''Holocaust'' studies fail to have desired effect

[Ossian]

Generations of horror fans have thrilled to tales about how the Germans, both during the reign of the evil Kaiser Bill and in their nastier Nazi incarnation, made soap from the corpses of POWs and overweight Jews. Reports about such “Cadaver Factories” were widely circulated-- and believed --during WWI.
Organized Jewry began to revive this charge as early as 1942. More than a few “Holocaust survivors” have testified that members of their family were reduced to the Teutonic version of Ivory Soap. Playing a version of “Show & Tell,” they have asserted that gray little lumps bearing the initials R.J.F., supposedly standing for Pure (Reines) Jewish (Jüdische) Fat (Fett), are all that remain of thousands of unfortunate Chosenites.
Alas, this staple of anti-German propaganda has been dealt a fatal blow by the head of the Hebrew University’s Holocaust History Department, Yehuda Bauer, who, rather late in the game, felt compelled to point out that the technical possibilities for making soap from human fat were not known during the first half of this century. (Propagandists would have been better advised to have accused the Germans with turning their prisoners into candles.) Said the learned professor, "We do not have to go on believing untrue stories." {Read: "We'd better jettison the most obviously untrue fixtures off of our foundering Holocaust Ship, and save what we can."}

Bauer’s historical revisionism bodes ill for those who insist on including expanded Holocaust studies in U.S. schools. Suzy Lainpert, editor of The Jewish Outlook, revealed that after students at the University of Texas were exposed to the full menu of Nazi atrocities in the “Literature of the Holocaust” course, the typical student response was (to her great chagrin and consternation):

"If the Pagans hated the Jews, the Muslims hated the Jews, and the Christians hated the Jews, the Greeks hated the Jews, the Romans hated the Jews, the English hated the Jews, the Spanish hated the Jews, the French hated the Jews, the Italians hated the Jews, the Russians hated the Jews, and the Nazis hated the Jews ... don’t you think maybe there's something wrong with the Jews?"

[Patriot]

I understand holocaust fetish porn is quite popular in Israel. Sadomasochism is an outstanding genetic trait of jews and they seem historically eager to bring destruction on themselves and others to satisfy this desire.

Then it would seem that the sooner the world is cleaned of the bastards, the better off the rest of us will be. It seems that every perverted act is presented by Jews as "desirable".....homosexuality, whites girls screwing blacks, white male degregation......they sit back and laugh at the sick, perverted things they get us "goys" to do.

[Gott]

A few dealers have told me you can't get near any genuine NSDAP memorabilia anymore unless you are really rich, as the jews buy it all no matter what the price. This stuff is so hot with the kikes that there is a really thriving market in bogus artifacts - you have to be very careful about buying this stuff now as whole factores are busy manufacturing it. One dealer told me that SS Uniforms are particularly popular with the juden.

[Ossian]

According to Amazon.com, Mein Kampf is a perennial best seller... in Israel.

[Screwface]

According to Amazon.com, Mein Kampf is a perennial best seller... in Israel.

good for it.

[Ossian]

