Post pictures of your garden

[Sean Martin]

Here is a picture of one of mine. I edited a car out of the pic and each row is about 150 feet long. There are 15 rows in the farthest garden. I have it seperated into two gardens. There are three more to work. And to think I want to move away and leave all of that.

Garden
http://tinypic.com/5cybti

[Kind Lampshade Maker]

Here is a picture of one of mine. I edited a car out of the pic
Looks like you edited out the plants too

[Sean Martin]

Half of it isn’t planted as you don’t plant tobacco for another couple weeks. The part on the far side is planted but hasn’t been in the ground long enough to start growing. If you look the corn is about 2 inches high right now.

Being that it is long and a couple acres altogether (you can’t see about 40% of it) it is difficult to see the corn, beans and potatoes unless you are up close. The planted stuff is about 300-400 feet away from where I was standing when I took the pic.

We had a very late planting season here. I went out about 4 am this morning and it was something like 40 degrees.

I could post pics of my other three gardens but I couldn’t edit enough landmarks that show where my front door is. Something that creeps me out is with 35 views you are the first one to reply. I wonder if it is just people searching for a landmark or clue to find the D.O.C? If anyone wants to know all they have to do is ask. :rolleyes:

Either that or I am just being paranoid and people are actually interested in farming.

Looks like you edited out the plants too

[Kind Lampshade Maker]

....I could post pics of my other three gardens but I couldn’t edit enough landmarks that show where my front door is....
Have you ever considered editing those landmarks by using a tow-truck?

[Gott]

That is a very impressive photograph of the real thing - a farm - not a suburban garden. Do you use a tractor to prepare the ground each spring? If so, what attachments do you recommend?

I only have a bit over 5 acres in the northeast and am buying a 34 HP diesel tractor in order to make a couple of gardens (40 x 40 and 65 x 80, both fenced) into a couple of acres of productive ground (I hope). The critter problem - mammal, insect and if the economy continues to tank, soon niggers and spics) is significant here and any advice will be appreciated.

Also, suggestions on which tractor attachments are really useful will be gratefully accepted. Tractors sure cost a lot and so do the attachments.

Finally, with all that growing area, you must realize an enormous amount of produce. Do you sell some of it and, how do you store the surplus over the winter?



Up here this is the coldest May in history. No sun (well, hardly any) lots of rain and very cold. I have a wood fire going today and it's almost June. This is the latest for me not having tomatoes, peppers, eggplant and corn in the ground. So far the cabbage stuff and the lettuce, etc. are doing pretty well though I bet they'd like some sun. Rot will set in soon if the weather doesn't start cooperating.

[Kind Lampshade Maker]

...Do you use a tractor to prepare the ground each spring? If so, what attachments do you recommend?
You could use a Horse or a Negroe, but tractors don't suffer from illnesses and independant thinking. A simple plow will do for tilling the soil in late autumn and/or early spring. This is important for exposing your soil to oxygen and to put your weeds to death through entombment :eek:

I only have a bit over 5 acres in the northeast and am buying a 34 HP diesel tractor in order to make a couple of gardens (40 x 40 and 65 x 80, both fenced) into a couple of acres of productive ground (I hope).
34 HP is plenty, for a tractor, because they are geared down enough
The critter problem - mammal, insect and if the economy continues to tank, soon niggers and spics) is significant here and any advice will be appreciated.
If your garden is placed near a wooded area, as is Sean(doc)Martin's, the predatory foxes and even house cats will handle the mice and rats. Birds of prey are ideal for controlling them, along with the larger rodents. Porcupines feed on snails and insects can be successfully eradicated, as long as you don't attempt to destroy all insects through reckless pesticide use.
The 2 legged pests can be deterred, by avoiding the planting of watermelons & beans and by attaching chastity belts onto your livestock

Finally, with all that growing area, you must realize an enormous amount of produce. Do you sell some of it and, how do you store the surplus over the winter?
Try not to plant too much of a certain crop, if you're not sure you could sell the excess. Gourmet potatoes (use the VNNF search engine) could be successfully stored over winter, if you stack them properly and in the abscence of light

[Gott]

Tractors and horses smell great compared to darkies, so I'll stick to the tractor. Just in case I change my mind though, do you know of any good slave markets and what's the going price for a plow-ready coon?

Can't grow watermelons anyway - they have never produced for me as the season is too short and not hot enough, and I must just not have the knack. I do grow beans though and will watch out thanks to your kindly warning and also ck. out the availability of chastity belts at the local feed store. As the only domestic animals I have so far are two dogs and five (or is it six?) cats, I think I'm safe at this point. My big dog, a very Aryan yellow Lab, doesn't like niggers anyway and eveybody knows that coons are as afraid of dogs as they are of water.

I can't really have a below ground root cellar as most of my land has a high water table (or is ledge), but I'm thinking of trying to build something above ground, and maybe a ice house too, as I have a small seasonal pond that would provide the ice.

Thanks for the very amusing but also useful reply.

[Kievsky]

It really is awful. I hope the tomatoes don't die.

Because a lot of my land still needs to be cleared, yet I am stockpiling horse manure "while the getting is good" so to speak, I am just dumping huge piles of horse manure in any clear place. Then inevitably, I throw squash and cucumbers and melon seeds in it, because my slaughterhouse friends told me that cucurbits can grow fine in fresh horse manure. So far, this is proving true -- all the cucurbits are coming up just fine right out of hot horse manure.

Over the winter the horses were eating hay, and the manure was pretty dry and not too hot. Now that the horses are eating fresh grass, it's much moister and hotter.

