White running back Tre Smith starts for Auburn

[bedford]

Tre Smith, a 5-10 207 pound WHITE running back, starts for Auburn
this year. He has had good stats the past few years as a backup running
back.
http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050820/SPORTS/508200368/1002/ARCHIVES

[N.B. Forrest]

Saw him the other night: excellent. The play-by-play guy actually praised him quite effusively, saying after a big first-down run "His coach says he's slow - he's not slow! He's extremely quick!" :cheers:

[bedford]

Now we just need to make 100 clones of him and Jeremy Wariner,
then clone John Riggins while we're at it. :rolleyes:

[Alex Linder]

Mission Accomplished! NFL Purges Record-Setting White Running Backs, Position Remains Coal Black

by J.D. Cash

8 September 2005

The Caste System holds that "Whites Need Not Apply" at most football positions, an unwritten law that the NFL takes most seriously. Striving for many years to establish and maintain the tailback position as a racially pure, all-black domain, the NFL in 2005 preseason found two record-setting white running backs quickly disposed of without even being allowed to show what they could do in pre-season games.

In his senior season at Boise State in 2002, Brock Forsey had nearly 2,000 yards of total offense and scored 32 touchdowns -- only Barry Sanders ever scored more in a single season. Being white, Forsey of course was a walk-on, who still managed to reach that level of success.

Selected late in the '03 draft by the Bears, Forsey was pressed into duty his rookie year when injuries waylaid the team's "real" running backs, i.e. the black ones. Forsey responded with 134 yards rushing and a touchdown against the Cardinals before quickly being relegated to emergency backup status again.

After sneeringly remarking that he looked more like a "team manager" than a running back, new Bears head coach Lovie Smith cut Forsey in 2004. However, jilted by rastafarian muse and belly button comtemplator Ricky Williams, the Miami Dolphins became desperate enough early in the '04 season to actually hire the melanin-challenged Forsey. Quickly realizing their mistake, Forsey was given no chance to win the starting tailback job and again was relegated to deep backup status before being cut.

Washington Redskins head coach Joe Gibbs, who smartly proved his fidelity to Caste System equal opportunity principles in his latest go-round as head coach by summarily cutting white WR John Standeford, the most prolific receiver in Big 10 history, without even as much as playing him in preseason games last summer, signed Forsey and promptly placed him behind seven blacks on the team's depth chart. Forsey was actually allowed to have a carry in a preseason game, and when he didn't "take it to the house" in that single carry, he showed his unworthiness for a roster position and was cut.

The other white upstart to challenge the NFL's Jim Crow laws this year was Jesse Lumsden, a 6-2 230 pounder with 4.4 speed who won the Hec Creighton Trophy last year as Canada's best college football player. Lumsden ran for 1,816 yards and 21 touchdowns, but being white, and a Canuck to boot, wasn't drafted by the NFL, which was far too busy taking "real" running backs like Maurice Clarett, with his blazing 4.84 40 speed and terrific work habits.

Obviously not knowing that only three or four NFL franchises would give him a chance even as a backup, Lumsden signed as a free agent with the Seattle Seahawks, run by veteran Caste System proponent Mike Holmgren. While head coach of the Green Bay Packers, Holmgren was horrified to find both a white tailback, Travis Jervey, and a white wide receiver, Bill Schroeder, on his roster at the same time. Mikey responded in admirable Caste System style, putting both in his "doghouse" while converting Jervey into that white NFL specialty role of "special teams demon" and Schroeder into the most hated player in the league.

According to an article in the Toronto Globe and Mail, Lumsden was promised some carries in preseason games, but Holmgren waived him well before the first cutdown date without allowing him a single touch.

White running backs are almost always purged after high school, before they can threaten the NFL's bastion of racial purity at the position by playing at a major college football program. The nation's 117 Division I-A programs, with very few exceptions, refuse to recruit and develop white running backs.

Occasionally a media article surfaces which acknowledges football's Jim Crow rules. For example, Fred Bacco was the top high school running back in Western Pennsylvania a couple of years ago yet not a single I-A school offered him a scholarship. The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (1/27/04) carried this quote from Bacco: "I actually had a few college coaches tell me I was the wrong color to be a running back. I was surprised some coaches actually came out and said that."

Last year, a Tenneessee newspaper carried the story of how five star white high school running backs in that football-crazy state were all studiously ignored by I-A schools. Tre Smith, who may finally be getting a chance to run the ball at Auburn this year as a senior, was also told by college recruiters that he was the wrong color to be a running back, according to two different newspaper articles. The negative racial stereotypes faced by Chad Brinker, a star running back at Ohio University who was quickly discarded by the NFL, were detailed in another newspaper article which managed to slip by the censors.

Lumsden and Forsey are hardly the first white running backs who managed to star in college in spite of the Caste System who were then shunned by the NFL. Luke Staley, who starred at running back in high school in Oregon, was recruited by every school which offered him a scholarship to play a different position than running back, except for BYU, which gave him an opportunity to run the ball. Staley responded by winning the Doak Walker Award in 2001 as the best running back in the United States.

But Staley wasn't drafted until the sixth round of the 2002 draft by the Detroit Lions, who cut him the next year, even after Staley overcame a knee injury and was as impressive as any running back on the team during training camp. No other team subsequently picked up Staley, even as a backup, and the country's best college running back in 2001 was out of the NFL for good by 2003.

