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John in Woodbridge
July 11th, 2004, 11:24 AM
Here are some pics of the Miss World contest. Who would you consider white and not white? Here are my choices:
Miss Albanian
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/albania.jpg
Miss Angola
(not white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/angola.jpg
Miss Antigua
(not white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/antiqua.jpg
Miss Aruba
(not white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/aruba.jpg
Miss Australia
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/australia.jpg
Miss Bahamas
(not white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/bahamas.jpg
Miss Belgium
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/belgium.jpg
Miss Belize
(not white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/belize.jpg
Miss Bolivia
(not white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/bolivia.jpg
Miss Bulgaria
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/bulgaria.jpg
Miss Canada
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/canada.jpg
Miss Cayman Islands
(not white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/cayman.jpg
Miss China
(not white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/china.jpg
Miss Columbia
(close, but not white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/columbia.jpg
Miss Costa Rica
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/costa.jpg
Miss Croatia
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/croatia.jpg
Miss Cyprus
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/cyprus.jpg
Miss Czech Republic
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/czech.jpg
Miss Dominican Republic
(close, but not white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/dominican.jpg
Miss Egypt
(not white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/egypt.jpg
Miss El Salvador
(close, but not white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/elsalvador.jpg
Miss Estonia
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/estonia.jpg
Miss France
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/france.jpg
Miss Germany
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/germany.jpg
Miss Greece
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/greece.jpg
Miss Guyanna
(not white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/guyanna.jpg
John in Woodbridge
July 11th, 2004, 11:25 AM
Miss Hungary
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/hungary.jpg
Miss Iceland
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/iceland.jpg
Miss Ireland
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/ireland.jpg
Miss Israel
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/israel.jpg
Miss Italy
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/italy.jpg
Miss Japan
(not white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/japan.jpg
Miss Korea
(cute, but not white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/korea.jpg
Miss Malaysia
(not white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/malasia.jpg
Miss Mexico
(close, but not white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/mexico.jpg
Miss Nambia
(not white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/namibia.jpg
John in Woodbridge
July 11th, 2004, 11:27 AM
Miss Netherlands
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/netherlands.jpg
Miss Nicaragua
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/nicaragua.jpg
Miss Nigeria
(not white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/nigeria.jpg
Miss Norway
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/norway.jpg
Miss Peru
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/peru.jpg
Miss Phillipines
(not white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/phillipines.jpg
Miss Poland
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/poland.jpg
Miss Russia
(strange choice for Russia, but doesn't seem white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/russia.jpg
Miss South Africa
(white, hopefully she's left before getting raped by niggers)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/sa.jpg
Miss Serbia
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/serbia.jpg
Miss Singapore
(not white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/singapore.jpg
Miss Slovenia
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/slovenia.jpg
Miss Spain
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/spain.jpg
Miss Switzerland
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/switzerland.jpg
Miss Thailand
(cute, but not white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/thailand.jpg
Miss Ukraine
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/ukraine.jpg
Miss USA
(not white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/usa.jpg
Karl Ramstrom
July 11th, 2004, 12:31 PM
And the winner is....
Miss Belgium!
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/belgium.jpg
diabloblanco92
July 11th, 2004, 12:33 PM
Miss Netherlands
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/netherlands.jpg
Miss Nicaragua
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/nicaragua.jpg
Miss Nigeria
(not white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/nigeria.jpg
Miss Norway
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/norway.jpg
Miss Peru
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/peru.jpg
Miss Phillipines
(not white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/phillipines.jpg
Miss Poland
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/poland.jpg
Miss Russia
(strange choice for Russia, but doesn't seem white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/russia.jpg
Miss South Africa
(white, hopefully she's left before getting raped by niggers)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/sa.jpg
Miss Serbia
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/serbia.jpg
Miss Singapore
(not white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/singapore.jpg
Miss Slovenia
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/slovenia.jpg
Miss Spain
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/spain.jpg
Miss Switzerland
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/switzerland.jpg
Miss Thailand
(cute, but not white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/thailand.jpg
Miss Ukraine
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/ukraine.jpg
Miss USA
(not white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/usa.jpg
My fav (though it was a hard choice) is Miss Nicaragua
diablo
Der Henker
July 11th, 2004, 01:13 PM
I know Costa Rica was a Spanish posession but know little else of its history as far as racial blood lines go. Miss Costa Rica was listed as white and looks so to me as does actress Madeline Stowe (http://entertainment.msn.com/celebs/celeb.aspx?c=343486) whose father was British and mother was Costa Rican.
http://derhenker.front.ru/madelinenew1.jpg
She's 45 now and not quite the kitten as she is in this pic but has retained her beauty rather well IMO.
John in Woodbridge
July 11th, 2004, 01:26 PM
Certainly plenty of honeys in this group by some of my favorites are:
Miss Croatia
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/croatia.jpg
Miss Greece
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/greece.jpg
Miss Hungary
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/hungary.jpg
Miss Israel (sorry, got to be honest)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/israel.jpg
and Miss South Africa
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/sa.jpg
Abzug Hoffman
July 11th, 2004, 01:27 PM
http://www.1stnetllc.com/russianwife1/MissRussia/ElmiraTuyusheva/ElmiraTuyushwva04.jpg
Sheva girl! And there's probably quite a few of them mixed in here. Most of these blondies seem to have got their hair color out of a bottle, the Judeo-Whore look.
Subrosa
July 11th, 2004, 04:31 PM
Miss USA looks like your typical California girl.
Vivaodio
July 11th, 2004, 05:12 PM
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/costa.jpg
You gotta be kidding me, that woman is a mestiza. I know my people and I'm telling you that's not even close to a Spanish woman.
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/dominican.jpg
That woman is not even close to being white, not by any stretch of the imagination. She's from a country that's 99.9% pure negro, the other.1% being light skinned mulattos like her. I met a couple of her family members in the Dominican in the country side at a town called "Moca" who told me that she spent years in Venezuela working on her poise and getting nose surgery to slim her bridge. She's related (by marriage) to a great legendary Latin American singer called Juan Luis Guerra. Believe me, she is as mulatta as they come.
http://www.ananova.com/images/web/57136.jpg
The beady black eyes and the nigger lips say it all.
Vivaodio
July 11th, 2004, 05:24 PM
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/israel.jpg
Thats a filthy Jew, not White in my book.
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/nicaragua.jpg
Shes very suspicious. Her country is notoriously Mestizo and mulatto and I've seen a heck of a lot of Whiter looking mestizos than her.
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/peru.jpg
Also suspicious. THe hair color is from a bottle and again her country is notoriously NW, more so than Mexico. Alleged South AMerican "Whites" always raise a suspicion not just because of the obvious demographics, but the overall lack of racial awareness in most people. THe South Americans I'm least likely to question are Argentinians. That country has always had an overwhelming White majority, but things have sadly gotten a lot worst because of the waves of mestizos that are immigrating.
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/elsalvador.jpg
That doesn't look at all. Vanessa Williams looks less negrid than her.
Ceallachain
July 11th, 2004, 05:36 PM
Beauty contestant or not ... niggers are ugly. :D
Vivaodio
July 11th, 2004, 05:36 PM
ANd my Choice is.....
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/belgium.jpg
And Honorable Mention goes to:
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/hungary.jpg
diabloblanco92
July 11th, 2004, 07:15 PM
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/costa.jpg
You gotta be kidding me, that woman is a mestiza. I know my people and I'm telling you that's not even close to a Spanish woman.
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/dominican.jpg
That woman is not even close to being white, not by any stretch of the imagination. She's from a country that's 99.9% pure negro, the other.1% being light skinned mulattos like her. I met a couple of her family members in the Dominican in the country side at a town called "Moca" who told me that she spent years in Venezuela working on her poise and getting nose surgery to slim her bridge. She's related (by marriage) to a great legendary Latin American singer called Juan Luis Guerra. Believe me, she is as mulatta as they come.
http://www.ananova.com/images/web/57136.jpg
The beady black eyes and the nigger lips say it all.
Oh come on, not even Haiti is 99.9% pure Black(It has a 5% Mulato population) The DR is officially listed as 16% White, 73% Mulato and 11% Black. I agree that the Black figure is understated, and the White figure is overstated, but you are engaging in the sort of silly and phantasmagoric exxageration that drives intelligent Whites away from our movement in droves.
diablo
diabloblanco92
July 11th, 2004, 07:20 PM
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/israel.jpg
Thats a filthy Jew, not White in my book.
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/nicaragua.jpg
Shes very suspicious. Her country is notoriously Mestizo and mulatto and I've seen a heck of a lot of Whiter looking mestizos than her.
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/peru.jpg
Also suspicious. THe hair color is from a bottle and again her country is notoriously NW, more so than Mexico. Alleged South AMerican "Whites" always raise a suspicion not just because of the obvious demographics, but the overall lack of racial awareness in most people. THe South Americans I'm least likely to question are Argentinians. That country has always had an overwhelming White majority, but things have sadly gotten a lot worst because of the waves of mestizos that are immigrating.
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/elsalvador.jpg
That doesn't look at all. Vanessa Williams looks less negrid than her.
This game is getting pretty tired,,,Alleged Spainard that spends 100% of his time attacking other Meds. I smell a "Nordish" troll.
diablo
diabloblanco92
July 11th, 2004, 07:29 PM
Miss Netherlands
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/netherlands.jpg
Miss Nicaragua
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/nicaragua.jpg
Miss Nigeria
(not white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/nigeria.jpg
Miss Norway
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/norway.jpg
Miss Peru
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/peru.jpg
Miss Phillipines
(not white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/phillipines.jpg
Miss Poland
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/poland.jpg
Miss Russia
(strange choice for Russia, but doesn't seem white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/russia.jpg
Miss South Africa
(white, hopefully she's left before getting raped by niggers)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/sa.jpg
Miss Serbia
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/serbia.jpg
Miss Singapore
(not white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/singapore.jpg
Miss Slovenia
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/slovenia.jpg
Miss Spain
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/spain.jpg
Miss Switzerland
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/switzerland.jpg
Miss Thailand
(cute, but not white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/thailand.jpg
Miss Ukraine
(white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/ukraine.jpg
Miss USA
(not white)
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/usa.jpg
Miss Thailand is not White,but she does show a good amount of White admixture. If this is not from recent times, this tends to support the theory that even Arthur Kemp suggested of Aryan migrations reaching remarkably far east.
diablo
John in Woodbridge
July 11th, 2004, 07:46 PM
Miss Costa Rica looks white to me, or not enough admixture to quibble about
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/costa.jpg
Miss Dominican Republic is not white, but certainly not even close to a boolie.
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/dominican.jpg
I think it's silly to make an issue of these two:
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/nicaragua.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/peru.jpg
Whether Sivan Klein (Miss Israel) is white or not, I wouldn't kick her out of bed.
