have you ever noticed no matter how much you brag or embellish everyone still thinks you are full of shit. No you would never notice that no one believes your ludicrous lies. You are just too fucking stupid. Fag hillbilly Martin - an obvious case of alcohol fetal syndrome. That means your moma was boozing it up while you were gestating or should I say incubating. Hey Fag Martin I bet you were circumcised accidentally when your father kicked your sister in the mouth in a jealous rage. Keep up the good work and lay off the pigs and sheep, after all they're God's creatures too and deserve at least not to be molested by you and the rest of your family.

[Steve B]

Fag Martin's latest wild eyed fish story, now he is a "Karate Man". Hey Fag have you ever noticed no matter how much you brag or embellish everyone still thinks you are full of shit. No you would never notice that no one believes your ludicrous lies. You are just too fucking stupid. Fag hillbilly Martin - an obvious case of alcohol fetal syndrome. That means your moma was boozing it up while you were gestating or should I say incubating. Hey Fag Martin I bet you were circumcised accidentally when your father kicked your sister in the mouth in a jealous rage. Keep up the good work and lay off the pigs and sheep, after all they're God's creatures too and deserve at least not to be molested by you and the rest of your family.

Heh, is there anything the ole docster can't do? I'm waiting for the next thread on space flight were doc chimes in that he and Neil Armstrong walked hand in hand on the fricken moon!!!!

[Sean Martin]

Interesting, my Sensei incorporated two other forms as well, namely Tang Soo Do and IFC style ground fighting. Where did you train if you don't mind me asking?
I trained in Kentucky, my teacher was a huge IFC fanatic. He also trained in Judo and Ju-Jitsu. He loved grappling, and that is what he mostly focused on. He was excellent at jump spinning kicks and such, but his theory was it wouldn’t work in the street so he only taught that type of stuff after class.

He has a brown belt in Ta-Quan Do and a second-degree black belt in Shaolin, (I know my spelling is bad but it has been a while). Then he trained under a guy Ed Parker trained and got his fourth degree black belt in Dragon Kenpo (again name change for financial reasons). I saw him a couple weeks ago and he is now going back to the forms. I think he is starting to mellow out a bit. Actually he got a lot of publicity for community work training the youth and keeping the kids off their skateboards and out of the park, so he couldn’t train them like he did us.

I quit training after I went to college and now I can’t find the time (I know four hours a week isn’t much).

[Sean Martin]

Heh, is there anything the ole docster can't do? I'm waiting for the next thread on space flight were doc chimes in that he and Neil Armstrong walked hand in hand on the moon!!!!
This is old news something I posted quite a while back. I know you may have been in a drunken stupor or still to hung over to read but it is old news. Go back to the defense section on VNNF and you will see where I made reference to my martial arts background.

Really Steve you should put the beer down and try it sometime.

Sutter I know you read this a while back, I thought that was why you are so terrified of me. Don’t worry though I don’t really care enough about you to quote your posts anymore so I won’t harm you. You can rest easy now.

[Antiochus Epiphanes]

ta quan do, is that like tae kwon do or did they change the name for financial reasons?

ed parker used to do plenty of travelling seminars so there are tons of people who "trained" with him just like I "trained" with Wally Jay for a day doing small circle jiu jitsu.

say this reminds me of frank dux. anybody heard of this jewish blowhard loser? let's pick on him now.

[Augustus Sutter]

Sutter I know you read this a while back, I thought that was why you are so terrified of me. Don’t worry though I don’t really care enough about you to quote your posts anymore so I won’t harm you. You can rest easy now.

You really are a fag aren't you Martin. You don't care about me anymore! I'm crushed. Then why did you bother to respond this time. You love to make an ass of yourself. Anytime you want to prove your such a badass just pm me.

[Warhammer]

ta quan do, is that like tae kwon do or did they change the name for financial reasons?

ed parker used to do plenty of travelling seminars so there are tons of people who "trained" with him just like I "trained" with Wally Jay for a day doing small circle jiu jitsu.

say this reminds me of frank dux. anybody heard of this jewish blowhard loser? let's pick on him now.


Frank Dux is a jew ??!!!

