M. Lindstedt responds to Traitor Glenn Miller

[MartinLindstedt]

I would like to make it clear to everyone that anyone who supports Traitor Glenn Miller is either a fool or a regime criminal of some sort or both.

Traitor Glenn Miller had 'admitted' that it accepted $200,000 of Order money and that it later testilied against the Order and Christian Identity Resistance leadership at Ft. Smith and other places, and got a light sentence and was in the Federal Witness Protection plan. On VNN Forum, Traitor Glenn Miller has also admitted to being a physical race-traitor by spawning a misceginated bastard (and only because it was caught.) I have listened with bemusement at all of the weak-minded morons and other Movement feebs condone and 'understand' pore Traitor Glenn Miller.

Which raises the obvious question: Is there ANYTHING too degenerate and too disgusting that when it is done it means that the traitor can never, ever be admitted back within the White Nationalist fold?

Here on VNN Forum, the answer is obviously not. There is no racial or political crime which is evil enough that self-serving solipsistic Movement mattoids aided by agents provacateur won't be quick to forgive, especially if offered enough ZOG-bux. To paraphrase Tom Metzger, it is as if those who would welcome Miller back see no problem with Miller's behavior simply because they wouldn't do any different other than cut a deal with ZOG and rat out their part-time 'brethren.' Miller has asked the question, "What would you do in my shoes back in 1985?" The answer to that, on behalf of 99% of VNNers is silence. That's because they don't want to cast the first stone when they would have betrayed friends and associates and turned them over to ZOG in a heartbeat. Traitor Glenn Miller has obviously reached an audience of his caliber on VNN.

What proof is there, other than fellow ZOG-agents and jewsmedia pressitutes that the Order members were waiting to snitch on Traitor Glenn Miller so he narked them out first? David Lane has 170 years yet to serve. The rest of the Order are still in a ZOG gulag. Traitor Glenn Miller is the only 'survivor' to tell his self-serving song of woe.

Anyone with half a brain understands that 'retired truck drivers' don't have massive ZOG-bux to spend on nutzi litterature. Or that ZOG won't cut the retirement paycheck of any ZOG-merc who displeases them. Traitor Glenn Miller has been on ZOG's payroll since it was a pup. And Traitor Glenn Miller has earned its pay.


I've been in the Movement for a decade now, since the summer/fall of 1994, first with the militias, then as a political figure and back to the fold of Christian Identity. And the figure most likely to be a ZOG agent provacateur was not the figurehead running the militia/common-law kort, but rather the 'liason' or 'intelligence' officer, who handled communications and security between the members of that unit and between units. The rural racist militias run by Christian Identity or Klan are no more -- they faded back into the woodwork on April 21, 1995 or at least by 1997, leaving nothing but the clowns and agents provacateur extant. It was the big city suburban whigger militias which wanted to organize niggers to show that they "weren't racist" which were the ones most likely to turn over to the FBI/ATF lists of those that they had kicked out for 'militancy' in the summer/fall of 1999, usually CI or Klan.

The first duty of any Resistance operation is to simply survive, and that means internal security. Allowing known traitors with plenty of ZOG-bux is not even rudimentary internal security.

"But we are on VNN, and we have anonymous e-mail nicknames and we aren't doing anything illegal!" I can hear it now. What stupid bullshit. ZOG doesn't even need to turn the moderators into moder-traitors when all it needs is to track it down at the ISP. They know who you are. The only necessity for secrecy for the above-ground Movement is for most of the disturbed acne-ridden Movement whiggers is to be safe from each other, threatening to whup ass on each other, like eunuchs armed with wet noodles. Why play that game? Which is why I post using my own name.

The Movement, like the general population, has limited numbers of people able for leadership roles. Only one in twenty amongst the general population has any leadership capability. That's five percent, max. And of them, most prefer their comforts, and use their God-given gifts of their racial heritage on behalf of ZOG. So the number of aboveground Resistance chieftains is limited, and most of us know each other. And we know the content of each other's character. I suspect that within a year after this upcoming [s]election, that the pre-Revolutionary period will be over, and full-scale total racial, religious and class warfare of each against all shall cross the line to where historians shall say, "After the 2004 [s]elections the civil war and collapse began."

So yes, we rate each other. Mini-fuerhers like Mueller are revealed as frauds, and David Duke makes a cumback. Harold Covington creates more enemies trashing out those doing exactly what he would do if he had the power to do so and is further ghettoized with his 666 Net-clones and 6 clowns. Pastor Butler dies and the Aryan Nations forms up into factions, each waiting in steps and bounds to see who shall become the next 'pope.'

My take on VNN? It has come unraveled because of allowing Traitor Glenn Miller to return. What was an unruly, quarrelling bunch of anonymous Net pimply-faced whigger nationalist feebs have jewnited mainly behind allowing Traitor Glenn Miller to return and be recognized as their fuerher. All because he is going to print and mail out some nutzi litterature?

I've printed a paper 'zine, concerning LibberToonitarianism. It cost me around a dollar an issue to produce, print and mail. I had 30 subscribers but it went everywhere. And then the Internet came along, and the 'zine was scrapped because Internet communication and publishing was a thousand times cheaper and a million times more widespread.

The purpose of having a newsletter, if not communication and teaching, is to gain money from dues and subscriptions from a paid membership. That is the Movement business model. To become another National Alliance. This is why VNN is going the way of the NA, Duke's EURO, the Council of Connedservantive Citizens. For money, membership and control for the benefit of Fearless Leader. But, when it comes down to it, whose control? Hmmm?

Allowing Traitor Glenn Miller to have access to the mailing list means no internal security. Why not have Morris Dees have access to the mailing list? I'm sure that Moreass-the-Sleezester would be more than happy to contribute some ZOG-bux to VNN in return for its mailing list. And I'm sure that maybe even not much more than twenty percent of VNNers would have a problem with Moreass now that they've gotten their credulity-orifices stretched from allowing Traitor Glenn Miller back in. Most whores find out that what they're selling probably won't get much more stretched out by the next 20 niggers after taking on the first one anyhow. Selling mailing lists has been Standard Operating Policy for [bowel] Movement paytriots-for-profit since Willis Carto was a pup. And where has that got us? I mean other than the situation we got today, at a much later and more desperate time?

And here's another question or two. If The Order gave Traitor Glenn Miller $200,000 and yet he testilied against them and others for ZOG, then what does VNN expect to get in return for Traitor Glenn Miller giving VNN a thousand ZOG-bux? Granted, what Traitor Glenn Miller is contributing to VNN litterature is greater than the 30 pieces of silver usually paid for such wet work, and, as demonstrated above that there is no amount of treason which won't be forgiven, but isn't this amount of needy, greedy stupidity excessive? Pigs do get fat but fat hogs get slaughtered.

As Dual-Seedline Christian Identity, I've never trusted a-theistic solipsists. If someone claims to be of my racial religion, but is not, our shibboleths detect a rat quick enough, and it is ejected from the fold. I've met Alex Linder, and heard and seen both good and bad about him. But sucking up to Traitor Glenn Miller raises my suspicions that ZOG may have something on him, and thus the allowance of a known ZOG traitor makes me deem him a security risk. Not for someone as I. But for newbies.

Someone said that Alex Linder might be the next Matt Hale or Alex Curtis for trusting someone that he shouldn't. If so, let's hope that Alex Linder won't pull a Traitor Glenn Miller on us, will do his time, and if a deal has to be made, he will go and stay away, unlike Traitor Glenn Miller. But unlike Matt Hale and Alex Curtis, I can't say that Alex Linder will have as much of my sympathies simply because both Matt Hale and Alex Curtis didn't know that their friends were known ZOG rats. Alex Linder has no such excuse in his absolute lack of good sense and discretion on the picking of his associates.

The result is the shrinking away of some of the former Forum membership. They simply see no reason for having anything to do with anyone who tolerates Traitor Glenn Miller. As said before, in the view of the Resistance, anyone who knowingly associates with a caught ZOG informant and race-mixer is either a fool or a regime-criminal or both. Traitor Glenn Miller stands for everything the Resistance is supposed to be against. Anyone on Traitor Glenn Miller's side should be viewed with suspicion and contempt.