I am afraid of a day coming when, for whatever reason, I won't be able to get horse manure anymore, or anything else except maybe humanure, so I am stockpiling it desperately.

I planted about 100 cloves of garlic last fall, but only 23 of them came up. Bummer. But those 23 are very robust. they are Siberian hardneck. Also got about 200 onion sets coming up. I made a 3 foot high raised bed out of logs wired together and held together by fence posts. It's real ugly ands rough, but it sure works great. Half of it is in covered in lush turnip growth, and some carrots and cukes and beets scattered about. There was a pile of dirt and I dumped a truckload of horse manure on it, and planted it up in squash, and now the squash seedlings are up.

I'm not a real neat gardener, and it drives the wife nuts. I come home with a truckload of manure, dump it on a pile of leaves, and plant. I might put some leaf compost on top of the pile if I want to plant something besides cucurbits. But the upside of this is I have zillions of "garden piles" all over my property. The goal is high yields, not perfect aesthetics.

Oh, I forgot to mention. Last night I planted peanuts and corn on top of my main "mountain range" of horse manure. I had put some leaf compost on top of it. Grass grows fine out of horse manure, and corn is just grass, so we'll see. As for the peanuts, we'll see about that too. They are legumes, and I know my beans are doing just fine in horse manure.

Rob

[Sean Martin]

The cars run fine I just let someone park them there. The other landmarks are permanent fixtures that serve a purpose but I don’t want to give to much information. Besides I could move anything I wanted with my tractor.

I looked today and all the plants are 6-10 inches tall now.
Have you ever considered editing those landmarks by using a tow-truck?

That is a very impressive photograph of the real thing - a farm - not a suburban garden. Do you use a tractor to prepare the ground each spring? If so, what attachments do you recommend?
Thank you, next year I am hoping to build a green house and have about 10 times that much land in garden.

I use a classic tractor with a plow and a disc. It is not very big, I have a friend that farms 10 acres every year with a 19 H.P tractor. Mine is a 4 cylinder I am not sure about the H.P. Tractors are heavy and as KLM mentioned geared very low. Also you need a drag that could be anything from a set of old bed springs to a railroad crosstie. I used bedsprings on mine. I have a cross tie I am thinking of attaching to my disc so I can drag the ground and disc it at the same time. Here is how I prepare my land.
Plow it to turn the ground over.
Disc it to cut up all the weeds and smooth all the ruts and humps and cut the ground up
Drag it to smooth everything out
If all this is done properly you should sink up about 6 inches when you walk on the ground.
Then I use a smaller tractor with a small plow on it to plow the fields. I could use the big tractor but the reason I use a smaller one is so we can have two people working at once.


I only have a bit over 5 acres in the northeast and am buying a 34 HP diesel tractor in order to make a couple of gardens (40 x 40 and 65 x 80, both fenced) into a couple of acres of productive ground (I hope). The critter problem - mammal, insect and if the economy continues to tank, soon niggers and spics) is significant here and any advice will be appreciated.
That is plenty. I wouldn’t buy a tractor this year. The Government has really cracked down on farmers this year and next year tractors should be going for half price. Wait a year and buy used. A 34 H.P should be enough to plow a hundred acres or so. My 4-cyl plowed about 50 or more last year.

I would recommend buying a used tractor, perhaps a classic like a farm all because they are easy to repair if you have any basic mechanical knowledge and can use chevy parts. You can get one of these in your area with attachments for about $1,800. They are ideal in the event of a crash. Low maintenance and built to last. I know a lot of people that have 60-year-old tractors that drive them everyday.

The attachments you need first are a plow, disc and a drag. Next you need a bush hog, not every tractor can support them make sure yours does. This is handy when to much over grow comes on your land. You can’t cut hay with a bush hog you need a sickle mower for that. Then for work around the house you may want a small wagon and a lift (an attachment that fits on the back of your tractor that hauls a couple wheelbarrows). If you get a large tractor You may want a post hole digger and a rear blade for moving dirt.

If you buy used a good ford tractor and all the attachments would cost you what a new tractor only would cost. Of course you may want an enclosed cab with air conditioning in that case buy new.

Also, suggestions on which tractor attachments are really useful will be gratefully accepted. Tractors sure cost a lot and so do the attachments.
Be sure you get a 3-point hitch, as a two point is nearly impossible to find attachments for. If you decide to buy a tractor with a two point make sure all the attachments come with it.

Also when buying plows make sure to get the one that suits your needs. You can get a shovel plow, turn plow, double plow or multiple plows. I have a double shovel plow. It plows one row at a time. It is all you need for anything below 20 acres.

Finally, with all that growing area, you must realize an enormous amount of produce. Do you sell some of it and, how do you store the surplus over the winter?
I can food. I have had people tell me I make the best-canned pickle beans ever (although I detest them I have made them for others). Two people are able to can enough food to last all winter in 1-2 days. They are opening a farmers market here and I am thinking about hitting that this year or next. I have a full sized pickup truck that is perfect for hauling corn, watermelons and things like that. However I recommend sitting beside the road with a huge sign. In a market other people with spic labor will cut your throat on the sales even though your product may be superior. Last year they brought spic picked beans from Georgia and they sold them for $5.00/bushel. You can’t raise or pick them here for that. They were able to raise, pick and ship them all the way here for that price. You can’t compete with that. Actually I would recommend buying a deal like that and reselling it at double the price.

