Scythian Silver & Bronze Coins For Sale Inexpensively

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Greco and Indian influences abound on Scythian coinage; those cultures spanned large geographic areas, and traded weapons, slaves, etc. In the next post to this thread, I'll show Greco coinage with swastikas.

The obverse image of the king as horseman in the ancient world was most prominently displayed on the drachms and tetradrachms of the Indo-Scythian and Indo-Parthian rulers Azes and Gondophares. These kings were originally of nomadic stock from the Scythian steppes. They ruled over the sedentary populations of NW India in the 1st century BC. In image they were (1) represented to their subjects as mounted warriors on the millions upon millions of coins they issued.

This tradition of presenting nomadic rulers, or their progeny, as mounted warriors to the largely sedentary subject populations in Afghanistan and North West India dominated coin issue for the next millenium.
http://www.anythinganywhere.com/info/tye/Horsemen.htm

This one is just $21.00:
SCYTHIAN, Azes II, c 35 BC - 5 AD
http://www.anythinganywhere.com/commerce/coins/coinpics/indi-scy-ma2431'2-1.jpg
http://webwarper.net/ww/~av/www.anythinganywhere.com/commerce/coins/coinpics/indi-scyth.htm

$12.00 each- Indo-Scythian bronze coins:
http://ancient-coins.com/image/s007.jpg
http://www.ancient-coins.com/shop/agora.cgi?&product=Special

A museum Indo-Scythian silver piece, c. 57-35 BC-
http://www-cm.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/coins/east-west/gallery/gallery_27B.html

SAKAS-SCYTHIAN KINGDOM
The Scythians were an Indo-European people who penetrated into Eastern Europe and the Caucasus after 1,000 BC and by 650 BC controlled much of modern southern Russia, northern Iran, and Northeastern Turkey. They were hardy nomadic warriors who fought mainly from horseback, producing weapons and armor highly sought-after in the Greek world for outstanding quality and workmanship. In the later second century BC, a huge migration by the Asiatic Yueh Chi forced the Scythians into new realms. They penetrated into Afghanistan and Northern India circa 110 BC...
http://users2.ev1.net/~legionary/mainevent/coins/Scythian.html

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http://www.swastika-info.com/images/gallery/munten/greece/00003p00.jpg
Pegasus flying to the left
Right: A carved square with Swastika
http://www.swastika-info.com/en/gallery.php?showtopic=munten

http://www.swastika-info.com/images/gallery/munten/greece/00070p00.jpg
1/24 Goldstater (Obol) 650/550 BC. Swastika
http://www.swastika-info.com/en/gallery.php?showtopic=munten

[Chain]

An ancient Thracian coin. Thracians were White too.
Sold in July of 2003 at auction for just $61.00
http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/thrace/cherronesos/hemidrachm_swastika.1.jpg
http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/thrace/cherronesos/hemidrachm_swastika.1.txt
Reference 'Thracian Gold'-
http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=10523&highlight=thracian&*

[Chain]

When I first stared at the Scythian coins in the first post- look right below the king's arm- I thought I saw a type of swastika. But then I figured I was reaching- trying, for wanting, to see something that was not present.

But just now I pulled this image from a swastika thread in the graphics forum at SF. It's astonishing if it is what the poster claims- a swastika. Haven't read the image source webpage, but I will. It is billed as 'Thor's Hammer' on the site.

What do you think?
http://www.sunnyway.com/runes/
http://www.sunnyway.com/runes/thorshamar.gif

[Whirlwind]

Have you seen that "insane clown posse" logo of a character running with a cleaver? Should have seen the look on the kid's face when I told him it reminded me of a swastika. THEN HE AGREED.

[Chain]

The Scythians, Thracians, and Sassanians (Iranian or 'Aryanian' located) may quite possibly have been related.

We have the Thracian Gold thread and this one. Threads overlap some.

The Scythians were definitely ancestors of the Rajputs.

Anyway, just found these attractive Sassanian images. Am putting them in this thread. The Sassanian Shapur said he was descended from Aryans- he carved it in huge stone script which one can still see in Iran.
http://depts.washington.edu/uwch/silkroad/exhibit/sassanians/ps295640.html
http://depts.washington.edu/uwch/silkroad/exhibit/sassanians/images/ps294533.jpg

http://depts.washington.edu/uwch/silkroad/exhibit/sassanians/images/ps041573.jpg

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http://depts.washington.edu/uwch/silkroad/exhibit/sassanians/essay.html
http://depts.washington.edu/uwch/silkroad/exhibit/sassanians/images/ps295640.jpg
Silver plate showing Shapur II
Sassanian, 4th century CE
Silver and gold
Width: 11.57 cm
Height: 12.8 cm
Acquisition number: #ANE 124091
Bequeathed by Sir A.W. Franks

[Whirlwind]

Now that is art. Especially like that image of the stylized dog creature and the border on same. As for the item depicting a stag dispatched by a regal figure astride it, I can't decide whether the art or story depicted is more striking.
Don't see too many modern examples of the long, straight bridge noses.