Chance Kretschmer of Nevada led the country in rushing yards in 2001 as a freshman even though he was a walk-on and otherwise had a fine career as one of the very few whites "allowed" to run the ball in Division I-A. However, he went undrafted by the NFL this year and no team had any interest in him even as a free agent.

Defenders of the Caste System claim that the NFL would love to have white running backs, but there just aren't any good enough to play. The reality is that whites are systematically steered away from tailback (and other positions) early on, and continually weeded out even as they succeed in high school and college. The purging of record setters Forsey and Lumsden this year shows yet again that the NFL is dedicated to racial purity at the running back position. The advocates of the anti-white Caste System in sports are undoubtedly cheering in delight.

J.D. CASH

Mr. Cash writes for Caste Football.

[Alex Linder]

Would be interested in your opinions in reaction to the above article.

Do you think there's a tacit "no white RBs" in NFL?

[Tim Pennington]

Yes. There's also a no-go for white cornerbacks in the NFL. For a while there was only one, Jason Sehorn, and only because he was too damn good to ignore. Its more of a "No Glory for Whites" policy, they've been trying to do away with the White quarterback forever. Only problem is ya cant win games with niggerbacks. Interestingly, its also a position you'll never see an Oriental play, because most orientals cant see over the linemen.

[Alex Linder]

It seems to me that in the clutch, white receivers are far more reliable than niggers. Let alone QBs.

[Oy Ze Hate]

I can remember as a lemming being gung-ho about the handful of NFL players who were white in nigger-only positions. I can remember a couple of dozen after the 60's but not many more.

Tailback, cornerback, strong safety, middle linebacker, defensive end, wide receiver, they all seemed to be reserved for blacks. Was it fair? Did blacks simply excel at these specific physical activities? Hell no!

As Americans, we only see the end result, and we like to fool ourselves that black ability is the only factor involved in putting niggers in these black-only positions. The commisioners of the 4 major American sports are all jews. Shit rolls downhill.

JB Cash is proving this position wrong. Whites are being discriminated against on a wide-scale, institutional basis. They LIVE to promote niggers. And they KNOW that niggers would fall to the bottom of every heap they're in if they weren't a protected species. The Olympics proved this. The only white winners were in the sprints and long distance Nigerians. And whites made major in-roads into both of these, despite it all.

Blacks help each other out whenever given an opportunity. For nigger NFL'ers nothing is more important than making a brotha look good. The nigger NBA and the nigger NFL (the only places they can make big money for nothing) would fall to pieces without anti-white institutional racism.

[bedford]

Would be interested in your opinions in reaction to the above article.

Do you think there's a tacit "no white RBs" in NFL?
Mike Alstott is one of the few white tailbacks in the NFL (Tampa Bay)
that I can think of. Bob Konrad came into the league with a lot of promise
playing for Miami. I don't know if he is still with the Dolphins. I have noticed
that there are a handful of white starting fullbacks in the NFL. Bob
Christian played fullback for the Atlanta Falcons for about 8 years(If
I remember correctly) and he did a credible job.

[Intrepid]

Would be interested in your opinions in reaction to the above article.

Do you think there's a tacit "no white RBs" in NFL?

This article, and one would be rather generous even calling it that, is filled with more logical fallacies than Mussolini had holes.

First, if were going to be honest on innate negro abilities, we're going to have to admit they've been given certain genetic strengths over us - speed and overall agility. Those are best represented by one's 40yd sprint time and vertical leap. The positions that most require excellence in these traits - surprise, surprise - the defensive secondary, wide receiving corp and halfback, are the positions in question. Whites typically make up your "hands" receivers. To me, it's almost like the code word "nice neighborhood" is for white suburbs. Meaning, the "hands" wide out is, inevitably, a white guy. Conversely, the nigger is the "speed" guy or "burner." it's rather funny, when you think about it. Forsey, as with the other white backs Cash mentions, accumulated his large yardage figures - primarily - with small conference schools. Therefore, they're over-inflated. Still, Cash's hackneyed analogies aside, it's hardly the Osterman Weekend-like conspiracy he presents, but a organization attempting to maximize its profits via the most talented players on the field.

Second, who is primary audience and financial cash cow for the NFL? Last I checked, it was white males. And, despite the ongoing deluge of deracinated propaganda, by an large, they're going to identify with white players moreso than negroes. As the NFL is a business, it is going to cater to this, much like the NBA - prior to the onslaught of hungry whites from E. Europe - maintained the obligatory white guy, even if his ability wasn't on par with a negro who could have filled the twelve spot better. Mind you, I don't follow either the NBA or NFL because I feel the term "nigger ball" is apt. That said, look at the white receivers who have been nearly knighted by their respected fans. The likes of Biletnikoff, Bebe, Largent, Waddell or McCaffery are merely a few of of the long list of white WRs who were never discrimated against. (A similar list could be made for revered white fullbacks, as well.) In fact, quite on the contrary, as they have been nearly deified. In no small part, because white guys could identify with them, not because of the farcical "Caste System" mentioned by Cash.