[Warhammer]

<Doc>I trained in Kentucky, my teacher was a huge IFC fanatic. He also trained in Judo and Ju-Jitsu. He loved grappling, and that is what he mostly focused on. He was excellent at jump spinning kicks and such, but his theory was it wouldn’t work in the street so he only taught that type of stuff after class. <Doc>

Sheesh. It sounds like this guy and my first Sensei, Dave Macomber (non WN as far as I know, unfortunately) were separated at birth lol.

[Sean Martin]

You really are a fag aren't you Martin. I'm crushed.
Nope I am not but I thought you would be crushed. I am sorry but my gate doesn’t swing that way you pervert.

You don't care about me anymore!
Nope.
Then why did you bother to respond this time.
Because I am actually board so I thought I would bring purpose to your otherwise meaningless life.

Anytime you want to prove your such a bad just pm me.
I thought I told you I didn't like you I only PM people I like or respect.

Besides you are a 43-year-old geezer so I would feel bad if I actually met you as I don't harm senior citizens. Hey even if you could beat me up I would just wait ten years then you would be 53 and I would still be in my thirties. You are to old to do any harm to me so I probably wouldn’t even try to fight you (as you desire) I would just stand there are laugh as you wheeze and cough trying to land a punch. I would just do blocks and parry’s perhaps a few sidesteps and you would be to out of wind to do much else, then I would simply walk away.

That is not a threat and I have no desire to harm or threaten you so don't run crying like a jilted teen to the Mods and beg for them to ban me.


BTW there is a banning poll have you voted for me yet?

http://home.no.net/toreport/bilder/vote.jpg
Vote SDM for banning candidate of the year

[Sean Martin]

Sheesh. It sounds like this guy and my first Sensei, Dave Macomber (non WN as far as I know, unfortunately) were separated at birth lol.
Yeah I had a couple of teachers and none of them were WN’s. I did have one that was in to the occult though and he was a top-notch martial artist but I didn’t want to take another five or six years to learn what he had to teach. I was on my way to college and was working about 60 hours a week to save the money to go.













Re: AE

It was changed for financial reasons. Actually this is a message board not the New York Times so I am not concerned with being spelling king or anything like that. It is a message board dude mellow out and switch to decaf. I thought of making several blatant spelling errors just to torment you but I didn’t, how nice of me.

[Augustus Sutter]

Nope I am not but I thought you would be crushed. I am sorry but my gate doesn’t swing that way you pervert.


Nope.

Because I am actually board so I thought I would bring purpose to your otherwise meaningless life.


I thought I told you I didn't like you I only PM people I like or respect.

Besides you are a 43-year-old geezer so I would feel bad if I actually met you as I don't harm senior citizens. Hey even if you could beat me up I would just wait ten years then you would be 53 and I would still be in my thirties. You are to old to do any harm to me so I probably wouldn’t even try to fight you (as you desire) I would just stand there are laugh as you wheeze and cough trying to land a punch. I would just do blocks and parry’s perhaps a few sidesteps and you would be to out of wind to do much else, then I would simply walk away.

That is not a threat and I have no desire to harm or threaten you so don't run crying like a jilted teen to the Mods and beg for them to ban me.


BTW there is a banning poll have you voted for me yet?

http://home.no.net/toreport/bilder/vote.jpg
Vote SDM for banning candidate of the year

I see you still care. I feel bathed in your warm Christian love brother. No I did not vote to ban you, nor would I. You are just too much fun to kick around. No one here takes you seriously, so keep on blathering. You do have lots of stamina for that I'll grant you. By the way let me ask you a question, and I'll set aside all personal rancor. What do you think you have accomplished here? Have you made anyone see things your way? Have you helped one of the awful Pagans see the light? Do you honestly think all your wild boasting is believed? Don't you understand that in doing so you only further decrease your credibility with each new boast, with each new lie? Seriously?

[Starr]

What do you think you have accomplished here? Have you made anyone see things your way?



What kind of question is this? Have you accomplished something here?

[Sean Martin]

Do you honestly think all your wild boasting is believed? Don't you understand that in doing so you only further decrease your credibility with each new boast, with each new lie? Seriously?
Boasting? Spending five years in Karate classes, living at home working for my dad while going to college to get a degree in “theology” is what you consider boasting? Dude I know 15 year old kids that have taken more than five years of Martial Arts.

