Relationship Advice Needed.

[Opus X]

Here is the deal.
I have fallen in love with a very green eyed, red headed woman. She has fallen in love with me as she has told me she loved me with tears in her eyes.
Anyways we are quite young, I am 22, and she is 23. She is going to be a RN and me, I plan to operate an Jewelry exporting business. However when we first met, things went good, then they went bad ( I said some things drunkenly that I regret) and her family has heard of what I said. Anyways she one of the last few good moral girls, still a virgin, volunteers for activites, and if there was such a god, she would be considered an Angel. I quit drinking, I quit being a menace I was when I was 21, I got that drinking binge year out of my system. I rarely drink and stuff. Anyways Her mom has told her that she wants her to get rid of me, and her Dad doesnt like me. Now she almost has a RN degree and my company is nearly started. I just want to know how to deal make amends with her Evangecal Christian Nutjob family, They even frown at me for not being EVANGECALAN, though they think im some sort of Xian; which I am not of course. What the hell should I do? We plan to marry, and have kids, and I want to have a strong immediate and secondary family. Thoughts? Suggestions?

[Sean Martin]

Dump her. you would seperate her from her family (something very Jewish) and cut her ties with her anscestors. She would never be happy with you feeling the way you do about her religion and no need ruining her life. Let her find someone more compatable and you should do the same.

Both of you would be miserable for the rest of your lives you because you don't like her religion and her because you forced her to sever her ties to her family.

Do the right thing, do the white thing.

[FranzJoseph]

If you love her and she loves you, take her.

Having inlaws is overrated. I married a blond and beautiful Polish-American orphan decades ago and I never, ever wished I had a mother-in-law or father-in-law or any of that.

If her homelife is as fucked up as it sounds, pretend to make up with her folks, play the game, and for god's sake get her the hell out of that toxic environment.

Face it, white American family life is screwed up. Better off that good and smart people split and start building traditions of their own anyway. My wife and I have and it works.

White nationalists are going to have their own country soon and we'll be one big extended family when we do. Leave the lemmings behind. They ain't helping now and they won't help later.

[Opus X]

TO DOC: I am not trying separate her, more the rather make amends with her family. I have changed and she has changed a little for the better with me. I do not like Evangelics (good news in greek) They and other Judeo-Xians are responsible for relecting the current Neocon Regime, something I despise. I am not trying to ruin her life, we are in love, and I have only been nice (minus a few drunken insults 9 months ago) and been there for her, something her family has not always been. The thing is I don't despise Xianity as a whole, just the BushSticker Driving, anti-abortion, pro-war types. I am not forcing her to do anything whatsoever, its her family mom and dad that dislike me when I walked thru their door because I wasn't a "True" Christian. I am trying to do the White thing by getting advice from real life people, my family, and on vnn and trying to tie the knots here.

TO FranzJoseph: I am sure her parents were trying to keep her at bay for as long as possible but she met me, I was her first boyfriend, even her first kiss at @22 and first everything else, which amazed me people like that still existed at 22. She is the last of a total 5 sibling girls, and she remains in that mansion. Well before I met her she has gotten beat up a few times with NO retaliation from her family against the aggressors, and Her parents abandoned another sister of hers, because she married a non-christian. How the hell is that for Family Values and Support? Her family is a little bit nutty, but I am in love with her, Its one of those things you just can't help.

[Sean Martin]

TO DOC:I do not like Evangelics (good news in greek)
Gospel is good news in Greek. Evangelical means to laud.

The thing is I don't despise Xianity as a whole, just the BushSticker Driving, anti-abortion, pro-war types.
Anti-abortion is an opinion and being for Bush is being against Jew Kerry which is a step in the right direction. I don't like Bush either but there isn't much of a choice.
its her family mom and dad that dislike me when I walked thru their door because I wasn't a "True" Christian.
Hmm, wonder what that means. A true Christian can back up their doctrine by the bible. I would like to hear their version. I feel pretty much the same way about others. Are they Baptists, Pentecostals ect?
Her parents abandoned another sister of hers, because she married a non-christian. How the hell is that for Family Values and Support?
Yup I can see that. Many believe that it is an absolute sin to marry outside of the faith. I teach against it also but I teach against interracial marriages to. Talk about narrowing the field. I even teach against marrying outside of the Church of Christ.

