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Alex Linder
December 1st, 2003, 02:23 PM
A Party of Our Own
by Michael Polignano
The majority of Americans are White.
The majority of White Americans do not support more immigration, especially non-White immigration, and they want our present immigration laws enforced. But still America is flooded by massive legal and illegal immigration. Neither the Republicans nor the Democrats are interested in protecting and advancing
the interests of White Americans. Both parties instead cater to the ethnic
special interests of Jews and non-Whites, forcing the White majority to foot the bill.
The majority of White Americans do not believe in “Affirmative Action” and other programs that give education and employment to non-Whites at the expense of Whites. But such programs continue.
Why? Because neither the Republicans nor the Democrats are interested in protecting and advancing the interests of White Americans. Both parties instead cater to the ethnic special interests of Jews and non-Whites, forcing the White majority to foot the bill.
Democrats see a clear political advantage in such policies, since an overwhelming percentage of Jews and non-Whites vote for Democrats.
The Republicans, however, sacrifice White interests as a matter of sacred principle. The Republicans enjoy power only because of White voters, especially White male voters. But they bend over forwards and backwards to appeal to Jews and non-Whites who hardly ever vote for them anyway.
Not only do the major parties take the White majority for granted, they label Whites who object to their anti-White agenda and wish to protect White ethnic interests as “racists.” Yet when Jews and non-Whites pursue their ethnic interests openly, we’re told such pursuits are a blessing of “diversity,” America’s greatest strength (or so they say). Republicans oppose Affirmative
Action not because it harms the interests of the White people who vote for them, but because of a rosy vision of an individualistic, “color-blind” meritocracy. And if they mention ethnic interests at all, it is only to lament how Affirmative Action leads people to discount the achievements of genuinely talented non-Whites.
I am sure a substantial number of White people in the Republican Party are racially conscious to some extent. They occasionally even propose policies to advance White interests. But they feel they must cloak all such proposals in universalistic rhetoric.
It is absurd that in a democratic republic no political party will openly fight for the interests of the majority. It is amazing that no ambitious political leader has stepped forward to represent the majority. That’s why it’s time to form a White People’s Party.
Free-marketers defend freedom of association, but not because it would allow Whites to exclude non-Whites from their living and working spaces. Instead, they talk about the universal rights of all featherless bipeds. And when they mention ethnic interests at all, they argue that the market would work against racism, not for it.
It must be hard to fight for something that you are afraid to name, because all this clever, under-the-radar advocacy of White interests never really makes much headway. It does, however, keep racially conscious Whites voting for a party that continually betrays them. Maybe that’s all it is ever meant to do.
It is absurd that in a democratic republic no political party will openly fight for the interests of the majority.
It is amazing that no ambitious political leader has stepped forward to represent the majority.
That’s why it’s time to form a White People’s Party.
The sort of party I envision would have a single goal: to protect and advance the interests of Whites in today’s multicultural, anti-White America.
The White People’s Party would pursue White interests within the present multiparty political system and the framework of the US Constitution (including the constitutional procedures for amending it).
The White People’s Party would represent the interests and pursue the support of all White people. It would set aside issues that divide Whites while seeking to unite us around the most important issue of all: our survival. Unless our survival as a race is assured, none of the issues that divide us matter anyway.
By “White people,” we mean people of European descent. If there are any questions about particular individuals we could, as a rule of thumb, ask them to demonstrate their European ancestry for at least four generations back.
The White People’s Party would not accept the membership or support of Jews and non-Whites. We would not work for their interests, and we could not expect them to sincerely work for ours.
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Alex Linder
December 1st, 2003, 02:26 PM
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Here are some concrete suggested platform points for a White People’s Party:
1. Abolishing Affirmative Action and Racial Quotas: The WPP would end all racial quotas and preferences that give non-Whites educational and economic advantages at the expense of Whites.
2. Protecting Freedom of Association: The WPP would stand for absolute freedom of association and disassociation. It would therefore abolish all so-called "anti-discrimination" laws that force people to associate with people with whom they prefer not to associate and prevent them from forming exclusive voluntary associations. If Whites wish to live in all-White neighborhoods, patronize all-White businesses, and attend all-White churches and schools, they may do so.
3. Preserving the White Majority: America grew to greatness because of an overwhelmingly White majority. But if present demographic trends continue, Whites will be a minority in America in less than 50 years. The WPP would, therefore, halt and then reverse the erosion of the White majority.
4. Ending Non-White Immigration: The WPP would end non-White immigration completely, deport all illegal non-White immigrants, and then repatriate all non-White immigrants who have arrived since 1965. If it was possible to bring them here, it will be possible to send them back.
5. Pro-White Family Policies: The WPP would promote policies that encourage Whites to have larger families and make it possible to spend more time with their children. Conversely, the WPP would make sterilization, birth control, and abortion available to non-Whites free of charge.
6. Putting American Economic Interests First: The WPP would put the economic interests of American citizens before the interests of international capital and multinational corporations. To this end, the WPP would greatly reduce income and capital gains taxes and replace the lost revenue with tariffs on imported manufactured goods. This would spur economic activity while protecting American workers.
7. An America-First Foreign Policy: The WPP would adopt a foreign policy that puts American interests first. Never again would American soldiers die for the interests of foreign peoples and multinational corporations. Currently the United States has deployed troops in more than 100 countries around the world. We have more troops guarding the border between North and South Korea than we do guarding our own border with Mexico. The WPP would bring these troops home. The US would no longer play the role of the world's policeman. In particular, the US would no longer give aid to Israel, the greatest threat to world peace, but will instead adopt a neutral stance in the Middle East. To achieve a balance of military power, the US would sell arms to Israel's neighbors.
8. Ending Foreign Influences: To prevent foreign subversion of the American government, no American would be permitted to hold dual citizenship status. White Americans who hold dual citizenship status would need to renounce the citizenship of their choice. Furthermore, since Jews are the most destructive agents of foreign influence in America today, all Jews would be stripped of American citizenship and encouraged to immigrate to Israel. Finally, no foreign national would be allowed to work in or own industries that vitally affect the national interest, including politics, law, the military, medicine, the media, teaching, banking, investment, etc.
9. Cracking Down on Crime: Since non-Whites account for a disproportionate amount of violent crime and Jews account for a disproportionate amount of white-collar and vice-related crime, the WPP would mandate racial profiling as a tool for fighting crime. The WPP would also sterilize felons convicted of violent crimes.
10. Reforming the Welfare State: A decent society provides a safety net for the unemployed, the disabled, and the elderly. Since productive people fund such programs, however, they should be reformed so as not to overly burden the productive. The WPP would also abolish all programs designed simply to redistribute income for the purpose of forced equality. The WPP would, furthermore, disqualify people from voting while on public assistance.
11. Encouraging Self-Employment: Self-employed people are freer to speak their minds and be active citizens. Therefore, the WPP would adopt policies to increase the number of self-employed people.
12. Protecting Freedom of Speech: The WPP would protect freedom of speech and thought by abolishing all so-called "hate-crimes" laws, which seek to criminalize thought. The WPP would also break up mass media conglomerates that control and distort the free flow of information.
13. Reforming Education: The WPP would end all forced school integration, which retards the education of White children by putting less-intelligent non-Whites in their classes. The WPP would also end all race-based college admissions policies and adopt a strict meritocracy. Furthermore, the WPP would require that all colleges and universities that receive federal funds and have endowments sufficient to cover the cost of education to abolish tuition and admit students purely on the basis of merit. The best universities in the country should educate the brightest, not the richest and best-connected. Finally, the WPP would, out of considerations of national security and competitiveness, severely curtail the policy of educating foreign nationals in American universities.
14. Ensuring Voter and Juror Quality: Stupid and ignorant voters lower the quality of public decision-making. Stupid and ignorant jurors cause miscarriages of justice. The WPP would, therefore, require that all prospective voters/jurors pass tests measuring their intelligence and education.
15. Gun Control: Whites are far more likely than non-Whites—particularly Blacks, Amerindians, and Mestizos—to use guns responsibly. Therefore, the WPP would ensure the freedom of Whites to own guns while restricting the freedom of non-Whites.
These are just suggestions, but they give some idea of the platform a White People’s Party would have. This platform is not consistently conservative, liberal, or libertarian. But it is consistently pro-White. The White People’s Party would be most accurately characterized as “populist,” but it is not for “the people” in general, only White people.
A political party is not something to be proposed lightly. There are many more issues to be discussed: How would such a party be organized? What would its electoral strategy be? What about “ideology”? How would a White People’s Party relate to other pro-White organizations? How would it handle political issues not directly relevant to White survival? And, of course, there are many questions that have not even occurred to me. (That’s where you come in.)
I want to explore all these questions in future articles.
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Alex Linder
December 1st, 2003, 02:30 PM
A Party of Our Own - Part II
by Michael Polignano
In my last article, I proposed the formation of a White People’s Party to protect and advance the interests of Whites within the present political system. I also proposed some planks for a White People’s Party platform.
I received many letters responding to my proposal. All were friendly, most were supportive, and a few were critical. I wish to respond to some of those criticisms here.
The Ideology Question
As I see it, a White People’s Party should not be for liberalism, conservatism, socialism, capitalism, nationalism, libertarianism, environmentalism, or any other “ism.” It should only be for the interests of White people, and none of these ideologies are consistently pro-White.
Some think that a pro-White political party requires more than a platform of concrete proposals. They think that it requires its own ideology, a statement of general philosophical principles, an abstract world-view.
I find this idea quite seductive, because I am very interested in political ideologies. But in the end, I think it would be a mistake to base a White People’s Party on an abstract ideology. Instead, a White People’s Party should merely propose concrete measures that serve White interests and show how all the other parties betray them.
There are several reasons for this.
First, none of the major parties has an official ideology, and a political party that tries to sell a whole ideology would be regarded with suspicion by most Americans, who would see it as somehow “foreign.”
Second, it’s far easier to get people to accept the simple idea of protecting White interests than to accept an entire raft of ideological tenets.
Third, more people can agree on a concrete platform than on an abstract world-view. Just consider the different ideologies represented in the pro-White movement today. What little co-operation there is would disappear if all White Nationalists first had to be neo-Confederates, or Odinists, or National Socialists.
Fourth, the opponents of a White People’s Party would naturally prefer to steer political debate away from specific policies that affect the interests of White people. They would prefer to “refute” these policies by linking them in the public mind to unsavory personalities and ideas, and there is no reason to make their job easier.
Fifth, a White People’s Party whose only fixed principle is “to defend White interests in today’s America” could serve as a “Big Tent” for all manner of pro-White individuals and organizations. Currently, the pro-White movement consists of numerous groups and organizations espousing sharply contrasting ideological tenets. A White People’s Party that does not address deeper ideological or philosophical questions, but instead offers a concrete pro-White platform, would not seek to challenge or replace currently existing pro-White organizations, but it could provide a common ground for cooperative effort.
The Utopianism Question
Some of my critics seem to be utopians. Now, I find utopias seductive, particularly those of my critics. Utopias are seductive precisely because they are so different from present day reality. But they are problematic for the very same reason: it is hard to get there from here.
One of my critics, for instance, was dismayed that my suggested platform contained nothing about sending all non-Whites somewhere else. Another said that a political party was undesirable, because the whole democratic system is undesirable and should be replaced with some sort of aristocracy. It is helpful to have a utopian vision of an ideal society. It can serve as a lodestar for navigating the stormy seas of politics. But when one decides not to sail by one’s lodestar, but instead to sail to it, then it becomes worse than useless;
it becomes a danger and a distraction.
But in today’s world, these proposals are political non-starters, and if you are not willing to start with anything less, then there is no point to starting political activity at all. The only thing one can do is day-dream about scenarios of economic collapse, race war, and violent revolution, for perhaps then such proposals would have a chance.
But I would like to do something in the meantime.
I think it is helpful to have a utopian vision of an ideal society. It can serve as a lodestar for navigating the stormy seas of politics. But when one decides not to sail by one’s lodestar, but instead to sail to it, then it becomes worse than useless; it becomes a danger and a distraction.
Human beings have very little power to control events. Thus I do not view political activity as utopia-building. Instead, its aim is to take steps, in the here and now, to stop the social trends that, in time, will destroy the White race and to set in motion new trends that will preserve it.
There is no way of predicting what form society will take after such policies are allowed to work for a couple of generations. But I am certain that measures that seem utopian today may well seem politically possible and desirable after fifty years of pro-White policies.
The important thing is to begin now, while there is still a White majority and while we still have the freedom to speak and organize. Groups calling for an overthrow of the Constitution have always been subject to government infiltration and persecution, and in the age of the PATRIOT Act, things will only get worse.
Thus it is imperative for Whites to pursue their collective interests within the present political system and constitutional framework. (Fortunately, the Constitution contains provisions for its amendment.) As long as the First Amendment still has weight in the legal system, we must do everything we can within the law to advance our interests.
Revolutionary measures are legitimate only when a system prohibits peaceful change.
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Alex Linder
December 1st, 2003, 02:31 PM
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The Jewish Question
My platform was criticized for being impractical and utopian for explicitly excluding Jews from the party and for advocating their removal from the United States. I hesitated some time over these proposals. But in the end, I decided that they are among the most fundamental practical proposals in the whole platform, fundamental because if these planks were removed, the whole party would be pointless.
The idea of admitting Jews to a party fighting against their interests is preposterous. Not that they wouldn’t join. Indeed, they would join in large numbers if allowed. They would donate large sums of money. They would use their skills as persuaders, schemers, and swindlers to make themselves indispensable. They would rise rapidly to leadership positions. Then they would sabotage the whole thing. Any organization that does not explicitly exclude Jews will end up being dominated and subverted by them. No sense letting them put their noses under the tent.
That is why Jews have to leave America. They dominate the leading institutions of our culture: the political parties, the news and entertainment media, the arts, the education system, banking and finance. And they subvert these institutions to pursue Jewish interests at the expense of White interests. They are not the sole cause of America’s problems, but they are a major cause, and there is no way to save this country without first taking them on. I would be the biggest
Zionist in the world if Jews would actually go to Israel. But they won’t go as long as they can exploit dual citizenship status. A White People’s Party would end
that status and send them slouching towards Bethlehem.
I am not accusing Jews of “dual loyalties.” There is no such thing. Whenever the allegedly dual objects of loyalty conflict, one wins out in the end. Whenever Jewish and American interests conflict, Jews invariably choose Jewish interests, and White Americans are left paying the bill, often with their lives.
Jews don’t have dual loyalties, but they do have (officially or unofficially) “dual citizenships,” and they take full advantage of them to exploit their host countries for Jewish advantage. Now that Jews have their own state, it is time to end the charade that they can be loyal citizens of anything other than the Jewish collective. I would be the biggest Zionist in the world if Jews would actually go to Israel. But they won’t go as long as they can exploit dual citizenship status. A White People’s Party would end that status and send them slouching towards Bethlehem.
"You can't win."
In the long run, we’ll have to win. But in the short run, yes, a White People’s Party will suffer many electoral defeats. It is, however, a mistake to measure the success of a political party solely in terms of victories at the polls. A White People’s Party can do a great deal of good even if it never wins an election.
First of all, a White People’s Party will educate the public about how the system caters to Jews and non-Whites at the expense of the White majority.
Two pictures from the Le Pen rally. Click on the picture to toggle.
Second, a White People’s party, by standing frankly and unapologetically for White interests, will encourage and embolden White resistance to the multicultural society.
Third, to sustain itself through many electoral defeats, a White People’s Party would have to become the nucleus for a new pro-White community. I caught a glimpse of such a community in September of 2001, when a generous friend made it possible for me to go to Paris to attend the Fête des Bleu-Blanc-Rouge, the annual rally of Jean-Marie Le Pen’s Front National. There I saw thousands of French people of all ages, regions, classes, and walks of life drawn together to celebrate and defend who they are. Such community-building activities are valuable even if a party never wins an election.
Fourth, a White People’s Party may not win an election, but it can cause the Republicans to lose them. In a close race, if a White People’s Party were to poll only one or two percent of the vote, it could defeat the Republicans. If the White People’s Party were simultaneously to field candidates in close congressional districts across the nation, it could decimate the Republicans’ congressional delegation. This would force the Republicans to cater to White voters in the next election cycle. If the Republicans fail to do so, the White People’s Party will continue to grow, eventually to the point where it can win elections outright. Either way, Whites will benefit.
I would like to reflect more on election strategies in a future article. In brief, I think that a White People’s Party should begin by focusing on effecting change on the local and state level, trying to bypass the national government as much as possible. It seems to me, for instance, far more likely that a White People’s Party could amend the Constitution through the state legislatures than through Congress.
"You can't avoid divisiveness."
I think that a White People’s Party should adopt the strategy of shelving all political issues that divide Whites to pursue the most important issue of all: our survival.
But if party members are elected, they will be called upon to vote on many issues where Whites are divided. Would a White People’s Party simply abstain from most political debates? Surely the voters would quickly find that intolerable. But the party could not allow its representative simply to vote their consciences either. It would have to take stands on divisive questions. Do we support limited government or pro-White social services? Do we support the environment if doing so conflicts with White workers’ interests?
I think that this is an excellent objection, and I am not sure how to answer it. As I see it, the goal of a White People’s party is not to answer or obviate all the political questions that divide Whites. Instead, it is to create a society in which all the political controversies that divide us remain live issues. It is just that the debates will be between Whites about what is in the best interest of Whites. If we could just bring that to pass, it would be progress enough for me.
"You'll be smeared as Nazis or Klansmen."
The party I propose would not be affiliated with any other pro-White group, including National Socialist and Klan groups. We would neither endorse nor condemn such groups, and we would gladly accept their support, as we would gladly accept the support of all pro-White individuals and organizations.
It is hard enough to persuade people that the White race is in danger and that Whites must rally to protect themselves. It would be harder still to combat more than a century of lies about the Civil War and Reconstruction, and more than half a century of lies about the Third Reich and World War II. Fortunately, it is not necessary.
But we’ll still be smeared as Nazis and Klansmen. Our enemies will call us every name in the book. But, unlike conservative and libertarian cowards, we’ll make no special effort to avoid or refute such smears. Such efforts are pointless, because our enemies will not be concerned with justice or accuracy. Besides, those who hesitate to defend ideas merely because they are shared by unfashionable individuals clearly lack courage and conviction.