The only minor concession I'm willing to make here, there could be something along the lines of what I'd call, for lack of a better phrase, "the reverse quarterback syndrome." In essence, NFL decision makers in times past, because of the negroes' obviously limited mental gifts, shunned the idea of having their teams led by a black at QB. Could be something something similar transpiring to a minor degree with the aforementioned positions. That said, because blacks have, at least statistically, outperformed whites at these positions, stereotypes are naturally going to arise. It's human nature, as it has historically been with QBs, not some loony, utterly unfounded theory.

Making a living in pro sports, including the miniscule odds of actually ever doing so, is something better suited to blacks than whites. Meaning, being that it's a pretty damned risky endeavor, common sense prevails in most whites who have the possible skills to reach the upper echelon of any particular major sport. In short, a further lessening of whites competing at the top levels. This whole issue is a matter of common sense and money, once again, and not discrimination. Hopefully, this article doesn't find a large audience, lest other racially conscious whites be somehow lumped in with this claptrap.

[Keystone]

First, if were going to be honest on innate negro abilities, we're going to have to admit they've been given certain genetic strengths over us - speed and overall agility. Those are best represented by one's 40yd sprint time and vertical leap. The positions that most require excellence in these traits - surprise, surprise - the defensive secondary, wide receiving corp and halfback, are the positions in question. Whites typically make up your "hands" receivers. To me, it's almost like the code word "nice neighborhood" is for white suburbs. Meaning, the "hands" wide out is, inevitably, a white guy. Conversely, the nigger is the "speed" guy or "burner." it's rather funny, when you think about it.
Yep.

The hands or possession receiver on an NFL team is invariably, if they have one, a white guy. He runs his patterns and takes a licking. Usually a tight end or 4th receiver. He has discipline, where the black speedsters have only pure athletic ability and aren't "team" players.

Second, who is primary audience and financial cash cow for the NFL? Last I checked, it was white males. And, despite the ongoing deluge of deracinated propaganda, by an large, they're going to identify with white players moreso than negroes.
One or two "workman" like white guys will satisfy the needs of the white male fan. He feels better about watching and buys more stuff from the sponsors.
That said, look at the white receivers who have been nearly knighted by their respected fans. The likes of Biletnikoff, Bebe, Largent, Waddell or McCaffery are merely a few of of the long list of white WRs who were never discrimated against.
Ya. They were recognized as consumate "skill" players, and can't be messed with. Johnny Unitas is another example of a tough, skill player who can't be unseated by more flashy black QB's, ever. Even the stat geeks won't touch him. Players like our own Jack Lambert, for example, were so aggressive on the field and fit the "crazy white guy" image, that they'll be honored above similar black players.

One of the top ten NFL players of all time and the greatest name ever for a football player----Bronko Nagurski, could still play today. He was a monster in the 1930's and would be now, tough Polish bastard that he was...
Making a living in pro sports, including the miniscule odds of actually ever doing so, is something better suited to blacks than whites. Meaning, being that it's a pretty damned risky endeavor, common sense prevails in most whites who have the possible skills to reach the upper echelon of any particular major sport. In short, a further lessening of whites competing at the top levels. This whole issue is a matter of common sense and money, once again, and not discrimination. Hopefully, this article doesn't find a large audience, lest other racially conscious whites be somehow lumped in with this claptrap.
Aye. The public wants the flash and bravado of the negro. It's spicy and makes for a better Circus. It sells soap and beer, as well.

[Derrick Beukeboom]

There are white players who have the skills and physical athletic ability to play certain positions, but are not given the chance to play. Many talented white tailbacks, quaterbacks, wide receivers who shine in Division 1 football are either:
1.) moved to more 'white' positions like Tight End, fullback, Safety
or
2.) not even given the chance to make and NFL team or cut even after playing well in preseason exhibition games.

There are actually dozens and dozens of examples of white athletic discrimination. You both need to check out www.castefootball.us to read about this issue.

Personally, I somewhat agree with you Intrepid. On average, black athletes are faster than white athletes. But that is not always the case.
It works on unconscious levels like you mentioned. I don't think too many NFL coaches, scouts, front office people, etc. wake up and say 'How can I cut a white boy from this team today?'...but it's all very subtle.
Many of these "experts" buy into the black as superior athlete myth just as much as anyone else fed a healthy diet of hymiewood propoganda.
Yes, on average blacks are faster due to their preponderence of fast twitch muscle fibers. But faster does not mean better skilled, smarter or stronger.

So, many talented young white athletes are steared away from certain positions in football because coaches flat out tell them that they are the wrong color for running back, wide receiver.

Check out the website I mentioned and read some examples.

[N.B. Forrest]

It's true that niggers can, on average, run a little faster and jump a little higher than Whites; there can be no doubt about that. But when one considers that there as so many more Whites than coons in this country, it seems obvious that there should be plenty of Whites getting the glory as running backs & cornerbacks. Clearly niggers would still be disproportionately represented, but not to the absurd levels we see now.

I think a big part of the reason for this shit is that sports scholarships are the chief method the commies/kikes who run our universities employ to fill their cherished Brillo Quota: A race-traitor coach who doesn't silently go along with the game won't be cashing those juicy paychecks for very long.

[Alex Linder]

This article, and one would be rather generous even calling it that, is filled with more logical fallacies than Mussolini had holes.