I've decided, after long thought, to post onto this VNN Forum my concerns and observations. It has made me uncomfortable to be posting on Alex Linder's forum that I think he has gone way over the line. But I think that this is my racial, religious and Resistance duty to do so, letting the chips fall where they may.

dog blast ZOG,

--Martin Lindstedt
www.martinlindstedt.org

[MartinLindstedt]

I think 'Bob Rudisill' is one of Harold Covington's 666 Net-clones. However, I'm glad that somebody notified Louis Beam about the situation. Louis Beam and Katya Lane and Pastor Butler have never had anything other than contempt for the dirty ZOG rat Traitor Glenn Miller trying to send them to a ZOG prison. Actually, this is fairly restrained from what I've heard concerning Traitor Glenn Miller from Louis Beam.

The Resistance never forgets and almost never forgives.

Anyone caught on Traitor Glenn Miller's side is deemed a fool or a regime criminal or both. Being in the Resistance is like being in the Mafia -- the only way out once you are in is via victory or death fighting to the end.

--Martin Lindstedt
www.martinlindstedt.org

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Bob Rudisill <bobrudisill88@y...> wrote:

Thanks Bob, for your email on Glenn Miller.

You are right about Miller. He stood with the Feds, and against Bob
Miles, Pastor Butler, and myself at Fort Smith. If I had gone to
jail for 20 years upon conviction, it would have been in great part
because of his betrayal of those who thought so well of him at the
time.

He "rolled" for the feds when his own freedom was at stake, and will
do it again under pressure. He can no longer be considered anything
other than a federal informant. I would further point out that had
he not testified for the federals he would still be, at this very
moment, in prison like many of the members of the Order are now. He
is a free "man" because he attempted to put the rest of us in prison
to save himself. That was his deal with the feds. He sat on the
witness stand looking at the floor as he helped the federal case,
unable to look real men in the eye. Why anyone would trust him now is
beyond my ability to understand.

My guess is that they still control him and only use him for gathering names of dissidents and frame jobs.

Regards,
Louis Beam
http://www.louisbeam.com/

[Sean Martin]

What would you have done in my summer 1985 shoes, after a dozen Order members had become government witnesses, and after Lane and Pierce had tried to,

What would you have done in my summer 1985 shoes?
Ok that is it I have finally cracked. I can’t take it anymore.

I have seen this one to many times I must make a thread about this.

[MartinLindstedt]

Hey Mar..tin !! You named this thread "M. Lindstedt responds to Glenn Miller".

So start responding. What would you have done in my summer 1985 shoes, after a dozen Order members had become government witnesses, and after Lane and Pierce had tried to, which guaranteed me life in prison had I not plea bargained, and a plea bargain which has never to this day ever put anyone else behind bars????

The Order members are behind bars, most of them for life. It is only Traitor Glenn Miller and jewspaper clippings claiming that Lane and Pierce 'tried' to turn rat.

In any case, Traitor Glenn Miller probably was a rat even before he played paytriot. Anyone collecting ZOG's nickel is owned by ZOG.

Insofar as what I, or anyone else would have done, first of all it shows that solipsistic mattoids playing at Revolution don't belong in any position of trust. After all, Traitor Glenn Miller has used this question as to 'What would I do in Traitor Glenn Miller's shoes back in 1985?" to great effect. Never asked is why anyone legitimate would get themselves in Traitor Glenn Miller's position in the first place. However, the most damning response has been the silence on the part of Traitor Glenn Miller's VNN Forum supporters, implicitly agreeing that when they get caught, drunk and stupid and cowardly in a compromised position, that they too would "cut a deal" and turn rat.

I've denounced Dan Gayman, as soon as I found out from Katya Lane about his collecting $12,000-$25,000 from The Order and like Traitor Glenn Miller, grovelling at Ft. Smith against Louis Beam and The Order. Gayman was Christian Identity, but his actions showed that he was nothing more than a Dan Gayman worshipper. If Gayman had been a true minister of YHWH, Gayman would have said that YHWH provided the money -- The Order was merely nothing more than YHWH's messengers.

Traitors and agents provacateur are the killers of any Resistance movement. The Iraqis have taken a page from Michael Collins' book and they remorselessly kill any aspiring piglice or traitor supporting the ZOG Occupation whenever they show themselves. The degeneration of ZOGling whiggers is that Traitor Glenn Miller dares to show its ratlike snout on this VNN Forum. It has answered the question: Is there anything so reprehensible that it prevents a degenerate like Traitor Glenn Miller from coming back into the Movement. The answer is "No," and those who support Traitor Glenn Miller should be looked upon as either weak-minded fools or traitors themselves -- or both.

As to what Martin Lindstedt would do upon the hypothetical question of what would I do if I were Traitor Glenn Miller in 1985? The answer is that it is an idiotic question to begin with. I'm not Traitor Glenn Miller. But if I was? . . . .

First of all, the alleged Order money did nothing to benefit the Movement. Traitor Glenn Miller spent most of it on himself and burned the rest building an organization which Miller promptly betrayed. Dan Gayman got a little bit of money, and with those few talents committed an act of betrayal. The only alleged beneficiary of this Order money was Dr. William Pierce, and while he may have used it wisely, the talk was that he had a point of betrayal.

So the alleged Order money was really a curse, when you think about it. All windfall money does is swell the resources available; it does nothing to build a lasting infrastructure or develop character or create community when given to weaklings, fools, degenerates and ZOG collabortraitors.

Like Alex Linder, I probably would not have accepted the money. My political activities have been financed by myself on a $7,000 per year income. Upon the brain-farts of windbags yapping about forming a new political party, I have advocated using what we have and building such a political party from the grass-roots up, county by county. I've seen the Reform Party live, then die, exactly from a cash infusion from Perot, and no political party can be built from scratch with a deluge of fertilizer.

Thus not accepting the money, ZOG would not have any additional hold on myself. Of course, Traitor Glenn Miller already had a hold on itself because he was a lifer in the Army. All they had to do was call it back to active service and then find a way to press charges against it. Miller was a traitor long before getting the Order money.

So, not having any hold over me, the question as to what I would do when the non-existant bill came due is moot. Yet say that I was stupid enough to accept the money. What then?

If Gayman, I'd have said that it was YHWH's money, given for me to spend as I saw fit, regardless of whence the filthy lucre of Satan was derived. If Traitor Glenn Miller, I'd have claimed that I didn't know where it came from -- all I wanted to do was spend it for my Cause and a couple of cases of Jim Beam for life. It was Traitor Glenn Miller who went on a drunken flight with weapons, claimed that he was at war with ZOG, who was hauled out of a trailer house in Ozark Missouri pissing and shaking. And then who then decided to blame it all upon the Order, not himself. That's why anyone should have suspicion as to when exactly Traitor Glenn Miller was a rat. Long before the moment of truth allegedly in 1985.

Then, regardless as to where the money came from, all that could be charged with was 'receiving stolen money.' Not sedition. Not weapons charges. Only receiving stolen money. But Traitor Glenn Miller was more than likely put into place by ZOG to rat out the Order. If Traitor Glenn Miller had merely said the Five Words: "I have nothing to say," then this problem wouldn't have come about. What is the penalty for receiving stolen goods, especially if it cannot be proven that you knew the money was stolen? Five to ten years in a state prison, time out for good behavior?

If I had been Traitor Glenn Miller and it was simply a matter of receiving stolen money from the Order, I'd have simply said that I didn't know or overmuch care where the money came from, right-wing crank or revolutionary cadre, I was going to spend it on polytricks, stong drink, and Samoan nigger whores, just like most kongress-kritters do and Traitor Glenn Miller did.

So then, if it came to that, I wouldn't need to testilie for ZOG. Certainly not at the Ft. Smith Sedition Trial. When shown Louis Beam or Pastor Richard Butler, I could truthfully say, "I've heard of them but they didn't give me any money." If confronted with David Lane at the 'sedition trial' then I could say, "I might have met the guy someplace." If confronted with the question, "Did he give you a bag full of ZOG-bux?" then the answer could have been, "He might of, but I don't know. The guy who gave me a bag full of money was wearing a ski mask, and I was simply glad that I came out ahead on the deal when he cornered me in the dark alley where I went to puke & piss over myself after getting kicked out for drunkeness for the 666th time." Maybe there wouldn't have even been a Ft. Smith Sedition case if I as Traitor Glenn Miller wasn't willing to promise the ZOG prostitutors that I would tell whatever lie was necessary to convict people I had never been associated with and who would normally never associate with a degenerate drunken coward.