Dude you must live the most pitiful life on the planet if you think my claims are boasting.

Here is a tip from the D.O.C, get off that welfare put a decent roof over your head and take care of your family like a white man. Anybody that considers my life a boast is pathetic and needs to get a job or a life. If my life is what you consider that outrageous, then you need to turn of VNNF and turn on life. I guess if my life seems that outstanding to some 43 year old geezer I shouldn’t be so hard on your, because you are to pathetic for someone as spectacular as I am.

[Antiochus Epiphanes]

so Sean, did they teach you the dim mak? Teach me! Pretty please! Huh? PLease please!

[Sean Martin]

so Sean, did they teach you the dim mak? Teach me! Pretty please! Huh? PLease please!
I wanted to send you a PM or an E-mail but could not do either.

You ever hear of George Dillman, Rick Moneymaker, and Erle Montigue?

I have the Dillman books (autographed), the Moneymaker charts (not autographed perhaps that is why his name is MONEYMAKER), and the Erle Montigue books and videos. I have corresponded with Montigue and he is amazingly nice, he also said he would train people for $11 a day (the cost of food and such).

There were three teachers in this area that spent a lot of time with Dillman and some time with Moneymaker, I was taught by two of them. I later contacted Montigue who sent me vids and books (comparatively cheap) and said what I was taught was useless and quote “you need to get the good oil from the beginning”.

Dim Mak works well if you learn a couple points and practice them well. Didn’t you say you went to Wally Jay’s workshop? He teaches how to apply them. Learn the broad ones forget about the precision ones and apply them to joint locks and strikes for maximum effectiveness. You really only need to know about 20 and about 4 or 5 combinations for striking.


BTW it was Taji boxing, Kyusho Jistu, and Ryukyu-Kempo that they taught me.

[Steve B]

The Top 13 Signs Doc Joined the Wrong Martial Arts School


13. Your dojo's symbol is a bullseye target.

12. First demonstration consists of falling to the floor, curling into the fetal position, and whimpering pitifully.

11. Frequent pauses while instructor tearfully stops to right his spilled pocket protector.

10. The "gis" are used hospital gowns, and the "throwing stars" are just slices of old cheese.

9. The homework is always just to watch a Jackie Chan movie.

8. The techniques are only effective if your attacker is one of the Three Stooges.

7. Instructor's low fees enhanced by take from one-on-one "pop quizzes" in dark alleys.

6. Benihana has a restraining order against your instructor.

5. Local muggers gather in the parking lot waiting for class to end.

4. Current students bark out on cue the phrase "Insurance does not exist in this dojo!"

3. You take yourself to the mat 4 out of 5 times simply trying to tie your belt on.

2. Sensei's "ancient Chinese secret" required notifying the neighbors when he moved in.

and the Number 1 Sign You've Joined the Wrong Martial Arts School...

1. Did Confucius ever really say he was "going to open up a can of whoop-ass" on someone?

[Warhammer]

The Top 13 Signs Doc Joined the Wrong Martial Arts School


13. Your dojo's symbol is a bullseye target.

12. First demonstration consists of falling to the floor, curling into the fetal position, and whimpering pitifully.

11. Frequent pauses while instructor tearfully stops to right his spilled pocket protector.

10. The "gis" are used hospital gowns, and the "throwing stars" are just slices of old cheese.

9. The homework is always just to watch a Jackie Chan movie.

8. The techniques are only effective if your attacker is one of the Three Stooges.

7. Instructor's low fees enhanced by take from one-on-one "pop quizzes" in dark alleys.

6. Benihana has a restraining order against your instructor.

5. Local muggers gather in the parking lot waiting for class to end.

4. Current students bark out on cue the phrase "Insurance does not exist in this dojo!"

3. You take yourself to the mat 4 out of 5 times simply trying to tie your belt on.

2. Sensei's "ancient Chinese secret" required notifying the neighbors when he moved in.

and the Number 1 Sign You've Joined the Wrong Martial Arts School...

1. Did Confucius ever really say he was "going to open up a can of whoop-ass" on someone?

:D Im going to steal this and make a poster for my workout room with it. ROFL.

[Steve B]

:D Im going to steal this and make a poster for my workout room with it. ROFL.