Our standard response to all attempts to discredit us in the public mind by linking us to Nazis, the KKK, and other demonized groups would be: “To the extent that Nazis and Klansmen support our pro-White agenda, that is to their credit.” We will never apologize for pursuing what is right and good. American civilization cannot be maintained by replacing Whites with non-Whites anymore than poodles can replace sheepdogs and Chihuahuas can replace sled dogs. Racism is an objective and enlightened viewpoint, and we will not apologize for it.
"You'll be smeared as racists."
Of course we will. We are racists. But we do not regard this as a smear, but as a badge of honor. Race is real. Different races are genetically capable of different ways of life, just as different breeds of dog are genetically capable of different ways of life. American civilization cannot be maintained by replacing Whites with non-Whites anymore than poodles can replace sheepdogs and Chihuahuas can replace sled dogs. Racism is an objective and enlightened viewpoint, and we will not apologize for it.
“You’ll be smeared as White Supremacists.”
Again, this is no smear, but a badge of honor. America ruled by and for Whites was a great nation. America ruled by and for Jews and non-Whites is a nation in decline. A White People’s Party will restore American greatness by restoring, perfecting, and perpetuating White supremacy.
"But what about the non-Whites?"
I was genuinely surprised to receive this question. In my eyes, there is no honor and no credit in concerning oneself with the interests of other races. They can look out for themselves. The White People’s Party is not interested in non-Whites and Jews. They have the Democratic party, the Republican party, the Libertarian party, the Reform party, and every other institution in our society looking out for their interests. We are interested only in looking out for White people. That’s the whole point.
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Alex Linder
December 1st, 2003, 02:49 PM
Meet, Eat, and Move Forward
by Michael Polignano
1 December 2003
In the spring of 1999, during my freshman year at Emory University, I received a package. I knew it contained a copy of David Duke's My Awakening, which I had purchased off Amazon.com a week or so earlier. Before opening it, I made sure I was alone in my dorm room, because of the oppressive atmosphere of Political Correctness on campus. Earlier that year, a friend had been kicked out of his dormitory for jokingly teasing his roommate (also a friend of mine) by putting up a picture of two attractive women outside their room with a dialog box saying "Too bad you're gay, S--." The lesbian couple in charge of the hall saw it, took offense, reported it, and after a "hearing" my friend was barred from university housing. The reason cited was that his actions "created an uncomfortable environment for gays and lesbians." Of course nobody cared that the whole affair created an uncomfortable environment for me and anyone else with politically incorrect thoughts: that was the whole point. Thus I knew I had to be extremely careful while exploring the race question to avoid the same fate.
Once alone, I ripped open the package like a child at Christmas. I quickly examined the contents of the book and immediately knew I was in for a good read. Yet oddly enough, I hesitated to begin. I wondered if I was committing a great evil by even daring to consider "racist" and "anti-Semitic" ideas. I dismissed this thought as wildly irrational, but even then I took great care to insure no one else knew what I was reading. I felt that I would be shunned and denounced, even by close friends, for displaying an interest in alternative viewpoints.
Shortly after my column on race, IQ, and crime appeared during my junior year, I was contacted by several local sympathizers who saw the coverage of the race forum on the local news. When I arranged to meet with one, a lawyer and longtime racial activist, I was still extremely cautious about how I treated the race/intelligence issue, being accustomed to the scripted disgust showed by many at Emory at the very suggestion that racial differences in intelligence have a genetic origin. So I avoided discussion of the political and social implications of Arthur Jensen's research, sticking instead to defending it on its scientific merit.
After talking for several minutes, it became clear that my concern was unfounded, for this man spoke frankly about not only race, but also about political issues like Duke's campaigns for public office in Louisiana, as well as the Jewish question. I can't describe how exhilarated I felt when I learned I could speak with complete frankness with my soon-to-be friend.
I had, of course, discussed these issues with people online, and I had even met some like-minded people in person about an hour outside of Atlanta. But I never knew anyone who lived close by who shared my views on racial matters, and unconsciously I thought everywhere within a ten-mile radius of Emory was hostile territory as far as the truth about race was concerned.
It's amazing that such brainwashing and intimidation can occur in a supposedly free country, but I'm certain many readers can readily identify with how I felt during my path to racial awareness, and the feeling of liberation upon finding like-minded others.
All things equal, online friends are a poor substitute for real-world friends. Until one meets online friends in person, one always wonders if they are for real. Shared ideas are only one part of friendship, and the other character traits that play a role cannot be easily discerned through a computer screen.
The benefits of establishing face-to-face communities are many: friendship, education, networking, etc. Above all, however, is the psychological benefit of having one's own heartfelt beliefs affirmed by others.
Even independent thinkers can benefit from such affirmation, since no one enjoys social isolation. Regardless of how logical and well-considered one's opinions are, if one is alone in holding them one feels unfulfilled on a deep subconscious level. At best, such feelings fester into misanthropy. At worst, they lead to depression. I have experienced both, and neither is healthy.
It is relatively easy to establish a network of like-minded friends through online message boards and instant messenger services. Such virtual communities can be helpful for discussing ideas and feeling somewhat less alienated. Online contacts can also be a prelude to in-person encounters, especially when discovering people who live close by.
But all things equal, online friends are a poor substitute for real-world friends. Until one meets online friends in person, one always wonders if they are for real. Shared ideas are only one part of friendship, and the other character traits that play a role cannot be easily discerned through a computer screen.
The Atlanta lawyer I met introduced me to a group he referred to as the "Tuesday Night Club." Jokingly, he called it the "Hate Group." The group met weekly in a private dining room at a local restaurant. Typically between 5-20 people showed up. They were a rather impressive group. All of them were well-read, well-spoken, and deeply concerned about our race and its problems. Most of them were remarkably accomplished as well. There were a number of lawyers, several successful businessmen, a doctor, a couple of Ph.D.s, and so forth. Although there were lively differences of opinion, all agreed on the basics of racial difference and on the need for radical change in public policy.
I admire the hard work and dedication of those who have created virtual White communities on the internet, through news sites, broadcasts, and discussion forums. But I would like to encourage Whites to take the next step: forming face-to-face communities, and a weekly dinner and discussion group is one excellent model to follow.
The Tuesday Night Club was not an activist group, although many of its members are very active in the pro-White cause. Instead, it was what Tom Metzger satirizes as a "meet, eat, and retreat" group. Primarily we just talked. Usually the appointed "Hate Master" would pose a question to mull over while we read the menu and enjoyed side conversations. Then, after the food appeared, we would go around the table and each person would give his or her take on the topic.
Sometimes the meetings were depressing. Admit it: there is a lot to be depressed about. But I always came away better informed and with new and often improved perspectives. The meetings also served as a stepping stone to radicalize more moderate individuals who see America's racial problems but aren't sure what to do about it. I also appreciated the chance to practice my public speaking in front of a friendly audience. And, on a deeper psychological level, all the meetings were positive just because they were a genuine, face-to-face community.
I admire the hard work and dedication of those who have created virtual White communities on the internet, through news sites, broadcasts, and discussion forums. But I would like to encourage Whites to take the next step: forming face-to-face communities, and a weekly dinner and discussion group is one excellent model to follow.
MICHAEL POLIGNANO
Alex Linder
December 1st, 2003, 03:03 PM
It is good to see young men just out of school figuring out the jew's game, and that there is no way within the system to fight it. No party can be built that does not explicitly promote White interests and explicitly name the jew the enemy, that is certainly correct. There must be utter, spitting rejection of the terror terms secreted by the Propasphere. These terms must be countered with our own. We must always frame the issues from the White perspective, and never yield to the jew in nomenclature, morality, or anything else.
As Tip O'Neill said, and implicit in Polignano's latest, all politics is local. You need to know people in your own area who think White, and work with them to the maximum extent possible. We're all familiar with the libertarian gal's comment that we're between times right now: too early to shoot the bastards, too late to work within the system. As always, we must do everything we can, and work to expand our range, legally and every other way. That means improving our personal abilities, dropping out of the buy-watch culture. Growing our own, including children. Having kids and stable marriages is probably the most revolutionary thing that can be done by White men today, provided they take control of their children's Bildung, as the Germans say: education, but in the context of character formation.
It is the purpose of VNN and VNN Forum to allow these like minds to find one another. And to build real-world groups. Polignano is quite correct in saying that although the 'Net is good, real-world is better. We must meet and work with Whites, and grow from there.
A. Linder
Derrick Beukeboom
December 1st, 2003, 08:20 PM
First off, thank you Michael for an excellent essay. Your basic point is correct - we can only get so far with online/virtual activism and discussion.
Alex, as is usual, you provide some excellent points. I sometimes think of you as our very own 'Golden Child'. Almost everything you write gives me hope for our future. I am always smiling and nodding along with what you write. Alex, thank heavens you are onour side.
Now, let me add my thoughts on these essays.
It must be step one to exclude the Jews from any such White Political Party.
I'm sure 95% of the people who read this will know all too well as to why. If anyone out there has his/her doubts about this action, just hang around a while longer.
Again, the one thing that connects the pieces of the puzzle together are the Jews - period, end of discussion.
A WPP should state in clear terms what and why this or that will advance the interests of Whites in America. I've become a big believer in the thesis of one-thrirds. 1/3 of White Americans will be aganist a WPP. Some out of their own pragmatic reasons, some dueto their religious/spiritual doctrines, some for economic reasons, some just to rationalize their own psycho-ethos that helps them make sense of this vicious world we live in. It does not matter why, but 1/3 not side with a WPP.
Another 1/3 will support us, both overtly and covertly. Some will be action oriented (most self descibed WNs' presently),some will support us but will unlikely do much more than vote for the party. This 1/3 will mostly consist of WNs' of all persuasions, blue collar/economically marginalized Whites in large cities and some populist minded current GOP 'conservatives' inclined to support isolationist economic and foreign policy initiatives. You will unlikely see much support from hardcore born agains due to their own psycho-religious doctrines that help define their own personalities. These folks are Christians first before any other thing.
The key will be the middle 1/3 - on the fence Whites. These are mostly middle class, respectable GOP voters, not overly religious, not overly successful, mostly news watching, patriotic Americans. Run of the mill masses. Suburnnites who will be skeptical of anything that makes them think too much or challenges the status quo. These masses are mediocore folks who have not suffered too much directly from the multiculti and lead comfortable lives for the most part.
It may seem hopeless with this lot, but its not.
Just trend followers for the most part - that's the good news. When you acheive a certain level of activism and package the platform in a certain way, they will sign up in droves but will remain the closet for awhile. The fundamental key will be to ILLUSTRATE to this 1/3 as to WHY a WPP is in their best interests. It may seem simply obvious at first, but remember these folks go with the prevailing flow. Marketing and illustrations are key to acheive a certain level of success with these folks.
The good news is that they are smart enough to know that basic traditional American values (read: White) have become eroded. We must show them HOW and from WHOM.
As for party specifics, Alex is right. Stay away from a traditional idelogical world view since this will only complicate matters and frustrate people who may not agree. Yet, it will be hard for Whites to resist a party sepcifically looking out for their best interests first.
Keep things simple, especially at first.
Focus on immigration, Affirmative action, forced integration and declining White populations. Poor schooling, inner city blight, corporate and government corruption and crime can also play in Peoria.
Americans generally hate freeloaders so people are fed up with nonwhite leeches who mooch off our system and welfare collectors.
The Jewish question will be the wild card as this is complex and is contrary to so much of what the masses have been taught since they were in diapers.
Questions/comments welcome.
Fenris
December 1st, 2003, 09:12 PM
This is a good topic for discussion. A third party won't work. What we need is a PAC. I'll repeat here what I e-mailed to Mike last week.
Jews didn't form a Jew Party to take over. They took over the existing parties through campaign contributions and media control sufficient to guarantee votes. Politicians came to realize that voting for or against certain things would get them support from the Jews. Those who complied were successful, those who didn't became unemployed.
Why not a party? Well, we've had the same two parties in the U.S. since 1856. Forming a new party is impossible in the absence of a political earthquake and we haven't seen that yet. This isn't Europe - here, the winner takes all the whole district, so a third party can't really get "in."
Does anyone remember how hard it was to get David Duke into Congress? Our enemies will dig up every piece of dirt possible on any candidate of a White Party, and give him endless bad press. Maybe worse than Duke got.
Let's get together with NRA types, pro-family types, and anti-immigration types and pool our money for a PAC. Send money to the Republicans or Democrats that vote most pro-white, or least anti-white. Slowly build our media, increase our contributions, vote at every opportunity, and slowly tug the politicians in our direction.
Spandau
December 1st, 2003, 09:57 PM
If I may put in my two cents worth.....I believe that any method to get our message out to the masses is valid. Party/PAC/Media etc. And I agree with Alex that a White Party should just stick to the facts and welcome all White folk as long as they don't seek to do us harm.
Das ist alles.
Dr. Mengele
December 2nd, 2003, 03:15 AM
Organized minorities can often wield decisive political power. Races these days are often close, think of the Senate race in South Dakota during the 2002 midterm elections or Bush v. Gore in Florida during 2000. The margin of victory was only a handful of votes. Roy Barnes was defeated in Georgia not too long ago because of the Confederate Flag issue. A small organized group of voters brought him down. We might not be able to win elections ourselves, but if organized properly, we have a good chance in some elections of assuring the Republicunts do not win either in lots of races. That's the way to go IMO - electoral terrorism. Its a feasible way to demonstrate political power and no one is ever going to really pay WNism any real attention until it becomes political.
Agis
December 2nd, 2003, 08:23 AM
Good points made by all. This is the only forum worth it's salt, imo. Feris is right about PACs to a certain extent. To discount their 24/7 behind the scenes bribery / influence is foolish to say the least. Politicos have sold their souls to the devil. They certainly don't care if it's you or a jew; however the jewsmedia could end the gravey train (a la Lott) and therefore most of the bootlicking bastards would consider us a "bad deal".
Which brings us back to organized mass media and a political party that could directly benefit from media promotion.
Given the two party system, we could also consider the alternative strategy of fragmenting either the Repubs/Dems as White Nationalists per the "Log Cabin" or "black caucus" models - instead of a complete break. The party would be end up being stigmatized by the "mediastream" which would give us the momentum to further purge the membership and rebuild using WN principles...
But first things first: Cash, Competence, Courage.
Glenda
December 2nd, 2003, 04:00 PM
This post was posted to the religion thread by mistake. It belongs here.
Derrick B. is correct. We must keep it simple.
Whites may seem apathetic, but they have been conditioned to NOT get what they want and so are frustrated. Perhaps they have given up on politics. I think that if they could realize that they might be able to be empowered again they might be willing to "risk" by affiliating with a new party. This party could not win in the beginning, of course, and we all know that the two-party system as it stands now is totally corrupt and sold out, but if it calls attention to all that their elected leaders are NOT doing for them and gives them an inkling that they can swing a vote that would be a big accomplishment. A very big one.
The party needs to have an emotionally charged appeal, and it should elicit a response, because White people's interests are NOT being paid attention to. They are being BETRAYED. Think of all the times you yourself have voted for someone thinking that what they said sounded good, and then things stay the same or get worse.
Betrayal is the key word. They, WE, have all been betrayed. If that could be known to them, they might trade their apathy for anger.
Randolph
December 2nd, 2003, 05:58 PM
For any white political party to be sucessful, we have to have a better understanding of the science of economics.
We also ned to have a better understanding of the state and its proper role in society.
We have a golden opportunity to affect change.
One: No political party. We will succeed better with a Trojan Horse strategy.
Two: There is really no such thing as "white interests." Who is to decide for the white people? Do you people really want to see our race become like the niggers with Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson? The only thing that is required to uphold white interest is the use of peer pressure or boycott.
Three: Use value neutral language in advocating change. Most "white" leaders today are a damn joke being out front as racists. All they are going to do is turn away those who would have fought for the cause if the issue was presented properly.
I have personally known a few politicians who, behind the scenes, protected white interests without letting anyone know about their feelings about blacks. The key is to be low-keyed and make damn good arguments for your cause. Being out front is just being damn stupid at the moment.
Alex Linder
December 2nd, 2003, 07:22 PM
No reason party and PAC are opposed. Both could be done. Infiltration is fine, but I prefer overt, loud, obnoxious, repetitive, public, and in-your-face. I'd rather send my money to someone naming the jews and explaining the problem than to Pat Buchanan and hoping he was speaking in code. And then feeling like a used fool when he picked a nigger running mate. Fenris says something about a landslide -- well, jeezuz, if there ever was a cause for a political revolution, this is it, huh? America doesnt need a third party, it needs a second party. And that party must be White. Hell, call it the Hate Party. I'd sign up in a minute. What I want, and believe many others want, is people saying what they read on VNN in public. Giles did a very good job in the speech I heard. But I want something even more inflammatory. Utterly aggressive, unashamed, unembarrassed, unforgiving, no-quarter -- an Al Sharpton for White people. I don't want people naming the jew as though it were some inevitable duty, like eating your vegetables, but a glorious call to reclaim mastery over the land our people built. We should directly appeal to the heroic in people. Our reasons are secondary. We must go after the young, and inspire them to join our cause. Because it is hard. Because it is noble. Because it is right. If we try to figure out what people want and give it to them, we're lost. That's just like appealing to women. What we need to do is lead. Say here's where we're going. Join us. We know going in we will be smeared by jews regardless of our wording or crudeness or genteelness. The System defines our views as illegitimate, and the media are part of the System. Anybody who thinks he can slick this is a fool. That doesn't mean one should necessarily be crude -- crudeness is a gift that doesn't light on everybody, after all -- but it does mean one should go for the marrow: pull people with emotions. Emotions are stronger than reason. It so happens that reason is in our corner, and 1001 White sites document our case, but our appeal must be instinctive: 1) something is deeply wrong with the country; 2) we heroic Whites are going to reclaim our legacy. JOIN US. We need to show the people something "ganz anders," something radically new that blows their minds. We need to quit worrying about our hair and makeup on camera, and worry about getting behind the yid and pulling the plug, or blowing up 30 Rock, so to speak. As the Italians say, eating makes appetite, and the people don't know they're hungry because no one is feeding them. We're right. We don't need to quibble, we need to drive forward as powerfully as possible. Right now we need an organization. I don't know the form. I have asked lawyers regarding PACs and parties, but I have no information back yet.