[Georgie]

Congratulations! Tricky situation. If this relationship results in the birth of White children..go for it. Forget the parents. Perhaps if you two hook up and things go well, their parents may change their minds about you and the girls religious views will change perhaps to be in tune with the relationship.

Anyway, even if the parents hate you, forget them. The only thing that matters is how you two feel about each other and if theres gonna be White babies coming out of that relationship.

Last thing you want is for this girl to marry a nonracialist Christian. And we know just how great those "men" are...

[Aryan Lord]

Here is the deal.
I have fallen in love with a very green eyed, red headed woman. She has fallen in love with me as she has told me she loved me with tears in her eyes.
Anyways we are quite young, I am 22, and she is 23. She is going to be a RN and me, I plan to operate an Jewelry exporting business. However when we first met, things went good, then they went bad ( I said some things drunkenly that I regret) and her family has heard of what I said. Anyways she one of the last few good moral girls, still a virgin, volunteers for activites, and if there was such a god, she would be considered an Angel. I quit drinking, I quit being a menace I was when I was 21, I got that drinking binge year out of my system. I rarely drink and stuff. Anyways Her mom has told her that she wants her to get rid of me, and her Dad doesnt like me. Now she almost has a RN degree and my company is nearly started. I just want to know how to deal make amends with her Evangecal Christian Nutjob family, They even frown at me for not being EVANGECALAN, though they think im some sort of Xian; which I am not of course. What the hell should I do? We plan to marry, and have kids, and I want to have a strong immediate and secondary family. Thoughts? Suggestions?

Well sorry to say this but you should have shown her a little more respect in the early days then perhaps her parents may not be so against you.
The negative impression that you have made may now be irreversable.
After all if I had a daughter I would be wary of her marrying a drunk.[No disrespect intended].
Her parents will also perceive her as marrying "outside the faith".You therefore are a threat in their eyes.
How strong are her religious convictions?
Balanced against that is the necessity for her to cut the umbilical cord,not an easy thing to do but a necessity.Only then can she develop psychologically.
Good parenting should never be interfering or domineering.However I fear there is little that you can do about the situation but see how it pans out.
That is families for you-a hotbed of neuroses.

[H.E.A.]

Marry the person, not the Family. However, do not Change your Beliefs and make it perfectly clear where you stand about religion, and how you wish to rear your future family. Dont Bend , or settle. If the "stupid" remarks you made are ones that you beleive in, dont aplogize or be phoney. Make sure this person is aware that you are into the WN/WS culture, beliefs & lifestyle.
Religion... SUCKS..... cause of all wars, personal or worldwise.
Don't Settle. Be Real, be yourself.

Good Luck!

[Antiochus Epiphanes]

Evangelicals are Puritannical about sex, drinking, and many other important activities of life. Next time go for a Catholic who isnt so tight. You arent going to find too many pagan chicks outside of fem-lez circles. LOL

[H.E.A.]

Evangelicals are Puritannical about sex, drinking, and many other important activities of life. Next time go for a Catholic who isnt so tight. You arent going to find too many pagan chicks outside of fem-lez circles. LOL


:D Ha Your funny! Catholic.... ( Catholics, biggest perverted Hypocrites)
But you are right, he'd get "some"

Someone posted a most Informative Link On Religion... I'll have to find it & post it for this young Man.

[H.E.A.]