Over the years, numerous supposedly reputable historians have promoted the durable soap story. Journalist-historian William L. Shirer, for example, repeated it in his best-selling work, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.
Leading Soviet war propagandist Ilya Ehrenburg wrote in his postwar memoir: "I have held in my hand a cake of soap stamped with the legend 'pure Jewish soap', prepared from the corpses of people who had been destroyed. But there is no need to speak of these things: thousands of books have been written about them."
A standard history studies textbook used in Canadian secondary schools, Canada: The Twentieth Century, told students that the Germans "boiled" the corpses of their Jewish victims "to make soap." The Anatomy of Nazism, a booklet published and distributed by the Zionist "Anti-Defamation League" of B'nai B'rith, stated: "The process of brutalization did not end with the mass murders themselves. Large quantities of soap were manufactured from the corpses of those murdered."
A detailed 1981 work, Hitler's Death Camps, repeated the soap story in lurid detail. While noting that "some historians claim that the Nazi manufacture of soap from human fat is just a grim rumor," author Konnilyn Feig nevertheless accepted the story because "most East European camp scholars ... validate the soap stories, and other kinds of bars made from humans are displayed in Eastern Europe -- I have seen many over the years."
New York Rabbi Arthur Schneier repeated the tale at the opening ceremony of the largest Holocaust meeting in history. In his invocation to the "American Gathering of Jewish Holocaust Survivors," held in Washington in April 1983, the Rabbi solemnly declared: "We remember the bars of soap with the initials RJF -- Rein jdisches Fett, Pure Jewish Fat -- made from the bodies of our loved ones."
In spite of all the apparently impressive evidence, the charge that the Germans manufactured soap from human beings is a falsehood, as Holocaust historians are now belatedly acknowledging. The "RIF" soap bar initials that supposedly stood for "Pure Jewish Fat" actually indicated nothing more sinister than "Reich Center for Industrial Fat Provisioning" ("Reichsstelle fr Industrielle Fettversorgung"), a German agency responsible for wartime production and distribution of soap and washing products. RIF soap was a poor quality substitute that contained no fat at all, human or otherwise.
Shortly after the war the public prosecutor's office of Flensburg, Germany, began legal proceedings against Dr. Rudolf Spanner for his alleged role in producing human soap at the Danzig Institute. But after an investigation the charge was quietly dropped. In a January 1968 letter, the office stated that its inquiry had determined that no soap from human corpses was made at the Danzig Institute during the war.
More recently, Jewish historian Walter Laqueur "denied established history" by acknowledging in his 1980 book, The Terrible Secret, that the human soap story has no basis in reality. Gitta Sereny, another Jewish historian, noted in her book Into That Darkness: "The universally accepted story that the corpses were used to make soap and fertilizer is finally refuted by the generally very reliable Ludwigsburg Central Authority for Investigation into Nazi Crimes."
Deborah Lipstadt, a professor of modern Jewish history, similarly "rewrote history" when she confirmed in 1981: "The fact is that the Nazis never used the bodies of Jews, or for that matter anyone else, for the production of soap."
In April 1990, professor Yehuda Bauer of Israel's Hebrew University, regarded as a leading Holocaust historian, as well as Shmuel Krakowski, archives director of Israel's Yad Vashem Holocaust center, confirmed that the human soap story is not true. Camp inmates "were prepared to believe any horror stories about their persecutors," Bauer said. At the same time, though, he had the chutzpah to blame the legend on "the Nazis."
In fact, blame for the soap story lies rather with individuals such as Simon Wiesenthal and Stephen Wise, organizations like the World Jewish Congress, and the victorious Allied powers, none of whom has ever apologized for promoting this vile falsehood.
Why did Bauer and Krakowski decide that this was the appropriate time to officially abandon the soap story? Krakowski himself hints that a large part of the motivation for this "tactical retreat" has been to save what's left of the sinking Holocaust ship by throwing overboard the most obvious falsehoods. In the face of the growing Revisionist challenge, easily demonstrable falsehoods like the soap story have become dangerous embarrassments because they raise doubts about the entire Holocaust legend. As Krakowski put it: "Historians have concluded that soap was not made from human fat. When so many people deny the Holocaust ever happened, why give them something to use against the truth?"
The bad faith of those making this calculated and belated concession to truth is shown by their failure to note that the soap myth was authoritatively "confirmed" at Nuremberg, and by their unwillingness to deal with the implications of that confirmation for the credibility of the Tribunal and other supposedly trustworthy authorities in establishing other, more fundamental aspects of the Holocaust story.
The striking contrast between the prompt postwar disavowal by the British government of the infamous "human soap" lie of the First World War, and the way in which a similarly baseless propaganda story from the Second World War was officially endorsed by the victorious Allied powers and then authoritatively maintained for so many years not only points up the dispiriting lack of integrity on the part of so many Western historians, but underscores the general decline in Western ethical standards during this century.
The "human soap" story demonstrates anew the tremendous impact that a wartime rumor, no matter how fantastic, can have once it has taken hold, particularly when it is disseminated as a propaganda lie by influential individuals and powerful organizations. That so many intelligent and otherwise thoughtful people could ever have seriously believed that the Germans distributed bars of soap brazenly labeled with letters indicating that they were manufactured from Jewish corpses shows how readily even the most absurd Holocaust fables can be -- and are -- accepted as fact.
http://ihr.org/jhr/v11/v11p217_Weber.html