First, if were going to be honest on innate negro abilities, we're going to have to admit they've been given certain genetic strengths over us - speed and overall agility. Those are best represented by one's 40yd sprint time and vertical leap. The positions that most require excellence in these traits - surprise, surprise - the defensive secondary, wide receiving corp and halfback, are the positions in question.

That was how I felt when I first came across Cash and his site and arguments. But I've come to think lately that I may be relying on default lib assumptions. I mean, no one here would dispute that ESPN/NFL complex promotes blacks in all positions they don't disproportionately fill - esp coaches and QBs. So, I would consider it quite likely that anywhere blacks approached a plausible superiority -- speed -- and that superiority seemed to be the main requirement for a certain position they'd enforce a black dominance at that position. And that could certainly include a tacit affirmative action for the so-called speed positions, which just happen to be the glamour positions.

What has brought me around, to some extent, I'm not persuded completely, is that Cash cites 40-yard times for certain whites that are faster than the blacks.

The second point is that so often in the clutch it is a white guy who makes the plays - the best examples would be the former McCaffrey with Denver in the years they won the Super Bowl, and also the former Ram Ricky Proehl. It tends to be guys like these making the first down catches, the big plays. So speed is I think less of an important factor than the media pretend. It's a variation on what Billy Bean discovered about baseball scouts - they were biased to athletes who looked good, rather than what the statistics showed. They preferred a broad-shouldered Adonis to a lumpy catcher with a much higher on base percentage.

The fact is that whites are better than blacks at almost every single thing that plays into sports success except speed and perhaps agility, although I'm not sure about that, as there are few black gymnasts, for example. Everything else, whites are far better. Given, as NBF says, whites are far more numerous than blacks in America, it's not hard at all to believe that at the least the coaches are giving the nod to niggers no better than whites who are just as fast and probably just plain better, all things consider. They probably have better work ethics, smarter brains, are less insubordinate, and run just as fast. Would coaches actually risk losing games by employing inferior talent? Well, if the other coaches follow the same policy, then yes they very well might. It's parallel to affirmative action among the F500, since there are only a few dozen pro teams and at most a few thousand professional sports slots (all sports).

Does anyone here doubt you could build an all-white NFL team out of simply average guys that could beat all but the top teams?


Whites typically make up your "hands" receivers. To me, it's almost like the code word "nice neighborhood" is for white suburbs. Meaning, the "hands" wide out is, inevitably, a white guy.

I don't know if it's code, but it's a term applied pretty much only to whites, like burly used to be for blacks. All it really means is paying attention to details - running precise routes and focusing on catching the ball, and actually catching it, especially in pressure.

If speed is so important, how come so many slow white receivers are successful? How come the super-fast blacks can't keep up with them? My conclusion is that speed is overrated.


Conversely, the nigger is the "speed" guy or "burner." it's rather funny, when you think about it. Forsey, as with the other white backs Cash mentions, accumulated his large yardage figures - primarily - with small conference schools. Therefore, they're over-inflated. Still, Cash's hackneyed analogies aside, it's hardly the Osterman Weekend-like conspiracy he presents, but a organization attempting to maximize its profits via the most talented players on the field.

Maybe, but if the speed figures he cites are accurate, then there well may be a tacit collusion. Plenty of NFL black stars came out of tiny schools - Jerry Rice for instance. I don't think he was ever noted for speed, either. He's not particularly big or strong either.


Second, who is primary audience and financial cash cow for the NFL? Last I checked, it was white males. And, despite the ongoing deluge of deracinated propaganda, by an large, they're going to identify with white players moreso than negroes.

Actually, the market for NFL is, if I recall, about 40% women. Plenty of women like NBA too, which is at least 80% niggers. Mexicans love NFL, and of course niggers do to. Niggers buy all kinds of jerseys. Being perpetually mentally twelve, they're the perfect consumer market. Mex/niggers are the perfect consumer, not just for sports but for all kinds of high-cost low-benefit items. I just saw today that Mexes go to the movies more often than any other group. I bet their NFL consumption is huge too.


As the NFL is a business, it is going to cater to this, much like the NBA - prior to the onslaught of hungry whites from E. Europe - maintained the obligatory white guy, even if his ability wasn't on par with a negro who could have filled the twelve spot better. Mind you, I don't follow either the NBA or NFL because I feel the term "nigger ball" is apt. That said, look at the white receivers who have been nearly knighted by their respected fans. The likes of Biletnikoff, Bebe, Largent, Waddell or McCaffery are merely a few of of the long list of white WRs who were never discrimated against. (A similar list could be made for revered white fullbacks, as well.) In fact, quite on the contrary, as they have been nearly deified. In no small part, because white guys could identify with them, not because of the farcical "Caste System" mentioned by Cash.

Whites may identify with white receivers, but certainly no official source encourages them to. Whites admire black stars, but dislike nigger behavior. But the NFL and NBA were niggerized years ago, and will never go back, given demographic trends. I find it completely plausible that the NFL would discriminate against whites if two players were approximately equal. There's incredible pressure on coaches and QBs, but much less for receivers and running backs, as they influence the game less. You make the stewards and stewardesses affirmative action hires, no one notices or cares. you make the pilot a monkey, you can't get any passengers on the plane. Any media commentator who pointed out what was going on, let alone spoke against it, would be fired. They're scared shitless of pointing out anything that hints at recognition of TNB. That is the perfect environment for anti-White player policies to thrive.