Here is the deal.
I have fallen in love with a very green eyed, red headed woman. She has fallen in love with me as she has told me she loved me with tears in her eyes.
Anyways we are quite young, I am 22, and she is 23. She is going to be a RN and me, I plan to operate an Jewelry exporting business. However when we first met, things went good, then they went bad ( I said some things drunkenly that I regret) and her family has heard of what I said. Anyways she one of the last few good moral girls, still a virgin, volunteers for activites, and if there was such a god, she would be considered an Angel. I quit drinking, I quit being a menace I was when I was 21, I got that drinking binge year out of my system. I rarely drink and stuff. Anyways Her mom has told her that she wants her to get rid of me, and her Dad doesnt like me. Now she almost has a RN degree and my company is nearly started. I just want to know how to deal make amends with her Evangecal Christian Nutjob family, They even frown at me for not being EVANGECALAN, though they think im some sort of Xian; which I am not of course. What the hell should I do? We plan to marry, and have kids, and I want to have a strong immediate and secondary family. Thoughts? Suggestions?
My 2 cents again, This really angers me. Where is it written that someone cannot have morals Values & ethics etc. Without being brought up in Any Religion? Such Shit! I was brought up without any religion and I have strong morals & convictions But....
I didnt have sex till I was 21, stayed w/ him 14yrs. I have a brain & Morals & chose NOT to to be a human garbage dump as some stupid whores are! Again, DO NOT cave or Give in, you both are Adults & she is not a posession. Be real, honest, moral etc. WITHOUT ANY RELIGION. Offer to have her de-programmed (LOL) Good Luck to you, and as I stated you marry the PERSON, Not the Family. No Conversion needed.

[H.E.A.]

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[FranzJoseph]

You arent going to find too many pagan chicks outside of fem-lez circles. LOL

That was only part-true 20 years ago. Now it ain't at all so.

Everytime some local preacher says "Bush is doing the Lord's work" we get hundreds of new pagan chicks.

It might be a hell of a way to recruit, but it's what's happening. A wiccan bunch right up the street from us is booked solid just because of the election.

It's Rome in reverse: Crazy pagan emperors drove the powerless into the arms of the church. So why be surprised when a crazy Christian emperor does the same?

Where is it written that someone cannot have morals Values & ethics etc. Without being brought up in Any Religion? Such Shit!

I second that. It's been true in my personal experience. The wife had no religious upbringing and is as upstanding as anyone I've ever known and she's not the only example I could cite.

It's even more amazing when White Nationalists miss this point. The whole alleged movement is based on the idea that morals and values are, to a large degree, influenced by genetics.

[Sean Martin]

Everytime some local preacher says "Bush is doing the Lord's work" we get hundreds of new pagan chicks.

Let’s do the math since you Jews can’t count. Let’s say a thousand preachers say that on a Sunday (I think that is fairly conservative). Now you said hundreds so at least two hundred chicks convert to paganism each time a preacher says this.

So now we have two hundred thousand chicks converting every Sunday. That comes to 10,400,000 conversions each year. That is a lot of chicks converting every year. I notice you didn’t say white chicks so that includes all the voodoo groids and since paganism accepts anyone regardless of race or sexual preference do you count all the hermaphrodites and drag queens also?

Now didn’t I just make you look stupid?

Your response “no you didn’t”. You count like a Jew so let’s see if you can lie like a Jew also.

[FranzJoseph]

Let’s do the math

The issue isn't math, the numbers aren't the point, it's about where new pagans are coming from.

Does "reactionary" ring a bell? That's where it's happening, doc.

[Georgie]

Let’s do the math since you Jews can’t count. Let’s say a thousand preachers say that on a Sunday (I think that is fairly conservative). Now you said hundreds so at least two hundred chicks convert to paganism each time a preacher says this.

So now we have two hundred thousand chicks converting every Sunday. That comes to 10,400,000 conversions each year. That is a lot of chicks converting every year. I notice you didn’t say white chicks so that includes all the voodoo groids and since paganism accepts anyone regardless of race or sexual preference do you count all the hermaphrodites and drag queens also?

Now didn’t I just make you look stupid?

Your response “no you didn’t”. You count like a Jew so let’s see if you can lie like a Jew also.

No, youre a Jew.

[Opus X]

update

I have gotten to meet her parents better, and they see me as someone who they can trust around their daughter. They also know that I treat their daughter with respect, and love her, they also respect that. After I get to know her family more, eventually I will ask her father for his daughters ring. I guess the best thing I learned from this was to speak one-on-one to someone who might have a problem with you.

