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Betsy Ross
September 24th, 2005, 04:30 PM
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Keystone
September 24th, 2005, 06:32 PM
Vintage baseball leagues are beginning to sprout up: here (http://eteamz.active.com/BAVBB/)

This is a potentially good development.
Nice!

http://eteamz.active.com/bavbb/images/bball01.jpg

Where's Jackie Robinson? LOL.

More white folks should play baseball----it doesn't take all that much. Screw organized leagues. I didn't have them, but still played baseball to my heart's content.

Keystone
September 24th, 2005, 07:25 PM
Here's our local team.

http://www.roxburyny.com/main/recr/rox9.html

http://vbba.org/teams/roxbury.html

Except for catcher and pitcher, these guys play without gloves. Many broken fingers. Not for me, Itz.
http://vbba.org/images/teams/roxbury.jpg



Great stuff Doppel ^^...

Alex Linder
September 27th, 2005, 06:55 PM
Now that is an interesting development. Like Civil War reenactments, but fun. Perhaps a veiled way to create whites-only sports league?

Perhaps a lawyer can answer: would it be illegal to set up a whites-only sports league?

Antiochus Epiphanes
September 28th, 2005, 01:14 PM
Now that is an interesting development. Like Civil War reenactments, but fun. Perhaps a veiled way to create whites-only sports league?......: would it be illegal to set up a whites-only sports league?

1- re teams. It's employment, so it would be employment discrimination. Treating players as independent contractors would not solve the problem either, there's a different law that covers contractors called 1981 which is not well known. but could easily be used to bust that up. Only a "club" style amateur team could be limited by race as far as I understand it. Not any college or nonprofit either-- they would get their exemptions revoked.

2- ball fields-- are public accomodations. seating could not be restricted by race.

Only way I could see it would be unpaid, amateur club style teams and venues that were invite only and not open to the public. Which would be viable economically only on a local basis if at all.

Funny thing only, on NPR I heard about an all-Jap baseball team out west somewhere. You would think that would violate these laws too. Nobody cares-- they arent White. Civil rights laws are all about harassing Whites.

We arent free in this country. Simple as that.

Alex Linder
September 29th, 2005, 01:15 AM
1- re teams. It's employment, so it would be employment discrimination. Treating players as independent contractors would not solve the problem either, there's a different law that covers contractors called 1981 which is not well known. but could easily be used to bust that up. Only a "club" style amateur team could be limited by race as far as I understand it. Not any college or nonprofit either-- they would get their exemptions revoked.

That's what I mean, recreational leagues, set up by private groups.


2- ball fields-- are public accomodations. seating could not be restricted by race.

Surely not all of them. I know of places around St. Louis that are privately owned softball parks.

If I own the land, and I set up fields and I form leagues and run a snack bar, why can't I make it an all-White affair? I don't see why that would be illegal.


Only way I could see it would be unpaid, amateur club style teams and venues that were invite only and not open to the public. Which would be viable economically only on a local basis if at all.

I'm surprised stands count as public accommodations. That would make it impossible to do a pro-white league for paid admissions.


Funny thing only, on NPR I heard about an all-Jap baseball team out west somewhere. You would think that would violate these laws too. Nobody cares-- they arent White. Civil rights laws are all about harassing Whites.

We arent free in this country. Simple as that.

True enough.

Antiochus Epiphanes
September 29th, 2005, 09:40 AM
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Surely not all of them. I know of places around St. Louis that are privately owned softball parks. ...........If I own the land, and I set up fields and I form leagues and run a snack bar, why can't I make it an all-White affair? I don't see why that would be illegal....I'm surprised stands count as public accommodations. That would make it impossible to do a pro-white league for paid admissions...........


The government restricts activities on private land all the time. They say you can't fill in a little pond with cat-tails because it's a wetland. They sure in hell can say that you can't charge for admission to a Whites only baseball game or sell food to be consumed on the premises.

http://straylight.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode42/usc_sec_42_00002000---a000-.html


§ 2000a. Prohibition against discrimination or segregation in places of public accommodation


Release date: 2005-02-25

(a) Equal access
All persons shall be entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, as defined in this section, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin.
(b) Establishments affecting interstate commerce or supported in their activities by State action as places of public accommodation; lodgings; facilities principally engaged in selling food for consumption on the premises; gasoline stations; places of exhibition or entertainment; other covered establishments
Each of the following establishments which serves the public is a place of public accommodation within the meaning of this subchapter if its operations affect commerce, or if discrimination or segregation by it is supported by State action:
(1) any inn, hotel, motel, or other establishment which provides lodging to transient guests, other than an establishment located within a building which contains not more than five rooms for rent or hire and which is actually occupied by the proprietor of such establishment as his residence;
(2) any restaurant, cafeteria, lunchroom, lunch counter, soda fountain, or other facility principally engaged in selling food for consumption on the premises, including, but not limited to, any such facility located on the premises of any retail establishment; or any gasoline station;
(3) any motion picture house, theater, concert hall, sports arena, stadium or other place of exhibition or entertainment; and
(4) any establishment
(A)
(i) which is physically located within the premises of any establishment otherwise covered by this subsection, or
(ii) within the premises of which is physically located any such covered establishment, and
(B) which holds itself out as serving patrons of such covered establishment.
(c) Operations affecting commerce; criteria; “commerce” defined
The operations of an establishment affect commerce within the meaning of this subchapter if
(1) it is one of the establishments described in paragraph (1) of subsection (b) of this section;
(2) in the case of an establishment described in paragraph (2) of subsection (b) of this section, it serves or offers to serve interstate travelers of a substantial portion of the food which it serves, or gasoline or other products which it sells, has moved in commerce;
(3) in the case of an establishment described in paragraph (3) of subsection (b) of this section, it customarily presents films, performances, athletic teams, exhibitions, or other sources of entertainment which move in commerce; and
(4) in the case of an establishment described in paragraph (4) of subsection (b) of this section, it is physically located within the premises of, or there is physically located within its premises, an establishment the operations of which affect commerce within the meaning of this subsection. For purposes of this section, “commerce” means travel, trade, traffic, commerce, transportation, or communication among the several States, or between the District of Columbia and any State, or between any foreign country or any territory or possession and any State or the District of Columbia, or between points in the same State but through any other State or the District of Columbia or a foreign country.
(d) Support by State action
Discrimination or segregation by an establishment is supported by State action within the meaning of this subchapter if such discrimination or segregation
(1) is carried on under color of any law, statute, ordinance, or regulation; or
(2) is carried on under color of any custom or usage required or enforced by officials of the State or political subdivision thereof; or
(3) is required by action of the State or political subdivision thereof.
(e) Private establishments
The provisions of this subchapter shall not apply to a private club or other establishment not in fact open to the public, except to the extent that the facilities of such establishment are made available to the customers or patrons of an establishment within the scope of subsection (b) of this section.


The idea behind civil rights laws, is to make illegal almost any meaningful economic activity which is tied to race discrimination. They can do it for White ball game food vendors, they can do it for employment, they can do it for rentals, and if they wanted to they could pass a new law to make this forum provide "equal access" to non-Whites tomorrow under the aegis of "interstate commerce." The First Amendment only protects what the powerful say it does. When Kennedy sent out the federalized national guard to compel desegregation, and the state governors of the south blinked, he showed who was more powerful: the forces of Jewry and their integrationist allies, and who was less powerful: the forces of White freedom.

But we've lived for 40 years with this insane integrationist regime in charge, and we aint dead yet. With life there is hope.