But say that I was Traitor Glenn Miller and wanted to justify my wretched existence as a drunken traitor by gloating that my lies were so unbelievable that the Ft. Smith Sedition Trial actually 'helped' the Movement. And now I've only got six years and sucked and been fucked up the ass by only 666 niggers in a ZOG gulag to where that is now my favorite beverage. I suppose that only if I truly was Traitor Glenn Miller would I try to come back into the Movement from which I had exiled myself, not because of a judge or of Moreass-the-Sleezester, and tell witless fools and cretins that it was all because of 'The Order' that I was 'betrayed.' I might, when in the homes or offices of White Men unknown to me be excused for pissing my pants after gasping about how, "I was in the Federal Witness Protection Program, but my testimony never sent anyone to jail" and then running to open air and possible witnesses to protect myself from an assassination attempt, but only if I was truly Traitor Glenn Miller. Normal decent White men would have put a bullet to their heads, or committed suicide-by-piglice after killing some lawyers, judges or jews in a final blaze of glory. But not Traitor Glenn Miller. Traitor Glenn Miller is wanting to 'help' the Movement by getting access to mailing lists and providing money -- from somewhere -- for nutzi litterature.

To sum it up: I wouldn't have accepted the money. If I had accepted the money I'd have taken the penalty of accepting stolen money and done my time and shut up. If I didn't have the balls to simply shut up, I still wouldn't have ratted out my friends. But even if I had ratted out my friends, I wouldn't have ratted out strangers at Ft. Smith. But even if I had ratted out strangers in Ft. Smith and I'd have taken my deal in the Witness Protection Program, then I'd have stayed there and never shown my face or ass again. But even if I had decided to show my face again, I wouldn't try to get back in by telling more lies about how it was all the Order's fault that I was a lying ZOG rat, and not try to infiltraite and destroy the idiots and morons who want to be little wannabe Traitor Glenn Millers on VNN.

But that begs another question: How is it even remotely possible that anything other than a drunken, cowardly, thieving degenerate could/would ever have gotten itself in such a position in the first place?

Traitor Glenn Miller was a tool of ZOG long before the summer of 1985.

I think that answers the question.

Martin Lindstedt
www.martinlindstedt.org

[MartinLindstedt]

Respond Mar..tin, respond like the subject of your thread says. What would you have done in my summer 1985 shoes? Or are you too freakin cowardly to answer that one single question of mine, after you've badmouthed me to high heaven for the past 8 freakin months, you piece of chicken snot, you !!

Daaaaaa.....

I have answered the question. I've never claimed anything not already admitted to by Traitor Glenn Miller.

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Insofar as my grandchildren are concerned. They were removed on the basis of an anonymous hotline call which claimed that I molested two of them. It was taken before a judge, who I've fought for years even before he became a judge. In secret proceedings, the lie about my molesting two of my grandchildren was abandoned by some 'professional Children's Advocate' who gets paid by how many children are stolen claiming that a different grandchild marked on a paper doll with pens provided where "Papa kissed me all over." Now this matter is before the Missouri Court of Appeals -- Southern District, where that corrupt court refuses to make the Newton County Juvenile & Family kort provide the full record on appeal -- or any records for that matter. Yet Roxie, the appellant, is facing dismissal because the Missouri Court of Appeals refuses to make the Newton County court provide the 'confidential' record upon appeal.

I never was charged with anything. Rather, secret proceedings in a secret court are used to simply steal the grandchildren of a political enemy. These tactics are used against hundreds of families in Newton County and thousands across the State of Missery to steal White children and give them to yuppies and perverts. I am merely one of many to whom this tactic has been used. I advocate openly that regime criminals and traitors have their spawn tortured to death and ground up in the DFS -- Dog Food Shredder -- and have no burial except from the gut of a dog or regime criminal. In the case of white slavers, the only change is that they are to be the dogs who eat their children out of a dog food can, before the rest of the sentence is carried out for treason.

c.f. http://www.martinlindstedt.org/naboth21.html

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If this 'Movement' were anything like it was supposed to be, Traitor Glenn Miller would dare never return. However, it is useful to have Traitor Glenn Miller around so as to destroy irrevocably anything it touches, or is allowed to touch. I notice that the enthusiasm for publicly defending Traitor Glenn Miller is missing from this Forum. Well, except for Miller's bitch, Doc Martin.

I've been in this Movement long enough to realize that once someone is known to have committed an act of treason, then they never fly as high again. I seen it in the Militia Movement. I couldn't get anyone to believe that some people weren't working with piglice until one of them admitted finally, that he was working with a known federal informant. Others, that militia Red Mike Vanderkike was working with the feds until he pulled a gun on another FBI informant's [John Parsons] shackup [Pam Beezely] for taking pictures of piglice and pigmobiles at a militia rally. Or Charles McLamb for supporting the Illinois state piglice at Roby Ridge. Or some state senator Charles Duke for supporting the feds at the Freeman standoff.

Alex Linder is going to be branded with Traitor Glenn Miller. The best thing Alex Linder could do is to dump Traitor Glenn Miller and worry about others providing the money for litterature. Traitor Glenn Miller supposedly got $200,000 or $250,000 from the Order. Alex Linder is not going to profit from getting $744 from Traitor Glenn Miller.

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Here's another heads up.

Harold Covington is Bob Rudisel. I don't care if an ISP trace shows that Bob is sending someplace other than Seattle, Covington has enough clowns (Hac hath 666 Net alieasses, called clones and 6 clowns, not Tubby, called clowns) to where he sends his spam to be re-directed to fools. Tubby's prose, oft schidzophrenic, is as obvious as a turd in a punchbowl.

Tubby's 'NotVNN' has me lurking under some aliases, and actually posting as myself. Tubby's latest listserver is 'run' by one of Tubby's clones, Steve Riddle. Sometimes Hac signs himself off as Hac, sometimes as Steve Riddle.

So I posted some material to 'NotVnn' including my screed at the start of this thread, containing some criticism against Tubby. Tubby actually let it stand, as under that incarnation, 'NotVNN' is open and uncensored.

Well, a 'mailbomb' exploded on 'NotVNN' with some typical Tubbyshit being the usual crap posted. After that little listserver 911/OKC, Tubby, er, Riddle then 'moderated' it and took the archives private. I thought that I'd be blamed for that little false-flag operation. Instead you VNNers were blamed for this false-fag operation.

Tubby claims that 'NotVNN' members have been banned. That, insofar as I know is a lie, as I have not been banned from VNN. Tubby's little listserver antics are typical for Tubby. Tubby claims that VNN, like all others leading in the Movement which makes mistakes, are liars and hypocrites when it is Covington who does the exact same thing.

So some of you VNNers might wish to join the NotVNN jewhoogruppen to keep track of Tubby's latest lies.

However: that does not change the fact that VNN will suffer from a lack of credibility as long as it allows itself to be associated with Traitor Glenn Miller. I didn't much care for Norcal1971 myself overmuch when he was here, but I did really respect Dean Roberts for showing hospitality after the Topeka anti-Brown Rally to those who attended and to Pastor Butler. This association of Alex Linder with Traitor Glenn Miller will be a stain which will last for a while. Anything lasting takes a while to build. If VNN wants to abandon what works -- timely VNN Net postings and commentary, along with this VNN Forum rumpus-room -- and set up a place for 'litterature' to be produced for the scarification of ZOGling whiggers, then it should be done without the necessity of bringing upon itself an odious degenerate stench like Traitor Glenn Miller. Stop wallowing around with that dog, that skunk, that pig, or the fleas will not go away, neither will the stink and the mud.

Anyone associating with Traitor Glenn Miller is either a fool or a traitor or both.

Martin Lindstedt

[Antiochus Epiphanes]

I.........
Tubby claims that 'NotVNN' members have been banned. That, insofar as I know is a lie, as I have not been banned from VNN. Tubby's little listserver antics are typical for Tubby. ...............

