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no_nomen
December 3rd, 2003, 09:45 PM
Darkness Fell Upon the Face of the Earth and

This night lasted for a thousand years ...

The sun was blotted from the intellectual heaven,
every star extinguished, and there fell upon the
world that shadow — that midnight, known as

"The Dark Ages."
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Whoever steps between a priest and his salary, will find that he has committed every crime.

No matter how often the slanders may be refuted, they will be repeated until the last priest has lost his body and found his wings...

... Whenever the church cannot answer the arguments of an opponent, she attacks his character. She resorts to falsehood, and in the domain of calumny she has stood for fifteen hundred years without a rival.

The great Empire (Rome) was crumbling to its fall. The literature of the world was being destroyed by priests. The gods and goddesses were driven from the earth and sky. The paintings were torn and defaced. The statues were broken. The walls were left desolate, and the niches empty. Art, like Rachel, wept for her children, and would not be comforted. The streams and forests were deserted by the children of the imagination, and the whole earth was barren, poor and mean.

Christian ignorance, bigotry and hatred, in blind unreasoning zeal, had destroyed the treasures of our race. Art was abhorred, Knowledge was despised, Reason was an outcast. The sun was blotted from the intellectual heaven, every star extinguished, and there fell upon the world that shadow — that midnight, known as "The Dark Ages."

This night lasted for a thousand years ...

The first star that enriched the horizon of this universal gloom was Giordano Bruno. He was the herald of the dawn.

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He was born in 1550, was educated for a priest, became a Dominican friar. At last his reason revolted against the doctrine of transubstantiation. He could not believe that the entire Trinity was in a wafer, or in a swallow of wine. He could not believe that a man could devour the Creator of the universe by eating a piece of bread. This led him to investigate other dogmas of the Catholic Church, and in every direction he found the same contradictions and impossibilities supported, not by reason, but by faith.

Those who loved their enemies threatened his life. He was obliged to flee from his native land, and he became a vagabond in nearly every nation of Europe. He declared that he fought, not what priests believed, but what they pretended to believe. He was driven from his native country because of his astronomical opinions. He had lost confidence in the Bible as a scientific work. He was in danger because he had discovered a truth.

He fled to England. He gave some lectures at Oxford. He found that institution controlled by priests. He found that they were teaching nothing of importance — only the impossible and the hurtful. He called Oxford "the widow of true learning." There were in England, at that time, two men who knew more than the rest of the world. Shakespeare was then alive.

Bruno was driven from England. He was regarded as a dangerous man, — he had opinions, he inquired after reasons, he expressed confidence in facts. He fled to France. He was not allowed to remain in that country. He discussed things — that was enough. The church said, "move on." He went to Germany. He was not a believer — he was an investigator. The Germans wanted believers: they regarded the whole Christian system as settled; they wanted witnesses; they wanted men who would assert. So he was driven from Germany.

He returned at last to his native land. He found himself without friends, because he had been true, not only to himself, but to the human race. But the world was false to him because he refused to crucify the Christ of his own soul between the two thieves of hypocrisy and bigotry. He was arrested for teaching that there are other worlds than this; that many of the stars are suns, around which other worlds revolve; that Nature did not exhaust all her energies on this grain of sand called the earth. He believed in a plurality of worlds, in the rotation of this, in the heliocentric theory.

For these crimes, and for these alone, he was imprisoned for six years. He was kept in solitary confinement. He was allowed no books, no friends, no visitors. He was denied pen and paper. In the darkness, in the loneliness, he had time to examine the great questions of origin, of existence, of destiny. He put to the test what is called the goodness of God. He found that he could neither depend upon man nor upon any deity. At last the Inquisition demanded him. He was tried, condemned, excommunicated and sentenced to be burned.