[Sean Martin]

No, youre a Jew.
How many Jews do you know that are named Martin that live on a farm in rural West Virgin and do carpentry work for a living?

Now to you have a rebuttal to my statement?


update

I have gotten to meet her parents better, and they see me as someone who they can trust around their daughter. They also know that I treat their daughter with respect, and love her, they also respect that. After I get to know her family more, eventually I will ask her father for his daughters ring. I guess the best thing I learned from this was to speak one-on-one to someone who might have a problem with you.

1 Corinthians 7:14 *For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.

Means when you marry a Christian there is a strong chance you will convert especially if you love her and she is fanatical about her religion.

Of course I doubt I would marry someone that is not a member of the Church of Christ (not just a Christian) so it is safe to say she is less fanatical than I am.

But respect her heritage and family ties.

[MOMUS]

I do. Congratulations upon combining ad hominem and Reductio ad absurdum in one idiotic post. Your command of logical fallacy improves, albeit slowly.

Reductio ad absurdum (Latin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin) for "reduction to the absurd", traceable back to the Greek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language) ἡ εις το αδυνατον απαγωγη, "reduction to the impossible", often used by Aristotle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristotle)) is a type of logical argument where we assume a claim for the sake of argument, arrive at an absurd result, and then conclude the original assumption must have been wrong, since it gave us this absurd result. This is also known as proof by contradiction. It makes use of the law of excluded middle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_excluded_middle) — a statement which cannot be false, must then be true.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum



Now to you have a rebuttal to my statement?

Originally Posted by sean(doc)martin
Let’s do the math since you Jews can’t count. Let’s say a thousand preachers say that on a Sunday (I think that is fairly conservative). Now you said hundreds so at least two hundred chicks convert to paganism each time a preacher says this.

So now we have two hundred thousand chicks converting every Sunday. That comes to 10,400,000 conversions each year. That is a lot of chicks converting every year. I notice you didn’t say white chicks so that includes all the voodoo groids and since paganism accepts anyone regardless of race or sexual preference do you count all the hermaphrodites and drag queens also?

Now didn’t I just make you look stupid?

Your response “no you didn’t”. You count like a Jew so let’s see if you can lie like a Jew also.

[Hadding]

Here is the deal.
I have fallen in love with a very green eyed, red headed woman. She has fallen in love with me as she has told me she loved me with tears in her eyes.
Anyways we are quite young, I am 22, and she is 23. She is going to be a RN and me, I plan to operate an Jewelry exporting business. However when we first met, things went good, then they went bad ( I said some things drunkenly that I regret) and her family has heard of what I said. Anyways she one of the last few good moral girls, still a virgin, volunteers for activites, and if there was such a god, she would be considered an Angel. I quit drinking, I quit being a menace I was when I was 21, I got that drinking binge year out of my system. I rarely drink and stuff. Anyways Her mom has told her that she wants her to get rid of me, and her Dad doesnt like me. Now she almost has a RN degree and my company is nearly started. I just want to know how to deal make amends with her Evangecal Christian Nutjob family, They even frown at me for not being EVANGECALAN, though they think im some sort of Xian; which I am not of course. What the hell should I do? We plan to marry, and have kids, and I want to have a strong immediate and secondary family. Thoughts? Suggestions?

You would certainly not be the only husband hated by his in-laws, nor would you be the only non-believer married to a Bible-believing woman. Both conditions are extremely common. You just need to make sure that these conditions aren't a problem in her mind.

Would they have no objection to their daughter marrying a nigger if he claimed to believe in the Bible and was a member of their church?

[Antiochus Epiphanes]

........the idea that morals and values are, to a large degree, influenced by genetics.

Morals, values, and behavior are influenced by genetics. agreed. but not determined on an individual basis-- I would still make room for free will and individual choice within the range of the possible.

I would certainly rather associate with healthy honest pagans and atheists than weak, lying, Jew-symp "Christians." Which is why I love VNN!