Anyone associating with Traitor Glenn Miller is either a fool or a traitor or both.

Martin Lindstedt

1. Covington is the only person that gets an unequivocal 100% ban here as far as I know, but if I knew who scotland88 was I'd put him up for it too. Nobody has even suggested the banning of notvnn members. I for one could give a shit.

2. Martin I am neither a fool nor traitor and I have already thanked Miller for getting the project together and so forth. As has Alex. Alex is neither a fool nor a traitor. You dont know me but you have met Alex and you cant seriously believe either allegation. I know you and many other people worship the imprisoned Order members but I would suggest that they are human too and we dont need to run all of our efforts past them as if they were the Board of Directors. I have nothing bad to say about them at this time, but I don not consider them "the boss of me." Simple as that.

3. I thought your comments about "guerilla tactics" in electoral politics were insightful and worthwhile even if nobody seemed to appreciate them or have the inclination to emulate your efforts in that regard. I disagree with you about Miller's involvement in the publishing effort and I think you only shortchange yourself by carrying on about what is already a fait accompli.

But you are free to say whatever you like here within the forum rules, in spite of what Tubbs lies to the contrary.

[Frank Gunn]

That's because they don't want to cast the first stone
I'm throwin it your way, brother.



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I edited your first post, take a look, you are trying WAAAAYYYYYYY too hard. Seems very fishy to me. Your constant attacks on the entire "movement" and your self posturing are reminiscent of another tribe...


The first duty of any Resistance operation is to simply survive, and that means internal security. Allowing known traitors with plenty of ZOG-bux is not even rudimentary internal security.

I suspect that within a year after this upcoming [s]election, that the pre-Revolutionary period will be over, and full-scale total racial, religious and class warfare of each against all shall cross the line to where historians shall say, "After the 2004 [s]elections the civil war and collapse began."

Now this- This is good stuff! I'm on board with you here.

You obviously feel that you have something to say, so just argue your side, just leave out all of the fucking hyperbole.

You seem too smart for this tripe.

[Frank Gunn]

Hey L & S, I noticed you're new here. Linstedt is talking about me. I didn't bother to read his above book-length rantings because he's been ranting "Glenn Miller the Traitor" for the past 8 months on here. But if you interested in gaining insight into that smear artist and paranoid idiot, go check out the thread he started in May or June entitled: "I Am Being Arrested by ZOG" (something like that). Then judge for yourself. Lots of hilarious humor it it, as well. Very entertaining, I guarantee.

Thanks Mr. Miller,

I'll look for the thread. He sure does like the word "ZOG", almost like he is trying too hard to "fit in" or gain support. It's rather transparent in my opinion.

[MartinLindstedt]

1. Covington is the only person that gets an unequivocal 100% ban here as far as I know, but if I knew who scotland88 was I'd put him up for it too. Nobody has even suggested the banning of notvnn members. I for one could give a shit.

Agreed on that. On the jewhoogruppen listservers in which I serve as moderator, I allow Covington to join and post -- but only in his own name of one of his proven Net alieasses, which I call 'clones.' When Tubby posts as one of his 666 clones or any one of his actual followers, i.e. clowns, his jewsusual shit, and it doesn't have Tubby's actual name on it, then Tubby's clone alias is banned. It was rather satisfying banning Tubby's 'mlindste2003@jewhoo.com' alieass.

I'm a Notvnn member. Steve Riddle/Tubby sent out an auto mail-bomb after I posted one of my VNN posts concerning Traitor Glenn Miller, and then said that this was why 'moderation' and taking it off public archives. Today, whenever I post to NotVNN, Riddle/Hac is torn as to whether to allow what I post to be 'moderated' since I deliberately post at least one kick or two for Tubby's fat ass. So far, Tubby has allowed everything to be posted, but the 'moderation' took 6.66 hours before Tubby decided to bite the bullet and keep his lies intact.

So now, like most of Tubby's jewhoogruppen, 90% of the NotVNN membersheep are spies and 8 percent Tubby clones and 1 percent Tubby clowns and one percent tubby as Tubby. After years of playing with the Internet, Tubby has effectively ghettoized hisself. Yes, character matters, and Tubby, for all of his writing brilliance in yapping about how he has character and everyone else does not, is judged by his own behavior.

But that said, VNN Forum has lost some of its best membership simply because some of them, like Dean Roberts, simply cannot stand to deal with bowel Movement dysfunctionals any more. Norcal left VNN, then was himself on NotVNN, and left NotVNN because he didn't fit in. NotVNN is simply Covington as a professional disrupter taking advantage of what are genuine problems with VNN.


2. Martin I am neither a fool nor traitor and I have already thanked Miller for getting the project together and so forth. As has Alex. Alex is neither a fool nor a traitor. You dont know me but you have met Alex and you cant seriously believe either allegation. I know you and many other people worship the imprisoned Order members but I would suggest that they are human too and we dont need to run all of our efforts past them as if they were the Board of Directors. I have nothing bad to say about them at this time, but I don not consider them "the boss of me." Simple as that.

I stand by my characterization that anyone supporting Traitor Glenn Miller is either a fool or a traitor or both. There are some on NotVNN who claim that you are nothing more than an Internet alias of Alex Linder. (Just as all of Tubby's 'clones' are Internet lieasses of Tubby.) I don't think that is true as the writing styles of yourself and Alex Linder are distinct.

Earlier this year I offered Traitor Glenn Miller an open slot to run against Bull$hit Kit Bond as US Senate as I was deliberately gunning for RuntBlunt as Governor. I suspected that Traitor Glenn Miller was still a ZOG plant, with plenty of ZOG-bux, however, Traitor Glenn Miller running as a White Nationalist would still be vulnerable whenever I decided to let the past history come out. Instead, Miller's fed handlers made Traitor Glenn Miller blow both hot and cold, and when Traitor Glenn Miller's handlers said Miller couldn't do anything other than act as an agent provacateur, as opposed to openly rail against niggers and jews as a Republican candidate for US Senate, then Traitor Glenn Miller was more than pleased to 'discover' what I wrote about him on VNN Forum this Feb. and March. I knew that Traitor Glenn Miller was still a snitch and openly held my nose because I understood that for all of Alex Linder's talk, talk, talk that he would never ever run himself, nor get any of his followers to run at all. So when the Traitor Glenn Miller situation blew up, I was more than happy.

In July 2000, after Traitor Glenn Miller gave me a copy of his book at my mom's trailer and ran out like he thought I might kill him, I contacted Louis Beam and Katya Lane and asked if they had heard of Traitor Glenn Miller. They most certainly had. Later in 2001, when Traitor Glenn Miller decided to make a comeback, and a presstitute from the Springfield News-Leader contacted me and asked if I had heard of Traitor Glenn Miller, I said "Yes . . . but." The "but" is because ZOG always promotes as Movement leaders those broken corrupt 'leaders' who proved able to be used. Don Gayman for Christian Identity, supposedly as Eric Rudolf's pastor, Traitor Glenn Miller as a 'White Paytriot.' I pointed out that supporting Traitor Glenn Miller was the 'kiss of death' in the Movement.

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http://www.martinlindstedt.org/copyrite.html

. . . . Now I have discussed Glenn Miller with other White Nationalist
political figures and there is not a chance that Miller will ever be
rehabilitated. So I have no intention of expending political capital
to attempt the impossible. . . . .

. . . . Now Miller has no place in the Resistance other than if he is willing
to place his book on the Internet so that a wider audience can read it,
warts and all, and so that it can be useful as a Resistance work of
propaganda and as a lesson in "what not to do." . . . . .

Now if you do this story, I can suggest that Miller allow me
to post his book onto a WWW page, and that otherwise Miller retains
paper book rights, but that Miller make it in the public domain
insofar as the Internet goes. This way, if Miller is interested in
rehabilitating himself in Resistance eyes, then Miller is going to
have to do the job himself.

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After discussing this with Louis Beam and Katya Lane, Beam agreed with me that I should post Traitor Glenn Miller's book in order to show what ZOG does with weaklings and cowards. Katya Lane never fully agreed with the idea. I did get Traitor Glenn Miller's permission, however. I have faithfully posted nothing that Traitor Glenn Miller didn't write. I have gotten nauseated about Miller's self-serving treason.