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/sivan1.jpg
Nordblod
July 11th, 2004, 08:20 PM
Some gentle prodding seems to do the trick just fine with most women. Though they, for some unfathomable reason, tend to get huffy about the whole thing.
JohnJizmTree
July 12th, 2004, 01:03 PM
Some gentle prodding seems to do the trick just fine with most women. Though they, for some unfathomable reason, tend to get huffy about the whole thing.
Apart from an aesthetic visual scrutinisation of the broads shown, another bad giveaway about black women is - heck they always smell bad.
Secondly, without wishin to be indelicate, a quick empirical check of the 'pink bits' (not shown for reasons of good taste in the 'flics posted) will always tell youwhich are black women [unless the black woman concerned has been ritually circumscribulated]. Oh Lordy Lordy me. :eek:
Vivaodio
July 12th, 2004, 01:33 PM
This game is getting pretty tired,,,Alleged Spainard that spends 100% of his time attacking other Meds. I smell a "Nordish" troll.
diablo
Say what you want but I defend my kind from stereotypes that are perpetuated by Latin American "Whites" who have a tendency to deny their NW ancestry and try and pass for European. As for the Dominican, believe me, If you've never been to that country you wouldn't have any clue what I'm talking about. That country is chock full of niggers, the likes of which would be lucky to call themselves mulatto. And yes you are right the CIA facts are way overstated, similarly they claim that Puerto Rico is 85% White. Just goes to show how credible they are.
Anima Eternae
July 12th, 2004, 02:20 PM
Miss Thailand is not White,but she does show a good amount of White admixture. If this is not from recent times, this tends to support the theory that even Arthur Kemp suggested of Aryan migrations reaching remarkably far east.
diablo
This isn't the case, at least not in Thailand. Thailand is 75% ethnic Thai, yet my people control over 60% of the entertainment industry. North and East asian countries don't have this, but for some reason, lots of South East asian countries worship us.
In Bangkok, where the local skin trade has spawned a multitude of luk kreung, or half-children, the once-despised offspring now control an estimated 60% of the entertainment industry...Fashionistas love the new Eurasian world. Top Asian modeling agencies can't stock enough mixed-blooded girls, and many have begun scouting for Eurasian models in Europe and the U.S. to bring back East.
The luk kreung (eurasian) crowd tend to hang tight, dining, drinking and dating together. "We understand each other," says Nicole Terio, one of the group...But the luk kreung's close-knit community and Western-stoked confidence sometimes elicits grumbles from other Thais, who also resent their stranglehold on the entertainment industry. The ultimate blow came a few years back when Thailand sent a blue-eyed woman to the Miss World competition. Sirinya Winsiri, also known as Cynthia Carmen Burbridge, beat out another half-Thai, half-American for the coveted Miss Thailand spot. "Luk kreung have made it very difficult for normal Thais to compete," gripes a Bangkok music mogul.
Miss Burbridge below:
http://www.filenote.com/redir/15433.jpg
http://www.filenote.com/redir/15434.jpg
http://www.filenote.com/redir/15435.jpg
I think I might have to move to Hawaii or some SE asian country for find a nice EA girl. (sigh)
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John in Woodbridge
July 12th, 2004, 06:14 PM
This isn't the case, at least not in Thailand. Thailand is 75% ethnic Thai, yet my people control over 60% of the entertainment industry. North and East asian countries don't have this, but for some reason, lots of South East asian countries worship us.
In Bangkok, where the local skin trade has spawned a multitude of luk kreung, or half-children, the once-despised offspring now control an estimated 60% of the entertainment industry...Fashionistas love the new Eurasian world. Top Asian modeling agencies can't stock enough mixed-blooded girls, and many have begun scouting for Eurasian models in Europe and the U.S. to bring back East.
The luk kreung (eurasian) crowd tend to hang tight, dining, drinking and dating together. "We understand each other," says Nicole Terio, one of the group...But the luk kreung's close-knit community and Western-stoked confidence sometimes elicits grumbles from other Thais, who also resent their stranglehold on the entertainment industry. The ultimate blow came a few years back when Thailand sent a blue-eyed woman to the Miss World competition. Sirinya Winsiri, also known as Cynthia Carmen Burbridge, beat out another half-Thai, half-American for the coveted Miss Thailand spot. "Luk kreung have made it very difficult for normal Thais to compete," gripes a Bangkok music mogul.
Miss Burbridge below:
http://www.filenote.com/redir/15433.jpg
http://www.filenote.com/redir/15434.jpg
http://www.filenote.com/redir/15435.jpg
I think I might have to move to Hawaii or some SE asian country for find a nice EA girl. (sigh)
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Interesting mix. Don't see much of an Asian influence, but those genes are probably not very dominant.
Anima Eternae
July 12th, 2004, 07:16 PM
Really? Ideally, our people shouldn't look asian OR white....I think Ms. Burbridge looks about 50/50 split, maybe 60/40 leaning white. But genetics are never certain. I think Ms. Kreuk below looks about 50/50.
http://www.filenote.com/redir/15537.jpg
http://www.filenote.com/redir/15536.jpg
Okay, no more pictures. I promise. It's just self-torture anyways...argh.
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John in Woodbridge
July 12th, 2004, 07:54 PM
Really? Ideally, our people shouldn't look asian OR white....I think Ms. Burbridge looks about 50/50 split, maybe 60/40 leaning white. But genetics are never certain. I think Ms. Kreuk below looks about 50/50.
http://www.filenote.com/redir/15537.jpg
http://www.filenote.com/redir/15536.jpg
Okay, no more pictures. I promise. It's just self-torture anyways...argh.
...
Apparently in the Asian community white genetics are a premium, just as it is with the niggers and muds. Eurasians are highly sought after in Asian modeling agencies.
Burbridge's mother is Thai and India, father American. I suspect the father is a Scandavian Nord type to give her the blue eyes.
Anima Eternae
July 12th, 2004, 08:04 PM
Apparently in the Asian community white genetics are a premium, just as it is with the niggers and muds.
It depends on the country. In Japan, China, Korea, and even Vietnam, they think caucasian hair and eyes are awesome, but they would never want one in their bloodline. Granted, they dislike white genes the least, but they wouldn't want it part of them. Lots of the north/east asians still view whites as "hairy western barbarians".
In the "lower" Southeast asian countries, they do actually want to be eurasian (Thailand, Philippines, etc...) The sooner my people get it through their thick skulls that we are not asians or white, the better.
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John in Woodbridge
July 12th, 2004, 08:46 PM
Still interesting how she (Burbridge) was able to retain that blue an eye color. My father has pale hazel eyes (I posted his pic in this folder) and my mother has dark brown ones, giving me a light gold color. I suppose it has to do with recessive genes.
Eurasians are used in Japanese animation. This is the character Dr. Aki Ross from Final Fantasy, probably the most amazing animated film I've seen.
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/aki1.jpg
Anima Eternae
July 12th, 2004, 08:52 PM
Still interesting how she (Burbridge) was able to retain that blue an eye color. My father has pale hazel eyes (I posted his pic in this folder) and my mother has dark brown ones, giving me a light gold color. I suppose it has to do with recessive genes.
Eurasians are used in Japanese animation. This is the character Dr. Aki Ross from Final Fantasy, probably the most amazing animated film I've seen.
I have it sitting on my computer (like tons of other things), but I haven't watched it. If it's that good, I'll definately have to look at it sometime soon.
Yeah, genes can be funny things. My dad has blue eyes, my mom has dark brown ones, and I got hit with a weird green. Unfortunately, it only looks green if you actually look at it closely.
http://server6.uploadit.org/files/AnimaEternae-eye.jpg
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Jack
July 13th, 2004, 12:23 PM
My personal favorite, Miss Germany :)
http://www.picgoo.com/uploads7/germany.jpg
I'd give miss Columbia the benifit of the doubt, or at least ask to see pictures of the family. ;)
http://www.picgoo.com/uploads7/columbia.jpg
Miss Egypt is at least CLOSE to being White, don't you think?
http://www.picgoo.com/uploads7/egypt.jpg
Vivaodio
July 13th, 2004, 12:52 PM
My personal favorite, Miss Germany :)
Miss Egypt is at least CLOSE to being White, don't you think?
http://www.picgoo.com/uploads7/egypt.jpg
Not at all. Funny enough she looks distinctly Mexican, as in beaner-Mexican.
John in Woodbridge
July 13th, 2004, 06:27 PM
My personal favorite, Miss Germany :)
http://www.picgoo.com/uploads7/germany.jpg
I'd give miss Columbia the benifit of the doubt, or at least ask to see pictures of the family. ;)
http://www.picgoo.com/uploads7/columbia.jpg
Miss Egypt is at least CLOSE to being White, don't you think?
http://www.picgoo.com/uploads7/egypt.jpg
The one's I've listed as "close" are inconsequential considering the abundance of blatantly non-whites in traditionally white countries. I'm not one that gets hung up on purity, of course the percentage of acceptable admixture depends on the admixture.
Fredrik Haerne
July 21st, 2004, 05:23 PM
They managed to turn Final Fantasy into nothing more than the usual Hollywood propaganda. Fantastic how they do it every time.
The Thai, it seems, admire Germanics. I had a Thai girl tell me they have a special word for light-skinned Europeans, a word of honor which I have forgotten. "The dark Europeans like Spanish we don't like" she said and wrinkled her nose.
I have encountered several Thai who are fiercely proud of their country; the story goes "We started out without a land and took one for ourselves, and then we defeated all the enemies around us who attacked us. We have never been colonized, and Japan didn't attack us because we weren't a colony. We are the most beautiful Asian people too." They hate Chinese, it seems; not unusual, since Chinese minorities control the economies of the South-East Asian nations.
Anima Eternae
July 21st, 2004, 05:42 PM
The Thai, it seems, admire Germanics. I had a Thai girl tell me they have a special word for light-skinned Europeans, a word of honor which I have forgotten. "The dark Europeans like Spanish we don't like" she said and wrinkled her nose.
Indeed. Also being Luk Kreung (eurasian) is a huge boost in Thailand (and the Philippines/Hong Kong).
I have encountered several Thai who are fiercely proud of their country; the story goes "We started out without a land and took one for ourselves, and then we defeated all the enemies around us who attacked us. We have never been colonized, and Japan didn't attack us because we weren't a colony. We are the most beautiful Asian people too." They hate Chinese, it seems; not unusual, since Chinese minorities control the economies of the South-East Asian nations.
Yes, but Thailand stayed independent through good negotiations, not battles. I do think Thai and North Vietnamese are the best looking asians, although the Japs can be cute. Korean women's face are nasty. Thais and Vietnamese are relatively light skinned until you start going South near Malayasia.
I find it funny that they view themselves as the best looking asians (which I partially agree with), yet they worship my people and we dominate the entertainment industry.
There's lots of interasian racism. I for one, hate the Filipinos/Malays/Indonesians/Cambodians more than the Chinese. Ghastly muds. But your point stands correct about the Chinese.
