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Rob Roy MacGregor
September 12th, 2005, 07:15 AM
MSG - The Slow Poisoning Of America

MSG Hides Behind 25+ Names, Such As 'Natural Flavouring'
MSG Is Also In Your Favorite Coffee Shops And Drive-Ups

9-12-5

I wondered if there could be an actual chemical causing the massive obesity epidemic, so did a friend of mine, John Erb.

He was a research assistant at the University of Waterloo in Ontario, Canada, and spent years working for the government.

He made an amazing discovery while going through scientific journals for a book he was writing called "The Slow Poisoning of America".

In hundreds of studies around the world, scientists were creating obese mice and rats to use in diet or diabetes test studies. No strain of rat or mice is naturally obese, so the scientists have to create them. They make these morbidly obese creatures by injecting them with MSG when they are first born. The MSG triples the amount of insulin the pancreas creates; causing rats (and humans?) to become obese. They even have a title for the fat rodents they create: "MSG-Treated Rats".

I was shocked too. I went to my kitchen, checking the cupboards and the fridge. MSG was in everything: The Campbell's soups, the Hostess Doritos, the Lays flavoured potato chips, Top Ramen, Betty Crocker Hamburger Helper, Heinz canned gravy, Swanson frozen prepared meals, Kraft salad dressings, especially the 'healthy low fat' ones.

The items that didn't have MSG marked on the product label had something called ''Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein'', which is just another name for Monosodium Glutamate.

It was shocking to see just how many of the foods we feed our children everyday are filled with this stuff. They hide MSG under many different names in order to fool those who carefully read the ingredient list, so they don't catch on. (Other names for MSG: 'Accent' - 'Aginomoto' - 'Natural Meet Tenderizer', etc) But it didn't stop there. When our family went out to eat, we started asking at the restaurants what menu items had MSG.

Many employees, even the managers, swore they didn't use MSG. But when we ask for the ingredient list, which they grudgingly provided, sure enough MSG and Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein were everywhere:

Burger King
McDonalds
Wendy's
Taco Bell

And every restaurant like: TGIF, Chilis', Applebees and Denny's use MSG in abundance.

Kentucky Fried Chicken seemed to be the WORST offender: MSG was in EVERY chicken dish, salad dressing and gravy. No wonder I loved to eat that coating on the skin, their secret spice was MSG.

So, why is MSG in so may of the foods we eat?

Is it a preservative or a vitamin?? Not according to my friend John. In the book he wrote, an expose of the food additive industry called "The Slow Poisoning of America" he said that MSG is added to food for the addictive effect it has on the human body. http://www.spofamerica.com

Even the propaganda website sponsored by the food manufacturers lobby group supporting MSG at: http://www.msgfactscom/facts/msgfact12.html explains that the reason they add it to food is to make people EAT MORE OF THEIR PRODUCTS.

A study of the elderly showed that people eat more of the foods it is added to.The Glutamate Association lobby group says eating more benefits the elderly, but what does it do to the rest of us? 'Betcha can't eat just one', takes on a whole new meaning where MSG is concerned! And we wonder why the nation is overweight?

The MSG manufacturers themselves admit that it addicts people to their products. It makes people choose their product over others, and makes people eat more of it than they would if MSG wasn't added.

Not only is MSG scientifically proven to cause obesity, it is an addictive substance! Since its introduction into the American food supply fifty years ago, MSG has been added in larger and larger doses to the pre-packaged meals, soups, snacks and fast foods we are tempted to eat everyday.The FDA has set no limits on how much of it can be added to food. They claim it's safe to eat in any amount. How can they claim it safe when there are hundreds of scientific studies with titles like these? :-

'The monosodium glutamate (MSG) obese rat as a model for the study of exercise in obesity'. GobattoCA, Mello MA, Souza CT, Ribeiro IA.Res Commun Mol Pathol Pharmacol. 2002.

'Adrenalectomy abolishes the food-induced hypothalamic serotonin release in both normal and monosodium glutamate-obese rats'. Guimaraes RB, Telles MM, Coelho VB, Mori C, Nascimento CM, Ribeiro Brain Res Bull. 2002 Aug.

'Obesity induced by neonatal monosodium glutamate treatment in spontaneously hypertensive rats: an animal model of multiple risk factors'. Iwase M, Yamamoto M, Iino K, IchikawaK, Shinohara N, Yoshinari Fujishima Hypertens Res. 1998 Mar.

'Hypothalamic lesion induced by injection of monosodium glutamate in suckling period and subsequent development of obesity'. Tanaka K, Shimada M, Nakao K, Kusunoki Exp Neurol. 1978 Oct.

Yes, that last study was not a typo, it WAS written in 1978. Both the "medical research community" and "food manufacturers" have known about MSG's side effects for decades! Many more studies mentioned in John Erb's book link MSG to Diabetes, Migraines and headaches, Autism, ADHD and even Alzheimer's. But what can we do to stop the food manufactures from dumping fattening and addictive MSG into our food supply and causing the obesity epidemic we now see?