Anyone siding with Traitor Glenn Miller will be rightfully deemed either a fool or a traitor or both. That held true after the Ft. Smith Sedition Trial in 1988, it held true in 2000, and it holds true today.

Our Movement needs heros and martyrs. The Order, David Lane, Louis Beam, Pastor Butler, et. al., are our heros and martyrs. Traitor Glenn Miller, conversely, is our traitor, our Benedict Arnold. Anyone saying anything good about Benedict Arnold after he turned traitor would be deemed either a fool or a traitor or both during the American Revolution and afterwards. Anyone saying anything good about Traitor Glenn Miller within our Movement today and forever is deemed either a fool or a traitor or both. There simply is no getting around this reality, no matter what Traitor Glenn Miller or jewbergjewberg or WhiggerSwill says.

Secondly, Alex Linder, with his steady solipsistic screetching against Christianity in general simply confirms in the Resistance that just as Tom Metzger says, that if ZOG came down on Linder then Linder will turn. Yes, Metzger has had his problems, as have all of the Great Men of the Movement, but defiance of ZOG when the nut-cutting time comes down are the dues we all must pay. Billy Roper of White Revolution simply cannot support anyone who has betrayed Pastor Butler or David Lane if he wants to remain relevant. Alex Linder, by his support of Traitor Glenn Miller, has sold his birthright of credibility for a mess of litterature pottage.

The Order, David Lane, Pastor Butler, Gordon Kahl, Louis Beam, and every hero and martyr are on the Resistance Board of Directors, whether you like it or not. You can no more change that reality if you wish to remain within the Movement than the spawn-of-Satan jews can chuck their Talmud and get into pig farming.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say that you are a fool regarding Traitor Glenn Miller. After all, you have no great position of authority in the Movement, and thanks to your support of Traitor Glenn Miller, you probably won't gain any position of trust if you were to reveal your identity. As someone who is known to think only of themselves, have no allegiance to the Law of YHWH but rather a hostility to Christians and Christianity, and a willingness to accomodate and support known traitors and agents provacateur, Alex Linder and Will Williams and other solipsistic idiots will be deemed to be traitors themselves to the Resistance. Since the Resistance is not scared of ZOG, why should we be scared of ZOG's tools and ZOG's unharvested sheep? By the way, this understanding that the line has been crossed is shared in even by those who have their own past shady histories, especially Covington. In fact, it is to be expected that Covington will gloat and wallow in the foolishness and weaknesses of them who have revealed themselves to be a bigger problem than he is. Katya Lane told me about Covington, twice, "Sooner of later you will grow tired of his lies." Louis Beam didn't comment. But both Louis Beam and Katya Lane had nothing good to say about Traitor Glenn Miller -- or those who would support him.

Isn't it really the shits when Harold Covington is rated by the Resistance as more of a paytriot than you or Alex Linder? But what can you expect when you give aid and comfort to the biggest traitor the bowel Movement has ever spawned? There is a line which nobody can cross and ever come back. Traitor Glenn Miller is that line. Mene mene tekel upharsin.

--Martin Lindstedt
www.martinlindstedt.org

[MartinLindstedt]

3. I thought your comments about "guerilla tactics" in electoral politics were insightful and worthwhile even if nobody seemed to appreciate them or have the inclination to emulate your efforts in that regard. I disagree with you about Miller's involvement in the publishing effort and I think you only shortchange yourself by carrying on about what is already a fait accompli.

But you are free to say whatever you like here within the forum rules, in spite of what Tubbs lies to the contrary.

Tubby is a liar. Granted. Everyone knows Hac is a liar. Nobody is much fooled. So not much harm comes through it, other than irritation. Who believes the lies of a liar?

The only guide to what is real and what is not is behavior. I've run for pubic office for the past decade. I've made my points. But when it comes to actually doing anything, this VNN Forum is full of nothing but whigger jack-offs showing what conduct they regard as acceptable by embracing Traitor Glenn Miller and its behavior. As a result, the average VNNer obviously thinks that betraying anyone stupid enough to believe it and indulging in race-mixing is all right, and that there is no need to worry about being caught, since there are always some other more anonymous cowardly degenerate whigger idiots to forgive and forget this typical behavior of theirs.

The Stormfront/Willis Carto effort has been tried and failed by the Movement. Publishing 'litterature' which is disdained by whiggers hasn't worked. Publishing 'nutzi porno' for whigger supremacists beating off in their closets hasn't worked either. What was a model which worked was in using the Internet to build a following, a network of independent nodes run by a local or regional Resistance chieftain, each node known of by the entire Movement, if not agreed to. Today, both Stormfront and VNN have ossified their idiotology by association with Movement dregs, internut whiggers, and open traitors. Spermfront has censorship. VNN Forums wants to publish 'litterature,' abandon what worked -- fresh cutting jibes every day against ZOG on the Internet -- and prostitute itself for 666 pieces of silver from Traitor Glenn Miller.

Nobody but Alex Linder is bringing VNN down. Not Traitor Glenn Miller. Not Harold Covington. Not myself. Alex Linder.

Likewise, nobody is making you look bad, AE. You are, insofar as you are anonymous. There simply is no compromise with someone who betrayed comrades to save his own skin or race-mixed for pleasure.

Traitor Glenn Miller actually does the Movement a favor by removing from the Movement the weak, the stupid, the degenerate elements so stupid as to want anything to do with a known traitor and race mixer. It was those who were stupid enough to have anything to do with Traitor Glenn Miller who went to prison based upon Traitor Glenn Miller's lies. I've asked, and have not been answered, "Is there ANYTHING which can be done by Traitor Glenn Miller that you VNN idiots won't accept."

Scratch that. My question HAS been answered by the only answer which cannot be faked -- by VNNer behavior. Treason and race-mixing are perfectly acceptable to VNNers, its just that most of them haven't been caught yet.

As J.R. Ewing on the talmudvision show 'Dallas' once said, "Once you give up integrity, the rest is a piece of cake."

That's where VNN stands right now insofar as I am concerned.

I'll try to keep my irritation concerning Traitor Glenn Miller within this subforum. Nor do I advocate censoring Traitor Glenn Miller. After all, I have published some of his works in order to show how easy ZOG uses its natural-born vermin to destroy other vermin. Hopefully, you will retain enough pride in yourself to where I am not censored.


--Martin Lindstedt
www.martinlindstedt.org

[MartinLindstedt]

Thanks Mr. Miller,

I'll look for the thread. He sure does like the word "ZOG", almost like he is trying too hard to "fit in" or gain support. It's rather transparent in my opinion.

Let me see.

A 25-post anonymous whigger jackoff can wash away the sins of Traitor Glenn Miller. Maybe itz the spawn of Traitor Glenn Miller, be it nigger or whigger. Traitor Glenn Miller is a known race-mixer.

No shortage of such critters on VNN. No name, no face, no forwarding address. VNN has now become lower than Usenet.

It is to be hoped that Traitor Glenn Miller sends this one off to the jewlag quick enough.

--Martin Lindstedt
www.martinlindstedt.org

[Sean Martin]

But that said, VNN Forum has lost some of its best membership simply because some of them, like Dean Roberts, simply cannot stand to deal with bowel Movement dysfunctional any more. Norcal left VNN, then was himself on NotVNN, and left NotVNN because he didn't fit in. NotVNN is simply Covington as a professional disrupter taking advantage of what are genuine problems with VNN.
Roberts had mental problems that transferred to a fixation with Vonbluvens, while Norcal would like nothing better than to see all the CI's in the middle of a nuclear explosion. Both are mental defectives banned from a "net forum" because of such and not people you would want to align yourself with if you want any kind of positive attention.

In July 2000, after Traitor Glenn Miller gave me a copy of his book at my mom's trailer
Word of advice that sentence gives the flamers fuel to burn about the stereotype of ignorant southern rednecks. Don't use terms like Mom's trailer.

Our Movement needs heros and martyrs. The Order, David Lane, Louis Beam, Pastor Butler, et. al., are our heros and martyrs.
The Order and David Lane were not heroes nor were they martyrs and more and more WN's are seeing the results of thier actions. They gave the Jews ammunition to prove that White Nationalists are incompetent degenerate misfits that have no place in society. With the long list of mistakes, blunders and blatant foul ups the Order made they tarnished the image of White Nationalism for decades to come. Basically they destroyed everything they touched, and Miller would have been better for never having known them. He dodged every bullet that came his way except for the one called Lane that no racist could dodge.



