Spain inquiry

[Antiochus Epiphanes]

Algun persona tiene noticias de la movomiento nacionalista en Espana? Que pasa con "CEDADE?" Que pasa con los phalangistas?

En Anglais por favor! Lo siento pora me Espanol!

[Der Führer]

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En Anglais por favor! Lo siento pora me Espanol![/QUOTE]


I've got 1 for you:
Translate "Zapayo"

[Cor Hispànic]

I've got 1 for you:
Translate "Zapayo"

Uh? you mean "Cipayo"?

[Cor Hispànic]

It is basically a mess. CEDADE is no longer in existance. Some former members of CEDADE formed the Centro de Estudios Indoeuropeos:
http://www.ceindoeuropeos.com/
A few others can be seen in Democracia Nacional. And I've been told that a bunch can even be seen in the inner circles of the ruling Conservative Partido Popular. But I can't confirm this last point.

Some other groups are:

Democracia Nacional - http://www.democracianacional.org/
Nationalists, anti-immigration, leaning towards the right.

Movimiento Social Republicano - http://www.red-vertice.com/msr/
Nationalists but leaning towards the left (heavily influenced by Ramiro Ledema's National-Syndicalism?).

Plataforma per Catalunya - http://www.pxcatalunya.com/
It's an anti-immigration party that only operates in Catalonia. It got a 2 or 3 representatives in a few townships.

Moviment Patriòtic Català -
http://www.lesclat.com/
Not a political party, and linked somehow to Plataforma per Catalunya (at least they support them for the polls).


The Falange is more or less in the same fragmented mess they've always been, and stick in the past as usual:

FE de las JONS - http://www.falange.es/
("Francoist" Falange)

FE de las JONS - http://www.fedelasjons.com/
(right wing Falange)

Falange Española (independiente) - http://www.e-falange.com/
(erhh... centrist Falange?)

Falange Española (auténtica) - http://www.falange-autentica.org/
(left wing Falange)

All of them, together with other groups, united for the elections in the Frente Español:
http://www.frente-espanol.es/
with little to no success.


The definitions left/center/right wing are not very exacts, as it mostly depends on different concepts of Falangism. At least the FEa's web (auténtica) doesn't look as leftist as it did in the past (and in the past they would have never join the others for anything).

[Cor Hispànic]

Ah.. and for Portugal there is Partido Nacional Renovador - http://www.partidonacional.org/
which I believe is roughly in line with Spanish Democracia Nacional and French Front National.

I don't know if Ordem Lusa is still operating, the libreopinion network doesn't work well at times.
www.libreopinion.com/members/ordemlusa/
I think they are NR or NS, not sure.

[Antiochus Epiphanes]

It is basically a mess. CEDADE is no longer in existance. Some former members of CEDADE formed the Centro de Estudios Indoeuropeos:
http://www.ceindoeuropeos.com/
A few others can be seen in Democracia Nacional. And I've been told that a bunch can even be seen in the inner circles of the ruling Conservative Partido Popular. But I can't confirm this last point.

Some other groups are....

...The Falange is more or less in the same fragmented mess they've always been, and stick in the past as usual:

FE de las JONS - http://www.falange.es/
("Francoist" Falange)

FE de las JONS - http://www.fedelasjons.com/
(right wing Falange)

Falange Española (independiente) - http://www.e-falange.com/
(erhh... centrist Falange?)

Falange Española (auténtica) - http://www.falange-autentica.org/
(left wing Falange)

All of them, together with other groups, united for the elections in the Frente Español:
http://www.frente-espanol.es/
with little to no success.


The definitions left/center/right wing are not very exacts, as it mostly depends on different concepts of Falangism. At least the FEa's web (auténtica) doesn't look as leftist as it did in the past (and in the past they would have never join the others for anything).

Excellent summary. Muchas gracias.

Care to discuss Primo de Rivera and how his vision differed from what came about under the Caudillo?

[Cor Hispànic]

Excellent summary. Muchas gracias.

Care to discuss Primo de Rivera and how his vision differed from what came about under the Caudillo?

Sorry, I can't see why, I consider that both José Antonio (Primo de Rivera) and General Franco are a dead weight in the actual political arena.

Besides, none of them had any connection with racial issues. If you look for someone with a more racial oriented ideology, I suggest you get information on Ramiro Ledesma:

http://www.ramiroledesma.com/

He was the founder of JONS (National Syndicalism), which later allied with the more populist Falange of José Antonio in FE de las JONS. But at a later time Ramiro Ledesma left this coalition due to disagreements with José Antonio.