Even as you read this, G. W. Bush and his corporate supporters are pushing a Bill through Congress called the "Personal Responsibility in Food Consumption Act" also known as the "Cheeseburger Bill", this sweeping law bans anyone from suing food manufacturers, sellers and distributors. Even if it comes out that they purposely added an addictive chemical to their foods. Read about it for yourself at: http://www.yahoo.com. The Bill has already been rushed through the House of Representatives, and is due for the same rubber stamp at Senate level. It is important that Bush and his corporate supporters get it through before the media lets everyone know about 'MSG, the intentional Nicotine for food'.

Several months ago, John Erb took his book and his concerns to one of the highest government health officials in Canada. While sitting in the Government office, the official told him "Sure, I know how bad MSG is, I wouldn't touch the stuff." But this top level government official refused to tell the public what he knew.

The big media doesn't want to tell the public either, fearing legal issues with their advertisers. It seems that the fallout on fast food industry may hurt their profit margin. The food producers and restaurants have been addicting us to their products for years, and now we are paying the price for it. Our children should not be cursed with obesity caused by an addictive food additive. But what can I do about it?... I'm just one voice.

What can I do to stop the poisoning of our children, while our governments are insuring financial protection for the industry that is poisoning us.

This e-mail is going out to everyone I know in an attempt to tell you the truth that the corporate owned politicians and media won't tell you. The best way you can help to save yourself and your children from this drug-induced epidemic, is to forward this email to everyone. With any luck, it will circle the globe before politicians can pass the legislation protecting those who are poisoning us. The food industry learned a lot from the tobacco industry. Imagine if big tobacco had a bill like this in place before someone blew the whistle on Nicotine?

If you are one of the few who can still believe that MSG is good for us, and you don't believe what John Erb has to say, see for yourself. Go to the National Library of Medicine, at http://www.pubmed.com. Type in the words "MSG Obese" and read a few of the 115 medical studies that appear.

We the public, do not want to be rats in one giant experiment and we do not approve of food that makes us into a nation of obese, lethargic, addicted sheep, feeding the food industry's bottom line, while waiting for the heart transplant, diabetic induced amputation, blindness or other obesity induced, life threatening disorders. With your help we can put an end to this poison. Do your part in sending this message out by word of mouth, e-mail or by distribution of this print-out to all your friends all over the world and stop this 'Slow Poisoning of Mankind' by the packaged food industry.

Blowing the whistle on MSG is our responsibility, get the word out.

http://www.rense.com/general67/msg.htm

JoeSixPack
September 13th, 2005, 12:52 AM
MSG is why I refuse to eat any food except that which my wife or myself prepare. I have always been "sensitive" to it, and have sometimes gotten sick: AKA The Chinese Food Syndrome. :mad:

About a year and a half ago, I and my wife ate at a restaurant (with my parents); we went home and within 3 hours we were plagued with headaches and nausea and (!) we actually started HALLUCINATING! :eek:

My parents were not affected. I think that was because they regularly eat MSG/DSG/DSI/HVP containing products. My mom used to feel weird after eating Chinese at certain places, but she "got over it". By building up a tolerance. :confused:

This crap is a neurotoxin. Other shit to avoid: Aspartame, Fluoride, and Tartrazine (yellow #5).

I prefer freshly killed meat and freshly harvested vegetables. :)

SSanguine
September 13th, 2005, 01:26 AM
Just another reason why having a large garden and organically fed livestock producing enough food for you and your family year round is so important. Everyone should brush up on their canning skills to keep those veggies availible in winter. Also, right now is a GREAT time to start putting up the apples. Make your own yummy applesauce and dehydrate some apple rings to create a healthy and quick snack for the kiddies. :)

Pale Horse
September 13th, 2005, 04:03 AM
I cut out the MSG years ago, never could stand the qwickie foods it is in,My wife caught on and followed suit.She shed pounds off without even trying hard after years of "dieting" and struggling.
I'm also not a big fan of milk or dairy products made in Amerikwa.Look it up,individual cows today produce immense amounts of milk compared to yester-year.The reason?The farmer are jacking them up on estrogen.A gallon of whole milk has more estrogen than a womans body will produce in a lifetime.Ever wonder why those young girls are developing so quickly?It also makes me wonder if thats not whats causing the rampant homo shit goin on in todays world,all those Mc D's milkshakes lol.