I am not saying these things to flame you or anything else (if you notice in the other thread I said I would vote for you for sheriff when everyone else flamed you) but I am offering constructive criticism and useful advice. I am one of the few people on this board that doesn’t call for the destruction of all CI’s. I hope it is received with the proper attitude.

[Antiochus Epiphanes]

.........
The Stormfront/Willis Carto effort has been tried and failed by the Movement. Publishing 'litterature' which is disdained by whiggers hasn't worked. Publishing 'nutzi porno' for whigger supremacists beating off in their closets hasn't worked either. What was a model which worked was in using the Internet to build a following, a network of independent nodes run by a local or regional Resistance chieftain, each node known of by the entire Movement, if not agreed to. Today, both Stormfront and VNN have ossified their idiotology by association with Movement dregs, internut whiggers, and open traitors. Spermfront has censorship. VNN Forums wants to publish 'litterature,' abandon what worked -- fresh cutting jibes every day against ZOG on the Internet -- and prostitute itself for 666 pieces of silver from Traitor Glenn Miller.

Nobody but Alex Linder is bringing VNN down. Not Traitor Glenn Miller. Not Harold Covington. Not myself. Alex Linder.

Likewise, nobody is making you look bad, AE. You are, insofar as you are anonymous. There simply is no compromise with someone who betrayed comrades to save his own skin or race-mixed for pleasure.

......... Hopefully, you will retain enough pride in yourself to where I am not censored.

--Martin Lindstedt
www.martinlindstedt.org

LOL I'm not going to censor you, I havent censored anybody, one of the handful of mod actions I have ever taken was to move the tabloid thread to civil forum and whiner Norcal couldnt abide by the rules so he was booted. Now he and Tubbs have formed this other yahoo circle jerk that says I am Linder. Well, Alex is a friend and a good writer so that doesnt bother me, and if they dont know who I am in life so much the better.

Somebody rightly said, not too long ago, cant recall where, many people on the internet in WN circles use fake names to protect themselves, not from the Jews, but from the pathological freakshow that that goes along with WN as a fringe phenomenon. To some extent this is true. If you think it makes me look bad, sorry to disappoint you, but I know who I am and I'm not about to spill the beans to suit you. Too many irons in the fire that dont need to get ruined out of vainglory.

You make the same mistake that many stormfronters and fade has made of late. There is no ONE magic bullet. There is no ONE approach. The BEST approach, is ITSELF a combination of approaches. THAT is the genius of Beam's concept of "leaderless resistance," applied not in a yunnel vision way to "guerilla warfare" but to the wider idea of social and cultural conflict. From Jared to Stromfront to VNN to Fade to Lindstedt's guerilla politics, each has its place and function in resistance.

There is also a place for Rounder. You dont like it, tough. Carry on. And preferably about another topic.

[AJ Balfour]

Somebody rightly said, not too long ago, cant recall where, many people on the internet in WN circles use fake names to protect themselves, not from the Jews, but from the pathological freakshow that that goes along with WN as a fringe phenomenon.In other words, we have to worry about our allies, or people who are supposed to be our allies. Oh, how true! :mad:

"I have no trouble with my enemies. I can take care of my enemies all right. But my damn friends. They're the ones that keep me walking the floor nights!" - Warren G. Harding

[Frank Gunn]

Let me see.

A 25-post anonymous whigger jackoff can wash away the sins of Traitor Glenn Miller. Maybe itz the spawn of Traitor Glenn Miller, be it nigger or whigger. Traitor Glenn Miller is a known race-mixer.

No shortage of such critters on VNN. No name, no face, no forwarding address. VNN has now become lower than Usenet.

It is to be hoped that Traitor Glenn Miller sends this one off to the jewlag quick enough.
And I am to suppose that you are somehow credible because your "real name" and fat face are plastered all over your very own website?

Is there just one White Nationalist that you might think highly of (other than yourself)?

Do you have anything constructive to add here, or shall you just keep flapping your lips, bemoaning everything and everyone in the "movement"?

Look it fatso, just because I've thrown a few rocks your way (they appear to have hit the target), does not mean that Glenn Miller is off the hook. I don't really know the full situation. BUT, I do have enough info to be cautious of both of you.

I'm not so much sticking up for Glenn Miller, but rather pointing out your kiken-like drivel. Your incessant whining highlights your effeminate character. You are highly annoying, and far too superficial to be taken seriously. Get over yourself.

[armadillo]

If that paranoid idiot stated anything he hasn't stated in at least 200 of his previous posts during the past 8 months, somebody let me know, and I'll respond to it. I ain't about to waste my time reading his long, boring, repeats.

And if the facts show that you're not a fucking traitor, please let us know, and show us the error of our ways. You are preying upon a generation of well-meaning younger people who have little to base their decisions upon other than your misdirection, and the misdirection of some of your affiliates around here. You're a piece of shit.

Armadillo

[MartinLindstedt]

And I am to suppose that you are somehow credible because your "real name" and fat face are plastered all over your very own website?

Is there just one White Nationalist that you might think highly of (other than yourself)?

Do you have anything constructive to add here, or shall you just keep flapping your lips, bemoaning everything and everyone in the "movement"?

Look it fatso, just because I've thrown a few rocks your way (they appear to have hit the target), does not mean that Glenn Miller is off the hook. I don't really know the full situation. BUT, I do have enough info to be cautious of both of you.

I'm not so much sticking up for Glenn Miller, but rather pointing out your kiken-like drivel. Your incessant whining highlights your effeminate character. You are highly annoying, and far too superficial to be taken seriously. Get over yourself.

First of all, posting in your real name with a real address means that you mean what you say because it is done in the open. In real life I am 6'2" and weigh 245-255 lbs, most of it muscle. As for jewrself, you are probably a tubercular kike with GAIDS on a liquid cum diet gotten from sucking the dicks of niggers with GAIDS, insofar as anything is known about jewrself.

I think highly of the Christian Identity portion of the Resistance. They think highly of me. The rest of you supposed White Nationalists who are keybored kommandos are usually pimply-faced whigger shitheads who take great care to not reveal who you are and where you live for fear of getting the shit kicked out of jewrself.

Insofar as you are concerned, the thread title is "M. Lindstedt responds to Traitor Glenn Miller." I didn't ask for any input from some anonymous little whigger pussy with a big on-line persona. The gravimen of this thread is that anyone ASSociating with Traitor Glenn Miller is an idiot or a traitor or both. Nobody asked some anonymous whigger shithead to prove to my satisfaction that they are probably the former but want to graduate to becoming the latter as soon as possible.

Look shithead, I could care less whether Traitor Glenn Miller sucks down all of you whigger keybored kommandos on VNN. As admitted by jewrself, you don't know what you are talking about. However, perhaps if I insult an ignorant shithead like jewrself you will get some VNN litterature from Traitor Glenn Miller and then he will know what closet you are jacking jewrself off inside.

I am always annoying to shitheads. The only good thing about Traitor Glenn Miller is like Louis Beam said, is that ZOG agents provacateur thin out ranks of the weak, stupid, idiotic self-serving shitheads like jewrself. I shouldn't have to point out that a self-admitted snitch with a lot of ZOG-bux to get back into the [bowel] Movement via VNN isn't someone to play around with. If it satisfies your little ego-organ and you want to become an imprisoned whigger jackoff, then by all means, keep away from me and give your true name and address to Traitor Glenn Miller of the ample P.O. Box number.

--Martin Lindstedt
www.martinlindstedt.org

[MartinLindstedt]

LOL I'm not going to censor you, I havent censored anybody, one of the handful of mod actions I have ever taken was to move the tabloid thread to civil forum and whiner Norcal couldnt abide by the rules so he was booted. Now he and Tubbs have formed this other yahoo circle jerk that says I am Linder. Well, Alex is a friend and a good writer so that doesnt bother me, and if they dont know who I am in life so much the better.