According to Professor Draper, he (G.B.) believed that this world is animated by an intelligent soul — the cause of forms, but not of matter; that it lives in all things, even in such as seem not to live; that everything is ready to become organized; that matter is the mother of forms, and then their grave; that matter and the soul of things, together, constitute God. He was a pantheist — that is to say, an atheist. He was a lover of Nature, — a reaction from the asceticism of the church. He was tired of the gloom of the monastery. He loved the fields, the woods, the streams. He said to his brother-priests: Come out of your cells, out of your dungeons: come into the air and light. Throw away your beads and your crosses. Gather flowers; mingle with your fellow-men; have wives and children; scatter the seeds of joy; throw away the thorns and nettles of your creeds; enjoy the, perpetual miracle of life.

On the sixteenth day of February, in the year of grace 1600, by "the triumphant beast," the Church of Rome, this philosopher, this great and splendid man, was burned. He was offered his liberty if he would recant. There was no God to be offended by his recantation, and yet, as an apostle of what he believed to be the truth, he refused this offer. To those who passed the sentence upon him he said: "It is with greater fear that ye pass this sentence upon me than I receive it."

This man, greater than any naturalist of his day; grander than the martyr of any religion, died willingly in defence of what he believed to be the sacred truth. He was great enough to know that real religion will not destroy the joy of life on earth; great enough to know that investigation is not a crime — that the really useful is not hidden in the mysteries of faith. He knew that the Jewish records were below the level of the Greek and Roman myths; that there is no such thing as special providence; that prayer is useless; that liberty and necessity are the same, and that good and evil are but relative.

He was the first real martyr, — neither frightened by perdition, nor bribed by heaven. He was the first of all the world who died for truth without expectation of reward. He did not anticipate a crown of glory. His imagination had not peopled the heavens with angels waiting for his soul. He had not been promised an eternity of joy if he stood firm, nor had he been threatened with the fires of hell if he wavered and recanted. He expected as his reward an eternal nothing! Death was to him an everlasting end — nothing beyond but a sleep without a dream, a night without a star, without a dawn — nothing but extinction, blank, utter, and eternal. No crown, no palm, no "well done, good and faithful servant," no shout of welcome, no song of praise, no smile of God, no kiss of Christ, no mansion in the fair skies — not even a grave within the earth — nothing but ashes, wind-blown and priest-scattered, mixed with earth and trampled beneath the feet of men and beasts.

The murder of this man will never be completely and perfectly avenged until from Rome shall be swept every vestige of priest and pope, until over the shapeless ruin of St. Peter's, the crumbled Vatican and the fallen cross, shall rise a monument to Bruno, — the thinker, philosopher, philanthropist, atheist, martyr.
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Robert Ingersoll (1833-1899): scientific rationalist and agnostic, son of a Congregational minister, notable defender of Darwin. The preceding text is a selection from his Great Infidels, published in 1881.

(Exerpt from one of the finest White Nationalist Libraries
http://library.flawlesslogic.com/
http://library.flawlesslogic.com/julian_1.htm

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thewalloonsss
December 3rd, 2003, 11:27 PM
for your continued posts pointing out the absurdity of Christ-Insanity.

no_nomen
December 3rd, 2003, 11:52 PM
for your continued posts pointing out the absurdity of Christ-Insanity.

SIEGE ! Sir
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FadeTheButcher
December 4th, 2003, 05:57 AM
Christian ignorance, bigotry and hatred, in blind unreasoning zeal, had destroyed the treasures of our race.

LOL what treasures would these be? Computers in Scandinavia? Electricity in Russia? Running water in the Crimea? :p

Art was abhorred, Knowledge was despised, Reason was an outcast.

Who abhorred art? Who despised knowledge? Who outcasted reason? Tell us.

The sun was blotted from the intellectual heaven, every star extinguished, and there fell upon the world that shadow — that midnight, known as "The Dark Ages."

What no_nomen is really trying to say here is that Southern Europe was overran by Northern Europe where the Dark Ages had been already been in existence for a hundred thousand years. :p

Gott
December 4th, 2003, 04:19 PM
"Who abhorred art? Who despised knowledge? Who outcasted reason? Tell us."


Most of the Germanic invaders of the Roman Empire had a profound respect for Roman culture and sought to emulate it. I suggest you read Gibbon and the letters of Sidonius Apollinaris who was a christian Roman living in Narbonensis, currently the south of France, during the time of the Germanic invasions and who leaves many details of Teutonic court life then - courts in awe of, and eager to imitate and earn the praises and compliments of Rome.