[Magog]

Germans called the Scythians "The Orignial Ones". They were the very same people, our long track out of India.

[Imperivm_Evropa]

Can any of you recommend somewhat up-to-date books on thrace or scythia? Or even some older ones, I'm just interested in newer books because of the recent excavations of the last few years.

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Fine photos of gold Scythian ornaments here-

http://www.iranchamber.com/history/articles/ethnic_of_sakas.php

http://www.grifterrec.com/coins/indoscythian/i_isc_s74-2_o.jpg

http://www.turanianhorse.org/chert.jpg
http://www.turanianhorse.org/scythians.html

http://www.silk-road.com/images/scythian.jpg
http://www.silk-road.com/artl/scythian.shtml

http://imagedb.coinarchives.com/img/cng/067/enlarged/671034.jpg

http://www.tol.cz/look/TOL/article.tpl?IdLanguage=1&IdPublication=4&NrIssue=139&NrSection=3&NrArticle=15210
THE BLACK EARTH’S BOUNTY

“Black archeology,” as unofficial digs are referred to, is so common partly because Ukraine’s famously rich “black earth,” once known as the “bread basket of the Soviet Union,” is also rich in historical treasures. Perhaps the most famous find came in 1971 when a Ukrainian archeologist literally stepped on a gold pectoral, a finely-wrought semi-circular gold breastplate depicting Scythians at work, their herd animals and mythical beasts such as gryphons. Herders and war-like, the Scythians’ war with the Persian king Darius is described by the Greek historian Herodotus, but they came to real prominence in the fourth century BC after they moved from the Near East to the territory of modern Ukraine, where they built a mighty kingdom.

There is a ready market for what emerges from the ground; indeed, unofficial estimates put the value of the “black archeology” market at hundreds of millions of dollars per year. Yushchenko’s private passion for the past is, it seems, shared by many of Ukraine’s new rich. They have proved ready and willing to pay good money to decorate dachas and even local restaurants with archeological rarities, and the number of buyers has grown thanks to Ukraine’s economic recovery over the past five years.

Many of the unsanctioned digs are headed by so-called field commanders, writes the Institute of Archeology’s magazine: "overly independent archeologists who conduct huge excavations and sometimes even trade in, so to speak, shreds of our fatherland (specifically, its history).” Most of the official archeologists who moonlight in this way, the magazine claims, have “gone into business" or politics.

Pillaging has become so widespread it even acquired its own public face. Exhibits of Ukraine’s treasure trove of archeological finds are rarely organized by government institutes, but they are – in increasing numbers – being organized by private collectors.

Official archeologists can only look on in envy. The Institute of Archeology’s Mykhailo Videjko said of one exhibition in 2004 of ceramic models of shrines that “there is nothing like this in the National Museum of History nor [the National Museum] of Archeology. These objects completely change our view of the quality of architecture during the era when they were created, namely 3700 BC, or almost 6,000 years ago.”

The entrepreneur who organized that event, Serhiy Platonov, has held a number of public exhibitions of his private collection of objects, some of them thousands of years old.

Some of his artifacts may eventually find their way into the public domain. Platonov claims to have already donated 1,315 objects in his collection to the state (how many remain in his possession he does not say), though he depicts the state as an ungrateful recipient: his objects are apparently still languishing in their packaging.

Platonov’s donation is a rarity – and his call for black-market auctions to be legalized hardly indicates a guilty conscience at the impact that private collectors are having.

Even if some artifacts do eventually make it back into the public realm, few will be of much value to archeologists. From an archeologist’s point of view, most of the objects preserved in private collections have lost their primary archeological value: it is impossible to say where they were found, much less in what position relating to other objects, at what depth and so forth.

Then there are the objects that are ruined. Objects whose black-market value is lower – such as human remains – are usually destroyed. Gold and other precious metals are often melted down.

The nature of the market encourages historical losses on a large scale. Profits are high, and the barriers to entry are low. The literal barriers to entry – to the sites themselves – are also minimal. Since Ukraine’s historical sites are well-known, anyone with a shovel can potentially search for finds with little chance of being caught. One of the largest and best-known sites in southern Ukraine, for instance – a 42-hectare site near Kherson, where Greek settlers built a colony in the 4th century BC – is guarded by just two militiamen. Those willing to use more than a shovel will find that the gold, silver and other objects uncovered by a good-quality metal detector – at $800, a hefty sum for ordinary Ukrainians – swiftly pays back the investment. This ensures that the low end of the “black archeology” market is very active. In the meantime, uncovered bones are tossed aside, sites trampled on, and excavations left to the mercy of the elements.Scythian vessel with scenes of everyday life of the Scythians. Gold, from the early 4th century B.C.