The problem we have at the moment is that we are divided into two camps. The respectables, who think we can nice our way out by copying the minorities with their civil rights groups, and the radicals, who are, to too great an extent, comparatively resourceless working class folks or out-and-out lumpenbums. The former will not publicly associate with the latter, and until they give up the illusion that the jews will let them climb the latter they set out for black destroyers, we'll continue in the same direction. What must happen is some kind of crystallization. I've done that intellectually as best I can. But now it needs to become real. We need lots of lawyers and some money to take the next step: build an organization that can fight legally and politically. An organization with an overtly military arm that can in time put physical pressure on our jewish oppressors. The jews need to fear us physically. That is when the tide will turn in our favor. They call me a nazi, but I'm not. I believe that the individual is important, but the context, the community, is more important. And anything that threatens the hive is more important than the individual ant. We need a dictatorship that can handle our racial problems, and no need to be ashamed to declare this. Not a totalitarian autocrat, but a dictator who does not allow the race to be destroyed because some businessman makes money that way. Beneath that, I'm an American: I like the freedoms affirmed in the constitution: a country where you MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS. But not a country where business is what the country's all about. Economically we should follow a policy of scourging the NWO elite selling out the country, and on the flip side, we should push a very low flat tax for funding national government. People would prefer a safe, freeish America in which they can live out of their neighbor's pocket. But second best is a safe, freeish America where the tax rates are low enough they can keep the money they make, and improve their physical circumstances. So our party should push repeal of White slavery: physical, economic, and moral.
Hate Party will not allow:
black and brown criminals to destroy our people, rape our women.
burrocrats to force us to work half our hours to line their pockets.
jews to portray the descendants of the white males who built America as evil bad guys.
these should be pushed politically. and at the same time, we need some men with military background and brains to organize men into squads capable of dealing retribution to our enemies -- violent colored predators, the jews who loosed them on us, and the white race traitors who accede in this nasty business because it feathers their nest.
Mike Polignano
December 2nd, 2003, 07:29 PM
Thanks, Alex, for getting this thread started as well as for putting my most recent column on VNN's front page. I'm also very pleased with the quality of posts I've read on VNNForum so far.
I strongly oppose the idea of forming a PAC or attempting a trojan horse strategy.
First, we don't have the money to influence the major parties. We cannot compete with Jewish capital in this regard.
The "log cabin" and "black caucus" models only work because they're groups that don't oppose Jewish interests; on the contrary, they support Jewish interests by opposing the heterosexual White majority.
Sure, starting a new party is going to cost a lot as well, but far less than attempting to buy politicians.
Second, even if we had the money, we don't want to have to depend on bought politicians. They're scum, pure and simple. Sure, there might be a handful who "protect" White interests, "behind the scenes," and "without letting anyone know." But as soon as the controlled media accuses any such politician of doing so, it's virtually guaranteed that he'll stab us in the back and go running for cover. I'm sick to death of such displays of cowardice. I'm sick to death of Trent Lotts and Jim Morans.
We need politicians who love the people they are fighting for, not politicians who will turn their backs on the people as soon as someone comes along with a better offer.
The reason the Jews are so fearful of us, particularly White media sites like VNN, is that they know no one loves them (i.e. Jews); rather, they have to rely on purchased support. They know their game is up if they have to face an organized opposition founded on racial principles.
The reason so many Whites are scared to support us isn't because White leaders are out openly as racists. It's because racism isn't seen by most as an objective, enlightened point of view. It's slandered as being the point of view of slobs, bigots, and trailer trash. Our opponents attempt to discredit us through association, rather than disputing the facts.
By getting the facts out there and defending them openly, honestly, and directly, the stigma associated with racism will fade.
Additionally, like Glenda says, a WPP would also have an emotionally charged appeal. People will be much more likely to support a party deemed "racist" by the mass media once they realize the extent to which they have been betrayed. They WILL "trade their apathy for anger."
Third, we don't want to alienate potential supporters by aligning ourselves with conservative principles. It's true that a large number of White nationalists are ex-Republicans and ex-conservatives (myself included). Yet living out here in the Bay Area I can definitely tell you that there are plenty of leftists who are just as fed up with the NWO and with Jewish power as we are.
Yes, leftists oppose them for different reasons than we do. But some can be brought around to our way of thinking, particularly if they see us as revolutionaries rather than conservatives...see my "What We Can Learn From Leftists" (http://www.michaeljpolignano.com/24OCT03.html#editorial) column.
"Itz coming", and they're scared.
Alex Linder
December 2nd, 2003, 09:34 PM
Glad to see you joined in, Mike, excellent essays.
I agree that infiltration is not likely to work. Better to build national prominence and real power, which will have the effect of creating infiltrators as people already in positions of power (cops, lawyers, burocrats, etc.) come to accept our views. We Aryans are generally not jewish enough to pull off jewish tactics. We lack the money and media, too.
I disagree with the idea we need value-neutral language. That's throwing away our big weapon: the absolutely outrageous betrayal of our race by white traitors and the jews who suborned them. Sam Adams didn't use value neutral language. He encouraged Americans to hate and throw off the British oppressor. He described revolution as lighting brushfires in men's minds. This is what we must do in White minds, light them on fire against the guilty yid. I disagree that facts alone will win out. What will bring people over is the gut instinct that we mean what we say.
There's a great focus in our jew-produced culture on what is "real." People will do anything to affect it. We are real. That is our unique selling point. We offer an honest-to-God real alternative to the System. We offer something hard and true and worthy of ultimate dedication -- beating-heart life, not just money and time.
Alex Linder
December 2nd, 2003, 09:44 PM
People are cynical because the jews have taught them that nothing is real, everything is presentation, manipulation, and spin. Not just obvious things like the dessicated jew "Kerry" cool-guying it onto Leno on his moped, but mass sporting events are manipulated through refereeing just the way our border invasion is allowed, no matter the rules or democratic desires of the people.
But people want to believe. Yes, they want to be pandered to, but they also want the shit kicked out of them. They are women. You can inspire them like JFK, or browbeat them like RFK, and they like it. They respond. This is what we need. Carrot and stick. Appeal to their glory and honor. We say:
1) Come with me, young white man, and take back the country.
2) What kind of man are you, who allows a fifty-year-old shitskin convicted felon to rape and murder a young white girl?
Goad their cowardice, tweak their honor -- above all, GET THEM MOVING.
Emotion is where it is at, completely. As long as it is backed up by professional organization. That is where the lawyers and the administrators come in. I ASSUME the heroic working-class guts. I know these guys will respond to the call. But the goddam middle-class brains people have to be there to lead them. Getting these people in position has been the most difficult task over the last three years. It is a good sign that increasing numbers of Polignanos begin to appear. It is time indeed to make this real. News and forums and pretty words are necessary, and we need many more, but we need to begin the serious organizing now.
Day to day, we must work to erode whatever credibility the Republicans have. Hard to understand how they have any, given the last fifty years, but they still do, mostly because the people who vote for them are genetically limited to following Authority, at least to a very high threshhold of pain. We must relentlessly present ourselves as the only legitimate option. But to do that we need more than words, we need an overtly political party. Whether or not it wins elections.
Alex Linder
December 2nd, 2003, 10:04 PM
I'm against any claim that we are where we are because we have failed to manipulate the system properly. Our failing is not mechanical. And I say that as one with no predisposition to whine and blame others, but because it is objective fact. Our failure is what the system is designed to produce. The System is set up to crush any opposition to the jewish agenda. Duke is the perfect example. The "two" parties shed the mask to reveal their single ugly face as the party of jew-tooled egalitarianism. The media have shown by their actions how to treat them. Spit at them. No word you use, no suit you don, no hairstyle will make them treat you fairly.
Abuse the jew media. Don't talk to them unless you get something of value in return. The media will seldom quote you accurately. They will blunt any point you make. They will quote you out of context if that helps. They are only looking for filler to pour in their mold. Don't help them! Everytime you talk to these clowns, you're showing them respect. If they want to make money off you, then they can pay you for the privilege. Otherwise, who needs them. To claim the media are run by jews and then work with them for free -- it doesn't back up what you're saying.
We really are in the position of the Palestinians. Imagine a Palestinian thinking he can work within the jewish system. We just don't realize our position yet. The jews and their tools have shown by their actions how they deserve to be treated. Well, treat them that way.
Someone says Whites don't have interests. If they're attacked for being White, then they certainly do, whether that attack is through "affirmation action" or by coloreds on the street. Forgetting that whites have interests -- something no one doubted when it was us and the redskin savages -- and acceding in jewish moralizing against White identification today will only reinforce our third-class status.
Glenda
December 2nd, 2003, 11:06 PM
THERE'S NO REASON YOU CAN'T HAVE THE COUNTRY YOU WANT IF YOU ARE WILLING TO SUPPORT US! We are the only political party that has your interests in mind. The Democrats and Republicans have shown you over and over again that they are for the best interests of the global corporations, the people of color, the Jews, and the elite of any stripe, NOT for White people.
Do you think that would have any impact, or would that be dismissed as "hate-mongering"? No matter, if they are able to understand that they would have a chance to reclaim a civilized and just society they might go for it.
Someone I know was in China last month and said that their perception of the average Chinese person, be he a street sweeper or a tour guide, was that "they seemed to be very happy being a part of something bigger than themselves". Maybe White americans can get off their tv couches and start to feel pride again, and feel they are part of something more important than the latest sports match or tear-jerk on Oprah. Truly, American Whites are so fragmented as a group now that it would probably be a novel experience for them. I would hope for a cohesion to develop. There should be no friction between "social classes", as we're all in it together. And we can be part of something bigger than we are as individuals.
t_electric
December 3rd, 2003, 12:39 AM
Good to see folks thinking Realpolitics, for once. Caution: JOG will take a White political party or PAC down. One "questionable" campaign contribution is all it will take. Independent, White candidates running perpetual, local campaigns is the only way to go.
Derrick Beukeboom
December 3rd, 2003, 01:03 AM
Linder is correct.
There is no way to sugar coat our agenda.
No matter how you want to baby talk it, the jews and the 2 party useless goys will seek to DESTROY us.
I am tending to agree with the overall message of telectric. Our party must begin on the local level, grass roots.
Yes, we will need money and expertise and a certain level of intelligent leadership.But at the end of the day, it is up to the Whites themselves on how serious they want to buck the jew dominated system.
Don't foget the hedge betting jews. They realize that general White disenchantment will mean the end of their power play (and possibly the end of them in Amerikwa), so they will seek to barter of the growing anti-jew sentiment with more goods, some more money, some more comfort.
Don't think the jews don't think ahead.
It was only step one integrating and opening our borders to the mud peoples.
They have or should be thinking ahead.
They know full well that they can only keep the Whites in the 'kwa in a fog for only so long. Eventually, we will be calling them out, naming the jew en masse.
Hopefully, this will be happening soon.
If they can't intimidate White people to apologize and head for the hills (a la T. Lott and Jim Moran), they will covertly buy them off with power and money.
So, we do need a fair bit of radicals involved who are almost religious in their quest for White autonomy.
Let's keep in mind the obvious. The net maybe our only current tool to plan, organize and brainstorm.
We can and should also be able to raise funds and members as the Howard Dean campaign does so well.
In certain ways, we must utilize our strengths and shore up our weaknesses.
Maybe if we keep it so simple, so grounded, so basic and just hammer away ...Whites deserve a politcal party looking out for Whites.
I'm thinking we have gotten over our little stage of multiculturalism altruism. Don't think that most Whites realize we have given up too much.
Dr. Mengele
December 3rd, 2003, 01:26 AM
I disagree with the idea we need value-neutral language.
No revolutionary anywhere has ever succeeded using value-neutral language. There are plenty of American examples of this as well. You pointed out Sam Adams before, that is a good one. Patrick Henry is another example. The Southern fire-eaters like William Lowndes Yancey and Robert Barnwell Rhett who destroyed the Union also come to mind. These men appealed to emotion. They were extremists. The vitriolic rants of William Lloyd Garrison in The Liberator are the absolute best example of this. This is a man who called the U.S. Constitution “a covenant with death and an agreement with hell.”
I will be as harsh as truth, and as uncompromising as justice. On this subject, I do not wish to think, or speak, or write with moderation. No! No! Tell a man whose house is on fire, to give a moderate alarm: tell him to moderately rescue his wife from the hands of the ravisher; tell the mother to gradually extricate her babe from the fire into which it has fallen;—but urge me not to use moderation in a cause like the present. I am in earnest—I will not equivocate—I will not excuse—I will not retreat a single inch—and i will be heard.
-- William Lloyd Garrison, The Liberator, January 1, 1831
SMG3000
December 3rd, 2003, 02:21 AM
A pro-White party should never comprise on the core issues, which would include absolute sovereignty for Whites, for example. Meaning that no non-Whites can tell a White person what to do or what to think. This all requires military superiority in practice.
But, it should also work with other radical non-White groups to undermine jewish societal supremecy, such as diamond boycotts (one of those Aztlan groups is already doing that) and kosher-tax boycotts (a boycott against all foods sporting the kosher labels (The "K" or "U", etc.)
This should be called "The Anti-Zionist Alliance", a format advocated by Eric Thomson. This Alliance would have no assets to seize nor leaders to arrest/assasinate. Members of the Alliances would know what to do when opportunity arose. This differs from "Leaderless Resistance" in that members would have some kind of education in what to do from various articles and/or booklets compiled by tacticians. So they could act again Zionism without the need for a material infrastructure that could be attacked.
You need real tacticians because if members cannot distinguish a revolutionary target from a counter-revolutionary target, they harm more than they help. For example, in the Turner Diaries the characters often (foolishly) attacked the civilian sector directly, killing civilians, which works in ZOG's favor. In Eric's "The Chosen One" by contrast the revolutionaries attack gas works, railways, etc., which had a positive cumulative effect to undermine ZOG's authority and power in the eyes of the public.
Its an idea that requires more thinking and action to make real. So far, we have the logo (which anyone can use anywhere they please) :D
The logo was created by "Tsun" and there are many variations. His site is at http://wsd.matriots.com/ and you can ask for these variations.
MartinLindstedt
December 3rd, 2003, 05:14 AM
[QUOTE=Alex Linder][Polignano's "A Party of Our Own II" continued...]
The Jewish Question
My platform was criticized for being impractical and utopian for explicitly excluding Jews from the party and for advocating their removal from the United States. . . . .[AL]
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Before there can be a Platform, there has to be a political Party.
I have run for political office in Missouri since 1994, when I ran for state representative. There are 163 state representative office holders, each around 10,000 people. Missouri has the largest general assembly other than Texas. One only needs to be 24 years old and live in the district for 2 or three years. Contrast that with Governor, who needs to live in Missouri uninterrupted for 10 years. A state rep candidate can literally walk and meet personally with the voters in his entire district if he lives in any town over 10,000 population.
In 1996, I ran as the right-wing candidate for governor as a LibberToon against a closet faggot who wasn't that closeted. I was 400-500 votes down in a 2500 vote primary and I lost 900-1600 or so. I pissed off the LibberToons so much that they kicked me out of the party and had me arrested for 'trespassing' in attending my own expulsion. In 1998 I ran for U.S. Senate -- as a LibberToon.
In 2000, I ran as a Deformer candidate for U.S. Senate and was one of two candidates denounced by Pat Buchanan for racism. (The other was fellow DS Identity Richard Masker of Haydn Lake, Idaho). I lost the primary [s]election.
http://www.martinlindstedt.org/ml102500.html
In 2002, I ran as a Republikudikhan candidate against the pencil-necked NAFTA-geek Jim [No]Talent. Guess what? I lost the primary selection. But for the first time I got no media attention because No-Talent barely 'won' over Widder Minstrel-Show Mel Carnahan by 21,000 votes, three-tenths of one percent, thanks to Runt Blunt, Secretary of State keeping the KC and StL niggers from voting more than once. The Republicunts most certainly didn't want downstate working-class Whites voting for an open racist and neither did the jewsmedia.
And in 2004, I am gonna run as Martin 'Mad-Dog' Lindstedt against Runt Blunt as a Repub again, using all of the dirt I have amassed on Runt Blunt's crookedness as Secretary of State. Why, the worthless bastard wouldn't let me run as 'Mad-Dog' in 2002, plus RuntBlunt (son of Skunk Blunt, the Repub whip congress-kritter) let a former treasurer of the Reform Party steal all $4300 in the party treasury, finishing off the Reform Party of Missouri. And I am going to lose again.
However, in each of these races since 1996, I have run as a LibberToon candidate for sheriff, or county commissioner. I have done so by running my common-law wife, refunding the $50 filing fee for county offices, then when I lost the primary selection for the big shit, promptly having her withdraw, forming a nominating committee to nominate myself for the vacantcy, and then having two bites of the apple in a [s]election year. I run as many, sometimes more, candidates for Libertarian county office than the defunct Democrat party does in Newton County in SW Missouri.
The Missery LibberToons hate me. After all, I've sued and humiliated the goofy worthless bastards. They prefer to pretend that I don't exist. They can't do anything about my county committee -- after all none of them could stand to be in the same room as myself for over 10 minutes -- so I pretty much run my own political machine.
The Missouri Reform and USTP/CONstitutional Parties were finished off by the Republicans -- but the stupid whiggers 'running' [right into the ground] these parties wanted it that way. Any [White] Nationalist political party will be targeted and destroyed by the Republicans as well if it gets 'dangerous.' Thus any White Nationalist political party, certainly in Missouri, will be targeted by the Republicans scared of losing elections at the state-wide level, aided and abetted by the Dem[on]ocrats needing the false opposition.
The operating figure in Missouri to become a political party is two percent. Get 10,000 statewide validated petition signatures in a majority of the congressional districts, and one can run statewide candidates. But the way it starts is at the county level. Get two percent in a county and one can run county candidates who sign up at the county seat -- not Jefferson City, the state capital. In most counties, the best way to do that would for a Nationalist candidate to run for one of the two associate county commissioner positions. That way all one would have to get to form a new political party would be to sign up two percent of HALF of the county. In Missouri, the county is either Democrat or Republican and the other 'major' party doesn't even bother to run a candidate. The split in SW Missouri, and Newton County in particular is 70% Repub and 30% Democrat. In 2002, when I ran for Presiding Commissioner (over the entire county) the Repub incumbent got 72% of the vote, I got as a LibberToon candidate 8%, and what is funny is that the entire county knew of me and what I stood for, and 15% of the voters, Democrats mainly, absolutely refused to vote for either one of us. But at 8% -- easily attainable by anyone, especially if nobody knows about them from an unknown political party, is six percent more than the two percent needed. Usually the figure in a two-party race gets 10-15%, 5% in a three-party race. Plus, two years later, the entire county opens to the new Nationalist Party and if several state rep districts overlap, the new pro-White political party can then 'grow' tentacles into adjoining counties getting the 2%, then state senatorial districts, then state-wide. Frankly though, ZOG doesn't have that much time left.