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Shapur
July 21st, 2004, 05:53 PM
They managed to turn Final Fantasy into nothing more than the usual Hollywood propaganda. Fantastic how they do it every time.
The Thai, it seems, admire Germanics. I had a Thai girl tell me they have a special word for light-skinned Europeans, a word of honor which I have forgotten. "The dark Europeans like Spanish we don't like" she said and wrinkled her nose.
Sure they don`t like dark skinned Aryans! I will say why.
The Germans have marrige about 50.000-100.000 Thai women and every Thai-German family get more then 2-3 children.
This is called RACEMIXING!
The south Europeans or how these Mongolian muds of Thais call them
can not marrige with south Europeans because we so called darkies shit on these Mongoloid Thais.
Do you real think it is a matter for me what Mongoloids think about me?
I will overrun them with my race, you can assimilate them because they think you are so superior. Only those poeple are superior who know that Aryans don`t need any words that they are superior because they are superiors! :D
Anima Eternae
July 21st, 2004, 05:55 PM
Fredrik wasn't advocating mixing with them, he was just stating what they think. You're being a bit reactionary.
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Fredrik Haerne
July 21st, 2004, 05:58 PM
Did the shigger say something?
Of course, as all sensible people know, the Thai are far more goodlooking than the extraordinarily ugly Indians and other Persian muds. And probably far more creative and intelligent too. The shigger demonstrates what a lowly Persian miscegenated mud is like, and all they can do is pop out more shitlings, live in overcrowded poverty, and kill each other. No wonder Whites prefer the company of Thais if they would have to choose.
Shapur
July 21st, 2004, 06:16 PM
http://www.auslaender-statistik.de/
These countries where these women come from who marrige with German men!
Thailand: 34.875
Phililppinen: 24.672
This make ~60.000 importet women!
And know when we think about these who are get a german passport.
So we can speak from about ~140.000!
This make ~200.000 women who have a german man and get 2-3 children!
This would be 500.000 children. By a population of 80.000.000 would this make 0.625% of the population of Germany.
Then we must calculate that mostly all these children will marrige and get an own family with 2-3 children. This is a normal rate for children of Thais and Philippinians. When we calculate this then we must:
500.000(German/Thai.Phip) and 500.000 Germans.
They marrige mostly with Germans because they feel as Germans and not as foreigns.
This would make 1 million people. With 2-3 children of every family this would make.
2.5 million. All this would make:
2.5 million + 1 million + 400.000:
3.9 million!
This would be ~5% of the total population of Germany.
Know we will calculate the geneticial factor.
Women get only men. No german woman would marrige a Thai.Phip man!
Genetical this mean only the mtDNA will survive of Thai.Phip origin.
The first generation will have 100% paternal German and 100% maternal Thai.Phip! In a genetic test this would mean:(100% Caucasoid paternal HGs, and 100% Mongoloid maternal HGs).
The second generation will have 100% paternal and 50% maternal.
In a test this would mean (100% Caucasoid paternal HGs, 50% Mongoloid HGs and 50% Caucasoid HGs).
These 2.5 million would mix with other Germans.
Third generation: 5 million (12.5% Mongoloid blood)
4th genartion: 10 million (6.25% Mongoloid blood)
5th genration: 20 million (~3% Mongoloid blood).
After 5 generations and only when they marrige with pure Germans the Mongoloid blood will be by 3%!
But this is impossible because pure Germans will be rare in Germany.
This would mean that the % of Mongoloid blood in the most Germans will be between 20%! When we know calculate all other non-Caucasoid foreigns) then the result will be that Germany will be after 5 Generations this is in the year 2100 ~25% Mongoloid, 15% Negroid, 5% Australoid.
The Germans will be only 55% of Caucasoid origin.
This to the nordish superior! I find this very sad, but the Nordists think that they must attack Iranians(btw the Iranians will be in the year 2100 the 4th bigest nation on this earth and they will have a rate of Caucasoid blood of over 95%"the most European nations have today so arroun 95% Caucasoid blood").
:mad:
These children will mix
Anima Eternae
July 21st, 2004, 06:18 PM
Shapur, are actually IMPLYING that Eurasians are a demographic threat in the West?
LOL
I think that honuor belongs to the Mexicans and the Arab/Turks.
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Shapur
July 21st, 2004, 06:22 PM
Shapur, are actually IMPLYING that Eurasians are a demographic threat in the West?
LOL
I think that honuor belongs to the Mexicans and the Arab/Turks.
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Wrong! Iranians have the highest birth rate. Iranians don`t marrige:
Mongoloids(only Japanese).
Negroids(never!!!).
Australoids(never!!!).
South-Americans(never!!!).
Americans(only when they are Caucasoid).
Turks
Arabs
So ask your self how many nations are accepted by north Europeans?
We Iranians are pretty racists. Our communist are also racist.
Ask an Iranian communist would he give his daughter an Arab, a Turk or a Negroid/Mongoloid? He would answer: "We are all humans but I will the best for my daughter so NEVER!!!".
This is the reality and you know this but you can not accept this because it would show that you ideology is wrong! ;)
Fredrik Haerne
July 21st, 2004, 06:29 PM
Uh? What did that have to do with anything? Once again the shigger shows the inferiority of the miscegenated, hairy, darkling mud population called Persians, good only for attacking Jews but nothing else. He can't even stick to the topic. A one-act show with nothing more to say than "I am great, I am great!" Tends to get old after he has said that but nothing else in thread after thread ever since he got here. Then again, what to expect from the inferiors? They are ill-informed on almost any issue, so they can't participate in many discussions.
Kamangir42
July 25th, 2004, 08:22 PM
Did the shigger say something?
Of course, as all sensible people know, the Thai are far more goodlooking than the extraordinarily ugly Indians and other Persian muds. And probably far more creative and intelligent too. The shigger demonstrates what a lowly Persian miscegenated mud is like, and all they can do is pop out more shitlings, live in overcrowded poverty, and kill each other. No wonder Whites prefer the company of Thais if they would have to choose.
You know it's funny you said, on another thread, that it was a low form of behaviour to misquote another poster's nick. This is something you have done repeatedly to Shapur and even to me. I suppose you live up to your standards. :D
The truth is, if you weren't just a pathetic troll, that some Thais are handsome/beautiful and some aren't. Similarly, some Iranians are handsome/beautiful while others aren't.
What I can say for sure is that Iran's contribution to civilisation is immense and far outweighs that of Thailand. Iranians are widely regarded as creative. We are renowned as poets, artists and architects.
I'd also like you to prove that "Persians" are "muds" and "miscegenated". Can you do that or will you just try to create a diversion so fitting of the the "Jewish Marxists" whom you decry for such behaviour? I bet you will just worm your way out of it. You'd have to be man to do otherwise.
By the way, Iran (40/km^2) is far less crowded than many of your "superior" European countries like Germany (233), the UK (244) or even Ireland (55).
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population_density
Do you ever speak with facts or do you confine yourself to conversing out of your backside?
Nordblod
July 25th, 2004, 08:31 PM
You know it's funny you said, on another thread, that it was a low form of behaviour to misquote another poster's nick. This is something you have done repeatedly to Shapur and even to me. I suppose you live up to your standards. :D
Care to exemplify?
Kamangir42
July 25th, 2004, 08:34 PM
Uh? What did that have to do with anything? Once again the shigger shows the inferiority of the miscegenated, hairy, darkling mud population called Persians, good only for attacking Jews but nothing else. He can't even stick to the topic. A one-act show with nothing more to say than "I am great, I am great!" Tends to get old after he has said that but nothing else in thread after thread ever since he got here. Then again, what to expect from the inferiors? They are ill-informed on almost any issue, so they can't participate in many discussions.
I think Shapur was trying to say that, if current breeding trends continue, Germany will be significantly Mongoloid in a few generations. He thinks that is a bad thing whereas I could not care less. As you said you like the Thais, I imagine this will please you no end. Perhaps you could import a few to Sweden and get the ball rolling there as well, huh?
Of course, I would not expect you to understand any of this. I doubt you have the capacity. I really do think that you describe yourself well:
[Fredrik is] ill-informed on almost any issue, so [he] can't participate in many discussions.
Bravo!
Kamangir42
July 25th, 2004, 08:44 PM
Care to exemplify?
"Shigger" is quite clearly a play on Shapur's nick. Previously, he has also called me "Kamratgi" when my nick is clearly Kamangir. The proof of the former can be observed in this thread, the proof of the latter can be found at http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=7139&page=16&pp=10:
*sigh* For the ignorant darklings whose posts are not favored by fact-checking, here are a few countries with higher suicide rates than Sweden:
Lithuania, Russia, Belarus, Latvia, Estonia, Hungary, Slovenia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Finland, Denmark, Austria, France, Switzerland, Japan.
And that's just how far I had the urge to check. Now let's see what other lies/mistakes Kamratgi has in store for us, shall we?
This is underhand behaviour, reminscent of school boy humour. He himself decried it in a previous thread.
Nordblod
July 25th, 2004, 08:49 PM
Possibly so, but he has never, at least to my knowledge, "misquote[d] another poster's nick". And you can call me a hairsplitter to your little heart's content; the fact remains.
diabloblanco92
July 25th, 2004, 09:07 PM
Sure they don`t like dark skinned Aryans! I will say why.
The Germans have marrige about 50.000-100.000 Thai women and every Thai-German family get more then 2-3 children.
This is called RACEMIXING!
The south Europeans or how these Mongolian muds of Thais call them
can not marrige with south Europeans because we so called darkies shit on these Mongoloid Thais.
Do you real think it is a matter for me what Mongoloids think about me?
I will overrun them with my race, you can assimilate them because they think you are so superior. Only those poeple are superior who know that Aryans don`t need any words that they are superior because they are superiors! :D
Thats right,us "darkie" Aryans have no interest in Asian women. We are only interested in Aryan women, Nord or Med.
diablo
-Shapur-
July 25th, 2004, 09:14 PM
Sure they don`t like dark skinned Aryans! I will say why.
The Germans have marrige about 50.000-100.000 Thai women and every Thai-German family get more then 2-3 children.
This is called RACEMIXING!
The south Europeans or how these Mongolian muds of Thais call them
can not marrige with south Europeans because we so called darkies shit on these Mongoloid Thais.
Do you real think it is a matter for me what Mongoloids think about me?
I will overrun them with my race, you can assimilate them because they think you are so superior. Only those poeple are superior who know that Aryans don`t need any words that they are superior because they are superiors! :D
FAGGOT! :mad:
Thais are 100% Aryan!
Kamangir42
July 26th, 2004, 03:06 AM
Possibly so, but he has never, at least to my knowledge, "misquote[d] another poster's nick". And you can call me a hairsplitter to your little heart's content; the fact remains.