Found at Kul' Oba near Kerch on the Crimean Peninsula, Ukraine. From the collection of the Hermitage.
http://studentorgs.utexas.edu/husa/origins/szkitahist/scythianvessel.html
http://studentorgs.utexas.edu/husa/origins/szkitahist/scythianvessel.gif

http://www.imh.org/imh/jpg/sythian.jpg
http://www.imh.org/imh/kyhpl1b.html
http://www.imh.org/imh/jpg/sythian.jpg

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http://www.wumag.kiev.ua/wumag_old/archiv/1_98/pectoral.htm

http://www.wumag.kiev.ua/wumag_old/archiv/1_98/IMG1_98/39-2.jpg

Two long-haired bearded men, naked to the waist, wearing typically Scythian trousers and boots, one of them with a headband around his head, are doing something which can be interpreted as mending or making a short sheepskin coat. But other interpretations suggest that it is indeed the Golden Fleece that they have in their hands, the Golden Fleece that figures so prominently in the ancient Greek mythology. The creator of the Pectoral was so amazingly careful in portraying the living creatures and inanimate objects that he has not only put two quivers (one of them is actually hanging above the fleece) with bows inside, close to the two Scythians but also adorned the quivers with decorativedesigns!
On both sides of these two amazing figures we see two horses portrayed in a stunningly realistic manner.One of the horses is a mare suckling an evidently new-born foal, still wobbly on its unsure legs.
http://www.wumag.kiev.ua/wumag_old/archiv/1_98/IMG1_98/42-1.jpg

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http://www.bcgalleries.com.au/

Eat 'em up kidz!

[Bardamu]

The first known representation of "muh dick".

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http://www.rubylane.com/shops/therhinestonebaba/item/Necklace4187

Way to a woman's heart.

[uppinatta]

http://www.authenticafrica.com/crocgolweig.html

African gold swastika.

http://store1.yimg.com/I/art98_1746_40894879

I bet that Nubian below thought up da swasta.

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At your sourcelink:
Each gold weight is over fifty years old.
Authentication papers are included with each purchase, enjoy!

...Each goldweight was purchased in 1979 and were (sic) at least 20 years old at that time.

[uppinatta]

At your sourcelink:

Duh. That wasn't the point. Just trying to make a funny!

[betterfuture]

the ashkenazi jews of northern and eastern europe offer a fascinating example of a thoroughly mixed background. the area now the ukraine and southeastern european russia was Scythia (ashkenaz in hebrew). the Scythians (an iranic group) were conquered by the sarmatians (another iranic people represented by the ossets today). the mixture of Scythians and sarmatians were known as alans at the time they were conquered by the huns (a yeneseian people) and became a major component of attila's army.
arthur koestler gives details of this process in khazars, the thirteenth tribe. in trying to be acceptable to their austrian and prussian rulers, the jews claimed that ashkenaz was hebrew for germany and that they were of german origin. many still believe this and have lost touch with their iranic and turkic heritage. many new peoples have lost their history, sometimes replacing it with a more acceptable myth.
http://www.darkfiber.com/blackirish/melungeons.htmllooks like white ashkenazi jews that white albinos turned white in the past claimed Scythia and germany.
white albinos are not jewi$h except for ashkenazi ones
ashkenaz hebrew for Scythia??
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ashkenaz hebrew for germany??
joo+joo is not adding up to two
yet historical records would not add up with a white albino race missing from them

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Duh. That wasn't the point. Just trying to make a funny!Yeah, well, your petrified dinosaur crap juxtaposed with exqusite White Scythian art isn't funny either, and specifically to the point-- it's way off topic. Don't be surprised if you find your prized shit gone from this thread, J.P..

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Yeah, well, your petrified dinosaur crap juxtaposed with exqusite White Scythian art isn't funny either, and specifically to the point-- it's way off topic. Don't be surprised if you find your prized shit gone from this thread, J.P..

You're way too hostile, and way too suspicious.

[Chain]

The first link you put into this thread had absolutely NO details about Scythians. Then there was the phallic art-- also non-Scythian, and then the dinosaur shit, and then the nigger swastika that was fifty years old.

You'd better stay on topic in serious White cultural visual threads, or you'll be on holiday.

I'd say, based on your distracting, and non-subject posts into this thread that you are the hostile one.

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I picked up a book entitled, "From the Lands of the Scythians" for a couple bucks used somewhere that features many of the intricate gold-working that they created.
Truly amazing stuff.