This is grass-roots local political activism. It demands local leadership and trains that leadership. It doesn't require a sugar daddy to give it 40-50 thousand ZOG-bux from behind-the-scenes jews to get petition signatures that will dry up once perotbots or buchanan-brigands have stolen the treasury. I didn't know a tenth of the 'polytricks' starting out back in 1994 that I've learned now. Political activism also meant that I became more fanatical as well as experienced. Local grass-roots activism means that the scope for targets of opportunity expands -- it is not the Feral Bureau of Imperialism acting directly upon the dictates of ZOG which affects the majority of us, but the local piglice, judges, and city and county regimes.
Political activity is the job of the aboveground Resistance activists, not the Resistance Active Service Units or cells. One doesn't have to worry about primary elections at the county or less-than-statewide levels. Therefore, Resistance activists, other than the aboveground politicals don't have to worry about being caught asking for a primary ballot. I've never asked, since 1998, when I was running in a contested primary as a LibberToon, for a LibberToon primary ballot. What would be the point? I vote a Repulsivescam primary ballot and have my LibberToon Party county candidate vote for herself in the primary -- she isn't facing any competition. Likewise, so too with a Nationalist Party county candidate.
Insofar as local rules go, niggers and jews cannot be forbidden from running as a Resistance political party candidate. There is no rule saying that they should be made welcome. When I sued the Missouri Libertarian Party for refusing to refund my $200 filing fee as a pauper, I also sued them bastards for violating my snivel-blights. I quoted the jewpreme kort 1944 decision, Alldred vs. Smith(?) in which the Oklahoma Democrat Party wasn't allowed to keep niggers out of the Democrat primary, and said that the Missery LibberToons, a pack of nigger-loving kike-licking rump-ranging faggots had something against White Heterosexual Christian Men in general and me in particular, and the 8th j.S.S.A. Circus Kort of Appeals simply didn't give a shit.
"We also conclude that Lindstedt failed to show that some racial or other class-based
invidiously discriminatory animus lay behind the Libertarian Party's decision to expel him from the organization and to refuse to refund his filing fee."
Cf. Lindstedt v. Missouri Libertarian Party, et. al, 160 F3d 1197-1199
http://www.martinlindstedt.org/slmd1198.html
Like Tip O'Neill said, "All polytricks is local." It is. Any chance of winning will be local. Any chance of learning will be local. Any growth and the first accrual of power shall be local.
Part 1 of 2?
--Martin 'Mad-Dog' Lindstedt
Republican Candidate for Governor of Missouri -- 2004
MartinLindstedt
December 3rd, 2003, 05:19 AM
Part 2 of 2?
>[Alex Says:]"You can't win."
In the long run, we’ll have to win. But in the short run, yes, a White People’s Party will suffer many electoral defeats. It is, however, a mistake to measure the success of a political party solely in terms of victories at the polls. A White People’s Party can do a great deal of good even if it never wins an election.
>[Alex says] First of all, a White People’s Party will educate the public about how the system caters to Jews and non-Whites at the expense of the White majority.
>Second, a White People’s party, by standing frankly and unapologetically for White interests, will encourage and embolden White resistance to the multicultural society.
>Third, to sustain itself through many electoral defeats, a White People’s Party would have to become the nucleus for a new pro-White community.
>Fourth, a White People’s Party may not win an election, but it can cause the Republicans to lose them. In a close race, if a White People’s Party were to poll only one or two percent of the vote, it could defeat the Republicans. If the White People’s Party were simultaneously to field candidates in close congressional districts across the nation, it could decimate the Republicans’ congressional delegation. This would force the Republicans to cater to White voters in the next election cycle. If the Republicans fail to do so, the White People’s Party will continue to grow, eventually to the point where it can win elections outright. Either way, Whites will benefit.<
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This is especially the case. In 2000 and 2002 in Missouri the U.S. Senate seat has been 'won' by less than one half of one percent. In fact, I might have helped Ashcroft lose by talking a Springfield jew 'Republican for AlGore' into running as a Republican primary candidate against Ashcroft. He initially wanted to run as a Republican against Skunk Blunt and hoped that Bushy would choose SkunkBlunt as Veep and get a ride as a congress-kritter. When a LibberToon filed as a Repub, I asked him why he didn't run for Senator against Ashcroft as a Repub. That way, Ashcroft would be stretched out politically as road-kill during the primary season and he could peck on Ashcroft during the primary season on the left and I could peck on Ashcroft on the right as a Reform Party candidate, hopefully nominee. Thanks to Buchanan denouncing me for racism, I lost the Reform Party primary. But perhaps I turned a quarter percentage of the rural White vote to where Ashcroft lost to the dead Minstrel-Show Mel Carnahan.
We must destroy the Republican Party. We can't do anything about whigger-nigger Democrats. They are our open enemies. We must destroy our false friends by unmasking them to rural Whites. These Repubs will never be on our side until their wives and children are raped by niggers and beaners. "I have a dream . . . . of Janet Ashcroft and Laura Bush being raped by niggers . . . . . showing the coon-tent of their [racial] character!"
http://www.martinlindstedt.org/kc072700.html
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>I would like to reflect more on election strategies in a future article. In brief, I think that a White People’s Party should begin by focusing on effecting change on the local and state level, trying to bypass the national government as much as possible. It seems to me, for instance, far more likely that a White People’s Party could amend the Constitution through the state legislatures than through Congress.<
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Control the Sheriff's department, control the county korts, control the skrule board, control the tax assessment and collection, control the local power and economy, and a White political party controls the local environment to where non-whites will find it dangerous and uncomfortable to live. Screw amending the CONstipation.
Even though even this local dream is impossible -- for now -- it is necessary that a cadre of future racial warlords be trained in how to control by predominately non-violent political means the Whites while also eliminating and driving out the non-white population of their town and county.
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>"You can't avoid divisiveness."
I think that a White People’s Party should adopt the strategy of shelving all political issues that divide Whites to pursue the most important issue of all: our survival.<
Don't need to dwell in what we are FOR -- rather our elective strategy shall be what we are AGAINST -- ZOG, jew wars, non-whites, allowing such to live amongst us. We are NOT out to CREATE anything to begin with, but rather OUT TO DESTROY EVERYTHING, which is everything connected with the current criminal regime. We must ride the tidal wave of discontent. Say anything which is overtly pro-White -- we need not deliver because the jews and niggers most certainly won't be saying even that much!
I've been on LibberToon Platform committees. It ended up in chaos. LibberToons have a simple ASS Platform of Abortion, Sodomy & Smokin'-dope. They then argue endlessly about how to achieve LibberToon nirvana.
http://www.martinlindstedt.org/proxymad.html
Platforms stink because they straitjacket candidates. Let the local candidate decide what needs to be said locally, as long as it is pro-White and anti-non-white. A Nationalist candidate running in an area full of geezers can concentrate on not allowing beaners to collect SSI and a Nationalist candidate running in an area of younger Whites with children should talk about tax rebates for home-schoolers. I never paid a bit of attention to any Platform but rather printed up my own one-page, one-color folders, of which the shitheads at the state and national level bitched about.
http://www.martinlindstedt.org/ml061600.html
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>"You'll be smeared as Nazis or Klansmen."<
Not if you run for the big offices as a Republican. The jewsmedia is scared that this false opposition party will be destroyed by Whites staying at home or voting Democrat.
Secondly, there is no such thing as "bad publicity." When the Buchanan-Brigands destroyed the elected Missouri and California delegations by 'electing' on the floor to have the out-of-state non-elected Brigands vote out the congressional district electors and vote their thieving vermin in, I deliberately took advantage of Pat Buchanan's running [pri]mate Ebola-GAIDS accidently trying to enter my hotel room and told a jewspaper reporter that I was a White Separatist Christian Identity militiaman denounced by Buchanan. This reporter wrote an article making the Deformers look like a pack of schidzoid racist hypocritical kooks and put it on the front page! Thus I got my revenge.
http://www.martinlindstedt.org/ml072801.html
>"You'll be smeared as racists."
Of course we will. We are racists. But we do not regard this as a smear, but as a badge of honor. Race is real. Different races are genetically capable of different ways of life, just as different breeds of dog are genetically capable of different ways of life. American civilization cannot be maintained by replacing Whites with non-Whites anymore than poodles can replace sheepdogs and Chihuahuas can replace sled dogs. Racism is an objective and enlightened viewpoint, and we will not apologize for it.<
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Agreed. So let's make it a matter-of-fact in our campaigning. We are a White-only political party and have as much right as Jessie Jackass and Reverend Nigger Sharpton to promote our People's advantage.
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>“You’ll be smeared as White Supremacists.”
Again, this is no smear, but a badge of honor. America ruled by and for Whites was a great nation. America ruled by and for Jews and non-Whites is a nation in decline. A White People’s Party will restore American greatness by restoring, perfecting, and perpetuating White supremacy.<
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I tell such vermin that it is them that are the 'Supremacists' -- Whigger Supremacists. I have no interest in having non-whites around to lord over like they do. I am a White Separatist -- I will make my right to live for and amongst my own kind only.
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>"But what about the non-Whites?"
I was genuinely surprised to receive this question. In my eyes, there is no honor and no credit in concerning oneself with the interests of other races. They can look out for themselves. The White People’s Party is not interested in non-Whites and Jews. They have the Democratic party, the Republican party, the Libertarian party, the Reform party, and every other institution in our society looking out for their interests. We are interested only in looking out for White people. That’s the whole point.
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Non-whites belong among their own kind. Any whigger wanting to live in a non-white society is welcome, nay required, to be slaves of the non-whites. But We Whites shall be masters of our own House.
--Martin 'Mad-Dog' Lindstedt
Republican Candidate for Governor of Missouri -- 2004
FadeTheButcher
December 3rd, 2003, 05:31 AM
Very interesting post MartinLindstedt. You said a White Party would be destroyed by the Republicunts if it gets dangerous. How would they go about doing this? I am interested in getting into local elections myself.
We must destroy the Republican Party. We can't do anything about whigger-nigger Democrats
You are absolutely right. The Democratic Party, the mongrel scum coalition, is the real enemy. That means the false opposition, the Republican Party, must be destroyed first.
MartinLindstedt
December 3rd, 2003, 07:27 AM
Very interesting post MartinLindstedt. You said a White Party would be destroyed by the Republicunts if it gets dangerous. How would they go about doing this? I am interested in getting into local elections myself.
You are absolutely right. The Democratic Party, the mongrel scum coalition, is the real enemy. That means the false opposition, the Republican Party, must be destroyed first.
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First of all, the Missouri Republican Assembly set out to destroy the Reform and USTP Parties. I hung around the USTP/CONstitution Party in 1998, and the whiggers absolutely refused to allow any new talent into it. As a result, most of the right-wing political activists jumped to the Reform Party in 2000. The Republicans simply cannot allow any third-party to exist which 'steals their votes' because here in Missouri the gliberal whiggers, niggers and beaners from St Louis and Kansas City are balanced out by 'connservantive' Rapture/Crapture suburban whiggers. So the swing vote are rural, small-town working-class White voters. Take away these voters and the Repubs lose by 1-2 percent.
The U.S. Senate race in 2000 in which Ashcroft lost to a dead Democrat governor and in 2002 where Widow Carnahan lost to No-Talent was lost by less than one-half of one percent.
So any political party which takes White votes means crippling and killing the Republicans. Therefore, old fashioned ballot-box stuffing, keeping niggers from voting more than once, and most importantly, destroying third parties is needed for Republicans to win in 2004. Tip-over with beaners voting Democrat will likely happen by 2006.
In the case of the Reform Party, RuntBlunt, the current Secretary of State destroyed the Reform Party by refusing to recognize the duly elected Reform Party county and state committee members in favor of Buchananites and perobots because the Nationalist faction was dedicated to destroying the Republican Party. But what really killed the Missouri Reform Party was RuntBlunt as Secretary of State letting the outgoing Party Treasurer form his own PAC and then transfer $4,300 of MoRP funds -- all of the MoRP funds -- to that PAC. Then there was no money for newsletters and the MoRP members, getting nothing for their membership dues, disappeared. RuntBlunt and the Republicans deliberately destroyed the Missouri Reform Party.
Next year I intend to address that matter as a Republican candidate.
Secondly, these minor political parties destroy themselves. This is because most of them are fifth- and sixth-rate hacks who lose out in the Democrat and Republican parties to third- and fouth-rate hacks. They are full of goofy senile old whiggers who want to pretend to love niggers and beaners.
The National Reform Party destroyed itself. Buchanan was sent to steal $12.5 million in matching funds. The Republican korts gave him that money and in return Buchanan chose a nigger female as VP. Before Long Beach the Reform Party had 3.5 % of the vote -- mostly Southern White male. After Long Beach and the nigger running [pri-] mate Buchanan got seven-tenth of one percent of the national vote. Buchanan spent most of the money, $10 million of it in California and places which would go to AlGore, none of it to hurt Bush Jewnyer. Buchanan could have given $50,000 or $10,000 to the State Party Organizations to help it live to make 2004. Buchanan refused, deliberately.
Secondly, I've been to these third-party organizations at the state level. In the case of the LibberToons and USTP/CONstitution Parties, they are full of sixth raters scared to death of bringing in new talent which might get something done and replacing them. So they deliberately destroy new talent. The Missouri LibberToon Party consists of a half-dozen regional LibberToons and a dozen of their supporters which deliberately sabotage each other. If I could get 40 delegates from 20 counties, I could take, but not keep, the LibberToon Party. The USTP/CONstition Party, run from the District of Corruption by the Khazar jew Howard Phillips, has a third of the membership of the LibberToons, and by 2000 couldn't even run more than one out of nine congressional candidates. They imploded.
The Reform Party, full of perobots and then buchananite whiggers, purged each other. They went from 20 million voters in 1992 to 12 million in 1996 to several thousand delegates in 2000 to around 226 in 2001 to 140-some in 2002 to where now there are all of 39 in the remaining State Party Organizations. These idiots destroyed themselves as a political party. The very first targeted for purging were racial Nationalists like myself who had gotten elected by county organizations we had developed. Top-down created political parties always destroy the grass-roots, especially if they are effective and 'racist.'
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The Democrat Party, because it is full of non-whites and jews, knows what it wants. Therefore, their political activists are unified in hating Whites. They know who they are and what they want. Therefore they cannot be infiltraited and destroyed by Whites, especially White Nationalists. They never will be anything other than the open enemies of Whites.
But we can and must destroy the Republican Party. They pretend to be White, but they destroy us and sell us out. Therefore, we must destroy them first by denying them the White vote and take credit for destroying them by that means.
On occassion, and if necessary, I'll vote Democrat. I even help Democrat feebs. I even in 2002 helped this clueless Democrat sue the Republicans in Greene County and a Republican university because he got arrested trying to 'motor-voter' register some niggers and students. But that is another tale.
In Missouri, two percent is what is needed to get on the ballot and retain ballot access. I urge activists to run for the 'big offices' as overtly racist Republicans but better yet, to form county political parties and run their own local candidates. I am hoping to find a racial Nationalist to run for U.S. Senate since I am going to run for Governor. Running for a federal office is easier because you don't need to file any paperwork if you spend less than $5000. I've never spent anything much over the filing fee.
Secondly, rather than get ticketed for littering with folders like the NA, running as a political candidate lets one say and write pretty much whatever they please and get away with it. I call my filing fee a 'sedition license' -- which it is. Some whigger fools amongst the LibberToons and Deformers have whined that I have advocated overthrowing the government. Obviously I can't call them liars for telling the truth that once. I got plenty of publicity until 2002, when I decided to run as a Republican for U.S. Senate. Before then, as a LibberToon or Reform Party candidate for the same office, the jewsmedia whined about what a racist asshole I was. It dried up in 2002 because the Repubs need them 'racist homophobic White male' voters, and they can't win if I am not the nominee with our voters. The Republicans get destroyed then the ZOG [s]election process is exposed as the fraud it is. So thus no coverage from the jewsmedia if one runs as a Repub.
--Martin 'Mad-Dog' Lindstedt
Republican Candidate for Governor of Missouri -- 2004
t_electric
December 3rd, 2003, 03:36 PM
I urge activists to run for the 'big offices' as overtly racist Republicans but better yet, to form county political parties and run their own local candidates.
MartinLindstedt,
What advantages do you see in forming county-level political parties compared to the Internet-based party proposed by "Betsy Ross"?
I further propose that the new party be an internet entity only, so that there is no property upon which moles could stage an event and then initiate a lawsuit to destroy us.
t_electric
December 3rd, 2003, 04:10 PM
Insofar as local rules go, niggers and jews cannot be forbidden from running as a Resistance political party candidate. There is no rule saying that they should be made welcome. When I sued the Missouri Libertarian Party for refusing to refund my $200 filing fee as a pauper, I also sued them bastards for violating my snivel-blights. I quoted the jewpreme kort 1944 decision, Alldred vs. Smith(?) in which the Oklahoma Democrat Party wasn't allowed to keep niggers out of the Democrat primary, and said that the Missery LibberToons, a pack of nigger-loving kike-licking rump-ranging faggots had something against White Heterosexual Christian Men in general and me in particular, and the 8th j.S.S.A. Circus Kort of Appeals simply didn't give a shit.
"We also conclude that Lindstedt failed to show that some racial or other class-based invidiously discriminatory animus lay behind the Libertarian Party's decision to expel him from the organization and to refuse to refund his filing fee."
Cf. Lindstedt v. Missouri Libertarian Party, et. al, 160 F3d 1197-1199
http://www.martinlindstedt.org/slmd1198.html
MartinLindstedt,
We must assume that the court would have found differently if you were a jew/nigger instead of a White man.
Jews/niggers will join the proposed White party and any perceived violation of their snivel rights will be used to take the party down.
Local, perpetual, independent campaigns are the way to go.
t_electric
December 3rd, 2003, 04:26 PM
Instead of a White political party I propose a White, internet-based platform - let us call it "The Pinetree Platform" - organized along the lines of "Betsy Ross'" proposal. The platform should distinguish itself by defining the term "White" and as Martin Lindstedt proposed, stating what we are against rather than what we are for. Independent, White candidates for local office would identify themselves by publicly subscribing to that platform and each will retain the flexibility of tailoring his campaign to the needs of his community.
