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Antiochus Epiphanes
January 6th, 2004, 02:46 PM
I have entitled this thread "the golden mean of political action: participation yes, voting no." I suggest that for the WN, this is the best way to maximize his individual impact on the racial struggle.

Participating as either an openly pro White candidate is good for three basic reasons. The first is that it efficiently uses resources to spread the WN message to a wide audience, and a different audience than typically is exposed to it via the Internet, because of election coverage in radio print and tv media, which is so expensive the Jews have WN effectively locked out. In other words, it allows for penetration of a different market segment. Secondly, it allows for personal recruitment in a socially accepted manner, at a time when many average folks are interested in politics. Thirdly, it helps WNs develop leadership, communication, and teamwork skills, which will all be essential if we ever have the opportunity to take the reins. A subsidiary of this last item, is that it keeps people involved by giving them something concrete and attainable to work for.

Because running involves so much technical information, electioneering skills are becoming more complex. Accordingly, people with interest may legitimately volunteer in "straight" campains, if you dont mind the term, covertly hiding their WN agenda so that information may be gleaned about people and processes. Later that information may be put to very constructive use as an openly pro-White candidate or otherwise.

So there you have the utility of political participation. I would note for the purpose of this forum, that nobody needs to "wait" for a "White party" to run. Jim Giles and Martin Lindstedt have proven this and their example should be imitated. A final observation about this, is that the sort of participation I am advocating brings us benefits without regard to winning any particular election. IN short, it doesnt matter, because we do not really hope to be elected into power, but rather to increase our profile and credibitility with the masses of asses for whom "politics" is solely limited to who runs in the elections.

But voting presents an entirely different issue. Simply put, voting in the system-rigged elections lends credibility to a system we would prefer to overturn. For every White that votes, black votes are legitimated. But if Whites made an exodus from the system as a whole-- systemic illegitimacy would be definitively proven thus helping pave the way for a new order, established by whatever means necessary.

It's instructive that authoritarian regimes and one party systems and occupation regimes always stage "votes" even if there are only one candidate offered. The vote has the effect of both legitimating the regime to outsiders and insiders, and of "coopting" participants. "Buy-in" is the idiotic term they use in business school for this sort of phenomenon.

The US system offers party A or B, which either choice is essentially the same. But the slight of hand of offering two choices befuddles practically everyone, other than the elites who are in control and the hardcore revolutionaries of every stripe who desire it. The only way to vote NO in such a regime, whether it is a fake one party election or a US style A or B election, is NOT TO VOTE. Parenthetically I would point out that this effect is most clearly defined if the non-voter is in fact registered as a voter upon the roles. OTherwise, there is a possibility your absence will not be missed.

The only time I suggest WN should vote is if there is an openly pro WHite candidate running. Right now such events are rare indeed.

A reasonable debate might be had about the utility of voting for a fringe party candidate. Votes in our system for third parties are indeed taken as evidence of discontent, regardless if it's Greens or the quasi-racist Consitutionalist party or the liberterians. However, the value seems negligible.

I would like to credit Tom Metzger and his sidekick of old Alex Curtis for introducing me to the contours of this issue via their conversation on the topic on their respective internet web pages.

I invite debate on this topic.

MartinLindstedt
January 7th, 2004, 12:09 AM
[said, in part in the previous thread] I have entitled this thread "the golden mean of political action: participation yes, voting no." I suggest that for the WN, this is the best way to maximize his individual impact on the racial struggle.

Participating as either an openly pro White candidate is good for three basic reasons. The first is that it efficiently uses resources to spread the WN message to a wide audience, and a different audience than typically is exposed to it via the Internet, because of election coverage in radio print and tv media, which is so expensive the Jews have WN effectively locked out. In other words, it allows for penetration of a different market segment. Secondly, it allows for personal recruitment in a socially accepted manner, at a time when many average folks are interested in politics. Thirdly, it helps WNs develop leadership, communication, and teamwork skills, which will all be essential if we ever have the opportunity to take the reins. A subsidiary of this last item, is that it keeps people involved by giving them something concrete and attainable to work for.