Yes, strictly Fredrik hasn't "misquote[d] another poster's nick" but he has manipulated other poster's nicks in a pathetic attempt at humour. He himself decried the altering of nicks for comedic effect in a previous thread. Thus, he is not only unfunny but a hypocrite also. Whether you are a hairsplitter or not, these facts remain.
Racial Inquisitor
July 26th, 2004, 03:36 AM
The Thai, it seems, admire Germanics. I had a Thai girl tell me they have a special word for light-skinned Europeans, a word of honor which I have forgotten. "The dark Europeans like Spanish we don't like" she said and wrinkled her nose.
You should have told her to get that lit joint out of her rectum, because if any Thai mud actually thinks they are somewhat "whiter" than Spaniards he/she is obviously higher than a kite or is suffering from a severe case of mental diarrhea. Gooks & Zipperheads "discriminating" against Spaniards? LOL! It seems the fairy tales never end around here.
Nordblod
July 26th, 2004, 10:13 AM
Yes, strictly Fredrik hasn't "misquote[d] another poster's nick" but he has manipulated other poster's nicks in a pathetic attempt at humour. He himself decried the altering of nicks for comedic effect in a previous thread. Thus, he is not only unfunny but a hypocrite also. Whether you are a hairsplitter or not, these facts remain.
Well, if we were to view the matter from a hairsplitting perspective, it could very well be argued that those aren't so much facts as they are opinions.
Nordblod
July 26th, 2004, 10:32 AM
I am, however, perfectly willing to agree to the fact that it is a fact that those opinions are in fact opinions (wholly disregarding the fact that you may not have been entirely truthful regarding the opinions in question; or that you may have had time to reevaluate your previous standpoint; or that you may in fact be a crazy person, given to unpredictable flights of fancy: acting and spouting on the slightest of whims, going through personalities like underwear).
I'm not sure what I was trying to say here, but I am confident that it was terribly germane.
Herman van Houten
July 26th, 2004, 12:55 PM
http://www.ferris.edu/htmls/news/jimcrow/mulatto/movie1.jpg
"White" is not the same as white-skinned. "Black" is not the same as black-skinned.
A White human does not only have a white skin, the rest of his body is also racially White. I prefer to use the term Aryan, to stop jews and mulatto niggers from claiming they are White.
Using the term Aryan pissed off the kike far more than the term White, reason enough to use the term Aryan. I only use White if it has a tactical advantage, for instance to unenlightened Whites.
RetaliationBaby
July 26th, 2004, 01:20 PM
http://www.ananova.com/images/web/57136.jpg
The beady black eyes and the nigger lips say it all.
And can somebody say "collagen"?
RetaliationBaby
July 26th, 2004, 01:30 PM
I have it sitting on my computer (like tons of other things), but I haven't watched it. If it's that good, I'll definately have to look at it sometime soon.
Yeah, genes can be funny things. My dad has blue eyes, my mom has dark brown ones, and I got hit with a weird green. Unfortunately, it only looks green if you actually look at it closely.
http://server6.uploadit.org/files/AnimaEternae-eye.jpg
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HAHA! I have sort of the same weird greenish/orangish eyes... One of them is my avatar and I have attatched another one.
Nordblod
July 26th, 2004, 03:48 PM
What delicate features. You can't be a guy (at least not one older than 14).
RetaliationBaby
July 26th, 2004, 04:47 PM
What delicate features. You can't be a guy (at least not one older than 14).
Haha, I'm no guy! Thanks though.
Granadino
July 26th, 2004, 08:06 PM
And can somebody say "collagen"?
Where? The lips? No dear, that's the result of having nigger blood in you, shes a mulatta.
Nordblod
July 26th, 2004, 08:15 PM
Haha, I'm no guy! Thanks though.
I was actually hoping that you were a guy; so what evidently passed for a compliment, was in reality intended as an insult, or - if one is inclined toward puns - a slight.
RetaliationBaby
July 26th, 2004, 09:26 PM
I was actually hoping that you were a guy; so what evidently passed for a compliment, was in reality intended as an insult, or - if one is inclined toward puns - a slight.
I thought my profile pic sort of made clear to which gender I belong.
:p
Nordblod
July 26th, 2004, 10:34 PM
That would only have been an issue if I had in fact ever viewed your profile.
Fredrik Haerne
July 27th, 2004, 06:56 AM
You know it's funny you said, on another thread, that it was a low form of behaviour to misquote another poster's nick. This is something you have done repeatedly to Shapur and even to me. I suppose you live up to your standards.
To you? Oh I don't think so, little lampshade freak. How sad it is that you must lie and lie to yourself all the time, lest reality come crashing down on you. What I said in the other thread, my poor snivelling retard, was that few misquote another's nick in the quote.
Did you miss that? Do I have to write it again? Yes? No? It's hard to tell how much a retard understands. Don't you think you qualify as a pathetic pussy for using another handle here and claiming, under it, that I have misquoted your handle? Have I misquoted "Kamangir"? Really? When? Where? Show us the thread, if you can -- go on, show your proof, retard. Oh, I forget, you're a liar. Ah, that explains it. *LOL*
John in Woodbridge
July 27th, 2004, 07:07 AM
http://www.ferris.edu/htmls/news/jimcrow/mulatto/movie1.jpg
"White" is not the same as white-skinned. "Black" is not the same as black-skinned.
A White human does not only have a white skin, the rest of his body is also racially White. I prefer to use the term Aryan, to stop jews and mulatto niggers from claiming they are White.
Using the term Aryan pissed off the kike far more than the term White, reason enough to use the term Aryan. I only use White if it has a tactical advantage, for instance to unenlightened Whites.
I have two clients who are Iranian. One is obviously a mud, but the other has fairly light skin but with Negroid characteristics. I'm seeing a fair amount of people like her, who have Aryan features but darker skin.
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/yasmeen20.jpg
Der Henker
July 27th, 2004, 10:39 AM
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/yasmeen20.jpg
Where's her bananas?
http://www.oook.cz/jn/bananas/chiquita.jpg
Kamangir42
July 28th, 2004, 05:52 PM
Well, if we were to view the matter from a hairsplitting perspective, it could very well be argued that those aren't so much facts as they are opinions.
I don't want to be a stickler for detail but you should note that I expressed two facts and one opinion. The opinion was that his attempts at humour were pathetic. The facts were that: a) he purposely manipulates other posters' nicks for comedic effect; and b) he decried this behaviour in a previous thread. So it would be accurate to say that the facts remain (two facts to be precise).
Now the question is: do you find this behaviour humourous or childish?
Kamangir42
July 28th, 2004, 06:05 PM
I am, however, perfectly willing to agree to the fact that it is a fact that those opinions are in fact opinions (wholly disregarding the fact that you may not have been entirely truthful regarding the opinions in question; or that you may have had time to reevaluate your previous standpoint; or that you may in fact be a crazy person, given to unpredictable flights of fancy: acting and spouting on the slightest of whims, going through personalities like underwear).
I'm not sure what I was trying to say here, but I am confident that it was terribly germane.
How can you be confident that your comments are germane when you are not sure what you were trying to say? Perhaps it would be better to say that you hope your post was relevant?
I don't want to split hairs but I do think you are guilty of a truism in your first sentence where you write: "those opinions are... opinions". Of course, I should also say that it is your opinion that they are opinions whereas they may well be facts that you refuse to acknowledge for as yet undetermined reasons. I should further clarify that it is my opinion that your opinion that my previous comments were in fact opinions rather than facts is mistaken.
I admire your use of semi-colons though. They are criminally underused in my humble opinion in forum discourse.
Kamangir42
July 28th, 2004, 06:25 PM
To you? Oh I don't think so, little lampshade freak. How sad it is that you must lie and lie to yourself all the time, lest reality come crashing down on you. What I said in the other thread, my poor snivelling retard, was that few misquote another's nick in the quote.
Did you miss that? Do I have to write it again? Yes? No? It's hard to tell how much a retard understands. Don't you think you qualify as a pathetic pussy for using another handle here and claiming, under it, that I have misquoted your handle? Have I misquoted "Kamangir"? Really? When? Where? Show us the thread, if you can -- go on, show your proof, retard. Oh, I forget, you're a liar. Ah, that explains it. *LOL*
Humble apologies. I would have replied earlier to your post but it was truly difficult to identify any grains of sense worthy of a response. In the end I decided to compose a response in the forlorn hope that my superior intelligence would somehow rub off on you. Moreover, if I were a retard I could not possibly reply to your posts.
Let me first say that I have come to expect coarse language reminiscent of an uneducated, unmannered lumpen from you. It only sparks feelings of pity in me, not anger. How difficult it must be to have to live your life I think to myself (very I invariably decide).
Whether you misquote a poster's nick in the quote or purposely alter a poster's nick when addressing them, the effect is the same. They are both underhand and pathetic attemtps at humour. It was this that you decried in one thread, only to attempt it in another. Only one of your favourite "Jewish Marxists" would quibble over the fine detail as you have done. Bill Clinton would be proud of your legalistic wrangling!
I cannot face reality? How droll! Most of "your people" would sooner spit in your face than cease "miscegenating" with the nearest "sub-human". Cheer up!
By the way, I note that you failed to respond to several of my challenges in my first post in this thread. I think we can safely award you the epithet of coward.
Nordblod
July 28th, 2004, 06:28 PM
I don't want to be a stickler for detail but you should note that I expressed two facts and one opinion. The opinion was that his attempts at humour were pathetic. The facts were that: a) he purposely manipulates other posters' nicks for comedic effect; and b) he decried this behaviour in a previous thread. So it would be accurate to say that the facts remain (two facts to be precise).
For reference:
Yes, strictly Fredrik hasn't "misquote[d] another poster's nick" but he has manipulated other poster's nicks* in a pathetic attempt at humour**. He himself decried the altering of nicks for comedic effect in a previous thread***. Thus, he is not only unfunny**** but a hypocrite also*****. Whether you are a hairsplitter or not, these facts remain.
*Fact
**Opinion
***Possibly a fact, but in the context of making him out to be a hypocrite, it really is more of an opinion, as your basic premise was that he had "misquote[d] other people's nicks".
****Opinion
*****Either/or - see above.
In any event, I have decided to call it a draw (no need to thank me).
Now the question is: do you find this behaviour humourous or childish?
Bit of both.
Nordblod
July 28th, 2004, 06:32 PM
A fellow lover of semi-colons, eh? The joy.
Kamangir42
July 28th, 2004, 06:41 PM
I have two clients who are Iranian. One is obviously a mud, but the other has fairly light skin but with Negroid characteristics. I'm seeing a fair amount of people like her, who have Aryan features but darker skin.
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/yasmeen20.jpg
"Persians" do not have Negroid characteristics. All of the genetic studies I have at hand confirm this. The simple fact is that Iranians from the south are, on average, darker than those from the north because of the climatic and environemental conditions.