The temples, the cult statues (created by perhaps the greatest sculptors who ever lived), the sacred liturgies, etc, were systematically and almost totally destroyed by the christians, not the Germans. Under quite a few christian churches have been found the ruins of many a temple - under one in Rome are the remains of an altar to the God Mithras, smashed into over a thousand pieces by the christians who then built their church on top of it. The temple of Athena in Syracuse was forcibly converted into a christian church (the oldest continuously used place of worship in the western world, I believe), and many, many other temples were taken over, stripped of their statues, paintings and sacred regalia and converted to christian worship. The statue of Victory which presided over the Roman Senate was forcibly removed and destroyed, by the christians, despite the pleas of the mostly Pagan senate and people. Virtually all the poems of Sappho are lost - because they were intentionally destroyed by the christians. The enormous majority of antiquity's literature is lost for the same exact reason. They only kept whatever could be tortured into some kind of idiotic 'prediction' of christ and christianity - Virgil being the most celebrated example, because of a single obscure line in one of his poems being taken to prophesies the coming of christ. If your poems or scientific studies or philosophical inquiries were not so lucky, there was a good chance they would be fed to the flames, by the christians.

Hardly any of the liturgy, and few records of the rituals of any Greek or Roman religion has been preserved because the christians destroyed them. The worst Germanic sack of Rome was that of the Vandals in 455 - in which the city was systematically stripped of everything that could be carried away. But it was carried away, not destroyed, not burned. When a hundred years later, a Byzantine army overthrew the Vandalic kingdom of Africa and captured the capital city of Carthage - they found all that had been taken from Rome in 455, and in turn took it to Constantinople.

Outside of the tired fantasies of christian apologists, this is all well established fact, easily found in any decent history book. Try reading, you might like it.

no_nomen
December 4th, 2003, 06:11 PM
Outside of the tired fantasies of christian apologists.

Hel of a lot of those around Sir!

The dim the make sounds just like
that of a bunch of "yammering Yids" Ha!

The "Darkness" is still with us!

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Gott
December 4th, 2003, 06:34 PM
Well, they aren't any different from the yids with their jew prophets, and old testament and lousy sand nigger god. Talk about low ideals! The Romans had Jupiter and the Germans had Wotan and the Persians had Mithras...and the christians have a dirty sand nigger. Oh yeah, that is to show that all men are 'equal' and all that. The idea that any christians can be part of a white nationalist movement is ridiculous; they had better emulate their sand nigger god and go kiss a turd worlder or jew. Methinks this guy is spending too much time watching sit-coms and cop shows, ....the logic is none too good. But then, you can't be christian and have any connection with logic, or honesty, or truth either.
Fuck them.
At least Gabrielle isn't here, yet...to 'fix' Socrates, etc.

no_nomen
December 4th, 2003, 07:02 PM
Gott Sir,

Gabby? Just wait a bit. The Yammerin' Yenta will be here shortly I am sure.
As Varg Vikernes so astutely observed:


As long as you have your Jewish faith you are Artificial Jews

and shall be treated accordingly!

btw: you might enjoy:

Varg Vikernes - Reality Time (in English)
http://www.y-quest.net/vikernes-e.htm

even more:
http://www.y-quest.net/

Hugin
June 28th, 2004, 05:06 PM
Well, they aren't any different from the yids with their jew prophets, and old testament and lousy sand nigger god.

So let me get this straight. We should repudiate all the Western philosophers, monarchs, mathematicians, artists, inventors, scientists, musicians and so forth that were Christians because they believed in a "lousy sand nigger god"? Is that right?

Talk about low ideals!

What is your ideal again? The slavery of the Roman Empire?

The Romans had Jupiter

How many white slaves did the Jewish citizens of the Roman Empire own?

and the Germans had Wotan

Give me the names of some significant German philosophers, artists, scientists, and musicians that worshipped Wotan.

and the Persians had Mithras...