As always pay your taxes on things sold, believe me I know some people that got audited over that and they were ruined. You never know when an IRS agent may show up and ask for your tax number. However a tax number is handy anyway because there are a lot of things you won’t have to pay tax on when buying because you will be paying tax on the resale. So it saves you hassle and some money in the long run.

Up here this is the coldest May in history. No sun (well, hardly any) lots of rain and very cold. I have a wood fire going today and it's almost June. This is the latest for me not having tomatoes, peppers, eggplant and corn in the ground. So far the cabbage stuff and the lettuce, etc. are doing pretty well though I bet they'd like some sun. Rot will set in soon if the weather doesn't start cooperating.
I hear you. It is 40 degrees during the night here. Usually it is 80 degrees at this time. It has rained and been difficult getting things done. The ground has to be dry before you can plow it or work it.

The season for putting some things in the ground is not even begun yet. I still have almost 400 pepper plants that won’t be ready for a couple weeks. I have several thousand plants that will be ready sometime next month but that is another thread coming soon.

[Kind Lampshade Maker]

....Thank you, next year I am hoping to build a green house and have about 10 times that much land in garden...
That would be good advice for Gott, since he wishes to grow tomatoes. My ex-father-in-law in Poland built a glass greenhouse with heating to assure year round temperature control. He would grow cucumbers in there too, under warm moist conditions. What's uncomfortably muggy for us is, tomatoes and cucumbers thrive, under such conditions.
Poland is so far inland, that cold winters and hot summers are the norm there
....I use a classic tractor with a plow and a disc. It is not very big, I have a friend that farms 10 acres every year with a 19 H.P tractor
Classic tractors are simple and reliable. Here, they're collectors' items. for modest plots of land, they suffice. If your into conglomerate farming, a modern air-conditioned tractor inclusive of an entertainment center would make the job more comfortable
....The Government has really cracked down on farmers this year and next year tractors should be going for half price.
The multi-nationals and banks with government help have been doing this for several years, in the mid-west. You're probably getting the ripple effect, in your area. This may be good news in bad news, in that people will return to small farming, thus establishing small, independant farmers conglomerates
....As always pay your taxes on things sold, believe me I know some people that got audited over that and they were ruined. You never know when an IRS agent may show up.
They're likely to show up where an immigration agent dare not tread :mad:
...I am afraid of a day coming when, for whatever reason, I won't be able to get horse manure anymore, or anything else except maybe humanure, so I am stockpiling it desperately..
Which variety of manure are you desparately stockpiling?
...I'm not a real neat gardener, and it drives the wife nuts... Grass grows fine out of horse manure, and corn is just grass...
Yeah, my ol'lady complains too. Not only because it's hard work. She'd rather that we hold hands in front of the Talmudvision or know where I am at all times. But, I don't hear complaints when fruits of the harvest gets set on the table.
You could grow mushrooms in horse manure, during the off season

[Sean Martin]

An accessory that everyone needs for their tractor is a 50 cal ammo can welded under the seat or some convenient place. Everyone that I know that owns a tractor has one welded somewhere one their machine. They are water proof and very handy. I keep chains and hooks in mine. These are useful when you are out pulling something or need to hitch on to something. They are also useful for keeping tools in for on the spot repairs or hooking attachments or whatever up to your tractor.

Ever how you do it, a good tractor needs a metal toolbox with a lid somewhere.

[Kind Lampshade Maker]

An accessory that everyone needs for their tractor is a 50 cal ammo can welded under the seat or some convenient place. Everyone that I know that owns a tractor has one welded somewhere one their machine. They are water proof and very handy. I keep chains and hooks in mine. These are useful when you are out pulling something or need to hitch on to something. They are also useful for keeping tools in for on the spot repairs or hooking attachments or whatever up to your tractor.

Ever how you do it, a good tractor needs a metal toolbox with a lid somewhere.
What about the armor plating and bullett-proof glass?
What are those hooks & chains for? A portable lyncher? And, what's in that tool box :eek:?

[Sean Martin]

That depends on the crop you put in the ground.
What about the armor plating and bullett-proof glass?

In case you need to hook onto a drag or pull stumps out of the ground or a number of uses. When I plowed the field in the picture I didn’t have a chain to hook to the drag and had to borrow one. The one I borrowed was so light it broke and had to be repaired on the spot (hence the tools). So it pays to have a good sturdy chain.
What are those hooks & chains for?

You lynch with rope, I am not sure how or why a tractor would be used in such an action. It is farming season KLM it is time to put the Turner Diaries down no matter how entertaining and get serious about growing a bumper crop.

Besides if there is a lamppost where you are farming I think you are going to have problems requiring bullet proof glass.
A portable lyncher?

Chain, bolts, nuts, screwdriver, wrenches, a good strong wire cutter, pocketknife and whatever else you think you may need. You especially need a wire cutter; it is very common to be plowing in a field only to find your plow firmly tangled up in the buried remains of a long forgotten fence.
And, what's in that tool box :eek:?

[Antiochus Epiphanes]

It really is awful. I hope the tomatoes don't die.

Because a lot of my land still needs to be cleared, yet I am stockpiling horse manure "while the getting is good" so to speak, I am just dumping huge piles of horse manure in any clear place. Then inevitably, I throw squash and cucumbers and melon seeds in it, because my slaughterhouse friends told me that cucurbits can grow fine in fresh horse manure. So far, this is proving true -- all the cucurbits are coming up just fine right out of hot horse manure.

Over the winter the horses were eating hay, and the manure was pretty dry and not too hot. Now that the horses are eating fresh grass, it's much moister and hotter.