MartinLindstedt
December 3rd, 2003, 10:33 PM
MartinLindstedt,
What advantages do you see in forming county-level political parties compared to the Internet-based party proposed by "Betsy Ross"?
What is the advantage to having real sex with one's wife as opposed to masturbating over Internet-based porn?
A county-based grass-roots political party is do-able. I've used the Missouri LibberToon Party since 1996, since it retains ballot access of 2% statewide, to run myself and other candidates for county-wide office. This even though the Missery LibberToons expelled me in 1997. I can't play these political games on the state-wide level with the LibberToons. I can play county polytricks in Newton County and a few adjoining counties because I absolutely control the Newton County Libertarian Party Central Committee as Chairman. Thus whenever I lose the 'big' primary for governor or jew-Ess Senaturd, I during the filing season from the fourth Tuesday in February to the fourth Tuesday in March make sure that I file my girlfriend, son-in-law, friend or relative for sheriff or commissioner. Then as chairman I 'waive' the $50 filing fee which in Missouri goes to the political parties, not the state or county treasury. In 1996 I tried just to nominate myself as the Newton County LibberToon candidate for sheriff. I sued through the Missery korts, then went to the federal korts -- and lost. Since then I've put a placeholder to run through a contestless primary, then ran in the general election.
http://www.martinlindstedt.org/4sheriff.html
Also, I had an ally, non-Nationalist then, run for associate circuit kort judge as a non-lawyer. I could do this because there was a county based political party for him to run on and because the Republican county clerk didn't like to be sued by me so she obeyed the election law. I still had to fight in the federal and Missery appellate korts to keep the local lawyers from putting my guy in jail, but I snarled it enough to where the non-lawyer for judge got 15% of the county vote -- 1500 votes or so.
http://www.martinlindstedt.org/rd4judge.html
Polytricks is a contact sport. The county level is self-contained from the state level in Missouri. Yes, I use the Internet to create my own favorable press even when the jewsmedia absolutely ignores me. I'd rather be lied about by the jewsmedia than totally ignored. Again, I was demonized as a racist militiaman and White Supremacist by the judenpress since 1996 until I ran as a Republican in 2002. The reason I wasn't demonized then as a racist is because the Missouri Republican Party NEEDED the rural, small-town working-class racist White vote of between 2-5% so they couldn't afford to give that percentage what they wanted -- a real pro-White, anti-[g]immigrunt, ship 'em all back to Africa reparations genuine White Resistance politician.
The county level plan is doable, especially in rural third-class and fourth-class counties. Two percent can be garnered by running for associate county commissioner of half of the county. In a ten-thousand (actually 10-13 thousand registered voters voting, depending upon which election it is in Newton County) registered voting population like Newton county, two percent is 200 petition signatures. Make it an associate county commissioner it is 100 signatures. In poor rural White counties like Cedar and Dade Countis, where there are only 3,000-5,000 registered voters, then that is 60-100 for county-wide office or 30-50 voters for associate county commissioner to get your political party on the county ballot.
My plan would be to call this political party the Nationalist Party and have as its signal the Stars&Bars. There is a Revised Statute of Missouri against using the ZOG rag as a party symbol.
I don't know about [s]election laws in other states. I've read quite a bit of Missouri election law. Over the years I've planned quite a few political 'ambushes' by means of doing something that the Dems and Reps like to reserve for themselves and then triggering a lawsuit. [S}Election 'law' is deliberately left vague so that the Dems and Reps can use it against minor political parties and on behalf of themselves when it suits them.
Insofar as another question asked, that of jews and ZOG interfering in minor political parties -- it happens all the time. However if the Resistance politicals cannot effectively run a local rural county party without a jew in sight on behalf of local White folks, then it is the quality of the Resistance politicals to blame. Who is to blame for the fact that collecting 100 petition signitures in a county or less to form a Nationalist Party is possible, but not done, except for a lack of will or ability on the part of the local Resistance political population? If we cannot rally even a mere 2% of 'our' population to our side, then we are indeed effectively dead politically.
Nor do the jews have enough kikes in the field in places like rural Missouri or anywhere else in flyover country to keep track of local political parties. The minor political parties inevitably try to centralize power and have one kike in charge, like the USTP/CONstitution Party's Howard Jew Phillips. The Reform Party was centralized and so first Perot, then Buchanan controlled it. County level grassroots political parties acting autonomously can be de facto White only.
Lastly, election of Resistance politicals is effectively impossible at this time. 90% of 'whites' are whigger lemmings. They will not vote White until there is no other choice. However, Resistance politicals need to learn how to lead politically since few of us have the military and moral skills to dominate even a whigger lemming population by sheer force and terror.
--Martin 'Mad Dog' Lindstedt
Chairman, Newton County Libertarian Party
Chairman, 131st State Representative LP Central Committee
Chairman & State Committeeman, 32d State Senatorial District, Missouri Libertarian Party (although the LibberToons like to pretend otherwise)
Steve B
December 3rd, 2003, 11:49 PM
"But we can and must destroy the Republican Party. They pretend to be White, but they destroy us and sell us out. Therefore, we must destroy them first by denying them the White vote and take credit for destroying them by that means".-ML
"Next year I intend to address that matter as a Republican candidate"-ML
'In 1996, I ran as the right-wing candidate for governor as a LibberToon"-ML
"In 2000, I ran as a Deformer candidate for U.S. Senate"-ML
"In 2002, I ran as a Republikudikhan candidate"-ML
"And in 2004, I am gonna run as Martin 'Mad-Dog' Lindstedt against Runt Blunt as a Repub again"-ML
"On occassion, and if necessary, I'll vote Democrat. I even help Democrat feebs."-ML
Ya know Martin, Iv'e read many of your writings posted on your website and I must say you were born with more than your fair share of brains but I gotta say....you're all over the board here, fella!
"Destroy the Republican party" and do it by running as a "Republican candidate". In 96 "ran as a Libbertoon candidate for Guv". 2000 ran as a "Deformer candidate for Senate". 2002 and 2004 back to "Republikudikhan". and occassionally you "help and vote" Democrat.
Can you spell...counter-productive? You haven't won any elections, not even dog catcher. From what I can see you're basically a shit stirrer who pisses everyone off. Repubs, Dems, Libertarians, Reformers, etc. Fortunately you haven't ticked off WN's yet but by the same token you haven't helped any either. In point of fact, It is my opinion that you make us look bad.
Now I'm not saying don't run for office or don't try. But for Gods sake, pick a course of action and stick with it. Fuck the repubs and dems and all the rest of the jew partys in between, you'll get nowhere with them. You're just a minor irritant to them, nothing more. Form your own party. If it takes %2 to get on the ballot then start small and work from there. Uncle wolf didn't join the Social Democrats or the Independent Socialists, or the KPD, or the Centre Party, or the Bavarian Peoples Party...HE formed his own and went with it!
Personally I prefer Linders approach. More reasonable, logical and doable. But thats just my opinion and like assholes...everyones got one!
MartinLindstedt
December 4th, 2003, 01:48 AM
"But we can and must destroy the Republican Party. They pretend to be White, but they destroy us and sell us out. Therefore, we must destroy them first by denying them the White vote and take credit for destroying them by that means".-ML
"Next year I intend to address that matter as a Republican candidate"-ML
'In 1996, I ran as the right-wing candidate for governor as a LibberToon"-ML
"In 2000, I ran as a Deformer candidate for U.S. Senate"-ML
"In 2002, I ran as a Republikudikhan candidate"-ML
"And in 2004, I am gonna run as Martin 'Mad-Dog' Lindstedt against Runt Blunt as a Repub again"-ML
"On occassion, and if necessary, I'll vote Democrat. I even help Democrat feebs."-ML
Ya know Martin, Iv'e read many of your writings posted on your website and I must say you were born with more than your fair share of brains but I gotta say....you're all over the board here, fella! !
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It is definitely NOT a happy day for Establishment political ZOGlings when Martin Lindstedt files as a political candidate for 'their' ZOG political party. I've been kicked out and jailed by the LibberToons. I've been blamed for 'destroying' the Missery Deformers and USTPers. And the Repubs are scared to death of me because they will be:
1: Associated with White Nationalism by whiggers, niggers and jews, and/or
2) Not associated with White Nationalism by working-class rural White men.
So I'd say that I have probably have a reputation for doing nothing except attack, attack, attack and then 'losing' the primary [s]election continually, as if there was any other option.
There is a method to my madness. That my enemies don't know what I am going to do until I do it is their misfortune. I probably have more political experience due to my planned inevitable 'failures' than anyone else in the Resistance. --M.L.
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>"Destroy the Republican party" and do it by running as a "Republican candidate". In 96 "ran as a Libbertoon candidate for Guv". 2000 ran as a "Deformer candidate for Senate". 2002 and 2004 back to "Republikudikhan". and occassionally you "help and vote" Democrat.
Can you spell...counter-productive? You haven't won any elections, not even dog catcher. From what I can see you're basically a shit stirrer who pisses everyone off. Repubs, Dems, Libertarians, Reformers, etc. Fortunately you haven't ticked off WN's yet but by the same token you haven't helped any either. In point of fact, It is my opinion that you make us look bad. <!
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Sure. C-o-u-n-t-e-r-p-r-o-d-u-c-t-i-v-e.
We can't all love ZOG as much as you do Steve. Now be a nice little ZOGling and run back to the herd.
And no, I haven't ever asked 'permission' from whiggers, niggers, jews or anyone else to 'help' or represent them. As to whether I tick off the average Internet lurker isn't much of a concern of mine. Are you either a liar or a fool or both? You know who I am, but I have no idea of who you are. The true Resistance political operative deals with ideology, not personalities. You could be just another jew or whigger or some LibberToon or Deformer or Republikudikhan doofus that I've pissed off over the years for all I know.
I am a Resistance political operative. Anyone can find out who I am and what I stand for by looking at my WWW page. So I do not take seriously the ignorant or biased opinions of anonymous idiots across the fruited & nutted plain.
What I have proposed is a serious attempt to form a White Nationalist political party -- not on the Internet where every jackoff can whack-off, but by forming local political organizations amongst our very own kind. In Missouri rural counties that means getting 100-200 signed petition signatures or doing it by halfers and running as associate county commissioner. I'd do it by calling it the 'Nationalist' Party and putting the Stars&Bars as the party symbol and getting two percent of the vote to ensure ballot access for the next four years. Doubtless someone living in Boston, Marxachusetts might want to do something differently.
My suggestions, bourne of experience, are not about ME, but rather something which can be done by anyone who even remotely wants to do something. I am not suggesting that anyone run for major political office statewide as a disruptor while at the same time running a local political machine in a county. I do it every year since 1996. But that's me. It could be you too.
We need to build what we can build, small enough to resist infiltraition. Yet we also need to destroy what we can destroy by means of 'legal' infiltraition as well. The harvest is great; but few are the harvestors. --M.L.
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>Now I'm not saying don't run for office or don't try. But for Gods sake, pick a course of action and stick with it. Fuck the repubs and dems and all the rest of the jew partys in between, you'll get nowhere with them. You're just a minor irritant to them, nothing more. Form your own party. If it takes %2 to get on the ballot then start small and work from there. Uncle wolf didn't join the Social Democrats or the Independent Socialists, or the KPD, or the Centre Party, or the Bavarian Peoples Party...HE formed his own and went with it!
Personally I prefer Linders approach. More reasonable, logical and doable. But thats just my opinion and like assholes...everyones got one!
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You want to pick a course of action and then stick to it, even though it fails? Why not attack 100 places at 100 times? The Resistance can't slog it out with ZOG face to face. Political guerrilla warfare -- that's the ticket! The Iraqis are doing exactly that and destroying ZOG and its joopers. On the other hand, Zulus loved to attack in the same old manner and they ended up getting slaughtered by the Boers and the English. Why are you no smarter than a Zulu?
By the way, I am fucking the Repubs. I've made 'em squeal!
http://www.martinlindstedt.org/ml050802.html
And I've heard of Adolp Hitler, and you're no Adolf Hitler. For that matter, neither am I. Adolf Hitler, if living in ZOG today, would have to work with what he's got, just as I do today. Polytricks is the art of the possible. This is NOT 1933 or 1776, like I've told the militia-generals. If it's any time in the past, it's 476 A.D. and I'm an OstroGoth. A 'Mad-Dog' OstroGoth.
I am hoping to talk Alex Linder and/or Bill White into finding and recruiting their own political talent now that they live in Missouri. It's nothing to me if they hate each other. I don't remotely insist that they do it my way as they are old enough to do it for themselves. I don't want to be gauleiter of their counties. I am saying that I have a lot of experience in political activism that they or anyone else can use.
--Martin 'Mad Dog' Lindstedt
Republican Candidate for Governor of Missouri -- 2004
t_electric
December 4th, 2003, 01:51 AM
What is the advantage to having real sex with one's wife as opposed to masturbating over Internet-based porn?
A county-based grass-roots political party is do-able.
Insofar as another question asked, that of jews and ZOG interfering in minor political parties -- it happens all the time. However if the Resistance politicals cannot effectively run a local rural county party without a jew in sight on behalf of local White folks, then it is the quality of the Resistance politicals to blame. Who is to blame for the fact that collecting 100 petition signitures in a county or less to form a Nationalist Party is possible, but not done, except for a lack of will or ability on the part of the local Resistance political population? If we cannot rally even a mere 2% of 'our' population to our side, then we are indeed effectively dead politically.
Nor do the jews have enough kikes in the field in places like rural Missouri or anywhere else in flyover country to keep track of local political parties. The minor political parties inevitably try to centralize power and have one kike in charge, like the USTP/CONstitution Party's Howard Jew Phillips. The Reform Party was centralized and so first Perot, then Buchanan controlled it. County level grassroots political parties acting autonomously can be de facto White only.
MartinLindstedt,
Thanks very much for your detailed reply.
I agree that county-level resistance parties in lightly-populated, rural locations should be able to discourage jews/niggers. However, above the county level or in heavily-populated, suburban locations which are predominantly non-Hispanic White I see two choices:
1. Voting/working for the Democrat, or
2. Mounting a perpetual, independent campaign which attacks the Republicunts and encourages non-Whites to vote Democratic.
Above the county-level a perpetual, independent candidacy would allow the resistance candidate to retain control of his campaign. In other words, no jews/niggers allowed and greater flexibility in avoiding ZOG's other, legal machinations.
Now, frankly, the only reason I can see for running as a Republican would be to gain name recognition. IMO this could only be done once and in the very beginning of one's political career else one's credibility would be lost. Can you provide additional reasons (other than as a one-time ploy for increased name recognition) why a resistance candidate should run as a Republican?
Agis
December 4th, 2003, 11:50 AM
The only reason we hear about Pierce and not the thousands of other dissidents who went down in silence, is because he knew how to manage an office that - with the help of everyday Janes and Joes -1. collected and accounted for donations/revenue and 2. paid salaries, including his own. His only mistake was creating a for-profit corporation instead of a non-profit. This failure of intention caused his "vision" to be crippled by the corporate mentality.
The office is the fundamental cell. It must function properly. The books must balance and expenses must be covered. There must be financial accountability. This is the engine.
Step two involves drawing up a manifesto: a mission statement, complete with membership requirements. It is the duty of the board to see that the mission statement and the membership requirements are upheld.
Step three: promotion.
Step four: allocation of resources.
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This is the type of ground work "revolutionaries" are loath to do, but this is the way productive, long-term resistance is carried out.
Beowulf
December 4th, 2003, 07:27 PM
His only mistake was creating a for-profit corporation instead of a non-profit. This failure of intention caused his "vision" to be crippled by the corporate mentality.
In Dr. Pierce's defense, I believe that he did orginally try to set the National Alliance up as a non-profit organization but ZOG would not allow it. Anyway, I agree with Aegis, we need to create a centrally organized party. I know that many do not like this approach as it gives ZOG a target for attack, but we will never beat them if we cannot create real bricks-and-mortor resistance. So far, I think that I like the Betsy Ross idea the best, but with so many intelligent and thoughtful people in our cause, I am confident that we will find a way to make this happen soon.
TylerD
December 5th, 2003, 01:57 AM
This is a good topic for discussion. A third party won't work. What we need is a PAC. I'll repeat here what I e-mailed to Mike last week.
Jews didn't form a Jew Party to take over. They took over the existing parties through campaign contributions and media control sufficient to guarantee votes. Politicians came to realize that voting for or against certain things would get them support from the Jews. Those who complied were successful, those who didn't became unemployed.
Why not a party? Well, we've had the same two parties in the U.S. since 1856. Forming a new party is impossible in the absence of a political earthquake and we haven't seen that yet. This isn't Europe - here, the winner takes all the whole district, so a third party can't really get "in."
Does anyone remember how hard it was to get David Duke into Congress? Our enemies will dig up every piece of dirt possible on any candidate of a White Party, and give him endless bad press. Maybe worse than Duke got.
Let's get together with NRA types, pro-family types, and anti-immigration types and pool our money for a PAC. Send money to the Republicans or Democrats that vote most pro-white, or least anti-white. Slowly build our media, increase our contributions, vote at every opportunity, and slowly tug the politicians in our direction.
All of the other suggestions have been better than this one. I would say ditch this idea and consider the rest.
Why? An effective PAC requires a very large, constant stream of money. What is the one thing that we generally lack? MONEY! And if we did start getting a better flow of cash, the money could be better spent on other things.
Also, how would we get together with the NRA and pro-family types (for arguments sake I will say that SOME anti-immigration people WOULD get together with us)? The issues that we have in common have very little to do with our collective survival and welfare. The political idiots would only tackle the very safest issue and ignore the rest of even 'moderate' proposals like giving a slightly larger deduction to married couples or not banning "too many more" guns.
Let me give you an example. The Christian Coalition types have had a cozier relationship with Bush than other Presidents. And you know that they have a lot of money and TRY to throw around their weight electorally and monetarily. What has Bush done? He hasn't taken on abortion, queers or any other domestic issue. Instead he has appeased them by going after foreign countries that oppress Christians. This is an issue that he can't lose on even with non-Christians. This makes the Christians happy but they are still left with absolutely nothing done at home. We do not have the numbers or money that they do, so why should we expect even token gestures from the regime?
Paul
December 5th, 2003, 02:28 AM
Why not a Separatist Party? Openly advocate dividing the U.S.