"Persians" have not been "miscegenated", they were always like this.
http://www.gaugamela.com/darius11.jpg
Darius III, Shah of "Persia", 336-330BCE, from a Roman painting
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~ancientpersia/images/s_guards.jpg
"Persian" Immortals, Achaemenid Empire
As you can see, "Persians" were blond-haired blue-eyed pale-skinned "Aryans" in the glory days.
By the way, the model you posted is not Iranian. Her name is Yasmeen Ghauri and she is half-Pakistani, half-German. She is most probably quite tanned in that picture.
If you are looking for a "Persian" model, how about Nazanin Afshin-Jam. She came second in the recent Miss World contest as Miss Canada.
http://www.payvand.com/news/04/jan/nazanin-afshin-jam.jpg
http://www.payvand.com/news/03/dec/nazanin-china.jpg
http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/TV2/archive/00126/02_miss_world_03_126214a.jpg
What a "dirty mud" she is! :D
Nordblod
July 28th, 2004, 06:46 PM
Well, I certainly wouldn't regard her as proper breeding material.
Kamangir42
July 28th, 2004, 06:51 PM
The Thai, it seems, admire Germanics. I had a Thai girl tell me they have a special word for light-skinned Europeans, a word of honor which I have forgotten. "The dark Europeans like Spanish we don't like" she said and wrinkled her nose.
I wouldn't make too much of that if I were you. I should imagine they train the child prostitutes in Bangkok to compliment the clients. She probably tells her Spanish clients how much she prefers them to the pale, effeminate Swedes.
By the way, I think the special word translates as "cash-cow" in English, if that helps. ;)
Kamangir42
July 28th, 2004, 06:55 PM
Well, I certainly wouldn't regard her as proper breeding material.
That is your right, of course. But she isn't "miscegenated".
Nordblod
July 28th, 2004, 06:59 PM
Neither are Hottentots.
Kamangir42
July 28th, 2004, 07:01 PM
Neither are Hottentots.
What is a Hottentot? Do you have a photographic example?
Nordblod
July 28th, 2004, 07:02 PM
You don't want to know. Believe me.
Kamangir42
July 28th, 2004, 07:09 PM
These are some young "Persian" girls. Of course, black hair and brown eyes are more common.
http://img58.exs.cx/img58/648/1077.jpg
http://img58.exs.cx/img58/8305/1078.jpg
http://img58.exs.cx/img58/5827/1079.jpg
http://img58.exs.cx/img58/9053/1080.jpg
http://img58.exs.cx/img58/3566/1081.jpg
http://img58.exs.cx/img58/7904/1082.jpg
Intrepid
July 28th, 2004, 07:14 PM
Dearest Kamangir,
I've found your posts so fascinating, I thought I might chime in. I believe you stated you lived here in the States (if I'm wrong, please forgive my folly), & you certainly have some rather interesting views of the founders of your host country and their racial brethren on the other side of the lake.
Apparently, as evidenced by your past remarks, you rather enjoy maligning the proverbial hand that feeds you. You've even wished for our demise. How charming, indeed. I realize you can't be helped in your deluded views of the country of your origin. I know it was such a august place, filled with such superior racial stock, that, well, you left it. Why, pray tell, might that be? I know you'll come up with a plethora of theories to validate your childhood fantasies; however, I've but two straight-foward queries for you:
- Why, if the racial characteristics of the average Persian are so highly regarded - at least in your estimation - is the average IQ sitting firmly at 81?
- Lest I forget... Why does this glorious nation, who sits upon a veritable treasure-trove of natural resources, have a per capita income of 7K?
Kamangir42
July 28th, 2004, 08:59 PM
Dearest Kamangir,
I've found your posts so fascinating, I thought I might chime in. I believe you stated you lived here in the States (if I'm wrong, please forgive my folly), & you certainly have some rather interesting views of the founders of your host country and their racial brethren on the other side of the lake.
Apparently, as evidenced by your past remarks, you rather enjoy maligning the proverbial hand that feeds you. You've even wished for our demise. How charming, indeed. I realize you can't be helped in your deluded views of the country of your origin. I know it was such a august place, filled with such superior racial stock, that, well, you left it. Why, pray tell, might that be? I know you'll come up with a plethora of theories to validate your childhood fantasies; however, I've but two straight-foward queries for you:
- Why, if the racial characteristics of the average Persian are so highly regarded - at least in your estimation - is the average IQ sitting firmly at 81?
- Lest I forget... Why does this glorious nation, who sits upon a veritable treasure-trove of natural resources, have a per capita income of 7K?
Thankfully, I do not live in the United States. From my writing, you should be able to discern the county in which I do in fact reside. I left, or more accurately was taken by my parents from, Iran at the tender age of four. I'm not sure you are aware but, at the time, not only were a bunch of savage, thieving, peasant, Muslim fundamentalists (I'm not a Muslim) running the country, dear Mr Saddam was bombing Tehran quite merrily (and as we sat in our cellar we were never sure if the maniac would use his precious chemical weapons on us). The plan was always to return to Iran, as my parents had done previously after studying in Europe, when the problems had been solved. Unfortunately, this has not happened yet. Nevertheless, I make a contribution to my adopted state and hope to continue to do so. I feed myself through my own hard work thank you.
I think that Iranian exiles are much less numerous and troublesome than other foreign groups like the Turks and Arabs (or Mexicans if you are from the US). Indeed, "Persians" are the most educated and one of the richest ancestry groups in the US (based on the 2000 census). I am told that the 700,000 "Persians" hold $400bn in assets in California, an amount equalling that held by the 30,000,000 Hispanics in that state.
As for the IQ scores I would not put too much faith in those if I were you. Indeed, Iran recently came 9th in the International Mathematical Olympiad and 2nd in the International Physics Olympiad, beating out many countries with supposedly higher IQ scores.
The economic status of Iran has been thorougly ruined by a succession of weak rulers, the latest being the Muslim fundamentalists who dragged us through a devastating war. Even so, Iran's economy grew ~7% last year and is predicted to grow at ~6% this year. Thus, Iran is one of the fastest growing economies in the world at the moment (and certainly faster than our venal neighbours, the Arabs). You must of course remember that the Irish and the Greeks were poorer than we are now 30 years ago and they managed to prosper.
I may not be a "white" nationalist but that does not mean that I oppose you. You are welcome to your views. I merely commented that your views are not shared by the overwhelming majority of your brethren. Personally, I would think it a shame if all the races mixed into one indistinguishable goulash. Diversity is the spice of life as they say.
Anima Eternae
July 29th, 2004, 05:49 PM
HAHA! I have sort of the same weird greenish/orangish eyes... One of them is my avatar and I have attatched another one.
Cool.
But your eyes are still "whiter" than mine, because I think I have like 15% of an epicanthic fold.
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Herman van Houten
July 30th, 2004, 03:48 AM
http://www.h-ref.de/dk/vern/himm/himmler.jpg
Here is a good example of epicanthus combined with light eyes.
Fredrik Haerne
July 30th, 2004, 09:11 AM
*LOL* Funny how these "I'm on your side" Iranians and Romanics always turn to nigger-style attacks when pressured. Look at this:
I cannot face reality? How droll! Most of "your people" would sooner spit in your face than cease "miscegenating" with the nearest "sub-human". Cheer up!
*S* The usual darkling "White women likes to fuck wiz uz brothas, yo!" That's funny: they are all the same, even this "Kamangir".
Oh, and I didn't reply to all your ramblings? Awww, did that hurt? Poor boy! Are you crying now?
How difficult it must be to have to live your life I think to myself (very I invariably decide).
*L* Yeah shitskin, nice try. Here's another one: why are a coward like you living as a parasite in White countries when you should be in shitskin Iran? Your oh-so superior Iran, which has already invented the technique for crushing nuts with rocks. Bravo! Iranians are the worst drivers in the world, but hey, let's not let that bother us. And let's hide their murders and rapes in White countries, eh? After all, it's only inferior Whites that are hurt by that, right?
Whether you misquote a poster's nick in the quote or purposely alter a poster's nick when addressing them, the effect is the same.
Oops, I forget that a shitskin nobody can't understand any differences more subtle than black and white. I will have to be more careful with you in the future, little one.
Only one of your favourite "Jewish Marxists" would quibble over the fine detail as you have done.
Uhh? One of mine? So sorry shitskin, they aren't mine. Now, this sounds like the comment from an east-nigger who doesn't understand the Jewish Question, am I right? In that case, why are you here, Jew-lover? Because it's the only forum where a nutcase like you won't be censored? Oh, I get it. How clever of you. :D
Single White Mogul
July 30th, 2004, 02:12 PM
By the way, I think the special word translates as "cash-cow" in English, if that helps. ;)
You shouldn't assume that everyone else has your mercenary attitude.
Kamangir42
July 30th, 2004, 09:27 PM
You shouldn't assume that everyone else has your mercenary attitude.
Shouldn't that be "independent contractor" attitude? :D
Single White Mogul
July 30th, 2004, 10:03 PM
Shouldn't that be "independent contractor" attitude? :D
Perhaps, if you wish to be euphemistic.
Intrepid
July 31st, 2004, 08:18 PM
Originally Posted by Kamangir42
Thankfully, I do not live in the United States. From my writing, you should be able to discern the county in which I do in fact reside.
Yes, I'm glad your presence isn't here, either. Your writing, btw, gives no indication of where you live.
...The plan was always to return to Iran, as my parents had done previously after studying in Europe, when the problems had been solved. Unfortunately, this has not happened yet. Nevertheless, I make a contribution to my adopted state and hope to continue to do so. I feed myself through my own hard work thank you.
Well, I believe your journey back to your motherland should begin shortly. Who knows, you might even do both of us a favor when Israeli intel goes marching in with our poorly misguided GIs.
I think that Iranian exiles are much less numerous and troublesome than other foreign groups like the Turks and Arabs (or Mexicans if you are from the US). Indeed, "Persians" are the most educated and one of the richest ancestry groups in the US (based on the 2000 census). I am told that the 700,000 "Persians" hold $400bn in assets in California, an amount equalling that held by the 30,000,000 Hispanics in that state.
I will agree with you to a certain extent here. I've never considered the Iranians in S. Cal a financial burden. From my contacts with them, a large portion came into the area after the demise of the Shah. Shall we say, these "Westernized" travelers from your country had a few dollars stuffed away on the side. You know, Zurich is very accomadating to such things. Strange, however, in that you compare "your" people to the hordes advancing from the south. I understand they're very similar in IQ, yet I find the analogy illuminating.
As for the IQ scores I would not put too much faith in those if I were you. Indeed, Iran recently came 9th in the International Mathematical Olympiad and 2nd in the International Physics Olympiad, beating out many countries with supposedly higher IQ scores.
Well, quite easy for you to throw empirical evidence away, eh. Whoosh. Gone in a flash. Rather convenient. Simply selecting a few abberations in a math quiz, hardy equates to the any form of a rebuttal.