[Spandau]

Over the years, numerous supposedly reputable historians have promoted the durable soap story. Journalist-historian William L. Shirer, for example, repeated it in his best-selling work, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.
Leading Soviet war propagandist Ilya Ehrenburg wrote in his postwar memoir: "I have held in my hand a cake of soap stamped with the legend 'pure Jewish soap', prepared from the corpses of people who had been destroyed. But there is no need to speak of these things: thousands of books have been written about them."
A standard history studies textbook used in Canadian secondary schools, Canada: The Twentieth Century, told students that the Germans "boiled" the corpses of their Jewish victims "to make soap." The Anatomy of Nazism, a booklet published and distributed by the Zionist "Anti-Defamation League" of B'nai B'rith, stated: "The process of brutalization did not end with the mass murders themselves. Large quantities of soap were manufactured from the corpses of those murdered."
A detailed 1981 work, Hitler's Death Camps, repeated the soap story in lurid detail. While noting that "some historians claim that the Nazi manufacture of soap from human fat is just a grim rumor," author Konnilyn Feig nevertheless accepted the story because "most East European camp scholars ... validate the soap stories, and other kinds of bars made from humans are displayed in Eastern Europe -- I have seen many over the years."
New York Rabbi Arthur Schneier repeated the tale at the opening ceremony of the largest Holocaust meeting in history. In his invocation to the "American Gathering of Jewish Holocaust Survivors," held in Washington in April 1983, the Rabbi solemnly declared: "We remember the bars of soap with the initials RJF -- Rein jdisches Fett, Pure Jewish Fat -- made from the bodies of our loved ones."
In spite of all the apparently impressive evidence, the charge that the Germans manufactured soap from human beings is a falsehood, as Holocaust historians are now belatedly acknowledging. The "RIF" soap bar initials that supposedly stood for "Pure Jewish Fat" actually indicated nothing more sinister than "Reich Center for Industrial Fat Provisioning" ("Reichsstelle fr Industrielle Fettversorgung"), a German agency responsible for wartime production and distribution of soap and washing products. RIF soap was a poor quality substitute that contained no fat at all, human or otherwise.
Shortly after the war the public prosecutor's office of Flensburg, Germany, began legal proceedings against Dr. Rudolf Spanner for his alleged role in producing human soap at the Danzig Institute. But after an investigation the charge was quietly dropped. In a January 1968 letter, the office stated that its inquiry had determined that no soap from human corpses was made at the Danzig Institute during the war.
More recently, Jewish historian Walter Laqueur "denied established history" by acknowledging in his 1980 book, The Terrible Secret, that the human soap story has no basis in reality. Gitta Sereny, another Jewish historian, noted in her book Into That Darkness: "The universally accepted story that the corpses were used to make soap and fertilizer is finally refuted by the generally very reliable Ludwigsburg Central Authority for Investigation into Nazi Crimes."
Deborah Lipstadt, a professor of modern Jewish history, similarly "rewrote history" when she confirmed in 1981: "The fact is that the Nazis never used the bodies of Jews, or for that matter anyone else, for the production of soap."
In April 1990, professor Yehuda Bauer of Israel's Hebrew University, regarded as a leading Holocaust historian, as well as Shmuel Krakowski, archives director of Israel's Yad Vashem Holocaust center, confirmed that the human soap story is not true. Camp inmates "were prepared to believe any horror stories about their persecutors," Bauer said. At the same time, though, he had the chutzpah to blame the legend on "the Nazis."
In fact, blame for the soap story lies rather with individuals such as Simon Wiesenthal and Stephen Wise, organizations like the World Jewish Congress, and the victorious Allied powers, none of whom has ever apologized for promoting this vile falsehood.
Why did Bauer and Krakowski decide that this was the appropriate time to officially abandon the soap story? Krakowski himself hints that a large part of the motivation for this "tactical retreat" has been to save what's left of the sinking Holocaust ship by throwing overboard the most obvious falsehoods. In the face of the growing Revisionist challenge, easily demonstrable falsehoods like the soap story have become dangerous embarrassments because they raise doubts about the entire Holocaust legend. As Krakowski put it: "Historians have concluded that soap was not made from human fat. When so many people deny the Holocaust ever happened, why give them something to use against the truth?"
The bad faith of those making this calculated and belated concession to truth is shown by their failure to note that the soap myth was authoritatively "confirmed" at Nuremberg, and by their unwillingness to deal with the implications of that confirmation for the credibility of the Tribunal and other supposedly trustworthy authorities in establishing other, more fundamental aspects of the Holocaust story.
The striking contrast between the prompt postwar disavowal by the British government of the infamous "human soap" lie of the First World War, and the way in which a similarly baseless propaganda story from the Second World War was officially endorsed by the victorious Allied powers and then authoritatively maintained for so many years not only points up the dispiriting lack of integrity on the part of so many Western historians, but underscores the general decline in Western ethical standards during this century.
The "human soap" story demonstrates anew the tremendous impact that a wartime rumor, no matter how fantastic, can have once it has taken hold, particularly when it is disseminated as a propaganda lie by influential individuals and powerful organizations. That so many intelligent and otherwise thoughtful people could ever have seriously believed that the Germans distributed bars of soap brazenly labeled with letters indicating that they were manufactured from Jewish corpses shows how readily even the most absurd Holocaust fables can be -- and are -- accepted as fact.
http://ihr.org/jhr/v11/v11p217_Weber.html