Peaceful separation instead of violent revolution. That way we could get the Mexican Nationalists and the Black Nationalists on our side. This would leave the multiculturalists in the middle and out-numbered. Although, we would even offer a section for the multiculturalists, so many of them could even go along with it.
Worker
December 5th, 2003, 11:56 AM
I prefer overt, loud, obnoxious, repetitive, public, and in-your-face. I'd rather send my money to someone naming the jews and explaining the problem than to Pat Buchanan and hoping he was speaking in code. And then feeling like a used fool when he picked a nigger running mate.
I could not agree more!!
People may not openly support a party like this, but in the secrecy of the voting booth is a different story. Most White folk in this country are tired of working and giving their money to jews and minorities.
The problem with most organizations, they want to shoot right to the top, take over Washington, that ain't going to happen. We need to start small. The most important offices we need to look at right now are school boards and city council seats. These two boards are now shaping our children's minds, the minds of the future. Let us start small and then grow fast.
Randolph
December 5th, 2003, 01:52 PM
I could not agree more!!
People may not openly support a party like this, but in the secrecy of the voting booth is a different story. Most White folk in this country are tired of working and giving their money to jews and minorities.
The problem with most organizations, they want to shoot right to the top, take over Washington, that ain't going to happen. We need to start small. The most important offices we need to look at right now are school boards and city council seats. These two boards are now shaping our children's minds, the minds of the future. Let us start small and then grow fast.
Worker, your post makes alot of sense. A new party will have to start with modest goals and work its way foward.
Next, I would name the party the American Heritage Party. There is no need to be out right racial. If you want to build a party, you will have to be inviting, not confrontational. There is plenty of time for that later. From the start, it is important not to offend those who will like to be your supporters, even though they are sqeemish about being seen as a racist. It will take time to change public opinion, it can be done.
And finally, any party statement that advocates any type of socialism or national socialism will be a dead letter. I have been, for just over a year now, been making a case for capitalism (not the Interventionist version we have today, the free trade of the 1820s of Andrew Jackson's era).
All I ask is that you keep an open mind to the possibilities of the compatibility of the 14 words and capitalism.
ANTONIO FINI
December 5th, 2003, 05:33 PM
Worker, your post makes alot of sense. A new party will have to start with modest goals and work its way foward.
Next, I would name the party the American Heritage Party. There is no need to be out right racial. If you want to build a party, you will have to be inviting, not confrontational. There is plenty of time for that later. From the start, it is important not to offend those who will like to be your supporters, even though they are sqeemish about being seen as a racist. It will take time to change public opinion, it can be done.
And finally, any party statement that advocates any type of socialism or national socialism will be a dead letter. I have been, for just over a year now, been making a case for capitalism (not the Interventionist version we have today, the free trade of the 1820s of Andrew Jackson's era).
All I ask is that you keep an open mind to the possibilities of the compatibility of the 14 words and capitalism.
I think the central problem with any pro white party is this: most white people are too petrified, distracted, or morally repulsed by the idea to give it credence. They live lives of relative comfort and security, and their main political worries are what the Republicans will do to aleviate taxes or what the Democrats will do to save the environment. This is the simple reality of our predicament.
I work three blocks away from the hole in the ground they still call the World Trade Center. My coworkers and I witnessed the whole attack and evacuated Manhattan on a tugboat that day. Yet I can tell you no one here is worried about more terrorism. The hot topic around the office is year end bonuses. Trivial concerns drive away thoughts of eventual catastrophe.
A more worrisome example: I'm doing research for a Civil War novel and was considering joining a group of Confederate army re-enactors. The application form on their website requires prospective members to state they are not now, and never were part of any extremist or supremecist group, or any group advocating revolution. I want everyone to savor that. A bunch of white Southerners from Alabama dress up like Johnny Reb to reenact Civil War battles and what's their greatest fear? That 20/20 will run a story hinting they're a bunch of white racists.
I think I can predict how and when this psychic barrier will evaporate for our people. When become a numeric minority in America and begin to suffer the endless personal indignities and degradations that our new masters will iflict on us every day. Of course by then it will be too late for an electoral solution won't it?
I'm open to any suggestions, but nothing transforms perception faster than a brutal defeat.
Worker
December 5th, 2003, 06:48 PM
I think the central problem with any pro white party is this: most white people are too petrified, distracted,
All we need them for is 2 days a year, for the June primaries and the November elections, who cares what they do the remaining 363 days of the year.
Glenda
December 5th, 2003, 07:52 PM
It's a good idea to consider the name of the party that Randolph suggested, American Heritage Party. Now, if we spin off that name, we can say that we want the party to be composed of the same respresentation of people that was in existance during a certain time, be it colonial times, the fifties, any time. In that way we don't have to say "no blacks", or "no Jews", we will just say that's how it was, and we want our party to reflect our heritage, so, in order to have it that way, we can't have Jews or blacks. This means we don't have to raise issues that alarm the more "delicate" Whites. Oh, it can be a White party, and it can be said that it stands for the interests of Whites. But it doesn't have to say it is pro-national socialism or any other ism. It does not have to dictate any religious doctrine. The shrinking violets will have a hard enough time getting over their ridiculous guilt for things they are not guilty of, never mind scaring them off with a different political philosophy. If you stick to the very basics of what would help them on an individual level you have a better chance, I think. Make very concrete and clear points on topics they have concerns over which NO OTHER PARTY addresses. Or, if they do, they never carry out their constituants wishes anyway. We stand for x, y, z. Include no more immigration, no more affirmative action, that sort of thing.
MartinLindstedt
December 6th, 2003, 01:30 AM
MartinLindstedt,
Thanks very much for your detailed reply.
I agree that county-level resistance parties in lightly-populated, rural locations should be able to discourage jews/niggers. However, above the county level or in heavily-populated, suburban locations which are predominantly non-Hispanic White I see two choices:
1. Voting/working for the Democrat, or
2. Mounting a perpetual, independent campaign which attacks the Republicunts and encourages non-Whites to vote Democratic.
I've written on issues upon which I have practical experience as a Resistance politician in Missouri. In effect, I've done both of the above matters by 1) working/sometimes voting AGAINST the false-opposition Republicunts and 2) mounting a perpetual campaign which attacks Republicunts and encourages White voters to either stay home or, sometimes to vote Dem[on]ocrat.
An overtly White Nationalist political activist can't directly affect non-white politicals except by making the Repubs look 'racist' by association and stripping Repub 'code words' under guise of which these greedy Repub NAFTA/NWO/ZOG bandits get working-class Whites to vote for them as the only alternative to the Dems.
My point is that we cannot ever affect the Dems or hurt their political 'base' of whiggers, niggers, jews and muds. Our positions are so diametrically opposed. What we can do is to destroy the false opposition -- the Repubs. Once we destroy the Repubs, the Dems shall no longer have any effective smoke screen, cover or concealment.
Therefore, another reason for doing the do-able, such as creating an array of midges in the form of county-level minor political parties is that these county gauleiters should have absolute control of the grassroots they create. In the minor political parties in Missouri which were destroyed, the agents of destruction came from 'state-wide' and national 'control.' In Missouri, the USTP/CONstitution Party was destroyed by jewdeo-churchianity whiggers from St. Louis acting upon the word of Howard [jew] Phillips. The Missouri Reform Party was destroyed at the National Reform Party Convention of July 2001 in which the elected delegations of California and Missouri were purged on the floor by the Buchananite Brigands. Centralized control by outsiders is ALWAYS the destruction of the grassroots political organization. Thus 'Platforms' should be avoided like a curse. Vote the Nationalist politician, not the Platform.
http://www.martinlindstedt.org/ml072801.html
Above the county-level a perpetual, independent candidacy would allow the resistance candidate to retain control of his campaign. In other words, no jews/niggers allowed and greater flexibility in avoiding ZOG's other, legal machinations.
Now, frankly, the only reason I can see for running as a Republican would be to gain name recognition. IMO this could only be done once and in the very beginning of one's political career else one's credibility would be lost. Can you provide additional reasons (other than as a one-time ploy for increased name recognition) why a resistance candidate should run as a Republican?
Any independant candidacy would allow the Nationalist candidate to retain control of his campaign. Insofar as your logic above, I have found by experience that it is incorrect.
I've gotten far more jewsmedia coverage as a Nationalist candidate from the jewsmedia when I was running for statewide or federal office as a non-Repub, and far less when running as a Repub. The reason is because the jewsmedia knows that a state about to undergo 'tipover' from White/Repub to non-white Dem like Missouri in which the electorially deciding difference is less than 2% cannot afford to exterminate the Repubs by highlighting a Nationalist candidate who is the genuine article racially to the rural Whites. CaliMexifornia has tipped over. Texas and Missouri are about to tip over. If I were running in South Dakota as a racist Republican the jewsmedia up there could afford to make of me an object of derision because South Dakota isn't about to tip over, yet the rural Whites hate their Souix red-niggers.
My writings on this matter are meant to get the above-ground politicals already known to ZOG to actually do something which is do-able. Since 1996, the Newton County LibberToon Party has had two members -- myself and my long-time girlfriend. Others have come and gone. I've been planning on forming a new county political party for the past year or so. All that is needed is one Nationalist activist in a county wanting to engage in political combat.
--Martin 'Mad Dog' Lindstedt
Republican Candidate for Governor of Missouri -- 2004
http://www.martinlindstedt.org/senate02.html
T.C. Lynch
December 6th, 2003, 03:34 AM
Glenda writes:
"It's a good idea to consider the name of the party that Randolph suggested, American Heritage Party. Now, if we spin off that name, we can say that we want the party to be composed of the same respresentation of people that was in existance during a certain time, be it colonial times, the fifties, any time. In that way we don't have to say "no blacks", or "no Jews", we will just say that's how it was, and we want our party to reflect our heritage, so, in order to have it that way, we can't have Jews or blacks. This means we don't have to raise issues that alarm the more "delicate" Whites."
A White Party should be called a White Party, and it should forthrightly and explicitly pursue the interests of Whites. Anything less is just another form of the Republican, Reform party con job that has allowed things to slide into the present desperate mess. As Polignano points out: How can you expect people to fight for your interests if they are too afraid to even say who they are fighting for?
T.C. Lynch
December 6th, 2003, 03:49 AM
Randolf writes:
"I would name the party the American Heritage Party. There is no need to be out right racial. If you want to build a party, you will have to be inviting, not confrontational. There is plenty of time for that later. From the start, it is important not to offend those who will like to be your supporters, even though they are sqeemish about being seen as a racist."
I am sure that Randolf thinks this a clever strategy, but it is a recipe for disaster. A White Party needs to be radical and principled from the very first. The one principle of a White Party is to pursue White interests. Any compromise on that principle, and the White Party ceases to be the White Party. If Whites cannot bring ourselves to vote for our own interests, then we will get what we deserve: extinction.
The party should want to repulse those who are squeamish about securing their own survival. Why? Because, as the best book ever written about radical politics, namely MEIN KAMPF, says, a party that softens its message to gain a lot of squeamish members will be paralyzed by them when it tries to move in the radical direction that is needed.
Better, then, to have a party that is small but unbending in its basic principles. Such a party will be a unified force that can hang together for the long, hard task of winning the voters over to the truth.
Glenda
December 6th, 2003, 02:15 PM
To T. C. Lynch.....That is certainly the flip side of the argument, but I don't think what I wrote was "absolute nonsense". It remains to be seen what will effect enough change from the whites in the US. From the point of view of attracting people in numbers, though, given white's brainwash over the last 40 or so years, it's going to be a real task to jolt them into the reality of where we are and where we're headed. They are so dispirited or stupid or apathetic or brainwashed that they really don't see the writing on the wall. The people who read VNN are way ahead of the curve. I think Alex would agree with you on this point.
Steve B
December 7th, 2003, 02:03 AM
Randolf writes:
"I would name the party the American Heritage Party. There is no need to be out right racial. If you want to build a party, you will have to be inviting, not confrontational. There is plenty of time for that later. From the start, it is important not to offend those who will like to be your supporters, even though they are sqeemish about being seen as a racist."
I am sure that Randolf thinks this a clever strategy, but it is a recipe for disaster. A White Party needs to be radical and principled from the very first. The one principle of a White Party is to pursue White interests. Any compromise on that principle, and the White Party ceases to be the White Party. If Whites cannot bring ourselves to vote for our own interests, then we will get what we deserve: extinction.
The party should want to repulse those who are squeamish about securing their own survival. Why? Because, as the best book ever written about radical politics, namely MEIN KAMPF, says, a party that softens its message to gain a lot of squeamish members will be paralyzed by them when it tries to move in the radical direction that is needed.
Better, then, to have a party that is small but unbending in its basic principles. Such a party will be a unified force that can hang together for the long, hard task of winning the voters over to the truth.
I couldn't agree more, TC. Milk toasting this souffle with platitudes of "American heritage" and "no need to be out right racial" ain't gonna get it done and neither is nutcase "'Mad-Dog' OstroGoth Lindstedt" running as a repub, dem, libbertoon, deformer, dogcatcher, etc.
If jew politics is in order I recommend the David Duke model. Now don't get me wrong I'm not a big fan of Duke but at least the guy was successful when it came to jew politics. Elected to the House of Representatives in Louisiana and damn near got elected to the U.S. Senate.
How did he do it? Well he did it by being smart, professional and jew media savy. No "NIGGERS THIS...JEWS THAT" crapola. Duke was speaking to the fed up dis-enfranchised White lemmings, not to WN!'s Hell, we WN's already know about the jew and nigger! Duke spoke to White people in a calm dignified manner but never left out the racial struggle that WE are all aware of.
Course the jew boys saw the writing on the wall and put the kosher hammer on Duke which is why I don't see the point of running in any jew sponsered political partys like "mad dog KostroGoth" does. If "mad dog is successful(LOL) then the kosher boys will chop him down. If he ain't then the laughs just keep on a coming at OUR expense!
Read MEIN KAMPF as TC says! A White Peoples Party! No softening, no politically correct, feel your pain White lemming bullshit! ITZ past time for that. Strong, radical, in your face White Nationalism. ITZ the only thing that will set the beanie boys back on their heels. The first sign of weakness on our part and the jews will smell blood....and they be experts on exploiting blood and weakness!
Agis
December 7th, 2003, 08:52 AM
Duke should be considered the WN political prototype. What he didn't have was a National party to support him financially, publically or regionally. These are the meta-level benefits of party organization. If Mississippi is lost, there's always Washington and Alabama to think about and the next time around.
As for first principles, there should be no compromise on Race. If we only have 50 supporters, then those are 50 supporters that should be represented openly and in a truthful manner. The party's job is to win. Politics is Partisan. It's about choosing a side and fighting for your life!
T.C. Lynch
December 7th, 2003, 09:11 AM
I admire Duke tremendously. Yes, there are some things about him that don't sit well with me. I find it hard to trust a man who has had a facelift, gambles a lot, and womanizes.
But, damn it, MY AWAKENING and JEWISH SUPREMACISM are excellent books, beautifully written and chock full of truths.
And even more admirable is that fact that the man actually went outdoors and ran for office. Yes, they jailed him on some technicality. But even that served to educate the public.
And, as I never tire of repeating, ex-Klansman Duke, who was photographed in a Nazi Storm Trooper uniform, managed to win more votes in the state of Louisana than respectable, non-racist Pat Buchanan and his running mate Ebonics Foster won in the entire country.
It is time we Whites stop trying to be "respectable" in a system that is rigged for our destruction. In today's system, the only respectable opposition is an ineffectual one.
As Dr. Goebbels said, if you are not vilified in the Jewish press, then you know that you are not spending your time wisely.
Once David Duke gets out of prison, I hope that he runs for President on the White Party ticket.
Until then, I'll keep voting for Ralph Nader. Green is not White, but the Greens are working to open up the system and make it easier for Third Parties, which will help clear the way for a White Party when it forms.
T.C. Lynch
December 7th, 2003, 09:12 AM
Once he gets out of Landsberg, David Duke would be an excellent choice to head the National Alliance.
leeluttrell
December 7th, 2003, 01:30 PM
Excellent thread with some excellent posts. I SERIOUSLY question your numbers of white people that would even take part. Your own requirement of a 4 generational check alone is pretty demanding. Factor in all the whites that have already been compromised by their own children and families, along with all the rapture bunnies who can't get off of their knees to the Jews, and the majority who only care about next weeks paycheck, and now you have really whittled down the total. I think the truth be known, us whites are already the minority, if not physically, then mentally. I think there are some great ideas here, I just don't see the support. Recount Please!!!
Derrick Beukeboom
December 8th, 2003, 01:51 PM
As Linder mentioned, we have two schools of thought here in regard to an political party : the in your face, tell it like it is, WHITE party and the finessed version, suit and tie, heritage version that will try to go covert by playing the pragmatic card....
Well, it's impossible to say definitively which one would work better in the privacy of the voting booth. Yes, there are lots of folks disenchanted with 'the system' now. Most people are stupid yes,but not so stupid that they are not aware that this country is headed (or in) the third world shitter and that the mainstream parties are just businesses.
Yet, in a way, its all become the 21st century, globalist New Social Contract for our ages. The masses have decided that they will not raise a finger in the destruction of their nations, will not fight back aganist the corruption and jew control of our political and media circles just so as long as they can keep living the relative high life of affording SUVs', computer gadgets, a few mutual funds and a house.......in a nutshell. This is the middle class life.
The workers may be more inclined to fight since they are not as well off, but as long as they still have their weekends off, cheap food and drinks, sports, computer and maybe a respectable home...they are happy as well.
Look, the masses will always be asses. Don't count on them for anything. The elite thinkers and doers must lead the pack. It's like in th business world, you have to create innovation and EXECUTE!
Brainstorming is fine, but brainstorming never built any bridges or opened an office somewhere.
It's fun talking about the demographics, yes, but politics is the ultimate dirty business. Always has been. That is why the jews are still around today. Conventional thinking would have wiped the jews off the earth 5000 years ago. But the jews have the survival game down to a science.
We may just have to emulate them a bit.
Shock value has its place. If you back down, your fucked. That is what the jews count on. They will intimidate and threaten you to back down. When you do not, they are then on the defensive, that is key.
But remember, they will use their power and influence to paint you as irrelevant and harmless.
That is what they do now will neo-"nazis". They just paint them as powerless (even though they are not), but over time, even the neos start to think, well, maybe we are.