The economic status of Iran has been thorougly ruined by a succession of weak rulers, the latest being the Muslim fundamentalists who dragged us through a devastating war. Even so, Iran's economy grew ~7% last year and is predicted to grow at ~6% this year. Thus, Iran is one of the fastest growing economies in the world at the moment (and certainly faster than our venal neighbours, the Arabs).
6-7% of nothing still equates to nothing. If you somehow hit "Asian Tiger" status, then perhaps someone might actually notice.
I may not be a "white" nationalist but that does not mean that I oppose you. You are welcome to your views. I merely commented that your views are not shared by the overwhelming majority of your brethren. Personally, I would think it a shame if all the races mixed into one indistinguishable goulash. Diversity is the spice of life as they say.
Well, that's fine and dandy, as I wouldn't oppose you if you were living in your native country. Fact is, you're not, hence I do. I certainly don't wish for your homeland to be invaded as more "buffer" for Tel Aviv. It is, contrary opinions aside, very un-American. That is not our foriegn policy, as stated by our founders, should never be following the whims and prejudices of lands far from our shores. That being said, I think you "Trojan Horse" attitude was revealed for all to see when you stated:
I think Shapur was trying to say that, if current breeding trends continue, Germany will be significantly Mongoloid in a few generations. He thinks that is a bad thing whereas I could not care less. As you said you like the Thais, I imagine this will please you no end. Perhaps you could import a few to Sweden and get the ball rolling there as well, huh?
Now, scoot back home. The lovely huts beckon your return. He have enough enemies as it is. We certainly don't need to import more who wish to see our civilization crumble.
MOMUS
July 31st, 2004, 08:27 PM
You don't want to know. Believe me.The first thorough investigation of the external genitalia of female Khoisanids resulted indirectly from an expedition sent out by the French government in 1800, at the instigation of the Institut de France, to make scientific observations in Australia and Tasmania. Few such enterprises have met with so many misfortunes. Many sailors and scientists had already deserted the ships before they had left Mauritius: violent tempests caused changes of plan; at one stage illness reduced the effective crew of one of the ships to four men; the other was eventually seized by the British on its return journey, and taken to England. Only two of the zoologists who had set out, Péron and Lesueur, remained with the expedition throughout. On the way back to France their ship called at Cape Town, where they took the opportunity to study the anatomy of Bushwomen.
http://www.heretical.org/miscella/baker56.jpg A, a Bushwoman (the famous 'Hottentot Venus'); B, a Korana woman; C, the external genitalia of a Bushwoman, standing upright; D. the same, of a Bushwoman lying down with the labia minora separated and turned aside.
Single White Mogul
July 31st, 2004, 10:36 PM
Yes, I'm glad your presence isn't here, either. Your writing, btw, gives no indication of where you live.
She wrote something about her "venal Arab neighbours" earlier, so my guess is England.
Kamangir42
August 1st, 2004, 12:49 PM
Yes, I'm glad your presence isn't here, either. Your writing, btw, gives no indication of where you live.
It does. Pay more attention.
Well, I believe your journey back to your motherland should begin shortly. Who knows, you might even do both of us a favor when Israeli intel goes marching in with our poorly misguided GIs.
I will agree with you to a certain extent here. I've never considered the Iranians in S. Cal a financial burden. From my contacts with them, a large portion came into the area after the demise of the Shah. Shall we say, these "Westernized" travelers from your country had a few dollars stuffed away on the side. You know, Zurich is very accomadating to such things. Strange, however, in that you compare "your" people to the hordes advancing from the south. I understand they're very similar in IQ, yet I find the analogy illuminating.
Well, quite easy for you to throw empirical evidence away, eh. Whoosh. Gone in a flash. Rather convenient. Simply selecting a few abberations in a math quiz, hardy equates to the any form of a rebuttal.
Let me ask an illuminating question about Iranians in the West. When did Iranians start moving to the West in large numbers? Following the Islamic Revolution in 1979. So they didn't come because they wanted to be parasites in the West, rather it was the change in regime in their homeland that led to the migration. This is in sharp contrast to Mexicans, Arabs, Turks and most other migrants who came permanently with no regard to the political situation in their country (Turkey and Mexico have been getting richer, unlike Iran, over the period of migration) and who are burdens on their host state. Iranians should be the least of your concern. Oh well, your choice I suppose.
I think the IQ data is not only rubbish (how do you accurately measure intelligence and who puts any faith in IQ tests?), the conclusions Lynn and Vanhannen reach are also highly questionable. They try to make out that Ethiopians have a mean IQ of 63. Now I could believe that they have a somewhat lower IQ than the world average but 63? With that IQ most Ethopians would not be able to walk in a straight line let alone talk. Rubbish.
There are plently of well-argued critiques of Lynn and Vanhannen such as:
http://www.gnxp.com/MT2/archives/001463.html
http://www.dienekes.com/blog/archives/000440.html
(note that Buj's data is radically different to Lynn and Vanhannen's further questioning the usefulness of the data)
Iran regularly places above most "white" countries in maths and physics competitions (these demonstrate mathematics and verbal reasoning skills which are two of the three key components of most IQ tests). Take a look atthis (http://www.gnxp.com/MT2/archives/000650.html) which discusses Iran's impressive performance. If you look at the US team, it includes many Jews and Asians - the Iranian team doesn't have any.
As for Iranian inventions, discoveries and other firsts, these include the building of the first Suez Canal, imperial organisation, windmills, trousers/pants, algorithms, algebra, the discoveries of alcohol, sulphuric acid, meningitis, asthma, smallpox and a whole host of other diseases, fuzzy logic and the gas laser. The Iranian calendar is significantly more accurate than the Gregorian. An Iranian physicist (Afshar) has recently made a ground-breaking contribution to quantum mechanics. There are many others. I'm sorry but a lot of Nordic countries can't even begin to compare (and many of Europe and the US's geniuses have been Jews).
And Iranians are supposed to be less intellgent than Iraqis or Turks let alone Europeans? Give me a break. In my opinion, there is very small variation in intelligence between all Caucasoids and Mongoloids (5%), Negroids are somewhat less intelligent and Australoids more so still (this is based on a comparison of brain size).
6-7% of nothing still equates to nothing. If you somehow hit "Asian Tiger" status, then perhaps someone might actually notice.
Actually, people are noticing. Many European companies (Mercedes, Renault, Nokia) are investing. In fact, Iranian FDI per capita is higher than China's. There is quite a long way to go but the Iranian economy is becoming a force to be reckoned with. We're doing quite a bit better than many of the "Asian Tiger" economies. You're believing the propaganda that Israel and the US are churning out.
Well, that's fine and dandy, as I wouldn't oppose you if you were living in your native country. Fact is, you're not, hence I do. I certainly don't wish for your homeland to be invaded as more "buffer" for Tel Aviv. It is, contrary opinions aside, very un-American. That is not our foriegn policy, as stated by our founders, should never be following the whims and prejudices of lands far from our shores. That being said, I think you "Trojan Horse" attitude was revealed for all to see when you stated:
Now, scoot back home. The lovely huts beckon your return. He have enough enemies as it is. We certainly don't need to import more who wish to see our civilization crumble.
That was tongue and cheek. It was in response to Fredrik's pathetic attempt to piss off Shapur by trying to argue that he preferred Thais to Iranians. So I simply replied that if you like them so much, why don't you invite them If you read some of his comments, Fredrik comes out looking like the Trojan Horse not me. Shapur said that Germans marrying Thais at the current rate will make Germany significantly Mongoloid in a few decades. Instead of being perturbed at a trend that should be disturbing to any WN, Fredrik preferred to attack Shapur. Who is the infiltrator? I, who openly admits I'm Iranian, or Fredrik who paints himself as the WN?
Anima Eternae
August 1st, 2004, 12:54 PM
I think the IQ data is not only rubbish (how do you accurately measure intelligence and who puts any faith in IQ tests?), the conclusions Lynn and Vanhannen reach are also highly questionable. They try to make out that Ethiopians have a mean IQ of 63. Now I could believe that they have a somewhat lower IQ than the world average but 63? With that IQ most Ethopians would not be able to walk in a straight line let alone talk.
The IQ tests are not "rubbish". Sorry if the truth is unpleasant. Cultural bias, my ass. The tests can be taken by illiterates and do not involve higher concepts.
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Kamangir42
August 1st, 2004, 12:54 PM
She wrote something about her "venal Arab neighbours" earlier, so my guess is England.
You got it. Well done.
It's not the millions of Pakistanis, Indians and Negroids that pose a threat to the English. No, it's us few thousand Iranians. Don't believe me? Just ask Fredrik. :D
Nordblod
August 1st, 2004, 01:02 PM
To us you are all equally undesireable.
Kamangir42
August 1st, 2004, 01:14 PM
The IQ tests are not "rubbish". Sorry if the truth is unpleasant. Cultural bias, my ass. The tests can be taken by illiterates and do not involve higher concepts.
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IQ tests are rubbish in my opinion. Nothing to do with cultural bias. I'd like to see you prove otherwise.
I would argue that low income per capita causes low IQ. That's why we've seen IQ increase in many populations. I'm quite familiar with econometrics and know how easy it is to manipulate data to fit a theory.
There is no way that Ethiopians have an average IQ of 63. They couldn't walk in a straight line let alone talk (which would somewhat hinder their ability to even take a test).
Pay particular attention to the bolded section in the following article. The Stanford-Binet test, which I think is widely used in illiterate populations, is total bullshit.
Europeans must have experienced a quantum leap in their IQsJan 4, 2004, 09:11
Yong Tiam Kui
Giving a racist slant to IQ tests
PEOPLE across the planet are more or less blessed with the same degree of intelligence, right? Not so, says Richard Lynn, Professor Emeritus of Psychology at the University of Ulster, Britain, and Tatu Vanhanen, Professor Emeritus of Political Science at the University of Helsinki, Finland.
In a paper entited Intelligence and the Wealth and Poverty of Nations, Lynn and Vanhanen are making the racist claim that the populations of Northeast Asian countries have the highest intelligence scores: Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, China, Hong Kong and Singapore average 105.
The populations of Europe, the United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand are next with intelligence quotients (IQs) averaging 100.
South Asia, North Africa and most Latin American countries are further down the totem pole with IQs averaging around 85.
And, Sub-Saharan Africa and the Caribbean countries are at the very bottom with IQs of 70 or so. Malaysia's national IQ score came to 92.
Lynn and Vanhanen claim that this variability in national IQ is the main determinant for differences in national per capita income and economic growth; followed by factors such as whether individual countries operate market or socialist economies, possess valuable natural resources such as oil and whether they are hobbled by difficulties such as US trade sanctions.
Furthermore, they make the amazing claim that national IQ accounts for as much as 57 per cent of the variance of real GDP per capita in 1998 and 50 per cent of the variance of GNP per capita in 1998.
As if that was not mystifying enough, they add that national IQ also accounts for 37 per cent of the variance in economic growth of per capita GDP 1950-90 and 41 per cent of the variance in economic growth of per capita GNP 1976-98.