It is to the credit of VNN that they haven't censored -- yet. And I agree that Norcal was yet another one of the idiot jewveniles which make any forum into bedlam. I'm a critic of Tubby and it is typical of Tubby's clones/clowns to claim that you are a Linder-clone. But the subject is Traitor Glenn Miller, not Hac. I think that Traitor Glenn Miller, like the coward it is, hides itself from criticism by skulking under the 'civil forum' protection foolishly allowed it by VNN. This is why I am posting under this thread, so that those who want to hear it can. Those who don't can largely escape being hectored by myself saying over and over and over again -- Stay away from Traitor Glenn Miller or be judged as a fit companion of Traitor Glenn Miller's.


Somebody rightly said, not too long ago, cant recall where, many people on the internet in WN circles use fake names to protect themselves, not from the Jews, but from the pathological freakshow that that goes along with WN as a fringe phenomenon. To some extent this is true. If you think it makes me look bad, sorry to disappoint you, but I know who I am and I'm not about to spill the beans to suit you. Too many irons in the fire that dont need to get ruined out of vainglory.

I can understand that. The Movement outside Christian Identity is to me largely nothing more than a pack of self-serving shitheads. You should understand though, that hiding one's true name in an age when ZOG knows instantly who you are and where you live means that you tend to get lumped in with idiotic cowards and the keybored kommando shitheads which infest these forums, listservers and boards. Your best defense, if you are not going to use your own name is to post with some measure of intelligence and clarity. I think that is what you do.

But. . . . . there is a but . . . . the legacy of Traitor Glenn Miller is such that anyone choosing to associate with that traitor vermin is automatically judged to be either a fool, or a traitor, or both. Even when 'anonymous,' you are judged by the company you keep. Traitor Glenn Miller has not changed one bit, but is even worse given new fools to prey upon. You take on Traitor Glenn Miller's sins, then you are apt to be crucified. And for what? A race-mixer, a rat, a traitor? Hence becoming deemed a fool or a traitor or both yourself.

Is it worth it?


You make the same mistake that many stormfronters and fade has made of late. There is no ONE magic bullet. There is no ONE approach. The BEST approach, is ITSELF a combination of approaches. THAT is the genius of Beam's concept of "leaderless resistance," applied not in a yunnel vision way to "guerilla warfare" but to the wider idea of social and cultural conflict. From Jared to Stromfront to VNN to Fade to Lindstedt's guerilla politics, each has its place and function in resistance.

There is no such thing as 'leaderless resistance' given that there is always a need for leadership. And if you think Louis Beam is a genius -- I think so too -- then how can you ignore what Louis Beam has to say about Traitor Glenn Miller? I sure can not. Not when Brother Louis and Katya Lane gave me such an earful to me and everyone else when I asked about Traitor Glenn Miller. I prefer to associate with the Old Resistance and I can't do any such thing if I ever had anything other than open contempt for Traitor Glenn Miller. You are not only cutting yourself away from the Resistance when you associate yourself with Traitor Glenn Miller, you are saying that it is OK to rat out your friends and comrades, and then you cut yourself off from any association with anyone in the Movement. This Revolution is not going to be won by tap, tap, tapping, yap, yap, yapping on some WN forum along with the rest of the whigger shitheads, but rather bringing about the political, moral and military changes which make for a successful Revolution. How is printing up litterature with Traitor Glenn Miller going to accomplish that? I can see what Traitor Glenn Miller gets out of the deal -- names of new whigger shithead meat to turn over to ZOG and being worshipped as a source of ZOG-bux by the credulous. But other than new names on a mailing list, screetching about what the jews and niggers are doing to pore whiggers, and bringing out of 'retirement' a ZOG snitch, what do you get out of it? Other than being suspected of being a fool or a traitor or both?

How can there be 'leaderless resistance' in above-ground politics? There can't be. The aboveground politicals have their jobs to do, and the underground Army of the Resistance has their job to do. This is why I am trying to get the Aryan Nation factions to keep the two and three-family congregations underground, but to ordain and establish new pastors and chapters at the same time. Spermfront and 'Phoolishness' actually are nothing more than Usenet or jewhoogruppen for whigger nutionalists.


There is also a place for Rounder. You dont like it, tough. Carry on. And preferably about another topic.

Yeah, yeah, I'm sure that there is a place at the head of the table for Traitor Glenn Miller on VNN. I'm viewing it with disgust akin to watching shitheaded whiggers set up a place for worse than jews, niggers and greasers and not inviting the poor White second and third cousins because we thump our Bibles. I see it happening all the time across the ZOGland. Itz not anythang new at all, but it sure strikes a note of cognitive dissonance that Traitor Glenn Miller is such an 'honored guest.' All I can say is that VNN has gone to the fools or traitors or both on this thread at a table far, far to the back.

And say it I will. If you don't like it, tough. You want to throw me off then you will have to live with the political and moral and racial consequences. Piss on you if you do.

Want all you want. The topic remains: Anyone associating with Traitor Glenn Miller is a fool or traitor or both.

--Martin Lindstedt
www.martinlindstedt.org

[MartinLindstedt]

Roberts had mental problems that transferred to a fixation with Vonbluvens, while Norcal would like nothing better than to see all the CI's in the middle of a nuclear explosion. Both are mental defectives banned from a "net forum" because of such and not people you would want to align yourself with if you want any kind of positive attention.

Roberts was kind enough to host a back-yard barbeque after the anti-Brown Rally in Topeka Kansas. Mr. Roper and Mr. Linder enjoyed his hospitality, as did I. Neither of them had any complaints as to the quality of Mr. Robert's hospitality at the time. Neither did I.

Perhaps it is yourself with the 'mental problems.' I'd say that you definitely have a moral problem in that you would probably defame a man after enjoying his hospitality. I'd say of the two of you, Mr. Roberts is both your infinite mental and moral superior.

I didn't much care for Norcal, with his Adolf Hitler avatar and his self-serving bullshit. He lied when he claimed to have been censored. Insofar as what the infantile self-serving solipsistic whigger shitheads like to yap about Christian Identity, who cares? Neither jews nor pimply-faced anonymous whigger shitheads overmuch like Christian Identity. In return, Christian Identity doesn't overmuch like jews or pimply-faced anonymous whigger shitheads.

By the way, Dean Roberts was highly amusing and apt about 'doc' Martin and Traitor Glenn Miller.


Word of advice that sentence gives the flamers fuel to burn about the stereotype of ignorant southern rednecks. Don't use terms like Mom's trailer.

Who cares? Anonymous whigger shitheads should be raised in a barrel. Then, if they still turn out to be whigger shitheads, bung the barrel and send it over Niagara Falls.


The Order and David Lane were not heroes nor were they martyrs and more and more WN's are seeing the results of thier actions. They gave the Jews ammunition to prove that White Nationalists are incompetent degenerate misfits that have no place in society. With the long list of mistakes, blunders and blatant foul ups the Order made they tarnished the image of White Nationalism for decades to come. Basically they destroyed everything they touched, and Miller would have been better for never having known them. He dodged every bullet that came his way except for the one called Lane that no racist could dodge.

What have you anonymous whigger shitheads ever done other than defame White Heroes who did 'something?' I mean, other than suck-off Traitor Glenn Miller on VNN Forum?

These White Men fought, and died, and did something. While it is not wrong to privately admit that they might have made mistakes, it was in doing something that 99.9999999% of you anonymous whigger shitheads wouldn't even have it in you to even remotely dare think of doing.

All Traitor Glenn Miller ever did was to take money and betray those stupid enough to trust it. Now that everyone knows what Traitor Glenn Miller did, anyone associating with this vermin is a fool or a traitor or both. In the case of 'Doc' Martin, I'd say all three.


I am not saying these things to flame you or anything else (if you notice in the other thread I said I would vote for you for sheriff when everyone else flamed you) but I am offering constructive criticism and useful advice. I am one of the few people on this board that doesn’t call for the destruction of all CI’s. I hope it is received with the proper attitude.