Didn't the Mithras cult come from the sand niggers of the Middle East?

and the christians have a dirty sand nigger.

Christianity has contributed far more to Western civilization than the scattered heathen tribes of Northern Europe ever did. Tell me this. What period of German history was more significant? 400BC to 400AD or 400AD to 1400AD?

Oh yeah, that is to show that all men are 'equal' and all that.

This ideal comes more from the humanists of the Renaissance and the philosophes of the Enlightenment than from Medieval Christianity which was hierarchially organized along class lines into three orders - those who pray, those who fight, and those who work. Are you going to repudiate the Enlightenment and the Renaissance too?

The idea that any christians can be part of a white nationalist movement is ridiculous

I have yet to understand why crude, unsophisticated, charlatans who slander our ancestors have any place in the white nationalist movement. I don't see what tearing down people that have been dead for hundreds of years does to rectify our situation.

they had better emulate their sand nigger god and go kiss a turd worlder or jew.

What sewer do people like you crawl out of? The reason the white nationalist movement has gone nowhere is because it is so infested with uncouth degenerates like yourself. Trailer trash like yourself make the average person's skin crawl. Its a good thing the white nationalist movement has begun excluding people like that.

Methinks this guy is spending too much time watching sit-coms and cop shows, ....the logic is none too good.

White trash like yourself do nothing but embarrass and discredit racialism in the eyes of the public. No one takes crude, fat ass, beer-guzzling hicks seriously.

But then, you can't be christian and have any connection with logic, or honesty, or truth either.

LMAO actually the scientific method itself originated in the Christian Middle Ages. So did empiricism.

Fuck them.

No, fuck you. White trash like yourself simply need to get lost. We don't need losers like yourself in the white nationalist movement any longer.

Antiochus Epiphanes
June 28th, 2004, 05:22 PM
Boy, is that ever the truth.

The "Darkness" is still with us!
christian apologists
"yammering Yids"
Trolls Everywhere !



I've been apologizing for Christianity. Are you calling me a troll or a yid?

Abzug Hoffman
June 28th, 2004, 06:02 PM
Bruno was a jonny nobody but is mourned by Kabbalists and Theosophists and magicians everywhere. He was killed because he pissed too many people off, they were kind to let him live so long.

Hugin
June 28th, 2004, 06:29 PM
The great Empire (Rome) was crumbling to its fall.

The notion that Christianity caused 'the fall' of the Roman Empire is patently ridiculous. The Roman Empire survived until the year 1453 AD as the Byzantine Empire. Furthermore, the Eastern Empire was both A.) more thoroughly Christianized and B.) more prosperous than the West. So this begs the question. If Christianity destroyed the Roman Empire, then why did the Western Empire fall yet the Eastern Empire survive? This is actually a moot question as the consensus within contemporary historiography is that Christianity pace Gibbon did not cause the fall of the Roman Empire at all.

The literature of the world was being destroyed by priests.

What literature was this? The literature of the illiterate heathen pre-Christian Germanic tribes? These people had no literature worthy of the name to destroy. Furthermore, a great deal of the literature of antiquity was preserved in Constantinople's libraries for centuries until it made its way to the West after its final fall to the Turks. And finally, much of this literature was destroyed by the pagans themselves. A good example of this is all the paintings that were simply thrown in the trash by the Greeks after Athens was sacked by the Persians.

The gods and goddesses were driven from the earth and sky.

The Romans had long began to abandon the old pagan gods before the triumph of Christianity under Constantaine. In fact, Christianity was only one of many of the cults and religions that had found their way into the Roman Empire from the East. The reason these foreign cults flourished in the first place was because of the already declining status of the old gods. The feeling of otherworldliness in the Roman Empire after the chaos of the 3rd century was not a product of Christianity. Neoplatonism and the Stoics had long been paving that road.

Abzug Hoffman
June 28th, 2004, 09:18 PM
OBVIOUSLY ! The church can't let thinking people live .... thinking is a SIN and might just come back in vogue!

On the sixteenth day of February, in the year of grace 1600, by "the triumphant beast," the Church of Rome, this philosopher, this great and splendid man, was burned.