The only minor concession I'm willing to make here, there could be something along the lines of what I'd call, for lack of a better phrase, "the reverse quarterback syndrome." In essence, NFL decision makers in times past, because of the negroes' obviously limited mental gifts, shunned the idea of having their teams led by a black at QB. Could be something something similar transpiring to a minor degree with the aforementioned positions. That said, because blacks have, at least statistically, outperformed whites at these positions, stereotypes are naturally going to arise. It's human nature, as it has historically been with QBs, not some loony, utterly unfounded theory.

"Can't read defenses" - that's code for dumb nigger. Again, with QB a lot of it, assuming threshhold arm strength, is judgment. Not throwing the dumb pass that is intercepted. Niggers have less control, lower IQs, they are going to make the wrong decision a much larger amount of the time.


Making a living in pro sports, including the miniscule odds of actually ever doing so, is something better suited to blacks than whites. Meaning, being that it's a pretty damned risky endeavor, common sense prevails in most whites who have the possible skills to reach the upper echelon of any particular major sport. In short, a further lessening of whites competing at the top levels. This whole issue is a matter of common sense and money, once again, and not discrimination. Hopefully, this article doesn't find a large audience, lest other racially conscious whites be somehow lumped in with this claptrap.

The comparatively few slots and the high public profile are reasons on the side of the argument that there's some tacit AA going on. Making blacks admired has long been a jewish goal. Sports and music are two areas in which blacks can be presented as qualified. Don't you think the jew would be willing to move a few steps beyond equal treatment to ensure that blacks keep the most prominent slots? They do everywhere else. It seems to me very much that there's media-promulgated a Brezhnev doctrine for sports. That is, blacks keep all "their" positions, and, with help of ESPNFL complex, chip away at traditional-whites'.

You know ESPN would never cover this subject. It is a perfect subject for a budding Byron Jost to make a documentary about. The built-in market is huge.

[Alex Linder]

I think a big part of the reason for this shit is that sports scholarships are the chief method the commies/kikes who run our universities employ to fill their cherished Brillo Quota: A race-traitor coach who doesn't silently go along with the game won't be cashing those juicy paychecks for very long.

Good point about paychecks. It is AMAZING how much coaches are being paid these days, utterly amazing. I don't mean Div I football coaches, I mean division three women's volleyball coaches.

[Anima Eternae]

I find it hard to really cheer for my college team, because everyone's a nigger. There's something deprecating about cheering for niggers. I can handle the occasional nig, but our team is 90% niggaz. They all look the same, and by cheering for them, I feel like I'm holding them in some sort of esteem.

Football the only sport that's entertaining for me to watch. Too bad it's dominated by monkeys.

[Intrepid]

Originally Posted by Alex Linder
So, I would consider it quite likely that anywhere blacks approached a plausible superiority -- speed -- and that superiority seemed to be the main requirement for a certain position they'd enforce a black dominance at that position. And that could certainly include a tacit affirmative action for the so-called speed positions, which just happen to be the glamour positions.

I'm not saying this isn't out of the realm of possiblities, certainly given our political climate. That said, the one point I didn't mention previously, and I think it certainly bears mentioning: the NFL and NBA and the Madison Avenue already have these two particular sports lock, stock and barrel. Unlike virtually every other venture in the history of human existence, blacks can actually preform well at two particular sports that require - in large part - limited mental acuity. They already own these two, to argue differently is a meaningless wrestle with a fait accompli. Niggers at every position does no one any good; in the long run, not even the niggers.

Given, as NBF says, whites are far more numerous than blacks in America, it's not hard at all to believe that at the least the coaches are giving the nod to niggers no better than whites who are just as fast and probably just plain better, all things consider.

I'm not saying this isn't possible. Problem is, Cash uses specious examples to prove his point, imo. What one would have to do is go through the laborious pains of researching how many individuals of each racial group, at their respective positions, are trying out for various positions, amongest other obvious factors. This would have to be done at all stages, at least from junior college, the various levels of 4-year universities, and finally the NFL. That's a tall task, but the only way to get at the crux of the matter.

Well, if the other coaches follow the same policy, then yes they very well might. It's parallel to affirmative action among the F500, since there are only a few dozen pro teams and at most a few thousand professional sports slots (all sports).

If this were the case, you wouldn't see a dwindling amount of negroes in baseball, for instance. They're down to less than 9% now in that sport.

Does anyone here doubt you could build an all-white NFL team out of simply average guys that could beat all but the top teams?

Average guys? What do you mean? Regardless of my feelings on the savages, I see no reason to say that negroes can't play the game rather well.

***Slightly off topic: has anyone noticed the disparity in black baseball players versus the NFL and NBA in how they communicate? Meaning, a Joe Morgan or a Harold Reynolds, for example, don't sound like your Sunday morn' ebonics primate sitting next to, say, Dan Marino. In general, blacks in baseball are far less, well, nigger-like in both their collective demeanor and overall speaking skills. Any different opinions or possible reasons why?

If speed is so important, how come so many slow white receivers are successful? How come the super-fast blacks can't keep up with them? My conclusion is that speed is overrated.