That's all very nice. I don't care what anonymous whigger shitheads on VNN Forum say or do. Who would you vote for for Governor this August, if not the only openly White Nationalist candidate running? Who would you vote for for sheriff other than the only Revolutionary Resistance candidate running? And what jew-Age whigger ass-clowns with nothing better to do than to make up some avatar to worship as theysselfs want to yap about Christian Identity means nothing to me. I do know that the five bodyguards around Pastor Butler to protect him from indignities from the jews, niggers, whiggers of the ARA at Topeka could have wiped the bus floor with the 18 or so who were not CI. If Traitor Glenn Miller would have shown up, well, there might have been the temptation to bring up old times, like the Ft. Smith Sedition Trial. That matter has never been forgiven or forgotten and it never will be settled until Traitor Glenn Miller gets itz.

You have absolutely no claim to any liking nor respect from myself as long as you side with Traitor Glenn Miller against the White Men of the Order or Christian Identity. In fact, I have a duty to hate and despise you for doing so. Anyone siding with Traitor Glenn Miller is either a fool or a traitor or both in the eyes of the Resistance. You let Traitor Glenn Miller back into your midst, why not just have done with it and let the jews and niggers and greasers and race traitors back in too? Traitor Glenn Miller snitched for ZOG and is a race-mixer. Anyone who will forgive or forget that is no White man.

Since some of you idiots on VNN don't get the message, then this message will be repeated to all idiots on this thread.

--Martin Lindstedt
www.martinlindstedt.org

[Sean Martin]

RE: Lindstedt

At first I thought you were sincere but now I understand that you are sick and delusional. This is why you didn’t have a 5,000-member organization like Miller. You are to paranoid to understand when someone is trying to be at least half way civil to you. In a group of people that hate and despise you one person steps forward and tries to treat you like a white man instead of a drunken trailer trash vagrant and this is how you react.

So what you are saying about the sick being called Roberts is that just because some twisted pervert buys you a hot dog you are his friend for life. I understand the plight of being a poor trailer trash insect but come on surely your price would be more than a hot dog. You whine about Miller selling out but at least I am sure he got more than a hot dog, if you would sell your soul for a hot dog imagine what you would do to good racist people if the government offered you a steak. I shudder to think.

I don’t mind you being on this board spouting your repetitious nonsense but at least don’t claim to be a Christian while doing it. We are hated bad enough around here without someone like you making us totally despised. Let us real Christians do the Christian talk.

Claim to be of Odin or something.




Disclaimer:

M Lindstedt is not a Christian, he is a Odinist plant claiming to be a Christian to make the rest of us look bad.

[Frank Gunn]

M Lindstedt is not a Christian, he is a Odinist plant claiming to be a Christian to make the rest of us look bad.

Don't throw your christer friends into the Odinist boat just because your ship is sinking.

Martin Lipstick is your degenerate, not mine.

[Vikinkur]

Traitor?

That's awful.

He must be killed for it.


/Karl

P.S

What I would have done? I would have shut up, and If I didn't? I should be hanged. I guess this is the part you airheads don't understand, it's really not about who is evil, but about laws, that will make us survive, and brakers of those must be dealt with sufficiently to uphold them. This is really not a moral problem, but an ethical one, you people don't really understand, of course, Miller still hanging in there as a patriot makes my heart faint, but you knew, it does not matter, it can't matter and it must not matter.

-Leave him.

Rounders place is as a lone wolf that one day will be killed and then given a patriots funeral.

[MartinLindstedt]

RE: Lindstedt

At first I thought you were sincere but now I understand that you are sick and delusional. This is why you didn’t have a 5,000-member organization like Miller. You are to paranoid to understand when someone is trying to be at least half way civil to you. In a group of people that hate and despise you one person steps forward and tries to treat you like a white man instead of a drunken trailer trash vagrant and this is how you react.

On the other hand, suck(dork)fartin, I was always sure that you were a typical solipsistic whigger mattoid pounding your keybored when you weren't pounding your wee pud. Traitor Glenn Miller never had a 5,000 mamzer organization but maybe a quarter of that even if one counts those who got Miller's litterature. The real workers were promptly betrayed by Traitor Glenn Miller. The ones who weren't betrayed by Miller have no right to 'forgive' Traitor Glenn Miller since they suffered no hurt. Same goes for you whigger shitheads on VNN. Obviously you don't view race-mixing and snitching as any big deal because most of you would do the same when caught. That's why you are viewed as one of Traitor Glenn Miller's bunghole buddies. Nobody of any intellect wishes to be known as a fool or traitor or both, which is how your kind are legitimately viewed.

Insofar as being 'nice' to me in a place full of whigger shitheads so lacking in character that they hate those who will never accept a traitor and race-mixer into the fold and want to suck-off Traitor Glenn Miller, well, you need not have bothered. Stick with the whigger shithead herd on Vagrant Nutzi Nutwork. Insofar as 'drunken vagrant trailer trash' is concerned, do you have any idea of how notorious Sgt. Snitch is in that regard?

Get over yourself. Tens of hundreds of net masturbations here on Lindermiller's forum wanting desperately to becum the next Spermfront isn't going to make you a Resistance chieftain. Suffice it to say that it is enough to simply do whatever needs to be done without having to cater to every little anonymous whigger ass-clown wanting his ego-organ stroked.


So what you are saying about the sick being called Roberts is that just because some twisted pervert buys you a hot dog you are his friend for life. I understand the plight of being a poor trailer trash insect but come on surely your price would be more than a hot dog. You whine about Miller selling out but at least I am sure he got more than a hot dog, if you would sell your soul for a hot dog imagine what you would do to good racist people if the government offered you a steak. I shudder to think.

Roberts has a family and offered hospitality to Lindermiller, Roper, Pastor Butler and myself. Count on some suck-dork like jewrself to value a hotdog. Perhaps you can beg Traitor Glenn Miller for something to lick direct from a congoid poop-chute in a ZOG gulag?

It is your kind which tolerate Traitor Glenn Miller for snitchery and race-mixing simply because your kind would do no different who are a menace to our People. After all, none but a fool or traitor or both would be seen publicly supporting Traitor Glenn Miller.

By the way, Dean Roberts said that sean(doc)martin was the degenerate inbred who was Traitor Glenn Miller's biggest suck-up. Dean Roberts should have called you Traitor Glenn Miller's biggest suck-off. I've met Dean Roberts. I've heard your bitching. You are not even worth as much as a pimple on the ass of Dean Roberts.


I don’t mind you being on this board spouting your repetitious nonsense but at least don’t claim to be a Christian while doing it. We are hated bad enough around here without someone like you making us totally despised. Let us real Christians do the Christian talk.

Suck(dork)Fartin is one of them jew-day-o 'Christians.' Why don't you just crawl back to where your kind can be 'looooovvvvvved' with the faggot 'Christians', and the nigger & greaser lovers as well as the 'Christian' Zionists? Why don't you go whine to Moreass-the-Sleezester about us hateful Identity Christians? Since you are already sucking off Traitor Glenn Miller, it shouldn't be too hard to go back to the baal-priest whorehouses that jew crawled out of, now should it?

VNN is full of masturbatory whigger shitheads whining about how they loathe Christianity and love theysselfs. Fine by me. Us Dual-Seedliners don't cast Christian pearls before whigger swine nor our Identity bread to whigger dogs. Some jew-day-o Xian baal-priest should be held in contempt even by the usual masturbatory anonymous whigger swine on VNN. Piss on jew and piss on your jew-day-o baal-priest churchianity.


Claim to be of Odin or something.

The only Odinist worth more than a jug of stale piss I've ever met was David Lane, the Odinist Order members and Eric Thompson. Anonymous whigger ass-clowns playing Net Nutzi are not real Odinists.


Disclaimer:

M Lindstedt is not a Christian, he is a Odinist plant claiming to be a Christian to make the rest of us look bad.

Disclaimer:
Suck(Dork)Martin is not a Christian. It is a jew-day-o baal-priest anonymous whigger ass-clown on Lindermiller's VNN calling itself a 'Christian' with a roto-rooter tongue daily reaming out Traitor Glenn Miller's drunken syphilitic asshole -- a playstation for swarms of bi-sexual black bucks with GAIDS while serving out its prison sentence in the Witness Protection Program -- hoping to become someday as big of a snitch and race-mixer as its bunghole buddy, Traitor Glenn Miller.

Approach it with all the disdain due a typical VNNer supporting Traitor Glenn Miller.

--Martin Lindstedt
www.martinlindstedt.org