Excellent Post. Also, why would the Nazi's want to cleanse themselves with the fat of their unclean "Untermench" enemy? What Nazi would want Jew all over him? A serious question.

[Hadding]

Bauer’s historical revisionism bodes ill for those who insist on including expanded Holocaust studies in U.S. schools.
Actually Yehuda Bauer is a defender of the Holohoax trying to save the lie by orchestrating tactical retreats from various untenable positions, such as the high death-toll claims in various places that used to add up to much more than six-million Jews.

The conclusion that persecution of Jews, occurrign in so many different times and places, must have been provoked, is an obvious conclusion that any thoughtful person should reach if the mind is not clouded by notions like "Chosen People" and "Satan" that make miracles and miraculous coincidences possible.

[Ossian]

Of course, Hadding, you are absolutely right. To call Bauer a "revisionist" one's tongue must be thrust firmly in one's cheek, since the word makes us think of vastly more honest people. It's the same way when referring to the revision of the numbers on The Plaque at Aushcwitz, or of the writings of 'kosher revisionists' Finklestein or Novak or Sack (although these three have incomparably more integrity than someone like Bauer, imo.) Since the jews and others who hate the truth try their best to slander the very word, I personally like to use the word 'revision' just about any time I can use it to indicate that a person (or government, or other entity) has gone from presenting a lie, to presenting a true(r) statement in its stead--even if they (as they so often are) were forced to, against their wishes.

[Aryan Goddess]

I've made a whole lot of soap in my lifetime and was goofing on Nolte about the Nazi soap in my thread about soap making.

"Human fat, except when it gets around internal organs like suet, is composed of these yellow-orangy round sticky balls like roe. It would be rendered into an oil and too soft for soap making." It would have made a very poor soap and required a lot of additions making it too expensive for the Nazis to have even considered it really.

That is from my answer on that thread.

Thanks for posting the link to your soap post Ossian.

[Ossian]

You're quite welcome Goddess, and thank You. Your posts in that subforum remind me of the Foxfire book series.

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It is worth emphasizing here that the "evidence" presented at the Nuremberg
Tribunal for the bogus soap story was no less substantial than the "evidence"
presented for the claims of mass extermination in "gas chambers." At least in
the former case, an actual sample of soap supposedly made from corpses was
submitted in evidence.
After the war, supposed Holocaust victims were solemnly buried, in the form of
soap bars, in Jewish cemeteries. In 1948, for example, four such bars
wrapped in a funeral shroud were ceremoniously buried according to Jewish religious
ritual at the Haifa cemetery in Israel. Other bars of "Jewish soap" have been
displayed as grim Holocaust relics at the Jewish Historical Institute in
Warsaw, the Stutthof Museum near Gdansk (Danzig), the Yivo Institute in New York,
the Holocaust Museum in Philadelphia, the Jewish Holocaust Centre in Melbourne
(Australia), and at various locations in Israel.

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