Speed may be overrated. Problem is, it's the only definitive statisitc kept. As in, there is no dropped passes vs. caught passes statisical category, like a passing percentage with QBs. Another factor that you're not taking into consideration, speed, or better yet, the very threat of it on the field, opens up the field for the "hands" receiver-oriented routes.

Maybe, but if the speed figures he cites are accurate, then there well may be a tacit collusion. Plenty of NFL black stars came out of tiny schools - Jerry Rice for instance. I don't think he was ever noted for speed, either. He's not particularly big or strong either.

True. My point was, however, that a runner's 2,000 yards at, say, Boise St., is considerably less remarkable than at OU or Nebraska. He simply slanted it in a rather clumsy fashion, imo.

Actually, the market for NFL is, if I recall, about 40% women. Plenty of women like NBA too, which is at least 80% niggers. Mexicans love NFL, and of course niggers do to. Niggers buy all kinds of jerseys. Being perpetually mentally twelve, they're the perfect consumer market. Mex/niggers are the perfect consumer, not just for sports but for all kinds of high-cost low-benefit items. I just saw today that Mexes go to the movies more often than any other group. I bet their NFL consumption is huge too.

I didn't know that about the gals. You're probably right here on all counts. I was thinking more along the lines of who fills the arenas and stadiums of our the "big four" sports - primarily whites. That is probably a minor portion the overall revenue being generated, however. Then again, I only attend and pay much attention to baseball and puck, anyway, so I'm probably way out of the loop.

Whites may identify with white receivers, but certainly no official source encourages them to.

Where did this come from?

I find it completely plausible that the NFL would discriminate against whites if two players were approximately equal.

Like I said, it's possible but not probable, for a plethora of reasons. When we have tangible, government sanctioned discrimination against whites, I can't see the reason for all this hoopla for what could only be considered minor infractions at best.

There's incredible pressure on coaches...

This, above everything and anything in sports, is where the pressure of AA is going to be applied with the most vigor. I guarantee you, ownership groups cringe & piss blood over the issue.

"Can't read defenses" - that's code for dumb nigger. Again, with QB a lot of it, assuming threshhold arm strength, is judgment. Not throwing the dumb pass that is intercepted. Niggers have less control, lower IQs, they are going to make the wrong decision a much larger amount of the time.

Agreed. Despite the emergence of a few agile bucks at the position, racial stereotypes are effectively continued by their still showing a preponderance for the behavior mentioned above.

The comparatively few slots and the high public profile are reasons on the side of the argument that there's some tacit AA going on. Making blacks admired has long been a jewish goal. Sports and music are two areas in which blacks can be presented as qualified. Don't you think the jew would be willing to move a few steps beyond equal treatment to ensure that blacks keep the most prominent slots? They do everywhere else. It seems to me very much that there's media-promulgated a Brezhnev doctrine for sports. That is, blacks keep all "their" positions, and, with help of ESPNFL complex, chip away at traditional-whites'.

While I agree on the general scope of "Sports and music," as well as the Jewish angle to this, I still don't see the AA involved here. Other than an ingrained, subliminal prejudice, whether right or wrong, amongest coaching staffs for blacks at certain skill positions. Like I said, if it were truly an AA-type issue, why hasn't there been a furor over the decreasing numbers of blacks in baseball? Why isn't there more of a huge flap over them not being on the ice, links or tennis courts, either? Unlike football or basketball, these are at least fertile areas for propaganda and real AA opportunities.

You know ESPN would never cover this subject. It is a perfect subject for a budding Byron Jost to make a documentary about. The built-in market is huge.

True, especially given folks' fascination with sports in general. However, given the nature of the subject, getting anyone of real significance, e.g., players, coaches, commentators, to talk about it would be difficult, to say the least.

[Alex Linder]

I'm not saying this isn't out of the realm of possiblities, certainly given our political climate. That said, the one point I didn't mention previously, and I think it certainly bears mentioning: the NFL and NBA and the Madison Avenue already have these two particular sports lock, stock and barrel. Unlike virtually every other venture in the history of human existence, blacks can actually preform well at two particular sports that require - in large part - limited mental acuity. They already own these two, to argue differently is a meaningless wrestle with a fait accompli. Niggers at every position does no one any good; in the long run, not even the niggers.

I don't think they would ever get rid of whites completely, but football in particular went from about half white in the eighties to probably 70% black today, at least for the starters.


I'm not saying this isn't possible. Problem is, Cash uses specious examples to prove his point, imo. What one would have to do is go through the laborious pains of researching how many individuals of each racial group, at their respective positions, are trying out for various positions, amongest other obvious factors. This would have to be done at all stages, at least from junior college, the various levels of 4-year universities, and finally the NFL. That's a tall task, but the only way to get at the crux of the matter.


Yes, but I give him credit for getting a wedge into my closed mind. As usual, it was a case of glossing over. I had never considered the point that "they" might be discriminating against whites in the NFL. The fact that some blacks are qualified to play pro sports does not mean there is no discrimination going on. But yes, Cash's arguments fall far short of scientific. The thing cries for a Sailer or Taylor writeup. I have a strong suspicion, thanks to Cash, that there is a there there. One piece I remember, it may even be elsewhere on this thread, was about multiple top high school running backs in Tennessee not getting any interest from Div. I.


If this were the case, you wouldn't see a dwindling amount of negroes in baseball, for instance. They're down to less than 9% now in that sport.