It should be noted that Mesopotamia and Egypt gave birth to the earliest civilisations and for thousands of years China, India and the Middle East were great centres of civilisation while Europe was a impoverished backwater.
So, how are the incredibly low IQ scores for modern Indians and Middle Easterners and high scores for Europeans to be explained? "Sometime in the last few centuries, the Europeans must have experienced a quantum leap in their IQs because the Chinese, Indians and Muslims were way ahead before that!" says Universiti Malaya economist Prof Jomo K. Sundram, rather sarcastically.
And, how are we to explain the incredibly low national IQ scores of Latin American countries whose populations are predominantly of European extraction? Were the Europeans who went to Latin America dumber than those who went to the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, and those who stayed behind in Europe? "There is no ethnic or racial component to intelligence. One race is not going to have higher IQ than another race.
"There is no evidence of difference in brain size, shape, organisation or structure among people of different races.
"Analyses of genetic differences show that ethnic groups do not differ substantially in the type of genes found, but that great differences among individuals exist within each ethnic group.
"Skin colour is skin deep and means little or nothing more. People get their genes from their families, not from racial groups," says Dr Peter Shephard, chief executive officer of Herrmann BrainMatters (M) Sdn Bhd, a company which specialises in left and right brain profiling.
Dr Shephard says that IQ tests primarily measure verbal/linguistic and logic/maths/technical ability and some visual/spatial ability.
However, Prof Howard Gardner of the Harvard School of Education has documented 11 or 12 forms of intelligence: verbal/linguistic, logic/maths/ technical, musical/rhythmic/ auditory, visual/spatial, motor/body-kines-thetic, inter-personal, intra-personal, naturalist, spiritual/existential, moral/ethical and other forms of sensory intelligence such as taste, smell and touch.
And, there are others who hold that there may be as many as 30 to 40 kinds of intelligence and that every human being has at least three or four of these.
Dr Shephard notes that the validity of IQ test results depends to a large degree on how they are designed.
Obviously, individuals who take an IQ test that requires a certain degree of literacy in a foreign language and familiarity with alien cultural norms would be at a disadvantage if they lacked these attributes.
In the 1920s, for instance, IQ tests carried out on recent US immigrants showed that 87 per cent of Russians, 83 per cent of Jews, 80 per cent of Hungarians and 79 per cent of Italians were "feeble-minded".
Lynn and Vanhanen say their national IQ scores are valid because they were calculated on the basis of published data for 60 countries compiled by earlier researchers using non-verbal tests, but this claim is open to question.
In his article The IQ Racket, British Open University biology professor Steven Rose argues that IQ tests are essentially culture-bound social constructs which mainly test for performance in industrial capitalist societies.
He points out that some IQ tests are termed "culture-free" because they rely on non-verbal skills and subjects that are not easily related to general knowledge.
So, in theory at least, these tests should be equally difficult for anyone, no matter what their background but Rose found that they were anything but "culture-free".
For instance, the standard Stanford-Binet test uses pictures of white faces, some obviously middle-class, others more battered by life, and asks "which is prettier?" The questions, he adds, include: "What is the thing for you to do when you have broken something that belongs to someone else?" According to the test manual, correct answers include: "Restitution or apology or both; mere confession is not satisfactory." To the question "What is the thing to do if another boy (girl, person) hits you without meaning to?", the only satisfactory responses are those which suggest "excusing" or "overlooking the act". The response "I would hit them back" would be incorrect.
Equally problematic is the fact that Lynn and Vanhanen chose to adopt highly questionable, if not laughable, methods to calculate the national IQs of 104 other countries for which no data was available.
They started by making the untenable assumption that the national IQ of any one country would be "closely similar" to those of its neighbours.
So, when there are two or more "appropriate" neighbouring countries, the IQs of these are averaged to obtain an estimated IQ for the country whose IQ is unknown.
For example, they averaged the national IQs of India (81) and Iran (84) to give Afghanistan an IQ of 83! In the case of countries which are racially mixed and for which there is no similar neighbouring country, they assigned IQs to the racial groups on the basis of the known IQs of these groups in neighbouring countries.
For instance, they arrived at a national IQ score of 72 for South Africa by weighting the IQs for the four racial groups (whites: 94; blacks: 66; coloureds: 82; Indians: 83) according to the percentages of these populations (whites: 14 per cent; blacks: 75 per cent; coloureds nine per cent; Indians: two per cent).
While acknowledging the fact that these figures are estimates and as such "certainly contain errors", they nonetheless assume that "the margin of error is relatively small in nearly all cases".
Universiti Sains Malaysia Social Science Department Associate Prof Chan Chee Khoon and Dr Chee Heng Leng, who co-edited Designer Genes — IQ, Ideology and Biology, a collection of highly influential scientific articles that were published in 1984 specifically to debunk IQ mumbo-jumbo prevalent in Malaysia and Singapore at the time, say the IQ theory is only a specific example of the wider phenomenon of scientific racism.
"The issue has been exhaustively debated. Lynn et al are digging up an old corpse that's long been dead and buried, and I don't know if we should be devoting so much time to such shoddy research," they say.
Scientific racism refers to attempts to use scientific language and techniques to support claims of natural superiority of one identifiable human population or group to another.
Its use culminated in Nazi pseudoscience in the 1930s which provided the ideological justification for the persecution and mass genocide of Jews and other peoples not of supposed Aryan stock.
Kamangir42
August 1st, 2004, 01:15 PM
Scientific racism lay dormant for more than 20 years because of the role it played during the Second World War. But, it re-emerged in the West in 1969 with the publication of an article entitled How much can we boost IQ by Arthur Jensen, an American educational psychologist.
In the article, Jensen asserts that it was the innate genetic inferiority of blacks, rather than inequitable social and educational systems, that caused compensatory programmes in the US to fail.
His article caused an immediate furore but he was supported by scientists like William Shockley (Nobel laureate in physics for his work on the transistor) who recommended cash inducements for the sterilisation of blacks and members of the working class to prevent the decline of US national intelligence.
Lynn and Vanhanen, who are the latest proponents of these racist theories, argue that nations whose populations have high IQs will tend to have intelligent and efficient political leaders, and public and private personnel that would contribute to the strength of the economy at all levels, hence making it possible to produce highly sought-after goods and services at competitive prices.
Lynn and Vanhanen say their argument is supported by research in the US, UK and Spain which show that individuals and groups with higher IQ scores tend to have higher incomes.
However, it has also become increasingly popular in recent times to relate success to "emotional intelligence" (EQ). Those who score highest in terms of EQ tend to display greater interpersonal ability and selfconfidence, and are said to rise more quickly to the top of organisations.
Massachusetts Institute of Technology linguistics professor Noam Chomsky suggests that unsavoury characteristics such as ruthlessness, cunning, avarice, subservience to authority, sycophancy and lack of principles might outweigh IQ as factors in the attainment of wealth and power.
Critics say Lynn and Vanhanen have got their argument backwards as it makes far more sense to argue that the populations of rich countries do better on IQ tests because they have access to better nutrition and education.
Dr Shephard says studies show that good nutrition and exposure to a stimulating environment throughout childhood can increase IQ scores by a few points.
"If you come from a poor African country, you could be nutritionally deprived and you might not have received the right environmental stimulation.
"Whole generations could be deprived of their full potential practically from the moment of conception," adds Dr Shephard.
Chan says: "I think it's more likely that they have the causality reversed. A country with a high GDP would be able to provide a material and cultural environment that on average allows for better performance on IQ tests.
"Indeed, the more interesting question, with causality reversed, is why countries like Cuba and the exsocialist countries have high levels of human resource development (including widespread literacy and technical competence), despite relatively low levels of GDP."
Source: http://physicsforums.com/archive/t-14568
Anima Eternae
August 1st, 2004, 01:28 PM
Cut and paste? "Racist"?
Yawn..
Cloud S
August 1st, 2004, 01:57 PM
IQ tests are rubbish in my opinion. Nothing to do with cultural bias. I'd like to see you prove otherwise.
Rubbish? IQ tests prove a lot. Don't rule them out because they don't favor your beloved Iranian population. IQ tests have proven that they are directly related to potential of intelligence and social behaviors.
If IQ tests are rubbish then why is Africa a complete continent overrun with poverty and famine as their low IQ would suggest, while the Japan has the highest IQ in the world and they are a thriving country with the lowest crime rates?
Aint it funny how these people are quick to pull out the colorful maps with all sorts of percentages and farfetched mumbo jumbo to prove how they are White, but somehow IQ test are just "rubbish".
Single White Mogul
August 1st, 2004, 01:58 PM
I would argue that low income per capita causes low IQ... There is no way that Ethiopians have an average IQ of 63.
How does China always score so well, then?
I don't think the figure they use for Ethiopia is particularly outlandish. Given that Africans were isolated in a relatively fierce environment for so long, the idea that they have developed the skills essential to survival and basic social interaction without gaining the all of abstract knowledge common to Europeans and Asians isn't implausible. Rushton wrote something about this a while ago.
Cloud S
August 1st, 2004, 02:05 PM
There is no way that Ethiopians have an average IQ of 63. They couldn't walk in a straight line let alone talk (which would somewhat hinder their ability to even take a test).
Actually it is true, and that's not even the lowest. The natives of New guinea have an average IQ of 59!
This guy has already laid his cards on the table, now he's stating that Africans are as dumb as rocks because of socio-economic situations. Oh, let me guess, those evil Whiteys stole all their minerals and this hindered their frontal lobe from growing and evolving beyond primitive hunter gatherers, Yes?
Too bad that IQ tests are very real and are not "rubbish" as you would like them to be, the source of your shame seems to be that as far as intelligence goes, Iranians are at the same level as the average American negroes. Maybe this is why they're so eager to breed with Whites so they can raise their IQ's. Who knows. Whatever the case it illustrates the danger in breeding with these people!
Anima Eternae
August 1st, 2004, 02:10 PM
It is true that malnutrition can have adverse effects on IQ, to point of about 8-10 points.
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Cloud S
August 1st, 2004, 02:12 PM
that is nonsense! So you're telling me that if American negroes were fed a healthy diet of vegetables and lean meats instead of fried chicken and orange soda they would magically raise their IQ by 10 points and wouldn't commit so many crimes and fail miserably at school? Sounds like typical Jewspeak to me.
Single White Mogul
August 1st, 2004, 02:13 PM
Cut and paste? "Racist"?
Yawn..
To summarize the article:
The IQ tests used eighty years ago were wicked and racist. Therefore, the IQ tests today must be equally wicked and racist. The culturally reduced tests like the one used by Lynn and Vanhanen are similarly wicked and racist even though they have very little in common with IQ tests. And because communist countries with relatively high average IQs do worse than capitalist countries with average IQs, the concept of IQ must be meaningless.
You're right, I think we've heard it all before.