SSanguine
September 13th, 2005, 02:20 PM
A normal farmer does not pump their dairy cows full of hormones, unlike the so called Corporate "farmers". Real farmers know that Nature's way of things is always best. I know where my milk comes from and I don't think that it is not normal for girls to be developing more quickly now. Years and years of women having children at very young ages has finally caught up evolution. This is why now you actually see 13 and 14 year old girls having babies and not dieing during pregnency or child birth. Their bodies can handle the pressure of it. Not that I agree at all of girls this age having children because they are most definently not mentally ready, but I am glad to know that some young girls and also boys are growing up healthier than before with the correct diet.

Dwarf of Kaladim
November 19th, 2005, 06:11 PM
I want you guys to go look at vintage photos, it could be only 50 years ago and you'll notice that not only are most people at a good weight but they are also just better looking in general. Look around when you are in public, i've notice that a lot of people are just incredibly fat and unnattractive. Disease is also on the rise. The US is a country that only cares about money, they don't give a fuck about peoples health.

Mechanic
November 20th, 2005, 05:32 PM
Kievsky is quite knowledgeable in terms of farming(maybe organic,specifically)and hopefully will comment.

Kievsky
November 21st, 2005, 07:19 AM
Wow, this is amazing.

My reasons for advocating local farming have to do with land use. I can't stand to see perfectly good farmland get bulldozed into cookie cutter McMansion suburbs which, like the large inner city Victorians, house rich whites when they are first built, and later become mud slum housing.

The only reason they are able to get away with this is because they temporarily have a cheap source of Industrial Agriculture food from the Midwest, and from abroad. We now import more of our food than we produce in this country!

This whole system is setting us up for mass starvation. The MSG thing is very, very horrendous; but just think of mass starvation. We are being set up for it.

There's no point in attempting to reform the system. Instead, get out of it. Join a CSA farm in your area, you can find one at:

http://wsare.usu.edu/pub/index.cfm?sub=csa

If you want to do some "public good" write a letter to the agribusiness companies like ConAgra, Monsanto, etc., telling them why you joined a local CSA. Send a picture of yourself with a basket of vegetables giving the middle finger to them, and list the reasons why you got out of their corporate food system. Namely:

GM (genetic modification of crops and animals)
MSG
employeeing illegal Mex
huge gov't subsidies

Of course also farm your own property, no matter how small. Your goal should be all food grown locally. Adopt methods of food preservation such as canning, dehydration, and pickling (aka lacto-fermentation). There's plenty of books on this. As far as the dangers of canning, the botulism toxin is destroyed if you boil the food for 12 to 20 minutes. There's a lot of ways to be safe before hand, but if in doubt, boil the hell out of it.

I am trying to get people to do local trading. For example, if you lived in Connecticut and didn't have land, I'd have you join a CSA, and also become a cheesemaker. You can get the equipment and classes at www.cheesemaking.com and I know a source of raw farm milk around here. I'd buy your cheese from you.

Get a dozen people in your area doing trade in stuff like, cheese, beer, vegetables, and pooling your money to get locally raised cows and pigs butchered, you'll be amazed at how much money you save.

There's a well known VNN'er on this board who started farming his property after reading my haranguing on this subject. He lives nearby, and we had plans to make extra money selling at a farm market. Well, the farm market didn't work out, but he grows enough to supply himself year round, and the other day he said to me,

"You know, even though the idea to sell didn't work out, I eat far better than I would otherwise be able to. The natural foods store sells the same kind of stuff I grow, but the price is ridiculous. I eat like a rich man because of this garden."

If you are in CT or nearby, I can involve you in my local economy. If not, find the resources in your area and get to know them -- the local slaughterhouse, the local dairy farms, the CSA farms, etc. They need your patronage and support, and you'll get a great deal from them. This is the time to find them. Someday they will be "fashionable" and therefore expensive and out of reach.

Americans still think food magically appears at the supermarket or at the restaurant. They think gasoline magically appears at the pump. That's why they don't care where it comes from or how it got there.

Put aside this magical thinking and grow up and take charge of your existence. you'll have a better chance of surviving what's coming . . . hell ,you might even find yourself with a little bit of power if you position yourself properly.

Whitefist
December 6th, 2005, 05:37 PM
Wow, this is amazing.

My reasons for advocating local farming have to do with land use. I can't stand to see perfectly good farmland get bulldozed into cookie cutter McMansion suburbs which, like the large inner city Victorians, house rich whites when they are first built, and later become mud slum housing.

The only reason they are able to get away with this is because they temporarily have a cheap source of Industrial Agriculture food from the Midwest, and from abroad. We now import more of our food than we produce in this country!

This whole system is setting us up for mass starvation. The MSG thing is very, very horrendous; but just think of mass starvation. We are being set up for it.

There's no point in attempting to reform the system. Instead, get out of it. Join a CSA farm in your area, you can find one at:

Sage advice as always from Kievsky. And his remarks on us being set up for mass starvation, frighteningly may be all too true. Do not forget who perpetrated the mass execution by starvation in what was at one time called the breadbasket of Europe, Ukraine. I'll give you three guesses and the first two don't count...