Heh, I got it from some joke site...thought it was funny too! :D

[Augustus Sutter]

What kind of question is this? Have you accomplished something here?

I don't make any wild claims or boasts. I don't claim to have accomplished anything here - unlike our pimply faced, toothless, degenerate hillbilly. You're just about as bright as the old Doc aren't you.

[Sean Martin]

I don't make any wild claims or boasts. I don't claim to have accomplished anything here
Dear Sir,

Realizing that even my pious lifestyle would be very exciting compared to your middle aged waste of an existence, I now recognize that my ill comments towards you were in haste. I try to be charitable to those less fortunate such as welfare cases and homeless people. Realizing that you are nearly twice my age and yet my life would seem as something you would feel would be something to brag about I understand I shouldn’t pick on you any longer.

I do feel sorry for you that you couldn’t accomplish more in your life than you have, but I hope my condolences towards you and your family will someday find you in a situation that would no longer require you to be such a pitiful character that I seem exciting in comparison. Having lived over four decades without ever accomplishing one thing is truly tragic.

I know of many charitable organizations for people such as your self that are down on your luck, give me your state and I will send you a list of people that you can contact for help. It is no shame that you can not provide a lifestyle that wouldn’t make me seem boastful, so I shall try to do everything I can do to help you. Might I suggest turning off VNNF and seeking more gainful (or simply seeking gainful) employment, and becoming a white man that would make us proud.

Again it is with my sincerest apologies that I was ever anything but civil towards you as I cannot imagine (nor sympathize) the plight of being middle aged and a complete failure. Realizing that I live with my parents while you find that something to boast about, I cannot imagine your situation. Apparently it is worse than mine is and that truly breaks my heart. I never meant to harm your frail ego.

Sincerely yours


Sean Martin

[Augustus Sutter]

I guess if my life seems that outstanding to some 43 year old geezer I shouldn’t be so hard on your, because you are to pathetic for someone as spectacular as I am.

I guess this sentence is another great example of your fine education. Go get your money back.

You also were a professional rassler, or did you forget about that one.

What's up with this high brow edjamacation of yours Doc remember this post:

Originally Posted by Augustus Sutter
Oh just why do you call yourself "Doc"? Do you claim to have a Phd?


Actually I am working on my PHD in theology. As soon as I can afford to go back to college, I hope to get past my masters.

I don’t like to go to college broke so I like to wait until I have saved enough money to pay cash for everything.

Just where did you get this "College degree"? It's illusive, just like your non-existent flock of parishioners.

Just like your seven houses.

Just like your fame as a Nazi preacher in WV.

Just like the family business.

Just like your Rasslin career.

Just like your deadly fighting ability.

Just like your firearms expertise.

etc, etc....

Go ahead keep telling your stories. I've met people like you before. They have to continually make up B.S because they feel that is the only way to get approval or acceptance and no matter how many times they are caught prevaricating they just keep on with the charade. I'm not going to waste my time chastising or criticizing you anymore; you're just too pathetic. Go ahead make up some more bullshit, call me a 43 year old geezer, it's not going to help your image around here. Dude.

[Augustus Sutter]

Dear Sir,

Realizing that even my pious lifestyle would be very exciting compared to your middle aged waste of an existence, I now recognize that my ill comments towards you were in haste. I try to be charitable to those less fortunate such as welfare cases and homeless people. Realizing that you are nearly twice my age and yet my life would seem as something you would feel would be something to brag about I understand I shouldn’t pick on you any longer.

I do feel sorry for you that you couldn’t accomplish more in your life than you have, but I hope my condolences towards you and your family will someday find you in a situation that would no longer require you to be such a pitiful character that I seem exciting in comparison. Having lived over four decades without ever accomplishing one thing is truly tragic.

I know of many charitable organizations for people such as your self that are down on your luck, give me your state and I will send you a list of people that you can contact for help. It is no shame that you can not provide a lifestyle that wouldn’t make me seem boastful, so I shall try to do everything I can do to help you. Might I suggest turning off VNNF and seeking more gainful (or simply seeking gainful) employment, and becoming a white man that would make us proud.