The finesse message of the respectable racialists is combated by intimidation, threats and counter- intelligence or they will frame a few (i.e. Matt Hale) in partnership with the government to shut up the rest or intimidate and crush the fighting spirit of the rest of the respectable crowd who do have things to lose.
Remember, the federal government is just a business opened to the highest bidder. We have nowhere near the capital in finances and numbers to compete right now. We are left with onlythe internet to fight back.
It may seem like a long shot, but I'm inclined to think that at this point it may be better to go straight at them in your face style to jar the enemy and put him on his defenses.
The government does not want anything to disrupt the business, so they will try to crush anything that will impede the business. Be ready.
They will use any trick in the book when they see you mobilizing and gaining momentum.
Grass roots activism is the only way. Start small, catch the jews in their own lies.
You will have to go at them, but fake them out with smarts.
So, in a way, we have to do a little bit of both.
Fredrik Haerne
December 8th, 2003, 01:53 PM
Success for a White party that names the Jew is the goal. I think, however, that "soft" nationalist parties, that don't name the Jew, can help pave the way for that goal, much like a soft nationalist journalist, newspaper, etc. They help get rid of anti-free speech laws, they embolden Whites, and they spread the truth that all races have group interests. From there on it is a much smaller step to realize the truth about Jews.
Similarly, it is much easier for communist parties to gain followers in a country ruled by social democrats than in a conservative country, since the social democrats spread the same basic paradigm as the commies.
Let's not forget that in revolutions the most radical elements tend to run the show in the end, even if it was the moderates who started the whole thing.... The French Revolution comes to mind, as well as the Bolsheviks that came to dominate the Commie Party in Russia. And let's not forget that few revolutionnaries reveal their whole agenda right away. The Jews are good at keeping quiet about their true plans for the West, for example.
So should a country have a softcore or hardcore nationalist party? It should have both!
Fredrik Haerne
December 9th, 2003, 05:07 AM
You're forgetting that the US has hardcore national socialist parties. They don't seem to be doing much. They may only get about 1% of the vote and their propaganda does not reach people.
The anti-Jewish parties and organizations are needed to keep the truth alive, even if they don't gain many votes at this time. Hopefully in the future it will be possible to change that.
Only the more moderate folkish parties seem to do well, but we don't have those here.
Well, there is at least one local party, in Nebraska I believe. You guys should get involved in these when you find them in your home states.
western-nationalist
December 9th, 2003, 07:24 PM
There is the AFP www.americafirstparty.org/ but they aren't on the ballot yet, and are not outright racial.
Inflitrating one of these type of parties would be a good idea, even though ZOG would likey try to ruin it. We need to start on a political platform that is more reachable to the white population, before we go all out on things like WN and NS.
Boondock Saint
December 9th, 2003, 07:25 PM
Sign me up.
Grenadier
December 9th, 2003, 09:00 PM
I don't believe that we can change what needs to be changed from within the system. There have been alot of really great ideas posted in this thread but I think that many are too optimistic about the level of response that they are likely to get from the white masses. Conditions are simply too good for most people to actively want to make a change, regardless of where their current lifestyle is taking them.
I believe any party or movement needs to have two seperate part. A public political part and a covert militant part. One undermines the system and makes general ecomonic and social conditions worse and the other capitalises on that deterioration by advancing their ideology.
Time is against us. And talking alone will not save our race.
Dennis
Fredrik Haerne
December 10th, 2003, 04:57 AM
I don't believe that we can change what needs to be changed from within the system.
The NSDAP took part in elections...the Communist party in Russia didn't show its true intentions at first.... You can gain a lot from having a party as your platform. The NSDAP would never have grown big enough to take over the country if it had been an organization only, as most people who are possible recruits think that it's party politics that is the strong card. That must be used, even if you don't intend to change much through elections. That's how you grow bigger, and educate more people.
no_nomen
December 10th, 2003, 05:46 AM
I believe any party or movement needs to have two seperate part.
A public political part and a covert militant part. One undermines
the system and makes general ecomonic and social conditions
worse and the other capitalises on that deterioration by advancing
their ideology.
Time is against us. And talking alone will not save our race. Dennis
Grenadier Sir,
AH ! Our enemies know this, why don't we?
Those that talk don't do and those who do don't talk.
And if they do and then talk they don't live long!
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Antiochus Epiphanes
December 10th, 2003, 01:24 PM
Great ideas have been articulated. I'm hoping independent action will be taken by some of these ideologues.
Debating covert vs overt is fun and all, but it's dancing on the head of a pin because right now there is very little of either.
Actually if there is probably more covert activity than we are aware of due to the fact that a very skilled covert operator or strategist is not likely to come to VNNForum and spill the beans on what they are doing. However, I have seen that there is much energy and resources going into the "paleocon" pundits and that is a sign of definite WN philosophical acceptance among a very serious though small portion of the remnant White elites. You may decry Pat Buch and Paul Craig Roberts types for not being more strident, but the truth is they have implicated the Jews by using the phrase "neocon war cabal" and then listing the Jewish names time after time after time. If you think people are missing this not-so-subtle message, perhaps some are, but many more are "getting it" than a few years ago. Strident voices are important and no doubt Alex and VNN have been read by more than a few who have been emboldened.
However, let's go past this debate and take as an assumption that at some part a White party will need to specifically identify a White constituency and reject Jewish leadership. That doesnt need to be done in a hateful or exterminationist manner, but it does need to happen, so let's assume that and progress the discussion.
The objectives of a White party should be a) to participate in elections in order to gain leveraged publicity and propaganda opportunities for the White message. IE, get out the message in a way that isnt being done right now. b) to serve as a directional enterprise for the time and efforts of people who will not go out and do on their own. IE, to provide a constructive activity and leadership for folks interested in advancing the White cause who are looking for such a thing and otherwise would "fall away." c) to serve as a community building exercise that will build WN ability to communicate coordinate and cooperate with each other. WN are very short on these skills and no better way to build them than electoral politics.
The thing that needs to be done, is people running for office. DO this. Dont wait for somebody else to hand it over on a silver platter. Read the many comments of Martin Lindstedt for one example. Jim Giles was another. Your town has a dogcatcher slot, you should run. Doesnt matter if you participate covertly in an existing party or you run independently, what matters is people build skills and get involved, and then turn these building blocks of knowledge and skill towards the collective endeavor.
As knowledge skills and personnel base grows and expands, the tough task of ORGANIZING White PACs and parties will be more feasible than it is right now. Right now there is all talk, no action, and any action would be like herding cats without so much as a crook to do so. People know this so they arent throwing money at the problem, and money is a necessary component of organizational activity.
ANTIOCHUS EPIPHANES
leeluttrell
December 11th, 2003, 11:18 AM
Here are a few facts regarding support:
(1) By 2050 the WHITE MAN will be the minority! (US Gov)
(2) Between 2015 and 2025 70 million Americans will retire! (US Gov)
(3) 60% of Americans believe the problems with race are: Racial quotas and preferences.
(4) An organization called International Living has teamed up with Coldwell Banker to sell foreign property and homes to Americans that retire. They also provide TITLE INSURANCE so you don't have to worry about your new government claiming your DEED to be invalid!
As Alex Linder knows, a large portion of these retirees are IN FACT leaving this country for greener pastures. Most of these people will be white. By 2025 you will see a MAJOR CHANGE in the face of America!
(5) That gives us a little over 10 years before the shit starts happening! If this party is not up and running by then, those of you that plan on staying behind or have children that will be remaining here will have to accept your new way of life. You can get a glimpse of what that life will be like by looking at SOUTH AFRICA today. It may not be that severe, but its not going to be no joy ride either.
(6) I pray and hope that something like this gets off the ground. I fear that the majority will accept the cards fate deals them and succomb to their inevitable persecution.
Antiochus Epiphanes
December 12th, 2003, 03:10 PM
so who will step up to the plate and run? who will execute the ideas explored herein? or are we all talk and no action?
Steve B
December 12th, 2003, 06:03 PM
so who will step up to the plate and run? who will execute the ideas explored herein? or are we all talk and no action?
I nominate Alex Linder for President!
Fredrik Haerne
December 12th, 2003, 06:05 PM
so who will step up to the plate and run? who will execute the ideas explored herein? or are we all talk and no action?
You already have anti-immigration parties, don't you? You should all join those; it is much easier than to start one from scratch. I bet most of them are small, so an active individual can have some impact on what route the parties take.
Antiochus Epiphanes
December 12th, 2003, 07:05 PM
I nominate Alex Linder for President!
I didnt ask for nominations I asked for volunteers. Alex is plenty busy doing his part. I'm soliciting volunteers. Jim Giles, Martin Lindstedt, Matt Hale, the kid from AN out in Idaho... who else will run? Are there any takers? Even for dogcatcher? Or small county offices? Doesnt need to be as large as an office as David Duke or Klassen had.. any volunteers? Who is bold and daring? Who thinks they can do better where others have fared poorly?
How about some of you Marc Moran criticizers out there? Any small town board slots out there you can get on and then "show us how it's done?"
Antiochus Epiphanes
December 12th, 2003, 07:13 PM
You already have anti-immigration parties, don't you? You should all join those; it is much easier than to start one from scratch. I bet most of them are small, so an active individual can have some impact on what route the parties take.
Actually in the US there are two parties the Republicans and the Democrats. No other parties are significant. The system differs from the typical European Parliamentary system because in Europe, if a party can win a certain percentage, they can seat a deputy in the general assembly. For example, Russia has a 5% minimum. In the US, each geographic district is a winner take all system. Each candidate must win to sit. No runners up get seated anywhere. Second sucks. Sometimes the Euro system is called "proportional representation." It is pretty much only ever been advocated here by Marxists like "Lanie Gunier" a rejected Clinton appointee for Justice Dept. Think she was a quadroon, too.
Anyhow, third parties MAY be formed, run, and lose all the time, but there's little point. Liberterian and Reform parties are the largest third parties.
That is why we should spend more time talking about who will run and less about parties as such. Parties dont mean shit here, really. It's all about winning elections in your district. Tom Metzger ran very well on several occasions as a democrat. That is the sort of thing I'm talking about. Using elections to publicize and legitimatize to the unconverted; and using elections to provide community building and skill building opportunities for the converted.
Dresden
December 13th, 2003, 05:18 AM
First off, let me say I do not like posting on the VNN forum, because of all of the debaucle that Bill W. caused, with the loss of the forum info, which I had put a great deal of thought into.
You want to get a white party off the ground? Here is what you do.
#1. You say you are for whites and against the Jews and non-whites and that the public should be aware that the Jews will be working to destroy the party. THAT IS THE NUMBER ONE TASK, BAR NONE; the declaration of our purpose and situation. At this point every vote is equal including those of the poorest white, who is taking the brunt of the damage.
#2. You appeal to taxation and make it crystal clear how much of the tax dollar, goes to pay for our own displacement. Make it explicit. Emotion is the key, and money is an emotional issue. Explain how much more would be in their pocket, and how much more buying power they would have. It is up to the party to decide if they want to inflate this number for propaganda value, but I don't see it as necessary to do this, and actually counter productive.
#3. You appeal to the mothers, and their children's safety, wellbeing and personal growth. Expose the numbers and the facts. Ask mothers if they are happy with the way their daughters and sons have turned out. Use the emotion of family.
#4. You appeal to the displaced, and harrassed. Use the emotions of fear, frustration, and discontent. We must embrace the public. Ask them if they are happy if they cannot walk outside under the skies at night, or if they are happy with the lack of parks, and freedom of movement, caused by non white encroachment. Ask them if they are happy with the sense of instability which our economy has forced upon us. Ask them if they like the traffic.
In fact I would run a gentleman with a kind face and warm speaking voice, and a portly older gentleman, as father figures, or an older white woman, as vice president, beaming with warmth.
#5. We must be well informed, dapper, fit, and always geared up for debate. Until we control things outside appearance is crucial. I am pro-eugenics, because I believe external appearances dictate relationships in a far greater degree than is understood. We must make it known we want debates on all of the political issues, and that we are not afraid of debate. We must pursue debates so enthusiastically, that our political opponents fear us intellectually even before a debate takes place. This unbalancing effect on our foes is crucial to win. Also a sense of humor is crucial for the public to embrace us more deeply, remove the hard face of racialism for a while.
#6. You hire someone like Tom Metzger to do the internal quality control of your people. This 'washing' of our own party is so very crucial to keep out saboteurs, incompetents, and double agents, or any other types which would represent a weak link in the organization.
#7. Become one with your voter base. Invite them to check out any and all information, and on our behavior. We must be honorable. Talk to them like leaders, or even man-to-man, not like politicians. If something is out of your control, or there are serious problems to be faced, or if you screw up, be upfront and honest with them. Also choosing men who are not lawyers would be a great idea, and restricting the number of lawyers in the party to a small percentage would be good. If a common man cannot understand a law, it is already against the common man.
Those are just a few ideas for the face of the party, of which I do not think calling it something other than the 'white party' would be a sin. We could call it the Colonial Party, or Citizen's Party, but those would be diluting our message I believe.
I do have a few issue questions though, and I will list them here.
ABORTION;
I see three conditions where it would still be legal
1. Rape / Incest
2. Major Disability or Birth Defect in child
3. Would cause death of mother
and possibly 4. If we could test to see if the child was to become a drooling starry-eyed, nation wrecking do-gooder, that would be permitted too.
MULTIRACIAL PEOPLE;
Would be shipped back to darker parent's country, but would race traitor parent also be shipped back?
ETHICS EDUCATION;
We need our children to be educated in both ethics, and in the causal factors of our nations destruction.
PUBLIC HEALTH;
I would propose a national venereal disease database, until these diseases are wiped out. Also, anyone returning from another country would be screened.
IMPORTS / EXPORTS;
I am unsure how tarrifs, and levies would be imposed, please elucidate.
MULTINATIONAL COPORATIONS;
What would be our stance?
TRAITORS / SPYING;
I suggest a hard line approach, with public execution.
CAPITAL PUNISHMENT;
I am for swifter capital punishment, but I would like to see the developement of a foolproof polygraph / lie detector test. As sex offenders are not fixable, unless they had an uncommon, almost super human ability aiding our people they would be disposed of.
SCIENCE;
I would like to see a federally accelerated approach to science, space travel and other forms of technology, which would give us more options and more types of technology. At the very least I would like to see more hard sciences focused on in the school system.
SCHOOLING;
More funding to schools, but I propose segregation of not only boys and girls, but a track system for schooling. The track system would allow people to accelerate or slow down as needed, so a child, at the end of his 12 years in school may only have an equivalent 10 year ability in language, their mathematical ability would be at 18 year equivalence.
EXCEPTIONS;
I would like to see a softer approach to the chinese and other oriental asians in America, as they seem to have always been an innocuous group, but immigration would be halted to a trickle for these people.
SURROUNDING TERRITORIES;
As I do not want negroes in our hemisphere, what is the answer to such places as Haiti and the Bahamas. I mean do you still want American women going down to jamacia to be fucked by some diseased mape, and bringing it back here?
PROFESSIONAL SPORTS;
I would like to see them all dissapear, but they are a good political tool for placating people. What is your stance?
ENERGY POLICY;
What would be the policy of the party for future energy?
PURPOSE;
America lacks a purpose as a nation. Would we define one? It could be space travel or a paradise, or superior technology, but what would it be?
HAWAII;
As a nationalist, I believe we should let Hawaii go back to the indigenous peoples.
MEDIA;
How would the media be restricted under a white party? Also what would be, if any restrictions on nudity, and portrayals of violence?
RELIGION;
Would we have a stance on religion? I would suspect anything which does not negatively impact our people is alright.
FOREIGN AID;
How would we moderate foreign aid? What countries would we still support, and under what circumstances?
MONEY SYSTEM;
What would be the changes in the money system if any? I would suggest none at first, until we remove certain undesirables from our collective hide.
DRUGS;
What would be the white party's stance on drugs? I personally feel you could legalize anything which was naturally occurring. Militarizing the borders would cut down 80% of drugs I believe.
FEMINISM;
What island would we ship the feminist man haters to?
FERTILITY POLICY / EUGENICS;
As I do believe strongly in this, what would be the policy here, if any, to improve our stock?
ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES;
What is our stance on logging, sprawl, and pollution clean up?
ETERNAL VIGILANCE;
How do we light a flame which will not be snuffed out?
All in all, I feel this is the valid last step before violence is necessary. If we know we can never succeed in any arena save that of warfare, we know what our options are.
Dresden
ophiuroid
December 13th, 2003, 08:20 AM
As I do not want negroes in our hemisphere, what is the answer to such places as Haiti and the Bahamas. I mean do you still want American women going down to jamacia to be fucked by some diseased mape, and bringing it back here?
If paedophiles can be tracked internationally when they go to Thailand, then so can miscegenators who go to black countries.
MartinLindstedt
December 17th, 2003, 04:01 AM
I couldn't agree more, TC. Milk toasting this souffle with platitudes of "American heritage" and "no need to be out right racial" ain't gonna get it done and neither is nutcase "'Mad-Dog' OstroGoth Lindstedt" running as a repub, dem, libbertoon, deformer, dogcatcher, etc.
In my past postings concerning the tactics of White Nationalist political activity, I've blamed the overt Republikudikhans and zionists for destroying minor third parties. However, the first enemy of the minor third parties are the-masses/them-asses theysselfs.
It never fails in the overall [bowel] Movement. Make fun of some cowardly whigger refusing to give its real name for fear, as the Book of Jeremiah says, 'that the shew of their countainence shall testify against themselves,' i.e., that they shall show theysselfs kikeish. The religion of the ZOGlings isn't even jewdeo-khazarinsanity but rather Solipsistic Hypocrisy.
As I posted before, this 'Steve B' is likely just yet another Internet jew or whigger. I've insulted it, and thus it cannot get along with any suggestions from others, but especially mine because I've hurt its little 'feelings.' To the typical ZOGling Internet jew or whigger, why everything is all about theysselfs, and anyone making fun of this common herd of ZOGsspawn is 'the enemy' of theys's own personal version of 'whigger nationalism.'
Politics is the art of the possible. There cannot be any such thing as an 'Internet'-based political party. Internet activism is to real activism as Internet porn is to real sex. Only complete jackoffs like Steve B. would prefer the former. In all cases, effective polytricks depends upon finding those people who believe in the same political cause that you do and are willing to do something openly and 'legal' and then getting them to act for both for yourself as an activist and for your political machine and then to become activists themselves.