:)

Bruno was thinking in Hebraic. No good can come of this.

Mithras
June 29th, 2004, 01:14 PM
The notion that Christianity caused 'the fall' of the Roman Empire is patently ridiculous.

The Church is patently opposed to the Empire. They view the Emperor as blasphemous, for it goes against the xian MIA and imaginary "God" as the "highest power." The Church slowly but steadily destroyed All Empires just as they destroyed any rival traditional religion (Aryan paganism).

But perhaps this is too complicated for your peabrain to understand. You should stick to your xian hippy-jippy peace-love jesus-fuck-a-thon. :D

And change your godamned name, you fucking jew-worshipper. :mad:

Antiochus Epiphanes
June 29th, 2004, 01:26 PM
Hmm Mitras your view of history is pretty odd if you believe Christianity is anti-imperial. Can you please explain what Constantine and Charlemagne were thinking then? "In hoc signo vinces."

Actually, the usual anti-Christian nationalist diatribe states that Emperors like to install Christianity in place of ethnic-national identity to help "meld" or "glue" disparate parts of a big Empire together. Beyond Rome, Byzantium and the Holy Roman Empire there is also the example of Russia. How does that history jibe with yours? I dont understand your point of view on this.

Finally Mithras but your invective is not very welcoming to a new poster like Hugin. Is this your idea of recruitment? LOL

Mithras
June 29th, 2004, 01:38 PM
Hmm Mitras your view of history is pretty odd if you believe Christianity is anti-imperial. Can you please explain what Constantine and Charlemagne were thinking then?

You dipshit. Constantine was staunchly xian. He is an example of what happens when an xian fundamentalist is king, or in words familiar to your peabrain the representation of the jewish god in the flesh. An emperor by tradition is "pagan." Funny how Constantine slaughtered tons of Aryans who practiced the Old Ways and wouldn't convert to xianity. Constantine is the WORST PERVERSION of Imperialism that you could ever mention. You christian sympathizers are truly pathetic scum.

FranzJoseph
June 29th, 2004, 02:06 PM
Constantine was staunchly xian...

Constantine was an asshole but he worshipped Sol Invictus.

His deathbed "baptism" by Christian bishops might only be a rumor. There's no real evidence it happened.

Contantine was the last of a line of emperors that wanted a hive mind for the collapsing Roman Empire. He pushed it on the peasants; he himself (like most high-ranking xians in all eras) believed in very little besides power.

Ask yourself why the Roman church never made their founder-emperor a Saint. For that matter why didn't they canonize the other jesus-pushers from Diocletian on up? Because then it would be obvious even to dunces that the religion was put together by power-mad mobsters, not "god".

Fun way to learn about the skeletons in Rome's closet: Julian by Gore Vidal. Writen from a pagan point of view (of course!) Vidal accurately portrays Constantine as the shifty-eyed mass murderer he was. Julian is a work of fiction but Vidal spent five years reading the source material in the original Greek and Latin. It's better researched than most history, and a lot easier to read.

Mithras
June 30th, 2004, 08:34 AM
Constantine was an asshole but he worshipped Sol Invictus.


who he thought was jesus.

Constantine forced Rome to accept the cult of xianity and their worshippers or face death. He was in bed with the jews, and nothing more than a typical "politician."

To say that xians are "spiritual" because they "worship" is a folly. They only "worship" in the manner they do because they are servile.

History tells us that Constantine did what he did because the jewish "god" told him to do it. And it is written in the bible that anyone who doesn't accept "christ" or xianity should be killed.

Mithras
June 30th, 2004, 09:43 AM
Constantine should be the symbol for all christian WNs everywhere. Constantine was the master of deception who put the western face to jesus and merged christian principles with pagan ones. He only formally converted "on his deathbed" because such things were beneath him. He believed he was the physical manifestation of christ and acted in like manner. To call constantine an "emperor" is a disgrace. Too many people are brainwashed by liberal media and christian researchers who think being a king means that you conquer territories and take over the world as an evil dictator. Hence, the constantine model.