Again it is with my sincerest apologies that I was ever anything but civil towards you as I cannot imagine (nor sympathize) the plight of being middle aged and a complete failure. Realizing that I live with my parents while you find that something to boast about, I cannot imagine your situation. Apparently it is worse than mine is and that truly breaks my heart. I never meant to harm your frail ego.

Sincerely yours


Sean Martin

Well I was going to tell you my mom is dead and then call you a moronic disrespectful Jew.

But I am an Aryan and above that.

Get a good gene line running in your family and then you will know what it is like to think and act white.

I thought you did not care about me anymore? Thanks for being such a good Christian. You live with your Parents? I thought you lived with a parent? You said your mother died in a previous post to Momus?

[Sean Martin]

I thought you did not care about me anymore? Thanks for being such a good Christian. You live with your Parents? I thought you lived with a parent? You said your mother died in a previous post to Momus?
Dear Sir,

Both of my parents are alive and well, thank you for your consideration. I understand that I should be charitable to those that are not up to my station in life. I truly feel sorry for your pathetic situation. Knowing how terrified you are of me I shall refrain from any insults. Hopefully you will soon be able to find gainful employment where you will be able to provide a proper lifestyle for your family.

Here is hoping this post finds you in a better situation than you were yesterday.


Your friend,


Sean Martin

[Augustus Sutter]

Dear Sir,

Both of my parents are alive and well, thank you for your consideration. I understand that I should be charitable to those that are not up to my station in life. I truly feel sorry for your pathetic situation. Knowing how terrified you are of me I shall refrain from any insults. Hopefully you will soon be able to find gainful employment where you will be able to provide a proper lifestyle for your family.

Here is hoping this post finds you in a better situation than you were yesterday.


Your friend,


Sean Martin

I'll take your attempted and ridiculous assignation about my lot in life as another one of your evasions when caught in a lie. Thanks for being yourself; you really make this easy.

Take care Sean

[Sean Martin]

I'll take your attempted and ridiculous assignation about my lot in life as another one of your evasions when caught in a lie. Thanks for being yourself; you really make this easy.

Take care Sean
assignation: word definition
meeting
rendezvous
get-together :confused:

How does that fit in that sentance I don't want to see you ro get together with you, you big ole pervert.

[Augustus Sutter]

assignation: word definition
meeting
rendezvous
get-together :confused:

How does that fit in that sentance I don't want to see you ro get together with you, you big ole pervert.

\As`sig*na"tion\, n. [L. assignatio, fr. assignare: cf. F. assignation.] 1. The act of assigning or allotting; apportionment.

As we all know retard, words have many definitions, yours was the not the most commonly used, you weak minded, sheep fucking, syphillitic, pimply faced hick. Talking about spending too much time on VNN. Your post rate of 17 times per day is ten times mine. Look I know you are desperate. Hell you are so lame you have asked male members of the Forum to fix you up. Maybe if you weren't spending all your time here being a pest your but ugly, fat-assed, no-neck sister might give you some. Come home one day with some cheap beer and a bag of pork-rinds, tell her she is a beauty, and she will be yours. Sean it has to be better than having intercourse with your Pappy's barn-yard animals like you are now. Hell if you marry your sister you could grow up to be just like your Mammy and Pappy whom you admire so much. If you need anymore advice I'm always here.

Take care Sean

P.S
Oh yeah what about your lie to Momus about your Aunt/Mom being dead.

[Sean Martin]

Take care Sean

P.S
Oh yeah what about your lie to Momus about your Aunt/Mom being dead.
Dear Sir,

Upon watching a television program about two years ago about black rage (the need for minorities to lash out because of the feeling of inferiority). I know that is why you hold so much animosity towards me. I can only imagine how pitiful it must be to be middle aged and useless and thus unable to provide a proper living for your family so you tremble in fear that someone may discover your cardboard box number. I know it must pain you so to be at your station in life and know someone as young as me and yet successful.

I feel for you, I truly do and I understand you aggression is an extension of your own useless and probable impotence. I am a tough Aryan so you will not be able in any way to harm me. So it is ok by me that you lash out against me, I am charitable especially towards people that are middle aged and hopeless.

While I may suggest getting your GED, perhaps you should also thinking about going to a trade school as it is to late for college and seek gainful employment so you can better provide for you and yours. I will be lying in my soft feather bed this evening in a warm house, but I will be hoping for you to find a better situation. It pains me so to see Aryans blow any potential they may or may not have once had.