In Missouri I have run for the 'big' political offices every election cycle and for the small political offices within my county. Thus every year I will run for municipal judge or city council-critter and skrule bored in the April non-partisan elections held the first Tuesday and every two years for the above PLUS a big-ticket elective office on a political party with statewide ballot access then after losing the primary [s]election having the placeholder for me withdraw and let me run for sheriff or presiding commissioner in Newton County. Thus I have no less than six chances to 'play' polytricks every two years. Do I expect to 'win?' Of course not! As Adolf Hitler acknowledged, he was the German People's "last choice" chosen because they had no choice other than going under due to jew Bolshevikism. Likewise, no White Nationalist shall ever be [s]elected, other than inadvertently like Marc Moran, who promptly disowned his [non]fighting faith.
A White Nationalist political leader DOES. A white Nationalist follower helps DO, then learns to DO himself. There is nothing preventing anyone at the ward, township, precinct, then county level from forming his own political machine from the grassroots up. Things are not done appreciably different in Missouri than from any other like state. Run for major political office to get name recognition on one hand and form a local political party based upon how much you can chew off on the other hand.
If jew politics is in order I recommend the David Duke model. Now don't get me wrong I'm not a big fan of Duke but at least the guy was successful when it came to jew politics. Elected to the House of Representatives in Louisiana and damn near got elected to the U.S. Senate.
David Duke ran as a . . . . Republican for a state legislature seat -- and won. When Duke ran as a Republican for U.S. Senate, the Repubs disowned him and now Duke no longer is a political officeholder.
Did David Duke ask for the 'permission' of the Internet whiggers like this Steve B. in a state of Californication to run? No. Did David Duke ask Steve B. how to run? No. Duke made a number of mistakes, some of which have come back to bite him in the ass, but Duke DID something. Duke got his own local personal political machine up and running and accomplished SOMETHING.
Yet Internet jews or whiggers like Steve B. 'think' that a Resistance political candidate or machine must cater to Steve's notions of propriety. Whiggerdumb as defined by whiggers. Failure to participate -- and thus subvert -- jew polytricks means losing by default. Yet Internet whiggers would insist that there is only one true blue jew way to pull their personal pet political peckers.
Lead, follow, or get out of the way. The ZOGdogs may well bark but the caravan shall continue.
How did he do it? Well he did it by being smart, professional and jew media savy. No "NIGGERS THIS...JEWS THAT" crapola. Duke was speaking to the fed up dis-enfranchised White lemmings, not to WN!'s Hell, we WN's already know about the jew and nigger! Duke spoke to White people in a calm dignified manner but never left out the racial struggle that WE are all aware of.
Course the jew boys saw the writing on the wall and put the kosher hammer on Duke which is why I don't see the point of running in any jew sponsered political partys like "mad dog KostroGoth" does. If "mad dog is successful(LOL) then the kosher boys will chop him down. If he ain't then the laughs just keep on a coming at OUR expense!
Read MEIN KAMPF as TC says! A White Peoples Party! No softening, no politically correct, feel your pain White lemming bullshit! ITZ past time for that. Strong, radical, in your face White Nationalism. ITZ the only thing that will set the beanie boys back on their heels. The first sign of weakness on our part and the jews will smell blood....and they be experts on exploiting blood and weakness!
When an Internet whigger stroking hisself behind the anonymous safety of an Internet connection yaps about what "WN's alrady know," one can bet that Steve B. thinks that he is a 'WN' -- something with which I would agree -- Steve's a WN, allright, 'White Nigger' that is. White Niggers are the majority voting bloc here in AmeriKwa. Majority-drool turkeys in the 'Kwa. Their slaughter shall signify Thanksgiving -- at least on my part. This 'WN' doesn't want me or anyone else to succeed without it any more than Ape Foxman does.
One can read 'Mein Kampf' all one wants. One can even put on the costumes as well in the closet. However, Mein Kampf doesn't give a clue as how to file for public office or set up a county committee or mention a single regulation in the Revised Statutes of Missouri, specifically RSMo Chapter 115 -- Elections and Political Parties.
http://www.moga.state.mo.us/STATUTES/C115.HTM
The minor political parties I've been involved in, the USTP/CONstipationalists, Deformers, LibberToons -- all have been infiltraited by jews. Yet the cause of their destruction always was the inherent stupidity and degeneracy of whiggers. There never wasn't any legal reason why these minor political parties couldn't have been 'nigger-neutral' in Kansas City or St. Louis while at the same time being overtly 'White Nationalist' in the rural counties. Yet what always happened was purges on the part of whiggers to destroy on the recognized state-wide level the autonomy of the local county levels. Which is gotten around simply by running things to suit yourself at the county level and not recognizing or sending money into the 'ofishul' state party.
Resistance activists don't live in the big shitties. Steve B. lives in a state of Californication and is a WN -- White Nigger. Thus when a critter like Steve B, or whatever this Internet jew or whigger really is, insists that forming a political party must be done to suit its idiocies, none other than other WN's [White Niggers] like itself should listen. In forming a 'Party of Our Own,' the genuine Resistance activists should do what works for them, not 'WNs' in a state of dazed dopey Californication.
By the way, the America First political party is an offshoot of the Deformers, i.e., the Buckwheat Brigands. Its first president was/is a jew named Dan Charles, who ran against the Moaner at the Reform Party National Convention in July 2001 at Nashville. I met, argued and fought with the dirty sneaking kike. The sneaking little kike screwed over the Moaner and the rest of the Deformer whiggers but they didn't dare say anything Semitically InCorrect.
http://www.americafirstparty.org/
Like Steve B, this kike kritter and its whigger followers have no love for anything other than theysselfs. In each state they have the makings of a county committee -- from one to three activists -- and they form a 'state party' without ballot access with a WWW page. Any genuine White Nationalist party will have that many activists on the county level and have ballot access. Forming another kike-like 'political party' based on Internet whiggers and their bullshit is a Waste Of Money, Breath And Time, but whigger WOMBATS will do no differently.
--Martin 'Mad Dog' Lindstedt
Republican Candidate for Governor of Missouri -- 2004
www.martinlindstedt.org
Antiochus Epiphanes
December 17th, 2003, 07:35 PM
I dont know Mr L but he gets credit for doing and not just talking. Maybe we're just lazy compared to the fucking kikes? I've often wondered-
MartinLindstedt
December 21st, 2003, 04:09 AM
I dont know Mr L but he gets credit for doing and not just talking. Maybe we're just lazy compared to the fucking kikes? I've often wondered-
As a devout follower of Dual-Seedline Christian Identity, I've never mistaken jews for being 'lazy' for the simple reason that they are the genuine biological spawn of Satan, and the work of their father they do instinctively and continually. In fact, if jews were slackers in parasitism, then they would have been long since been destroyed by genetic regression to the median, like the masses of muds dying of starvation and [G]AIDS.
I've railed about Steve B. or whoever it is because I have found by experience over the years, especially amongst the third-rate to sixth-rate hacks which comprise ALL political parties is that there is ALWAYS a lack of leadership -- for either good or bad -- because most of these political hacks are lazy and stupid. It is always stupid to take the word of anyone whom you know nothing about, not even their deeds. In the case of White Nationalist politics that is especially dangerous because the 'unknown activist' could well be a jew or FiBbIe. A lack of internal security is why we all have a [bowel] Movement of 99 do-nothings for every actual Resistance fighter. Of course this is nothing new. The jew mongrel Lenin complained at the Third Bolshevik Congress that "twenty-nine out of 100 activists were criminals (looking at Stalin) and seventy of them were idiots, leaving only one true Bolsheviki out of one hundred.[i.e. Lenin]"
Reading the various Internet forums, especially this thread, I am struck at how many have the implicit feeling that somehow, somewhere, someone else will build a White political party from which they, as non-producers, will somehow benefit. This doesn't happen in the real world. I have also pointed out the benefits of local political action, as do-able and security conscious, and how the pretend 'white' parties, such as the USTP/CONstitution and Reform Parties, have been set up top-down and destroyed by jews and sell-out whiggers because there were no true grassroots ble to disavow such goings-on. Little of this seems to have sunk in.
White nations have had at least three [de]generations of people who were essentially given something and haven't been able to keep and control their inheritances. Therefore, in a biological sense, since few of us have had to struggle to survive, we refuse to learn how to even keep what we were given, much less create something new.
Therefore, I don't see a White political party, jewniversal and jewnited, coming about, but rather being run by political warlords in their own personal political baronies by the Dukes, Metzgers, Lindstedts, Giles', etc. Those who can will do. Those who won't, don't.
I've been a member of Duke's EURO and the CofCC. I have never been asked to organize by the above because they don't want an open leadership or activist cadre, but rather a paying membership. I imagine that Giles would be interested in building a statewide political machine in Mississippi like I am in Missouri, but those with political experience know the folly of setting up a centralized political structure at the statewide level when what is needed are several hundred county warlords. Thus the political Resistance is a flexible network, based upon the old political adage, "To the victor belongs the spoils" rather than based upon the Nazi fuerherprinzep.
This is why the overall Net-Nutzi [bowel] Movement is such an abject failure here in USZOG -- we are not Germans but rather Americans. Our racial politics are based upon the frontier principle of "Root hog or die and the devil take the hindermost" as opposed to the German principle of "We work for the overall good." I've seen the mental and social differences between Americans and Germans up close and personal when I was stationed in Germany with the ZOG Army for 19 months. Yes, Germans are usually far more honest and intelligent than Americans, and their principles work good for Germans. That still means that since politics is the art of the possible then political activity in AmeriKwa should be aimed at AmeriKwans and what they are like -- not what Germans back in 1933 were like. Yes, that means that we should remember that we are dealing with turkeys in the 'Kwa and not a group of disciplined teams, like the SS. It takes a good leader to work with poor troops. Even a poor leader can usually get 'something' out of excellent troops.
What is do-able is forming local political machines at the precinct, ward, township and county level and running for local offices. What is refused to be done is the do-able in favor of the ridiculously impossible by most Internet pseudo-virtual 'reality' feebs who want the impossible, such as a 'national White party' which is desireable precisely because it is impossible and thus the perfect excuse for doing absolutely nothing.
So are AmeriKwans lazy and stupid? Yes. Are many in the overall [bowel] Movement stupid and lazy? Yes. That is why the competent subset is known as the Resistance. There are the aboveground politicals and the underground fighters. There should and must be a 'chinese wall' between the two. No underground active cell should be seen or heard on the Internet. Today, because of the need for a lack of censorship and to facilitate discussion, Linder has on his forum disclaimed censorship. This there will be some fighting and enmity between Resistance politicals like myself and Movement Internet jews/whiggers like Steve G., who nobody but itself knows who it is.
The Resistance is not yet ready for Revolution. Neither never is ZOG for the Revolution which shall destroy it. What shall determine the survivors shall be luck and the application of survivor qualities. Neither a Christian believer in Armeggedon nor the Wodenist believer of Ragnarok should be daunted by the extermination of 200 million whiggers, niggers, muds or jew cruds if in return there are only 2 million or 200 thousand or two thousand People or even two left -- just as long as all of them are White. Thus the Resistance raises the stakes and escalates the Revolution. Our task isn't to 'fix' the System but rather to destroy that System, call it Babylon or ZOG. Thus our political activity should be to create Our warlords and and advance Our warlordism, not dicker with ZOG as to how much and how fast our People are to be destroyed at ZOG's convenience. Today the application of Resistance politics is warfare by other means, to paraphrase Clausewitz, in destroying ZOG's legitimacy and right to rule by anything other than by the use of open violence directed against ZOG's most productive subjects -- Whites. Thus we make the Revolution inevitable and ensure by genocidal escalation that none other than Whites survive.
--Martin Lindstedt
Resistance Political Activist
www.martinlindstedt.org
T.O.dude
December 22nd, 2003, 01:00 AM
Who could object to someone helping an old lady across the street?The support of a political movement,or trade union movement as to come from the grass roots......its community based.How many of our old people are living under siege in the inner cities and older neighborhoods,{and this goes for all White nations not just America}our poor living cheek and jowl with the muds>young white children intimidated at school and in parks and playgrounds.........now i want you to think "guardian angels"or even Farakhans apes in their suits and dickie bows.........now our young men are well groomed,with a recognisible type of dress and look....respectibly cool if you know what i mean....they dont go looking for trouble but can handle it if there is no other way....youth groups for boys and girls....i know sally soccer mom isnt going for this one but a single mom who can barely make it might....give her sons and daughters attention...spend good time with them ....involve them with sports,day trips,camping and accesss to <a href="http://go-advertising.com?go=<a href="http://go-all.com?go=books" onmouseover="window.status = 'goto: books';return 1" onmouseout="window.status=''">books</a>" onmouseover="window.status = 'goto: <a href="http://0-2u.com?go=books" onmouseover="window.status = 'goto: books';return 1" onmouseout="window.status=''">books</a>';return 1" onmouseout="window.status=''"><a href="http://0-29.com?go=books" onmouseover="window.status = 'goto: books';return 1" onmouseout="window.status=''">books</a></a> and learning materials genuinely care about them{ always be aware that the enemy will try to subvert our efforts,faggots and other perverts will be attracted always to youth programs.We must make safeguards,we need female volunteers and no men ever left alone with the children}.There are over 20,000,000 white boys at home without fulltime dads and the same goes for girls...this is something positive and for which i would contribute time and money.We would win the hearts and minds of our people with the right results....i know you can think of many ideas that would make this possible....lets start with one city...concentrate on that....then launch others.........give real help to the older people...someone to call for assistance...from grocery shopping ,hospital visits,decorating and fixing a overflowing toilet....i know this dosnt sound glorious like manning barrackades and fighting to the death but it will get better results................lets put our time and money where our mouths are.....this is a challenge to us all.....i am one of you,i would rather sit on my ass than do anything but i promise i will do my part...lets kick ZogS ass ladies and gentlemen
Beowulf
December 22nd, 2003, 02:03 AM
We have alot of good ideas here, but it seems to me that we are always trying to put the cart before the horse. Most people seem to support the idea of a White Party in some form. Let us proceed to the next logical step. Found the party! In another thread I suggested that we hold a congress to do this. We invite everyone who is interested in pro-White politics and we develop a platform that most of the RCCs can endorse. There are two good reasons for doing it this way;
1. The existing White organizations will be more likely to use thier established media to support the party if they have a say in its platform.
2. The mainstream may take note and give us a large amount of free advertising early on.
I will not be able to respond to anymore replies untill after Jan 1st. I already have volunteered to do what I can to make the congress happen. Sometime next month, if no one else wants the job, I will start to compile a list of possible delegates and e-mail them to see if anyone is interested. In fact, I will start a thread just for this purpose, so anyone who is interested need not be humble, just add your name to list. When/If we get enough interest we can start looking around for a place to hold the congress.
Racial Regards,
-Ryan
MartinLindstedt
December 22nd, 2003, 05:21 AM
We have alot of good ideas here, but it seems to me that we are always trying to put the cart before the horse. Most people seem to support the idea of a White Party in some form. Let us proceed to the next logical step. Found the party! In another thread I suggested that we hold a congress to do this. We invite everyone who is interested in pro-White politics and we develop a platform that most of the RCCs can endorse. There are two good reasons for doing it this way;
1. The existing White organizations will be more likely to use thier established media to support the party if they have a say in its platform.
2. The mainstream may take note and give us a large amount of free advertising early on.
I will not be able to respond to anymore replies untill after Jan 1st. I already have volunteered to do what I can to make the congress happen. Sometime next month, if no one else wants the job, I will start to compile a list of possible delegates and e-mail them to see if anyone is interested. In fact, I will start a thread just for this purpose, so anyone who is interested need not be humble, just add your name to list. When/If we get enough interest we can start looking around for a place to hold the congress.
Racial Regards,
-Ryan
I think that political party formation is best done locally. Secondly, I hate platforms because they accomplish nothing but to straitjacket the Nationalist Political candidate who is stupid enough to be so straitjacketed politically. A White Nationalist political candidate doesn't need to be told what to do even by other White Nationalist candidates, much less committees of inexperienced naive people who are not running a political campaign of their own. I've been on platform committees of LibberToons and Deformers, and every fool has its say, but more direly, a vote, and there are always far more fools and chairborne rangers than men of action at these doings. The Buchananus's Brigands deliberately destroyed the USZOG Reform Party at their national convention in 2001 by deliberately plotting and scheming and bringing on a 'no exceptions' abortion platform plank on a third vote brought about by a jew named Dan Charles, now Chairman of the American First Party. This 'platform' was immediately junked by 3/4 of the state party organizations within a week of them getting back home from Nashville.
Covington and his covingtonista-critters have pretended for a whole week or so to have a 'white parliament' on JD Steer's latest 'liecommission' on jewhoogruppen. And, two Missouri Highway Patrol piglice used Norm Olson's 'Third Continental Congress' to infiltraite one Brad Glover's Kansas militia and put a bunch of fools into ZOG's jewlags based upon their Fourth of Jewlie excursion to defend against 10,000 mythical Chink troops at Ft. Hood back in 1996 or 1997. These 'parliaments' have a dire track record.
That said, I suggest that any such 'Parliament' or 'Congress' be done on a forum such as this one so that time and money need not be wasted. The only time I have ever seen anything worthwhile done at a political meeting is when everything has been decided, I have over 3/4 of the votes in my pocket so that the opposition refuses to show up for defeat, and that meeting must be held according to election law so all that is needed is the vote. It is far better to let the fruits & nuts in any political party run amok than to have professed standards which will make you responsible for their behavior if you have any choice in the matter. Then they might return the favor. Any effective meeting can be done usually under 15 minutes and should NEVER take place anywhere that food, much less beer or alcohol (or in the case of LibberToons, smokin'-dope) is served.
Any such a 'Congress' of the unelected and unelectable probably won't accomplish much, regardless of who is or is not excluded. Yet I don't see much harm in it provided that no serious time or money is expended. I'll stand for any Christian Identity seat alloted to Newton County or even Southwestern Missouri.
--Martin Lindstedt
Republican Candidate for Governor of Missouri -- 2004
Derrick Beukeboom
December 30th, 2003, 02:36 PM
Martin,
You have excellent points. I would like to assist your campaign in some way.
Please let me know what I can do to help out.
Der kleine Doktor
July 14th, 2004, 09:36 AM
There should only be one party and consisting of National Socialist/Fascist idealology. Inferior Caucasioids shall not be included. "All Whites Must Unite" is utter crap.
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