Thoughts on the WFP

[Derrick Beukeboom]

I'm glad to see that VNN media is starting to cultivate more active endeavors such as the WFP.
Let me just mention a few personal thoughts regarding this project.
It is obvious that I would vote for any candidate running for any office if they represented my interests. As we all would...
However, I'm not exactly sure if the very name 'White Freedom Party' will resonate with anyone outside of the WN scene.
I'm thinking about a more omni-propoganda sort of name like American Democratic Union or something along those lines. Something that doesn't really SOUND like it's purpose.....the reason for this is so you can gain numbers and play the marketing sales game.
We may not want to play this game, but if we don't, the game will play us.
In Europe, the Nationalist parties do not have anything like 'white' in them.
That is stating the obvious.
From a marketing standpoint, we grass rooters on the streets are not given the proper weapons to work with.
WFP can be a difficult sell to anyone that is not already WN aware.

Ok, but I have enormous faith in Alex and will loyally support this WFP project for obvious reasons.
I'm just trying to put myself in the shoes of non-WN minded White Americans.

As for the flag, please forget the DNA thing. That's just silly.
Many of the simple designs are nice. Less is more sometimes. Forget any confederate type of symbols. Again, I can't work with that on the streets.

Symbols/Mascots: maybe a wolf or eagle/hawk or something. Simple but strong. Preferably something with a little charisma and historically American.
People like mascots. Think of many of our targeted market as sports fans.
Now, they support the nigger and wigger athletes and espn....we want them to start cheering for their racial interests.

Slogan: we are the good guys, not the alienated outsiders that jews on the teevee tell people we are.
"America for Americans".
"Out for Your interests!"

Immigration is the key issue at this point in time. Yes, it is the jews who are primarily responsible for this, but that point is moot right now. The jews will obviously smoke themselves out.
Immigration, immigration, immigration......please focus on this! There are all sorts of angles to work that: economic, political, social, cultural, linguistic, educational ,etc.

Alright, that's just a few random thoughts I had regarding this project.
Comments and thoughts welcome

[Antiochus Epiphanes]

immigration+
out of iraq and middle eastern squabbles+
end to exporting jobs/freetrade/globalism+
end to affirmative action+
restoration of free association in housing and employment+
end to special treatment for Israel and Jewish fifth columnists in US government and media

=

a DAMN GOOD PLATFORM!

[Derrick Beukeboom]

Yes, that is one hell of a GREAT platform. What White American would not vote for this platform??
Then again, at this point in time, who would think so many White Americans would not already demand these things?

Let's just realize that due to many reasons we will be swimming upstream.

[Antiochus Epiphanes]

well, for starters, to criticize my own suggestion in reply to your question, I think that there are many White people who work for MNCs multinational corporations-- who are trained to believe that offshoring and so forth is a good thing. Until it happens to them! Like the Microsoft engineers, who probably grew up saying "no big deal" over the lost manufacturing jobs of tvs and computer stuff which is not made here but is in Taiwan and so forth.

But on the plus side, anti-globalism is a position that appeals to lefties and so I think it's got "legs" as an issue goes.

[siobhain]

Just like anti-war, anti-globalist positions will draw in lefties/greenies,
an anti-abortion position will potentially draw in christians, as well as strong tax benefits for mothers who stay home, or higher per-child tax benefits.

[Derrick Beukeboom]

both excellent issues that as you state AE "have legs".
Now to us jew aware types, we know that peel enough layers from these issues and poof! - you see the kikes.
But that is neither here nor there at this point in time.
People know that something somewhere is drastically wrong in this country.
That something is the jews and their multiculti Aryan destructive agenda.
Now, this is the fork in the road.
Alex will no doubt state that dealing up front with the jews and dealing with them headon is the better longterm strategy.
Perhaps.
But for the immediate future, I think that to get the ball rolling and to build momentum, we can utilize immigration and globalization to move some minds.

The tabloid is a great step in providing seeds for the mind in regards to the jewish question.
As for the party, that will be more out in the open.
So, the kikes will bring out all their big guns to destroy us.
Let us use this knowledge to our advantage.

Let's set a grand trap for the jews. Many many Whites want someone somewhere to deal with the immigrants and the globalization. These terms are not off limits just yet.
Please let us utilize them.
The dots will connect themselves.

[brutus]

RE: Derrick Beukeboom

Great thoughts! Thank you.

Please allow me to add a couple of ideas.

When thinking about who would vote for the WFP, we must keep in mind the way how most people feel about things:

"What’s in it for me?"

That’s all they want to know!.............And we must answer that question and tell them directly and as simply as possible.


This is what they are promised now by George Bush and the republicans:

America will make sure Iraq has democracy

Social Security will remain solvent

No child will be left behind

Free healthcare will soon be here



Some suggestions of what we should promise them:

America will fight for only American interests.

There will be no financial aid paid to any country by the government. The government will encourage private charities and give preferential consideration to those who help Americans first.

All productive Americans will be able to retire with ample resources and with the utmost dignity

Children will be safe, once again in school and be truly able to obtain a real education.

World-class healthcare will be provided to all working American families.

Women will be able to walk alone, unescorted in any city in America and not fear of being raped

Employment will provide adequate compensation to male workers, whereby their wives need not work in order to raise a family, regardless of how many children they have.

The cost of retail goods will go down due to lower loss prevention costs for retailers.

Insurance costs will also go down across the board.

Convicted first-degree murderers will be publicly executed within the first year of their conviction to assure the victim’s family swift justice and closure.

Pedophilia crimes will warrant the death penalty.

............suggestions like these listed above, should be agreed upon by the leaders before we take the platform to the streets. There should be no arguing by WNs in public about differences of opinion with regard to our platform. Now is the time to iron-out the details. I can't state this any simpler.