Wishing you the best of luck in your endeavors.

Your friend and hero


Sean Martin

[Antiochus Epiphanes]

I wanted to send you a PM or an E-mail but could not do either.

You ever hear of George Dillman, Rick Moneymaker, and Erle Montigue?

I have the Dillman books (autographed), the Moneymaker charts (not autographed perhaps that is why his name is MONEYMAKER), and the Erle Montigue books and videos. I have corresponded with Montigue and he is amazingly nice, he also said he would train people for $11 a day (the cost of food and such).

There were three teachers in this area that spent a lot of time with Dillman and some time with Moneymaker, I was taught by two of them. I later contacted Montigue who sent me vids and books (comparatively cheap) and said what I was taught was useless and quote “you need to get the good oil from the beginning”.

Dim Mak works well if you learn a couple points and practice them well. Didn’t you say you went to Wally Jay’s workshop? He teaches how to apply them. Learn the broad ones forget about the precision ones and apply them to joint locks and strikes for maximum effectiveness. You really only need to know about 20 and about 4 or 5 combinations for striking.


BTW it was Taji boxing, Kyusho Jistu, and Ryukyu-Kempo that they taught me.

Oh boy. Shoulda known. You do know the dim mak. LOL

I dont know about these other guys, but Dillman is good. But what does it matter? Nobody ever stands still so you can hit them just right, do they?

It was a joke but I guess if you want to talk about it we can.....

[Sean Martin]

Oh boy. Shoulda known. You do know the dim mak. LOL

I dont know about these other guys, but Dillman is good. But what does it matter? Nobody ever stands still so you can hit them just right, do they?

It was a joke but I guess if you want to talk about it we can.....
You are one to talk Mr weekend Martial Arts hero, and shooting club expert.

Dillman is good until you meet Montigue, with the way he teaches Dim Mak they don't have to stand any more still than they would if you were boxing.

[Antiochus Epiphanes]

You are one to talk Mr weekend Martial Arts hero, and shooting club expert.

Dillman is good until you meet Montigue, with the way he teaches Dim Mak they don't have to stand any more still than they would if you were boxing.

Correction: I quit regular martial arts practice a few years back after a serious injury during judo and my relocation took me away from my aikido group. Years before that is when I was joe karate msn, meaning, I got my black belt in TKD after about 6 or 7 years of training including state champ in full contact Olympic style during high school. Yes and then I ran the college karate club where we regularly had between 20 and 200 members. Less during finals. LOL. That was when I started doing the seminar stuff. Then I graduated and started over in a different town, for graduate school, with aikido and judo. Those things are kind of like "rasslin." Then after a few years of that came my injury and then I decided to stick with shooting as my martial sport of choice. So in a way I've started over again and consider myself a beginner at competitive shooting after a mere 3 years or so and surely not an expert like you.

In the circuit of regular shooters out here in flyover, I know 30 guys or so who can outshoot me and have proven it on numerous occasions. I will have to outrank them before anybody rightfully considers me an expert. I will get there sooner or later. So I may be more expert at shooting than you but surely not more so than them.

Or you can start doing competitive shooting out here in the flyover area between Detroit and Chicago and sooner or later you can match up with me personally.

And yes Dr A I meant dim mak as a joke but not surprisingly ole Doc takes it seriously. A cage-- he was in it--

[Sean Martin]

Or you can start doing competitive shooting out here in the flyover area between Detroit and Chicago and sooner or later you can match up with me personally.
Yeah I know a lot of people that played in those tournaments with pads and rules, and then got stomped by some ignorant drunken redneck.

I know a 68-year-old guy that won sever TKD tournaments after a couple of years of play so I am sure you have a point. Try all the jump kicks they teach you or even some of the Judo grappling they teach you in a real fight see how long you last. In grappling you opponent or opponents would simply stomp you to death while you are searching for a wristlock or choke.
And yes Dr A I meant dim mak as a joke but not surprisingly ole Doc takes it seriously.
Of course you did, people that think it is a joke only do so because they are to lazy or to ignorant to learn the precision strikes involved. Dim Mak takes joint locks and strikes to the next level and makes your fighting ten times more lethal, granted it takes years and dedication going beyond taking a class a week and entering in a tournament where the chances of getting hurt are slim to none. (tell us now about those broken noses and hurt backs suffered by these vicious brute beasts)


I hope I never have to tangle with you AE because by the time I would have to put on all the protective gear and get a proper referee and learn the rules, just so I could spare with you, I am sure any aggression I would have had would have been long extinguished. :(

[Antiochus Epiphanes]

Whatever Sean you are the expert not me. A cage, you were in it.