The site is all in Spanish, but there are two texts written in French and Italian.

The text in French is in pdf and deals with Ramiro Ledesma and the Jewish problem:
http://www.ramiroledesma.com/nrevolucion/sobre01.pdf

The text in Italian is in html, and it's an introduction written in the 30's of the journal "La Conquista del Estado", from which sprang the political movement JONS:
http://www.ramiroledesma.com/nrevolucion/sobre61.html

There was a National Syndicalist movement in Portugal too, lead by some Rolao Preto. I don't know much about it but, differently to Ramiro, Rolao came from a pro-monarchy group.

[Der Führer]

Sorry, .................differently to Ramiro, Rolao came from a pro-monarchy group.

How good is your Spanish?
Could you translate. zapayo?

[NORDIC TITAN]

I thought this was a forum for real white Aryans? Who the fuck cares about a bunch of greasy Spics and Nigger Portugese.

[Antiochus Epiphanes]

How good is your Spanish?
Could you translate. zapayo?

zapato means shoe. zapata is the last name of some Mex hero. zapatista is a mexican-indian commie rebel.

Cipayo is a name. Dont know what it means.

That's as best as I can do.

[Antiochus Epiphanes]

I thought this was a forum for real white Aryans? Who the fuck cares about a bunch of greasy Spics and Nigger Portugese.

I thought this was a forum for Aryans with half a brain and a high school education. Go get a GED kid an Aryan brain's a terrible thing to waste.

[Cor Hispànic]

I thought this was a forum for real white Aryans? Who the fuck cares about a bunch of greasy Spics and Nigger Portugese.

If a skimo like you can post, anyone can.

[Cor Hispànic]

Cipayo is a name. Dont know what it means.

Cipayos were the indigenous troops who served the Brits in India. I don't know what the English word was or if it derives from English.

It is not used nowadays, only among some basque left-radical groups to name the police forces.

Zapata is the name for the thing that holds the break pads in a car (the break shoe?).

[NORDIC TITAN]

Listen you fucking dago. All that greatness of spain was the result of my superior Nordic genes, you fucking insolent little mongrel. I did not give you permission to answer my fucking post, shitskin.

[Antiochus Epiphanes]

Listen you fucking dago. All that greatness of spain was the result of my superior Nordic genes, you fucking insolent little mongrel. I did not give you permission to answer my fucking post, shitskin.

Nutjob with serious delusions. Time to check your medication.

[Cor Hispànic]

Nutjob with serious delusions. Time to check your medication.

On the Books forum, in the march of the trolls thread, his words were so stupid that I got to believe he was a real nord. But he might be a troll, or a nord... does it really matter?

AE, you should review your opinion on kemp and mott. The only thing in it which is from a master is how he puts a lot of things together, with the help of some black arts like lying, twisting, manipulating, etc.. and succeedes to fool the uneducated, unintelligent type which needs to believe in such things.

I'm telling you because you are Southern European or partly SE. If you believe in defending white people from becoming a minority at home, look for a different kind of people. If you are a SE, better stay with your people.

You see the level at VNN... and the level at SF is not much better... only that they are restrained from showing how they really are by strict moderation, otherwise it wouldn't be too different to what it is here. This is, I'm afraid, the nordic world.

[Turk Hunter]

Uh? you mean "Cipayo"?
Der Führer is setting a trap. If you knew what that meant, then you are no Spaniard, but a Hispanic, instead. :cool:

[goidelicwarrior]

I thought this was a forum for real white Aryans? Who the fuck cares about a bunch of greasy Spics and Nigger Portugese. if anyone here are greasy...its the 300 pound american floating in his own racial cesspool.. culturless lemmings.. licking their jewish masters arse.... I think you know.. step into your street and see your reallity, painful ? isent it ? look at your stupid TV... interacial " friends " and CNN jew controled media.. you are the down fall of western civilization.. to bad the English dident finnish you convict settlers once and for all.... or as Varg Vikernes ( Norwegian Germanophile ) says.. I quote : the americans for the most part are..and I quote : the genetic waste shipped out from Europe.. hell. 70 million of you idiots thinks you are the choosen Jehovas people=Aryan nations.. :p btw I you where a real WN you would rekognize the real pure European majority not affected by moors or other non whites.. so it gives you away either as a jew , nigger or a stupid uneducated lemming kid..