I am afraid of a day coming when, for whatever reason, I won't be able to get horse manure anymore, or anything else except maybe humanure, so I am stockpiling it desperately.

I planted about 100 cloves of garlic last fall, but only 23 of them came up. Bummer. But those 23 are very robust. they are Siberian hardneck. Also got about 200 onion sets coming up. I made a 3 foot high raised bed out of logs wired together and held together by fence posts. It's real ugly ands rough, but it sure works great. Half of it is in covered in lush turnip growth, and some carrots and cukes and beets scattered about. There was a pile of dirt and I dumped a truckload of horse manure on it, and planted it up in squash, and now the squash seedlings are up.

I'm not a real neat gardener, and it drives the wife nuts. I come home with a truckload of manure, dump it on a pile of leaves, and plant. I might put some leaf compost on top of the pile if I want to plant something besides cucurbits. But the upside of this is I have zillions of "garden piles" all over my property. The goal is high yields, not perfect aesthetics.

Oh, I forgot to mention. Last night I planted peanuts and corn on top of my main "mountain range" of horse manure. I had put some leaf compost on top of it. Grass grows fine out of horse manure, and corn is just grass, so we'll see. As for the peanuts, we'll see about that too. They are legumes, and I know my beans are doing just fine in horse manure.

Rob

Hey, thanks for the great update. Anywhere you have rich people you have horses.

[Kind Lampshade Maker]

That depends on the crop you put in the ground.

I guess you mean the type of crop which isn't expected to grow back out of the ground again
In case you need to hook onto a drag or pull stumps out of the ground or a number of uses. When I plowed the field in the picture I didn’t have a chain to hook to the drag and had to borrow one. The one I borrowed was so light it broke and had to be repaired on the spot (hence the tools). So it pays to have a good sturdy chain.
Well, I guess you could quarter someone, when you fetch 3 more equally equipped tractors and willing drivers

[Sean Martin]

Someone offered to give my dad 5 horses and he said he wouldn't feed them for them. They are to plentiful here and you can't give them away.

Hey, thanks for the great update. Anywhere you have rich people you have horses.

I don't know what you mean.
I guess you mean the type of crop which isn't expected to grow back out of the ground again

Why would I want to do that? I don't like the line of thought you have here, I don't do anything against the law and don't intend to. The end.
Well, I guess you could quarter someone, when you fetch 3 more equally equipped tractors and willing drivers

[Kind Lampshade Maker]

...I don't know what you mean...
Why would I want to do that? I don't like the line of thought you have here, I don't do anything against the law and don't intend to. The end.
Uh, oh... I just snapped out of some halucination starring in some Midieval Russian flashback. Back then, they'd quarter the likes of "50 Cent". Perfectly legal, at that

[Mike Mazzone of Palatine]

I've already got some tasty lettuce growing in the garden.

http://tinypic.com/5kn8mt

The strawberry plants are just starting to bear fruit, but they haven't turned red yet.

http://tinypic.com/5kn8xs

[Mike Mazzone of Palatine]

Some more strawberry pics.

http://tinypic.com/5kn90j

http://tinypic.com/5kn921

[Sean Martin]

Great looking berries PC. I had to put mine out late this year due to frost and freezing weather.

[Mike Mazzone of Palatine]

This is the third year for the strawberries in the patch. The patch has gotten bigger since I dig up holes and plant the runoff vines in the ground for the next year.

There will be a lot more pictures of the rest of my garden once the fruit becomes visible. I took a picture of a cauliflower plant that has a tiny bit of the white flowering part growing, but it's barely visible from the picture. I'll wait a bit longer so I can get a good pic to post.

[Alex Linder]

Those strawberries look good. I'll try to get some digital photos of mine.

[Kind Lampshade Maker]

Here’s the north side of my garden. I left a border of unmowed grass, so that the seeds can grow and fall on the bald spots. More pics to be uploaded later today. Pics taken on May 25th. Note how tall my potato plants are already. The risk of sowing before the danger of frost period ended sure payed off
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/Tuerkenjaeger/Garten.jpg

[Kind Lampshade Maker]

Here's the west side. Yo!
A couple Gooseberry bushes are marked in white. These are yet my all time favorite fruit.
The Cardoons are marked in yellow. Others are in the pic, but are difficult to see. These have survived the winter and/or have sprouted from seeds left by last year's crop
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/Tuerkenjaeger/Garten2.jpg

[Kind Lampshade Maker]

Here’s the south east corner. The double-walled compost box is marked in yellow. It’s actually a compost box within a newer model box. The inner box just fits into the outer. During times of high winds, the lids have taken flight. That’s why I’ve got those washmachine counterweights holding down the lids.
The shack is marked in white. It’s falling apart, as if to be located in Detroyt.
The purple arrow shows 1 of 3 gardens which will befall my wrath :mad:, as hobby garden trasher. The person who has that garden, in the adjacent plot, is a despicable, back baiting Lemming who’ll wish I was never born.
To the right, an alcoholic has that garden. They’re nice people. But lately, the wife does all the work, while he sleeps his buzz off. They’re not that young anymore. So, little gets done there. That’s where all the voles enter my garden.
Oh, yeah. See that tube on the table? That's a vole trap, using a door on each side which only opens going in
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/Tuerkenjaeger/Garten3.jpg

[Kind Lampshade Maker]

Shown here is the diabolical work of the 4 legged variety of Vole working over the garden on the south east side, as the 2 legged variety performs something similar in south east London.
The Mexican Roulette sized rock is used to cover the tunneling, after insertion of calcium chloride chunks which produce acetylene gas, upon exposure to oxygen. Voles hate that smell. I like the fragrance, though. Who knows what hard-up Muds might be inserting into such holes. They do a good enough job of fucking Mammie Earth, as it is.
Above left, is a photo within a photo of some smoke powder mix drying out on my outer window ledge. Hopefully a crow doesn’t knock it over. A sparrow got its prints in there already. The surface was otherwise smooth, until I patted it to force the moisture to the surface. The last time I posted the recipe for this, our VNNF thread Gopher made off with the entire thread. I might chance posting it again, later
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/Tuerkenjaeger/smokepowder.jpg

[Alex Linder]

Here's a couple of mine. One long shot of garden, then closeup of strawberries.