I'm not going to talk about other experiences I may have had but let me just say, I never had a problem getting into fights with rednecks only niggers and other mouthy people who mistook my kindly nature for weakness. Are you the type?

Like I said, you are free to match up with me like any other person in this world. I show up for work the same time pretty much every day and for somebody with the wits to figure out who and where, take your best shot.

[Sean Martin]

Whatever Sean you are the expert not me. A cage, you were in it.
I have been in several different types of cages, so I am sure you have a point.

The thing that I find most pitiful is that someone with your intellect would have to resort to quoting Momus. That is like Hitler quoting a street urchin.
I'm not going to talk about other experiences I may have had but let me just say, I never had a problem getting into fights with rednecks only niggers and other mouthy people who mistook my kindly nature for weakness. Are you the type?

Us rednecks had the good forsight to run all the groids off decades ago so we don't have any to fight. But I am sure that type of mentality is beneath your greatness.

Good day Sir.


Your Friend,


Sean Martin

[Antiochus Epiphanes]

....Us rednecks had the good forsight to run all the groids off decades ago so we don't have any to fight. But I am sure that type of mentality is beneath your greatness.

Good day Sir.

Your Friend,

Sean Martin

question: why do you always put so many damn space in your posts? do you need to take up more of the page than other people for some reason?

[Sean Martin]

question: why do you always put so many damn space in your posts? do you need to take up more of the page than other people for some reason?
Wow is that how you argue in law? Point out something that has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation to evade the subject? I would have expected more from you but I guess there is nothing to expect.

[Antiochus Epiphanes]

you think my reply was irrelevant? I guess that is the pot calling the kettle black. I'll talk about whatever I damn well please "Doc"

[Sean Martin]

you think my reply was irrelevant? I guess that is the pot calling the kettle black. I'll talk about whatever I well please "Doc"
Well since you have become the master of evasion should you be pointing out right about now something I misspelled or how I abbreviate WVA (although I live here and every one that lives here abbreviates it that way), how about how I use a different vernacular than you do. Anything but tackling the subject at hand.

There is no one on VNNF that will stick to the subject with me, they always try to point something out like how I space my lines or paragraph spacing or even (Odin forbid) I should misspell a word or miss a punctuation.

And it is Sean, that is my name.

[Steve B]

Yeah I know a lot of people that played in those tournaments with pads and rules, and then got stomped by some ignorant drunken redneck.

I know a 68-year-old guy that won sever TKD tournaments after a couple of years of play so I am sure you have a point. Try all the jump kicks they teach you or even some of the Judo grappling they teach you in a real fight see how long you last. In grappling you opponent or opponents would simply stomp you to death while you are searching for a wristlock or choke.

Reminds me of a story, Doc. Back in my younger days me and a couple of buddies, after work, used to go to this tittie bar in Norwalk California called The Holiday, to drink a few beers and unwind, as they say. At the time it was sort of a redneck place that featured truckdrivers, construction workers and bikers with the occasional nig nog and mexcrement thrown in. Today, the town is probably full of mexes but thats another story.

One of the bouncers there was a Karate expert. 6th degree black belt in something, I don't remember what exactly, as my interest was not on the bouncers :D I don't recall the guys name either so for the sake of understanding, I'll call him, AE.

AE could handle himself. I had seen him kick out plenty of troublemakers with ease. Of course all the troublemakers were drunk and AE was always sober and usually had 1 or 2 bouncers to back him up so that may have had something to do with it.

One night about 5 of us sashayed into the Holiday, paid our cover charge, showed our ID's, sat down at a table and ordered some refreshments. No sooner had we sat down when AE came to our table. It seems that one of our party had given a fake Id and that was a no no! I don't remember the guys name so I'll just call him Sean. AE politely told Sean that fake Id's are against national tittie bar policy and he would have to leave. Sean replys in a most ill mannered way that basically said, I'M NOT LEAVING!