[Angle]

How would the WFP go about knocking the supreme court into line with regard to its sophistical interpretations of the Constitution?

The most difficult thing for the WFP platform is how to reconcile proper freedoms and liberties without encroaching on the rights of, say, women in the workplace. Some women will be very pissed off at looking forward to a period of domestic bliss with the WFP and see it as a breach of their freedom to work.

[Antiochus Epiphanes]

How would the WFP go about knocking the supreme court into line with regard to its sophistical interpretations of the Constitution?

The most difficult thing for the WFP platform is how to reconcile proper freedoms and liberties without encroaching on the rights of, say, women in the workplace. Some women will be very pissed off at looking forward to a period of domestic bliss with the WFP and see it as a breach of their freedom to work.

same way Roosevelt did. Sauce for the Goose.

But that's so far off, it's barely worth discussing. I favor focusing on specific legislative initiatives which can really be introduced by the candidates should they win their offices. Such as introducing bills to repeal state or federal "civil rights" laws that criminalize freedom of association.

[T.C. Lynch]

Derek B. wrote:

"I'm not exactly sure if the very name 'White Freedom Party' will resonate with anyone outside of the WN scene.
I'm thinking about a more omni-propoganda sort of name like American Democratic Union or something along those lines. Something that doesn't really SOUND like it's purpose.....the reason for this is so you can gain numbers and play the marketing sales game."

This really is folly. The White race is literally on the road to extinction because Jews have created a cultural atmosphere in which the typical politician type is scared shitless to advocate White interests as such, then the Jews have exploited this atmosphere to legislatively displace White leadership elites and open White living space to fast-breeding, hostile non-White invaders.

The only way we are going to save the White race is to openly advocate White interests as such and to openly oppose Jewish interests as such. Otherwise, Derek B.'s "American Democratic Union" will at best be just another form of Republicanism.

The best Republicans really do want to advance White interests. But they think they can do so only by phrasing all of their policies and principles in race-neutral, universalist, individualist terms, which are in part designed, they think, to fool the Jews into believing them harmless, because, as every Jew knows, any group of universalistic individualists is just a collection of suckers who are at a systematic disadvantage when they come up against the Jewish hive.

I do not trust any man who claims to defend something he is afraid to name. I do not trust any man who thinks it practical to hide the true intent of a party in order to recruit adherents who will just prevent the party from pursuing its aims and leave it in droves once they discover the what the true aims are.

Really, Hitler dealt with all of this in MEIN KAMPF. It is the greatest book on organizing a radical political movement I have ever encountered. It is not the last word, but it should be the first, because it would help us to avoid making many destructive and foolish errors.

[Hibernian]

Derek B. wrote:

"I'm not exactly sure if the very name 'White Freedom Party' will resonate with anyone outside of the WN scene.
I'm thinking about a more omni-propoganda sort of name like American Democratic Union or something along those lines. Something that doesn't really SOUND like it's purpose.....the reason for this is so you can gain numbers and play the marketing sales game."

This really is folly. The White race is literally on the road to extinction because Jews have created a cultural atmosphere in which the typical politician type is scared shitless to advocate White interests as such, then the Jews have exploited this atmosphere to legislatively displace White leadership elites and open White living space to fast-breeding, hostile non-White invaders.

The only way we are going to save the White race is to openly advocate White interests as such and to openly oppose Jewish interests as such. Otherwise, Derek B.'s "American Democratic Union" will at best be just another form of Republicanism.

The best Republicans really do want to advance White interests. But they think they can do so only by phrasing all of their policies and principles in race-neutral, universalist, individualist terms, which are in part designed, they think, to fool the Jews into believing them harmless, because, as every Jew knows, any group of universalistic individualists is just a collection of suckers who are at a systematic disadvantage when they come up against the Jewish hive.

I do not trust any man who claims to defend something he is afraid to name. I do not trust any man who thinks it practical to hide the true intent of a party in order to recruit adherents who will just prevent the party from pursuing its aims and leave it in droves once they discover the what the true aims are.

Really, Hitler dealt with all of this in MEIN KAMPF. It is the greatest book on organizing a radical political movement I have ever encountered. It is not the last word, but it should be the first, because it would help us to avoid making many destructive and foolish errors.


I agree 100%. The WFP must be open and straightforward in promoting the ideas of White Nationalism. Using a generic sounding name will only serve to dilute our message. (IMO)

We are who we are. We seek the protection and advancement of the White race only, and the welfare of all others are no concern of ours.

The name of any White political party should reflect that.

[Rounder]

I couldn't agree more, T.C. There's no way out for us, but thru the jews.

The kikes only laugh at clever "sneak up on the jews" tactics. And besides, those tactics are dishonest, confusing, misleading, therefore deceptive and doomed to failures.

[Abzug Hoffman]

White Freedom brings to my mind faggot Elton John singing Philadelphia Freedom or some other stupid MTV production with a bunch of smiling darkies and gays dancing around singing "Freedom! Freedom!"

[Rounder]

White Freedom brings to my mind faggot Elton John singing Philadelphia Freedom or some other stupid MTV production with a bunch of smiling darkies and gays dancing around singing "Freedom! Freedom!"

One can say the same thing about any name we come up with.

Besides, the White masses have been programmed to love the words "Freedom ! Freedom ! Freedom !!!" Therefore, will be even more inclined to love the White Freedom Party.

But it really isn't the name that makes a movement successful. It's the people in it who decide it's success or failure. And the WFP has Alex Linder, Rounder, White Will, and numerous other loyal VNN'ers. So how can the WFP fail ???