[Alex Linder]

I replanted another dozen potatoes after only 4 of 66 came up thanks to excessive rain. The whole right half should be full of healthy plants at this point.

The strawberries are at the far end of the garden, fanning out. The leafy stuff is rutebaga, which comes up perennially. As do the onions. And the aspargus. In the foreground I have a couple thin rows of melons and carrots. And then in background, left, I have six tomato plants. Rabbits have mortally wounded one of them, and badly damaged another, despite my clever pie-plate-tied-to-stick routine. D'oh! It sucks when you can't bring more to the table than the wily rabbit.

[Kind Lampshade Maker]

I replanted another dozen potatoes after only 4 of 66 came up thanks to excessive rain. The whole right half should be full of healthy plants at this point..
When did you plant those potatoes?
If it wasn't that long ago, the rest of the potatoes might show up.
We had more than average rain here also, but I planted earlier than advised and lost a couple to rot. Most popped up, though. The plants are larger where the soil was better. Fertilizing potatoes, from the start, makes a huge difference

Rabbits have mortally wounded one of them, and badly damaged another, despite my clever pie-plate-tied-to-stick routine. D'oh!...
Why not erect a short fence around your garden?

It sucks when you can't bring more to the table than the wily rabbit!...
It sucks when you have to bring Voles & Gophers to the table, instead of an occasional rabbit

[Kind Lampshade Maker]

The south east end of my garden with potato plants marked in yellow and stones to cover Vole tunnels marked in blue.
The lawnmower is an Austrian-made “AL-KO” (what a co-incidence) front drive model with an Italian-under licence-made “Tecumseh” engine which I got a good deal 2nd hand for 40€ in France. It was in good shape only needing routine maintenance: blade-sharpening, oil change, air filter cleansing & oiling and spark plug regapping. It’s made out of thick sheet metal, to resist damage from hurled stones, thus quite heavy compared to others on the market. It has difficulty mowing lawns which are grown in too soft a soil, often tearing out patches of sod, through the mower’s sinking into the soil as if into quicksand. I’ve seen stone damage on aluminum- and plastic housed mowers. Mine’s a tank. I’m considering painting it Wehrmacht green with the accompanying black cross. That should scare my neighbors and deter theft. Hmmm….a machine gun turret welded onto the 2mm thick housing would make it look businesslike.
Left of the mower is a heap of mowed composting grass & weeds which is waiting for entry into the compost box, once it has been emptied of finished compost.
I threw poison ivy into that tub, between the mower and the camera. Once rain water enters and fills the tub, the soup can be used as a sort of natural insecticide-fertilizer mix, supposedly helpful in deterring plant lice.
To the right of the mower is the berry orchard which was erected before we took over the garden. I planted potatoes in there to break up the soil, but they never showed up. The voles started in there, because they prefer tunneling between roots.
Well, they don't make them like they used to: http://www.mowers-online.co.uk/itm00976.htm


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/Tuerkenjaeger/Garten4.jpg

[Alex Linder]

When did you plant those potatoes?
If it wasn't that long ago, the rest of the potatoes might show up.
We had more than average rain here also, but I planted earlier than advised and lost a couple to rot. Most popped up, though. The plants are larger where the soil was better. Fertilizing potatoes, from the start, makes a huge difference


I planted them long enough ago that they'd be up now. Four of them are. This same thing happened three years ago. There was too much water, and it washes them out. Also, I planted with long eye-spouts on, and they're supposed to be broken off.


Why not erect a short fence around your garden?


Too much effort. I don't care that much, and I don't visit the garden daily. I'll get more tomatoes than I need in any case. And the birds are the ones that get the strawberries.


It sucks when you have to bring Voles & Gophers to the table, instead of an occasional rabbit

You must concoct a nice Volenpfeffer.

[Kind Lampshade Maker]

...There was too much water, and it washes them out.
How deep do you plant them?
...Also, I planted with long eye-spouts on, and they're supposed to be broken off.
Mine grew long eye-sprouts which I left them above ground. They turned into plants, afterwards. Others didn't grow long sprouts, but found their way up, all the same
...You must concoct a nice Volenpfeffer.
For the necrowave oven, if I can trap them live

[Kind Lampshade Maker]

Marked in yellow is the shack of another neighboor who’s garden is going to get trashed severely.
The Northern border of my garden is at the bottom of the photo. The garden between mine and that filthy piece of trash, marked in yellow, is kept up. I haven’t yet had any Vole invasions from there. I haven’t been in the garden for over a week now. So, I hope things haven’t worsened there since then
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/Tuerkenjaeger/Garten5.jpg

[Kind Lampshade Maker]