So there you have the utility of political participation. I would note for the purpose of this forum, that nobody needs to "wait" for a "White party" to run. Jim Giles and Martin Lindstedt have proven this and their example should be imitated. A final observation about this, is that the sort of participation I am advocating brings us benefits without regard to winning any particular election. IN short, it doesnt matter, because we do not really hope to be elected into power, but rather to increase our profile and credibitility with the masses of asses for whom "politics" is solely limited to who runs in the elections.

But voting presents an entirely different issue. Simply put, voting in the system-rigged elections lends credibility to a system we would prefer to overturn. For every White that votes, black votes are legitimated. But if Whites made an exodus from the system as a whole-- systemic illegitimacy would be definitively proven thus helping pave the way for a new order, established by whatever means necessary. . . .

[The way to guard against that is to openly denounce the appearance of legitimacy for the system. More below . . . . ML]


It's instructive that authoritarian regimes and one party systems and occupation regimes always stage "votes" even if there are only one candidate offered. The vote has the effect of both legitimating the regime to outsiders and insiders, and of "coopting" participants. "Buy-in" is the idiotic term they use in business school for this sort of phenomenon.

A reasonable debate might be had about the utility of voting for a fringe party candidate. Votes in our system for third parties are indeed taken as evidence of discontent, regardless if it's Greens or the quasi-racist Consitutionalist party or the liberterians. However, the value seems negligible.

I would like to credit Tom Metzger and his sidekick of old Alex Curtis for introducing me to the contours of this issue via their conversation on the topic on their respective internet web pages.

I invite debate on this topic.


No debate, but a few observations, mostly concerning necessary flexibility.

A 'White Nationalist' political party is possible -- at the county level. However, this means that those locals who even ask for a Party primary ballot will be found, then labeled as 'haters' by the local ZOGling jewsmedia and [s]election authorities. This means that activists are located by means of political activity which for all effect shall be moot in that [s]elections are worthless given that there are 95 whiggers, niggers, latrino mud and jew crud to less than 3-5 % of an aware White elite. I would say that a Resistance activist, particularly of the underground variety, is worth far more than being wasted by detection in a [s]election which shall be lost in any event. Secondly, the political 'legal' aboveground activists are in such short supply that they should run for high-profile offices in which they get our message out, and that means running mainly as a state-wide Republikudikhan, making fun of the Repubs. This means also that the underground Resistance military arm need not be detected in the primary election process. The primary election process, in which say, 5,000+ votes, 1% of the vote in my case in my race for U.S. Seante, instead allows the leaderless disgruntled of the masses to have their say of discontent. Perhaps some of the natural leaders shall grow to the Movement in general, and then on to the Resistance in particular. These natural 'free radicals' are OUR free radicals. They are formed, like diamonds, from the normal political conditions not able to be replicated cheaply. A dying culture generates, at the last instance, its White-blood cells, to take out the invaders. The host ZOG-body dies, then so does the parasites, but those White-blood cells need not die, but prosper.

The working political activist has the option of forming a local political party in his county, or simply running a political machine in his county under the banner of the masturbatory feeb third parties, like the Green, LibberToon, or [Lyshenkoist Social] Democrats which shall allow him ballot access. Using a weak third pretend party with ballot access, the local 'Platform' is pretty much what you say it is.

And yes, I've played the 'voter boycott' card of asking those who were not going to vote for me to boycott the phony ZOG [s]election as well. The way to avoid charges of hypocrisy is in making it clear that you are not running to bring peace -- but a sword. I ALWAYS thank effusively anyone who is White and poor, young, cynical for being honorable in not voting corruption, slavery, parasitism and degeneracy upon others. Tell them that they are special because they are a moral elite -- those who live on their own, not parasiting on ZOG's thieving murderous help. ALWAYS run to the nationalist right, and you will never be out-niggered in any regard.