Virtually no starting pitchers are blacks. They can't use their speed/power/aggressiveness to full effect in baseball. Baseball has become completely White and Latin, and the media more or less play it off as last century's spot, while still promoting the minority angles. They fellate the ghost of Jackie Robinson every year, and are headed the same way with Roberto Clemente. IMO baseball will not disappear because it is harder to queer through socialized reffing. That is not true of football and basketball. I suspect, but can't prove, that these mass sports are used to condition the masses to arbitrary decisions.


Average guys? What do you mean? Regardless of my feelings on the savages, I see no reason to say that negroes can't play the game rather well.


Black do very little really well, and that goes for most black professional athletes too. Watch the NBA. The blacks miss all kinds of small points that even average whites would pay attention to. The difference between black and white is most accentuated in basketball, even more than football. Black jumping superiority is, it seems to me, greater than the speed differential. Yet the minute, as you say, "hungry" white guys appear, they push blacks off the roster. Those Eastern European kids are too foreign or hungry or just plain dont care that basketball is the black man's game, as Larry Bird mistakenly said. Playing defense and executing plays are completely foreign to nigger mentality. All they want to do is run and shoot and brag. They're monkeys. Even the pro coaches have a real hard time keeping a cover on their monkeyness. Popovich -- who used to coach at my school, Pomona, back in the eighties, before his friendship with Larry Brown took him to the top -- is able to control his niggers because Tim Duncan, like David Robinson, is much more self-controlled than the average coon, and will take instruction; and also because Popovich has the military background to be a hardass. But on most teams, the niggers run the coaches. And they pitch fits or sulk until the coach gets fired if they don't like their playing time. I suspect the Europeans will keep pushing the coons out of the NBA. I certainly hope so. White basketball is a great thing; coon hijinks is not.


***Slightly off topic: has anyone noticed the disparity in black baseball players versus the NFL and NBA in how they communicate? Meaning, a Joe Morgan or a Harold Reynolds, for example, don't sound like your Sunday morn' ebonics primate sitting next to, say, Dan Marino. In general, blacks in baseball are far less, well, nigger-like in both their collective demeanor and overall speaking skills. Any different opinions or possible reasons why?

Joe Morgan DID speak like a nigger (not a dumb nigger, just an uneducated black) when he started. But he took elocution lessons, and I suspect grammar lessons too. He's the rare nigger that isn't a nigger. He is respectable. He recognized that he didn't know something that he needed to know, and took it upon himself to learn what he needed, and then actually became good at it. Very, very few blacks are like that. Harold Reynolds, in the years I saw him on ESPN, never could learn to speak non-mush English.


Speed may be overrated. Problem is, it's the only definitive statisitc kept. As in, there is no dropped passes vs. caught passes statisical category, like a passing percentage with QBs. Another factor that you're not taking into consideration, speed, or better yet, the very threat of it on the field, opens up the field for the "hands" receiver-oriented routes.

That's true, the speedy niggers can be decoys, but that could work both ways. As for speed, Cash cites stats. I don't know them well enough to provide a list, but he cited at least a couple whites under 4.4. I didn't realize there were white players that fast. An analogy to me, and I hear this from some of our people who are engineers, is importing Asians to performing computer work, but keeping around some white guys to clean up after their substandard work. Yeah, have your chest-thumping ace boon coons for the cameras and the groid audience factor, but keep a few white guys to catch footballs.

Really, in the years I watched sports, I came to believe NFL is different from professional wrestling in degree, not kind. It's less scripted, but it is to a good extent predecided. The nigger audience gets the coon who whips out a pen and signs the ball in the end zone; the blacks love it, the whites love to hate it. The white guy makes the catch a cross the middle under pressure, gets up and trots back to the huddle, and the whites love that, the blacks simply have to respect it. The league makes money, the illusion that races can live together is sustained, the beer companies make money, and everybody's happy.


True. My point was, however, that a runner's 2,000 yards at, say, Boise St., is considerably less remarkable than at OU or Nebraska. He simply slanted it in a rather clumsy fashion, imo.

He doesn't make a scientific case, true. Somebody like a Bean needs to run computer models and determine the characteristics of successful vs unsuccessful draft choices. There may be a window of advantage there that somebody could exploit. Maybe someone has done such; I don't know that much about football drafting. They may be overrating speed and underrating IQ, as baseball scouts were overestimating batting average and looks and underrating on base percentage and slugging.


Like I said, it's possible but not probable, for a plethora of reasons. When we have tangible, government sanctioned discrimination against whites, I can't see the reason for all this hoopla for what could only be considered minor infractions at best.

It's like movie reviews. Yes, the movies reviewed are generally stupid, but that's where people's heads are. We have to meet them where they are and bring them to our point of view. Mass sports reaches probably 100 million whites in America. If they can be shown that whites are discriminated against even in sports, it could only help push them our way.



While I agree on the general scope of "Sports and music," as well as the Jewish angle to this, I still don't see the AA involved here. Other than an ingrained, subliminal prejudice, whether right or wrong, amongest coaching staffs for blacks at certain skill positions. Like I said, if it were truly an AA-type issue, why hasn't there been a furor over the decreasing numbers of blacks in baseball?