Marked in yellow shows the patch of which behind the line to the fence, I planted potatoes and garlic. You are viewing the photo from the west to east
A- 1 of 2 apple trees of which the apples ripen sooner and are not so sour as that from the 2nd tree. I made about 10 liters of apple wine from that 2nd tree (not shown), a few years ago
B- (marked in blue A young cherry tree
C- A compost pile not yet hacked up for entry in the compost box. That’s quite a heap of weeds and non-meat kitchen refuse
D- A weed patch mowed down to size. I will plant Radicchios which should be planted between early June and late July
I mowed a lawn for somebody and kept the grass for the compost box. I’ve got this bicycle trailer that’s supposed to seat 2 small children. I converted it to use heavy duty wheels, heavier springs and shock absorbers from a wash machine. Now I can carry lots of weight for the garden. I transported many boulders, much larger than Mexican-hating roulette stones, to build a Norwegian-styled foundation-ratwall for the new shack to replace the old, run down one, way in the back of the photo
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/Tuerkenjaeger/Garten6.jpg

[Alex Linder]

How deep do you plant them?

4-5"


Mine grew long eye-sprouts which I left them above ground. They turned into plants, afterwards. Others didn't grow long sprouts, but found their way up, all the same

It would have been an interesting test if it hadn't rained so much. I kept the 4-5" of dirt pretty light, and when the rain came, they turned into sinkholes.

Yesterday I collected about ten good strawberries, with many more on the verge. Did some mowing, really hot for the first time this year.

[Sean Martin]

Do you hill your potatoes? We finished plowing ours yesterday. Also you can put heavy black plastic over your potatoes this will prevent them from being destroyed by rain and keep moisture in them so they don’t need watering.

I am going to take an updated picture of my garden in a couple days an show you what I mean.



It would have been an interesting test if it hadn't rained so much. I kept the 4-5" of dirt pretty light, and when the rain came, they turned into sinkholes.

[Alex Linder]

Do you hill your potatoes? We finished plowing ours yesterday. Also you can put heavy black plastic over your potatoes this will prevent them from being destroyed by rain and keep moisture in them so they don’t need watering.

Yes, I hill them up very high. I haven't had problem with rain once they're up. The yields have been good.


I am going to take an updated picture of my garden in a couple days an show you what I mean.

Yeah, I'll do mine when I get to that point. last year they were awesome, but this year, I only have 4 and 12-16 pending.

[Antiochus Epiphanes]

Wow, I am really impressed. I am only a beginning Hate Gardener and not a stud like you agriculturalists. When will Kievsky get a digital camera and show us his manure heaps?

[Kind Lampshade Maker]

Wow, I am really impressed. I am only a beginning Hate Gardener and not a stud like you agriculturalists...
Sir, one doesn't start out as a Hate Gardner. It took me a while before I started hating mine
4-5"...It would have been an interesting test if it hadn't rained so much. I kept the 4-5" of dirt pretty light, and when the rain came, they turned into sinkholes...
That's about the depth I planted mine, last year. The voles like tunneling at that depth. I planted them a couple inches deeper, this year.
Your potatoes must have been pretty dry, if they float. I'll have to try floating some, as an experiment

[Kind Lampshade Maker]

A-The lawnmower featured here: http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=12249&page=3&pp=10, which I annexed from the owner, after an argument
B-A chaff-cutter or motorized hacker, if you like, made from a spare moped engine. The clutch housing was bent into a cage of blades, each of which were sharpened to an edge. It’s outrageous looking, but at least it’s made from German moving parts. something you can’t buy anymore. At least I won’t have to worry about dependability, in which case, my neighboors can laugh all they want, while I enjoy what’s set on the table after a day of watching them try starting their slip-shod machines, all the time cursing
C-The weeds enter here
D-…and exit here
E- A 1 kilogram can of Calcium Chloride chunks to drive away Voles
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/Tuerkenjaeger/shed.jpg

[Antiochus Epiphanes]

Fuck KLM you are one scary mofo.

[Mr. T.H. Outis]

Fuck KLM you are one scary mofo.

Yes. Mulching contraption and a flair for MSPaint.

[ericthered]

Fuck KLM you are one scary mofo.

and that is with a moped. Imagine what he could do with a chainsaw or lawnmower!

[Antiochus Epiphanes]

Yes. Mulching contraption and a flair for MSPaint.

I threatened to ban him if he kept on asking for semtex recipes to use against his moles and voles. Now let's not start that again ok!?

[Antiochus Epiphanes]

Here VNNforum member April Gaede shares her hate garden pics with the NA spinoff crowd. What, April, no mention of VNN's famous gardening subforum? Kevy wouldnt have that. LOL

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=5276

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=4754

[Kind Lampshade Maker]

and that is with a moped. Imagine what he could do with a chainsaw... Harvest the annoying neighboors
...or lawnmower!Cut the offending neighboors' hair:cool:

[Kind Lampshade Maker]

and that is with a moped. Imagine what he could do with a chainsaw...
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/Tuerkenjaeger/dolmettestart2.jpg

[April]

Here VNNforum member April Gaede shares her hate garden pics with the NA spinoff crowd. What, April, no mention of VNN's famous gardening subforum? Kevy wouldnt have that. LOL

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=5276

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=4754

I would post pictures of my garden here that I just took but I am so computer illiterate that I cannot shrink the pictures to fit so that I can upload them.....Trust me, I want to show off my garden to you guys too...lol

Sean,

I make pickled beets too with my old german grandmas recipe from the beets I grew last year in the garden.