Remember, a Resistance political activist isn't ever out to 'win' [s]election and co-option into the local ZOGocracy, but rather out to criticise, belittle, ridicule, harass, mock, defame, label and DESTROY ZOG and ZOG-hogs -- the whiggers and jews. On occassion, side with the niggers and beaners to destroy ZOG -- and make no pretence concerning your motivation. Once ZOG is dead, we can mop up all the starving jew, nigger and beaner parasites we want, which is all of them. Happiness is seeing the last starving nigger eating the testicles of the last jewdized whigger -- and hearing the whigger apologise for being 'racist' for screaming. Let Nature run its course since Nature is a Nazi. Since war is the continuation of polytricks by other means (Clausewitz) then waging effective civil warfare means engaging incessantly in polytricks. ZOG lives off of its productive Whites. Your job as a Resistance politician is to make ZOG ungovernable by creating so much hatred and resistance that ZOG cannot live without cannibalizing itself and turning on its constituentcy. That's why it pays to put the niggers and beaners at each others' throats as to who gets to live off of whitey-whigger.

Thus the Resistance needs every one of its gifted aboveground politicals to engage in intensive, destructive total political warfare, not build structures on the sand. We are not to build, but destroy what is going to be destroyed under the mud mass anyway. Concentrate not on building a political party, but rather build a lean mean remorseless political machine meant to destroy civil politics amongst the ZOGlings.

We must not build for non-Whites to consume, but rather must destroy what Whites built that now non-whites consume. We will win not because of what we built, but because we calculatingly destroyed what was needed for our racial enemies and traitors to survive. Time enough to build once all of them are dead.


--Martin 'Mad Dog' Lindstedt
Republican Candidate for Governor of Missouri -- 2004
www.martinlindstedt.org

Antiochus Epiphanes
January 7th, 2004, 11:41 AM
As usual Mr Lindestedt's posts are dense with important points based on his experience doing instead of just shit-talking from cyberspace.

Readers ought to reread his posts because they reflect both a sound revolutionary ideology and experience in applying it to his particular situation. A situation which as far as electoral participation in politics goes, applies pretty well to most places in the US.

I do want to bring out one point that he makes which I considered at length before ever advocating electoral participation:

"... I would say that a Resistance activist, particularly of the underground variety, is worth far more than being wasted by detection in a [s]election which shall be lost in any event..."

This may be true in theory, but it is my belief that there ARENT ANY WHITE RESISTANCE ACTIVISTS UNDERGROUND! And I'm not sure in hell not counting AB parolees who have violated their terms and are on the run maybe making a living selling meth! The racist "terrorist" is a FIGMENT OF THE JEW IMAGINATION and an excuse for bigger LE budgets-- only.

Oh, but wait AE what about...? There was the Posse Comitatus tax revolt of the early 80s which was squashed right along with Gordon Kahl, ther was the CSA illegal weapons factory which was busted, there was RJM and the BS, which story is most well known, there was ARA-- assuming they werent merely a criminal gang-- which is covered in a book review by Vic Wolzek at VNN-- and that was it for the past 20 years in terms of busts. Of course I'm not counting all the drunken hooligans that have bashed some groid and pulled down fat hate crime enhancements on their heads. Random violence directed at poor non-Whites is not my idea of effective resistance. If anything it's counterproductive as hell. They breed like rabbits so there is not attrition effect ever to even be hoped for, and the propaganda value of such incidents for the Jews is considerable. "Ben Smith" is case in point of this. Totally random, pointless violence with no benefit other than to keep the antis and feebs busy for the next ten years trying to frame up Hale and use the incident as "evidence" of some non-existent threat of organized hate crimes blah blah blah. Neither has it ever triggered some broader revolt a la "Hunter" fantasies. Nor will it in the land of the couch potato.

Probably the only White anti-system "resistance" one might remotely dovetail into WN interests are the environmentalists. And that would be a stretch. Not that the antis havent done it, quoting a few comments by Savitri Devi on vegetarianism and so forth.

So, my conclusion is that armed revolt is not imminent even remotely, and instead of a bunch of people "barrel polishing" in their basements sharpening their knives for the never-to-come "Day of the Rope," I would suggest people get off their asses and at least talk about WN and maybe even run.

Part of the reason we have a democracy is because we deserve it. You get the government you deserve and we no longer deserve a republic. We are stuck with the demos because aristoi are almost non-existent in this country. The demos is all hoi polloi and even the best of us are probably not worth spit compared either to the early American patriots, the Confederates, or the German patriots of the 20th century, to whom we all pay such empty lip service.

Put another way, if you dont have any IRA, why not at least try to have a Sinn Fein?