That I don't know. Milton Bradley bitched about it lately. I don't know what percentage blacks made up when at their highest. I don't know how much they've dropped.

One problem here is the near-complete absence of real journalism re mass sports, very similar to politics. They never report on what the leagues, for example, tell the referrees. Or the owners. I think the fact that Hisps are so common has eclipsed concern for blacks. It's not just whites taking black jobs, so to boost groids to a large extent they'd have to pit the tans against them. And in other sectors we see plenty of blacks whining about mexinvasion, but no mainstream pols picking up on their points.


Why isn't there more of a huge flap over them not being on the ice, links or tennis courts, either? Unlike football or basketball, these are at least fertile areas for propaganda and real AA opportunities.

"I'm Tiger Woods." I remember that campaign. They do continual barriers-breaking promos featuring groids entering everything, even NASCAR. I saw some photo in Esquire or something of some snooty nigger posed looking down on a pit crew redneck. Coverage operates on the assumption that anything blacks don't dominate is due to white racism, and anything they do dominate is due to legitimate superiority.

It doesn't make sense that there would not be discrimination against white athletes where they can get away with it. For example, and I know nothing about car racing, maybe that Southern kid who's struggled to get into NASCAR would like to have the sponsor money the media/org pushes the group to give to a less-experienced, less-able minority hopeful. Maybe the marginal white speedster is edged out under cover of 'white men can't run/jump.' So the media promote the breakthroughs -- Tiger and the Williams sisters -- and the claim the reason there aren't more of them is the usual explain-all. Yet when whites make breakthroughs -- Jeremy Warriner -- the jews don't do the reverse. They ignore it. It's like geometry where you waste time proving that a line bisecting another line creates angles of equal measure. It's self-evident. Once you see how the media think, even if you don't understand the why, you can predict with pretty much 100% certainty how they'll treat anything. One knows without needing to prove that if a white boy wins the heavyweight boxing championship, or wins the 400 meter dash, or proves himself the best cornerback in college, it will never be treated like a colored breakthrough in a white stronghold. Race is always removed from white achievements, but always emphasized in black achievements. Always black sports achievements are used to bolster lies they can achieve in non-sports areas, save for white racism; never are white achievements across the board touted as evidence of the remarkable capacity of the race. Thus, Jesse Owens wins a gold metal, he disproves Hitler's master race theory. Which of course the media would have agreed were proved had jesse lost! And in fact, Germans did win the most medals at that Olympics, so even their own trumpeted example doesn't work.


True, especially given folks' fascination with sports in general. However, given the nature of the subject, getting anyone of real significance, e.g., players, coaches, commentators, to talk about it would be difficult, to say the least.

There is no real sports journalism. When it comes to race, sports is just another venue for politics, same taboos apply.

[N.B. Forrest]

One knows without needing to prove that if a white boy wins the heavyweight boxing championship, or wins the 400 meter dash, or proves himself the best cornerback in college, it will never be treated like a colored breakthrough in a white stronghold.

This is demonstrably true. Vitali Klitschko is currently the top heavyweight, but do the sports kikes warble about the racial implications of this important White achievement? Shit no, it's "Well, clearly the heavyweight division is at it's nadir now....." :box:

[Lagergeld]

What kind of white parent names his kid Tre? I have this image of dredlocks and marijuana in my head that I can't shake.

[Steve B]

Really, in the years I watched sports, I came to believe NFL is different from professional wrestling in degree, not kind. It's less scripted, but it is to a good extent predecided. The nigger audience gets the coon who whips out a pen and signs the ball in the end zone; the blacks love it, the whites love to hate it. The white guy makes the catch a cross the middle under pressure, gets up and trots back to the huddle, and the whites love that, the blacks simply have to respect it.

I always enjoy the debate between Alex and Intrepid for the simple reason they confirm things I already know. Alex has played sports, Intrepid I donno, but he certainly knows what he's talking about.

I'm gonna chime in on this one because it's something I have a bit of experience with and the kettlebell pussies who always claim it's about me but who have never never taken a snap, fuck you!

I went to a California high school in the seventies where I played football. But it was no ordinary high school. You see, in Cali sports are divided up in terms of population. You can't have a 2500 hundred population school playing against a 500 population school. It wouldn't be fair, do the math. It's simple statistics...a larger population to choose athletes from is gonna get you a better team. So Cali created leagues from 1A to 4A. 1A being the least populated and 4A being the most populated and I went to a 4A high school.

But, as I said, it wasn't an ordinary high school. Upper middle class, White, with an alumni and a business locality that had common interests and the ability to recruit players from all over the country. Not just the players mind you, but the families. Imagine, if you lived in a community where their was the financial and tax base to give a good paying job to a fella who had a superstar for a son! Just like the big time colleges do! And no, I wasn't one of the superstars...but I played on a team that was full of them.

That was our team and we kicked the shit out of everyone in our 4A league and that wasn't easily done. We were CIF champions with a coach who should have been at USC, a star quarterback, a local boy who at 5-11 and 190 lbs could fullback at any college he chose and a 6-5, 225 offensive lineman by the name of Greg Metcalf who ended up being the 3rd best wrestler in the state.

Lowly Steve B was part of the un-vaunted defense where he was an outside linebacker. Next stop, the California State quarterfinals against a nearly all congoid school called Hawthorne High. Should be interesting!