Arpil

[Sean Martin]

Here is a pic of one of my smaller gardens. This one is about 120x120 altogether. In the pic you can see, tomatoes, beans, peppers, cabbages, lettuce, radishes and a few other vegetables. There are some fruit trees to the right just out of view.
http://tinypic.com/5x1tg2

Re April

Use http://tinypic.com it is very to use. Best of all it's free. Just upload your picture and it will give you the URL with the image code already attached. Just use the URL with IMG. I think tinypic shrinks your pictures also. If you are using a digital camera just take pics of the lowest quality.

If you scan your pictures use the edit feature to resize them.

[April]

I am saving electric by not using the dryer but will our underwear smell like onions now???


http://tinypic.com/5yxdlu

[April]

My apricots, I am growing them on wires along the fence to save on space

http://tinypic.com/5yxf9i

[April]

artichokes his wife and spends the rest of his life in prison........

http://tinypic.com/5yxfgm

[April]

cherry tomatoes and sunflowers growing behind them.

http://tinypic.com/5yxfmu

[April]

squash in front and beans climbing up a wire in the back.

http://tinypic.com/5yxft0

[Kind Lampshade Maker]

artichokes his wife and spends the rest of his life in prison...That's not your problem. You've got a life of your own.
Artichokes in the steamer or pressure cooker, after shoving a suppository garlic clove in the mittle along with parsley and cooking salt. Pour a generous amount of olive oil over the chokes, cover and pedal to the metal. After 45 minutes of pressure, it's ready to serve

[Kind Lampshade Maker]

I am growing them on wires along the fence to save on space
Why do you want to save space? Are you a space case?

[April]

Why do you want to save space? Are you a space case?

Efficiency.....and more room for the backyard crematorium............

[Mr. T.H. Outis]

squash in front and beans climbing up a wire in the back.

Some good-looking plants you have there. You're a very tidy gardener.

I would post some of my own, but mine by comparison would look pretty mean, and anyway I only specialize in such "weeds" as honeysuckle, spearmint and Syrian rue—nothing really practical unless you like faggish tea and nervous stimulants. My tomatos are coming up, at least, as is a cantaloupe plant.

[Kind Lampshade Maker]

Efficiency.....and more room for the backyard crematorium............
It’s probably illegal, in all 1st World countries, to use this chemical (Sodium Nitrite) to trash your neighboor’s gardens:cool: by dumping this there, so that nothing will ever grow there again unless the entire soil gets replaced.
It only takes 5 grams of this stuff to kill a person. There’s a kilogram, in this container, which weighs approx. 2.2 lbs. This chemical is only 1 atom different, in its molecular make-up, from Sodium Nitrate which isn’t poisonous. Carbon dioxide is also only 1 atom more than deadly carbon monoxide.
Sodium Nitrite is primarily used in processing zinc which might explain why cadmium batteries have the capability of trashing gardens, because cadmium is a waste product derived through zinc processing
Notice that the label states, “Berlin (West). Looks like it’s been sitting on the shelf
for a long while
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/Tuerkenjaeger/sodium.jpg

[Antiochus Epiphanes]

Artichokes in the steamer or pressure cooker, after shoving a suppository garlic clove in the mittle along with parsley and cooking salt. Pour a generous amount of olive oil over the chokes, cover and pedal to the metal. After 45 minutes of pressure, it's ready to serve

Hey that sounds good. I dont have a pressure cooker but need to get one. Important kitchen implement, itz.

[Antiochus Epiphanes]

...........Trust me, I want to show off my garden to you guys too.........

April

Impressive garden.

What was left of my lettuce uneaten, got torn up by slugs or something, and also shriveled by the heat. The mescalun greens went to seed. So I ripped the remainder out of that bed and this weekend I'm going to plant some banana peppers.

My red onion and shallot sets are coming along nicely. My chives have sprouted.

I am going to lay out some more beds in the backyard. WTF do I need grass for anyway? Mowing takes gas which is getting more and more expensive. Why not make the space productive eh?

[April]

That reminds me of a funny story. There was this really bitchy old lady that lived near my parents when we were growing up. She would shoot at our cows and when my mom rode by with my little sister on her horse she would bang on her garbage can and try to scare the horse. She would drive around trying to run everyone off the road.....so my dad got pissed.

She was an avid gardener and she actually raised and developed roses for some company. She had a huge rose garden. My dad got ahold of some kind of banned soil steralant ( sp) and mixed it it water and made them into ice cubes. The first time it rained we drove by and threw them out into her yard. She never knew what hit her and pretty soon her whole yard dried up and all her roses died....Then she went kinda looney and started driving around with a blow up doll in the passenger seat but that is another story..........

[Mr. T.H. Outis]

Impressive garden.

What was left of my lettuce uneaten, got torn up by slugs or something, and also shriveled by the heat. The mescalun greens went to seed. So I ripped the remainder out of that bed and this weekend I'm going to plant some banana peppers.

My red onion and shallot sets are coming along nicely. My chives have sprouted.

I am going to lay out some more beds in the backyard. WTF do I need grass for anyway? Mowing takes gas which is getting more and more expensive. Why not make the space productive eh?

We have most of the same things growing—though my mesclun is coming in beautifully and I don't have shallots. A few small banana peppers just started peaking out of their buds.