Now usually AE had 1 or 2 backup bouncers, which is standard operating procedure. The object is to get the bad guy out of the establishment without hurting him too bad so you don't get yourself and the tit business sued. But on this particular nite AE was all alone.

The fight went something like this:

1) AE attempts wrist lock on Sean who has both feet planted.

2) AE trys to secure grip by breaking down Seans balance, it fails and now the fight has turned into a strength on strength wrestling match and Sean powers out of the lock.

3) Sean slams into AE like a defensive end on a rattled quarterback sending AE to the ground. AE has underestimated Seans size, strength, aggression and toughness and is now on his back with Sean on top raining down punches.

4) Cops show up, Sean goes to jail, AE goes to hospital, Steve B marvels at the fact that a 5 buck cover charge and a 5 buck pitcher of beer could bring so much entertainment! :D

[Augustus Sutter]

4) Cops show up, Sean goes to jail, AE goes to hospital, Steve B marvels at the fact that a 5 buck cover charge and a 5 buck pitcher of beer could bring so much entertainment! :D

Well Steve I think you and AE should keep one thing in mind. If you argue with an idiot long enough you'll start to sound like him. Doc definitely is an idiot. Here is a picture of Doc diplaying his great intellectual and athletic prowess.

http://picture.funnyjunk.com/pics/dumbkid.jpg

Well since you have become the master of evasion should you be pointing out right about now something I misspelled or how I abbreviate WVA (although I live here and every one that lives here abbreviates it that way), how about how I use a different vernacular than you do. Anything but tackling the subject at hand.

AE since he is challenging you please tell him what's wrong with this sentence. A college - he was in one.

[MOMUS]

At last, a shred of truth emerges from this creature. I'm certain that sean(prove I lied)martin has been in several cages. This may partly explain his defective character. There was an elderly couple arrested in OK just last year who were raising a child in a rabbit cage in the back yard.
Congratulations on getting out, Doc, or are you still in one now?



I have been in several different types of cages, so I am sure you have a point.

The thing that I find most pitiful is that someone with your intellect would have to resort to quoting Momus. That is like Hitler quoting a street urchin.


Us rednecks had the good forsight to run all the groids off decades ago so we don't have any to fight. But I am sure that type of mentality is beneath your greatness.

Good day Sir.


Your Friend,


Sean Martin

[Sean Martin]

The fight went something like this:

1) AE attempts wrist lock on Sean who has both feet planted.

2) AE trys to secure grip by breaking down Seans balance, it fails and now the fight has turned into a strength on strength wrestling match and Sean powers out of the lock.

3) Sean slams into AE like a defensive end on a rattled quarterback sending AE to the ground. AE has underestimated Seans size, strength, aggression and toughness and is now on his back with Sean on top raining down punches.

4) Cops show up, Sean goes to jail, AE goes to hospital, Steve B marvels at the fact that a 5 buck cover charge and a 5 buck pitcher of beer could bring so much entertainment! :D

This is exactly why I think we should have a post of the year.

Had you brought along a video camera you could have gotten your own web site and charged $19.95 each for the video.

[Steve B]

This is exactly why I think we should have a post of the year.

Had you brought along a video camera you could have gotten your own web site and charged $19.95 each for the video.

It would have been a little difficult to film myself as I was the one fought the bouncer. Truth be told, a night in jail was worth every precious moment!

[Augustus Sutter]

At last, a shred of truth emerges from this creature. I'm certain that sean(prove I lied)martin has been in several cages. This may partly explain his defective character. There was an elderly couple arrested in OK just last year who were raising a child in a rabbit cage in the back yard.
Congratulations on getting out, Doc, or are you still in one now?

You might also note that in this thread the Doc has admitted he lives with his parents - plural. He told you in a previous thread his mammy was dead. Also, he told you HE owned seven houses, three on either side of him and the one across the street. He accomplished this through his hard working assiduous life-style, but now he lives with his parents. Gee I don't know the Doc told me he is fabulous and a tough Aryan; since he is a devout Christian I know he would never lie, and I have no recourse except to believe what he says.