Cloud S
August 1st, 2004, 02:28 PM
IQ tests, racist?
Tell that to these sorry bastards...
http://www.delacagiga.com/David/Images/Kenya-Tanzania/Bushmen.jpg
http://www.delacagiga.com/David/Images/Kenya-Tanzania/bushmen4.jpg
http://www.delacagiga.com/David/Images/Kenya-Tanzania/bushmen2.jpg
diabloblanco92
August 1st, 2004, 02:45 PM
Scientific racism lay dormant for more than 20 years because of the role it played during the Second World War. But, it re-emerged in the West in 1969 with the publication of an article entitled How much can we boost IQ by Arthur Jensen, an American educational psychologist.
In the article, Jensen asserts that it was the innate genetic inferiority of blacks, rather than inequitable social and educational systems, that caused compensatory programmes in the US to fail.
His article caused an immediate furore but he was supported by scientists like William Shockley (Nobel laureate in physics for his work on the transistor) who recommended cash inducements for the sterilisation of blacks and members of the working class to prevent the decline of US national intelligence.
Lynn and Vanhanen, who are the latest proponents of these racist theories, argue that nations whose populations have high IQs will tend to have intelligent and efficient political leaders, and public and private personnel that would contribute to the strength of the economy at all levels, hence making it possible to produce highly sought-after goods and services at competitive prices.
Lynn and Vanhanen say their argument is supported by research in the US, UK and Spain which show that individuals and groups with higher IQ scores tend to have higher incomes.
However, it has also become increasingly popular in recent times to relate success to "emotional intelligence" (EQ). Those who score highest in terms of EQ tend to display greater interpersonal ability and selfconfidence, and are said to rise more quickly to the top of organisations.
Massachusetts Institute of Technology linguistics professor Noam Chomsky suggests that unsavoury characteristics such as ruthlessness, cunning, avarice, subservience to authority, sycophancy and lack of principles might outweigh IQ as factors in the attainment of wealth and power.
Critics say Lynn and Vanhanen have got their argument backwards as it makes far more sense to argue that the populations of rich countries do better on IQ tests because they have access to better nutrition and education.
Dr Shephard says studies show that good nutrition and exposure to a stimulating environment throughout childhood can increase IQ scores by a few points.
"If you come from a poor African country, you could be nutritionally deprived and you might not have received the right environmental stimulation.
"Whole generations could be deprived of their full potential practically from the moment of conception," adds Dr Shephard.
Chan says: "I think it's more likely that they have the causality reversed. A country with a high GDP would be able to provide a material and cultural environment that on average allows for better performance on IQ tests.
"Indeed, the more interesting question, with causality reversed, is why countries like Cuba and the exsocialist countries have high levels of human resource development (including widespread literacy and technical competence), despite relatively low levels of GDP."
Source: http://physicsforums.com/archive/t-14568
Don't even go there! I know enough Cuban-Americans to realize that Cuba is a crumbling, racially decaying hell that people of all races will climb into an inner tube and try to paddle 90 miles through shark-infested waters in the middle of hurricane season to escape. They are living on artions of a few pounds or rice and beans and 1/4 pound of beef per month.
Cuba 1959-73% White with the second highest per capita income in L:atin America, a White tropical paradise
Cuba- 2004 37% White, a broke , starving, racially and economically decaying HELL
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Cloud S
August 1st, 2004, 02:50 PM
Don't even go there! I know enough Cuban-Americans to realize that Cuba is a crumbling, racially decaying hell that people of all races will climb into an inner tube and try to paddle 90 miles through shark-infested waters in the middle of hurricane season to escape. They are living on artions of a few pounds or rice and beans and 1/4 pound of beef per month.
Cuba 1959-73% White with the second highest per capita income in L:atin America, a White tropical paradise
Cuba- 2004 37% White, a broke , starving, racially and economically decaying HELL
diablo
37% White? I'd say it's a bit overstated, in any case White Cubans have assimilated quite well and have rose to very prominent positions, especially those in Florida. Argentina is slowly headed down this same path, until very recently it was over 90% White, now with the economic crisis and slow racial decay it is more like 70-80% White.
diabloblanco92
August 1st, 2004, 02:55 PM
Sure they don`t like dark skinned Aryans! I will say why.
The Germans have marrige about 50.000-100.000 Thai women and every Thai-German family get more then 2-3 children.
This is called RACEMIXING!
The south Europeans or how these Mongolian muds of Thais call them
can not marrige with south Europeans because we so called darkies shit on these Mongoloid Thais.
Do you real think it is a matter for me what Mongoloids think about me?
I will overrun them with my race, you can assimilate them because they think you are so superior. Only those poeple are superior who know that Aryans don`t need any words that they are superior because they are superiors! :D
Thats so true, they dont like us Med-Aryans, I consider that a badge of hionor. But Nordic and Med women LOVE us, and thats all that matters, our own blood
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Cloud S
August 1st, 2004, 03:00 PM
Since when are Iranians and Mediterraneans one in the same? That seems to be what these Iranians latch on to when they want to convince everyone that they are "White Aryan Meds".
P.S. Your buddy Shapur should work on his grammar, his grasp of the English language is at the same level of a New Guinean tribesman.
Cloud S
August 1st, 2004, 03:07 PM
Thats so true, they dont like us Med-Aryans, I consider that a badge of hionor. But Nordic and Med women LOVE us, and thats all that matters, our own blood
diablo
Keep grafting these black eyed darkies in with Southern Europeans, and I'm sure that'll lead other suspicious Europeans to accept Mediterraneans with open arms. As if Italy and Greece didn't have to face enough issues concerning racial purity...
diabloblanco92
August 1st, 2004, 03:11 PM
It does. Pay more attention.
Let me ask an illuminating question about Iranians in the West. When did Iranians start moving to the West in large numbers? Following the Islamic Revolution in 1979. So they didn't come because they wanted to be parasites in the West, rather it was the change in regime in their homeland that led to the migration. This is in sharp contrast to Mexicans, Arabs, Turks and most other migrants who came permanently with no regard to the political situation in their country (Turkey and Mexico have been getting richer, unlike Iran, over the period of migration) and who are burdens on their host state. Iranians should be the least of your concern. Oh well, your choice I suppose.
I think the IQ data is not only rubbish (how do you accurately measure intelligence and who puts any faith in IQ tests?), the conclusions Lynn and Vanhannen reach are also highly questionable. They try to make out that Ethiopians have a mean IQ of 63. Now I could believe that they have a somewhat lower IQ than the world average but 63? With that IQ most Ethopians would not be able to walk in a straight line let alone talk. Rubbish.
There are plently of well-argued critiques of Lynn and Vanhannen such as:
http://www.gnxp.com/MT2/archives/001463.html
http://www.dienekes.com/blog/archives/000440.html
(note that Buj's data is radically different to Lynn and Vanhannen's further questioning the usefulness of the data)
Iran regularly places above most "white" countries in maths and physics competitions (these demonstrate mathematics and verbal reasoning skills which are two of the three key components of most IQ tests). Take a look atthis (http://www.gnxp.com/MT2/archives/000650.html) which discusses Iran's impressive performance. If you look at the US team, it includes many Jews and Asians - the Iranian team doesn't have any.
As for Iranian inventions, discoveries and other firsts, these include the building of the first Suez Canal, imperial organisation, windmills, trousers/pants, algorithms, algebra, the discoveries of alcohol, sulphuric acid, meningitis, asthma, smallpox and a whole host of other diseases, fuzzy logic and the gas laser. The Iranian calendar is significantly more accurate than the Gregorian. An Iranian physicist (Afshar) has recently made a ground-breaking contribution to quantum mechanics. There are many others. I'm sorry but a lot of Nordic countries can't even begin to compare (and many of Europe and the US's geniuses have been Jews).
And Iranians are supposed to be less intellgent than Iraqis or Turks let alone Europeans? Give me a break. In my opinion, there is very small variation in intelligence between all Caucasoids and Mongoloids (5%), Negroids are somewhat less intelligent and Australoids more so still (this is based on a comparison of brain size).
Actually, people are noticing. Many European companies (Mercedes, Renault, Nokia) are investing. In fact, Iranian FDI per capita is higher than China's. There is quite a long way to go but the Iranian economy is becoming a force to be reckoned with. We're doing quite a bit better than many of the "Asian Tiger" economies. You're believing the propaganda that Israel and the US are churning out.
That was tongue and cheek. It was in response to Fredrik's pathetic attempt to piss off Shapur by trying to argue that he preferred Thais to Iranians. So I simply replied that if you like them so much, why don't you invite them If you read some of his comments, Fredrik comes out looking like the Trojan Horse not me. Shapur said that Germans marrying Thais at the current rate will make Germany significantly Mongoloid in a few decades. Instead of being perturbed at a trend that should be disturbing to any WN, Fredrik preferred to attack Shapur. Who is the infiltrator? I, who openly admits I'm Iranian, or Fredrik who paints himself as the WN?
IQ tests are not everything. However, some groups including Iranians will substantially improve their performance on them with exposure to education, whereas Congoids will show relatively little improvement.
That aside, I think its pretty revealing that Fredrick has confessed he perfers Thai women to Irtanian ones, no matter how Aryan their appearance.
The mere idea that I could ever prefer any East Asian to my beautiful 100% Aryan Iranian /Irish WN gf makes me want to vomit, and I have no hostility towards East Asians as long as they stay in Asia.
Its been my experience that many of these :Nordish" (Not to be confused with Nordic) WNs have a claset East Asian fetish. Hry if a chick gets you hard, you can't control that, But to say you prefer an East Asian to a White?
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diabloblanco92
August 1st, 2004, 03:15 PM
Keep grafting these black eyed darkies in with Southern Europeans, and I'm sure that'll lead other suspicious Europeans to accept Mediterraneans with open arms. As if Italy and Greece didn't have to face enough issues concerning racial purity...
They don't, unless you are referring to the recent influxes of mud immigrants.
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diabloblanco92
August 1st, 2004, 03:17 PM
Keep grafting these black eyed darkies in with Southern Europeans, and I'm sure that'll lead other suspicious Europeans to accept Mediterraneans with open arms. As if Italy and Greece didn't have to face enough issues concerning racial purity...
Your comment makes no sense anyhow, i do not have black eyes, mine are dark brown. My "Camel Jockey" gf has light brown ones. If anything , by your standards, I am polluting her rather than other way around. LOL
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Mike Jahn
August 1st, 2004, 05:00 PM
Miss Costa Rica looks white to me, or not enough admixture to quibble about
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/costa.jpg
Miss Dominican Republic is not white, but certainly not even close to a boolie.
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/dominican.jpg
I think it's silly to make an issue of these two:
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/nicaragua.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/peru.jpg
Whether Sivan Klein (Miss Israel) is white or not, I wouldn't kick her out of bed.
http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/sivan1.jpg
You wouldn't kick your Grandma out of bed. :p
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