[Kind Lampshade Maker]

That reminds me of a funny story. There was this really bitchy old lady that lived near my parents when we were growing up. She would shoot at our cows...Did she bag any of those cows with deadly rounds? Or did she just annoy them with a little bird-shot? Were there any particular body parts she preferred to target?
and when my mom rode by with my little sister on her horse she would bang on her garbage can and try to scare the horse....As I lived in Sweden, one of the apprentices I used to work with got into some trouble for the humpteenth time, thus was placed into a minimum security rehabilitation facility, some distance away from the town we lived in. Since I was the only one who had a driver’s licence, they set ‘ol shell-shocked Nolte:http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/Tuerkenjaeger/holenolte.gifbehind the wheel of an old Volvo and off we went into the horizon. Now, this old heap was built before there was any mandatory emmissions legislation for motor vehicles pending. Any of you owning an old heap, give this a try:
I could get this car to backfire by simply shifting to a lower gear, to raise the rpms of the engine. I would then shut off the ignition, being careful to not lock the steering column, then pump the gas pedal repetitiously, to force a raw air-fuel mixture into the exhaust system. When one times this properly, the air-fuel mixture will flow to behind the muffler. Once the entire pipe is loaded, you simply have to turn the ignition key back to the running position, resulting in a loud bang. With enough practice, you could reach the decibles to approximately that of an M-80.
As we drove by open fields containing either munching or lazy horses, I would let the old Volvo fart, causing panic among them, sending them in all directions.
They transport horses, there, in special trailers of which the horse is strapped to a railing in a standing position. As one of those horses was being transported by a vehicle directly behind mine, I would fart the old Volvo and noticed how the trailer would rock from side to side. This was helpful, for the driver of the trailer, in honong his towing skills
My dad got ahold of some kind of banned soil steralant ( sp) ....Was this substanced produced as an intended soil sterilant? Or was the use of this substance, for other purposes, discovered to have soil sterilizing qualities?
and mixed it it water and made them into ice cubes...That would be nearly impossible to do, with the stuff I scanned, because Sidium Nitrite is a form of salt
Then she went kinda looney...Well, I would have diagnosed her as looney, even before doing her soil. Blowing her soil simply pushed over the edge, blowing what was left of her already partially blown:)mind
and started driving around with a blow up doll in the passenger seat but that is another story....
That’s the story I was hoping you would elaborate on, in the 1st place

[April]

Lampy,

The stuff my dad used was banned back then and this was 30 years ago so I dont know what it was but it was something that he got from one of his farmer friends...

As for the cows. Yeah we found a few with bullet holes and we found a few dead, though they were so bloated by then that you couldnt tell what killed them, though it was near her house. It was NOT buckshot they were bullets.

Other funny part of the blow up doll story...She lived with her old ancient mother and she would sit her in the backyard to be in the sunshine. I guess her mom finally croaked and she was afraid of being alone so she put the blowup doll ( dressed like Santa) in the backyard in that chair . My mom joked to me that it was her mother and that she had stuffed her....One day I got up the nerve to sneak up to her house and under the barbed wire fence to get a closer look only to find out the "stuffed grandma" was a blow up doll...

When she finally got hauled off to the looney bin the real estate agent said there was a pile of chicken bones next to the toilet in the bathroom.

AHHH childhood memories..........lol

[Kind Lampshade Maker]

Lampy,...
As for the cows. Yeah we found a few with bullet holes and we found a few dead, though they were so bloated by then that you couldnt tell what killed them, though it was near her house...lol
Are you people so sloppy as to not keep track of your cattle:mad:?
Aren't they expensive to lose?
You could have the source of the projectiles researched by forensic experts which could lead to either her arrest or to monetary compensation
...Other funny part of the blow up doll story...afraid of being alone, she put the blowup doll ( dressed like Santa) in the backyard in that chair . My mom joked to me that it was her mother and that she had stuffed her ( :confused: )....lol
This cracker sounds so looney, that I bet some Mexican department store Santa could have snuck in and substituted himself in that chair, then have pretended to be a little short on air. She probably wouldn't have noticed any difference
...When she finally got hauled off to the looney bin the real estate agent said there was a pile of chicken bones next to the toilet in the bathroom...lol
It reminds me of the croaking of Elvis Presley. Didn't they find a pile of peanut butter sandwiches next to his porcelain god?

[April]

Actually our cattle ( or some of our cattle ) run around loose on one of the last open ranges in the state of California. That is how this gal got a chance to shoot them. If you have alot of cattle you cannot keep them in a little pen in your backyard.

[Kind Lampshade Maker]

Actually our cattle ( or some of our cattle ) run around loose on one of the last open ranges in the state of California...
That explains how that Mexican department store Santa was able to sneak in and replace that inflatable dollhttp://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/Tuerkenjaeger/holenolte.gif

[Antiochus Epiphanes]

We have most of the same things growing—though my mesclun is coming in beautifully and I don't have shallots. A few small banana peppers just started peaking out of their buds.

Yeah, I planted the banana pepper seeds, and my mother in law gave me some squash and brussel sprout starts to plant as well.

I still havent laid out the new beds. I keep goofing around all weekend having fun.

[Kind Lampshade Maker]

Yeah,...my mother in law gave me some squash...
My (would-be) mother in law tries to squash my manhood. Good thing she doesn't yet wear combat boots

[Kind Lampshade Maker]

"...I use a classic tractor with a plow and a disc. It is not very big, I have a friend that farms 10 acres every year with a 19 H.P tractor. Mine is a 4 cylinder I am not sure about the H.P..."
Many tractors here ran on only 2 cylinders.
Here's a 20 HP 53 year old, posing with a Redneck and what looks to be a mechanic:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/Tuerkenjaeger/20hp.jpg