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Dasyurus Maculatus
August 22nd, 2004, 05:06 AM
d30 Intelligent Armour makes an impact.
A new armor has been developed in the UK that will aid a lot of folks, from skateboarders to soldiers, and provides reactive self-defense to the wearer.
d30 armor is based on an intelligent material that in normal use allows smooth flow of its laminar structure when worn.
On impact within a hundredth of a second, the molecules of the d30 armor lock up, instantaneously linking with each other to provide a protective barrier.
The faster and harder the material is impacted, the more quickly the material reacts and links together. Once the shock wave at the point of impact has passed, the molecules unlock and provide normal smooth flow. :cool:
Its science-fact not science fiction and the UK inventor of d30 team is working with DuPont and others to develop the armor for uses including active-suspension footwear, and riding armor for the average grunt in the Humvee.
Will d30 create a whole new generation of armor products for body defense?.
http://www.d3olab.com/
Sean Martin
August 22nd, 2004, 05:17 AM
Isn't that similar to shooting Gel. It freezes up on impact from the bullet. Then you cut it in half and it shows the trajectory of the bullet and the damage different slugs do.
Dasyurus Maculatus
August 22nd, 2004, 08:12 AM
Isn't that similar to shooting Gel. It freezes up on impact from the bullet. Then you cut it in half and it shows the trajectory of the bullet and the damage different slugs do.
Doc I thinks its a different item as its a solid yellow fabric (d30 flex) .
The d30 Armor (for knee pads) I noticed on sale were made by an outfit called Casablanca Polo. It seems to be a lightweight solid rather than a gel. Its weird stuff and its bound to make an impact :p if thats the right term to use.
Racial Inquisitor
August 22nd, 2004, 09:56 PM
Sounds like an interesting material. A few years ago I heard about lexgard, a plastic laminate that could stop bullets(the LAPD even shot a piece of it with a submachine gun and not a single bullet made it through), but I never saw it developed into body armour, mainly because it is not very flexible.
Sean Martin
August 23rd, 2004, 12:47 AM
Yeah stopping a bullet doesn’t stop its damage. There is a lot of force when the bullet hits even though it may not penetrate it could crush ribs. But I would take a broken rib over a punctured lung any day.
Racial Inquisitor
August 23rd, 2004, 02:58 AM
Yeah stopping a bullet doesn’t stop its damage. There is a lot of force when the bullet hits even though it may not penetrate it could crush ribs. But I would take a broken rib over a punctured lung any day.
The trick is to dissipate most of the energy of the bullet "sideways" -so to speak- along the material in order to avoid most of the "shock" from hitting the wearer. Lexgard can do this, but the problem is how do you wear it comfortably? The material is a bit too rigid and thick to allow that.
Antiochus Epiphanes
August 23rd, 2004, 02:15 PM
this is the kind of shit our defense spending dollars goes to. a much more effective defense strategy for the US would be to stay the hell out of meaningless foreign wars to benefit the jew. a far more efficient use of resources for domestic law enforcement would be a massive roundup and sterilization of blacks. or deportation, whatever you think is more "humane" and effective.
instead we piss trillions away on "education" of sub 80 IQ bucks and other such failed approaches. all via the US taxpayer. your hard work at play. LOl we are suckers for putting up with this crap-
Racial Inquisitor
August 23rd, 2004, 09:13 PM
this is the kind of shit our defense spending dollars goes to.
Materials Science and Engineering is not any "kind of shit", it's a real scientific pursuit that shows valuable results and which deserves all the money invested in it(unlike the expenditure for Nigger "edjucashon".)
a much more effective defense strategy for the US would be to stay the hell out of meaningless foreign wars to benefit the jew. a far more efficient use of resources for domestic law enforcement would be a massive roundup and sterilization of blacks. or deportation, whatever you think is more "humane" and effective.
instead we piss trillions away on "education" of sub 80 IQ bucks and other such failed approaches. all via the US taxpayer. your hard work at play. LOl we are suckers for putting up with this crap-
Not that I disagree that Niggers are a major problem, but what the hell does this have to do with this thread? This thread is about impact resisting materials. They would be developed anyway, whether Niggers were around or not. It's called "progress".
Antiochus Epiphanes
August 24th, 2004, 10:41 AM
Materials Science and Engineering is not any "kind of shit", it's a real scientific pursuit that shows valuable results and which deserves all the money invested in it(unlike the expenditure for Nigger "edjucashon".)
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I dont have any problems with materials science and engineering, one of my best friends has a phd in the field and he is a top notch fellow.
However when it comes to defense spending, there are plenty of gee whiz technologies that are very expensive and have been built with blood sweat and tears of mostly White working Americans who since the end of WW2 have simultaneous to paying a bigger and bigger tab for taxes have also had the niggers etc moved into their neighborhoods and they have been expected to run off to the suburbs if they can afford it when not being sent off to fight and die in meaningless foreign wars to suit the jew right up to current day. So, NO, I dont agree that materials science "deserves" any particular money from the US taxpayer. Invested by private people? Great, good luck, wish them well. "Invested" by Defense Department? I dont think that's good.
But if you're just trying to tell me to be quiet so you can discuss the technology, I appreciate that and will refrain from further comments.
Racial Inquisitor
August 24th, 2004, 08:25 PM
But if you're just trying to tell me to be quiet so you can discuss the technology, I appreciate that and will refrain from further comments.
No, not at all, you are welcome to drop your input into the thread, but something not too unrelated to what is being discussed should be expected. Your comments were a bit puzzling because they dealt with the Nigger problem, which is not really very relevant here(science & technology would still have discovered these materials regardless of whether Niggers were around or not.)
Draco
August 25th, 2004, 12:45 PM
I would not trust my life to a material with a response time in the hundredths of a second.
Its a start, but bullets go fast. Measured in the hundreds of feet per second, depending on the bullet. If such a system had a time in the hundreds of thousands of seconds, that would be better, but the science is new, and it must start somewhere.
Ballistic plate deflects, instead of absorbing bullets. I'd rather see the "soft" absorbing armor go under rigid plate covering the head/face and torso.
Of course, plate is heavy, doesnt breathe, and is inflexible, not really suited to a soldier who has to wear it 16 hours a day, but ideal for "shock" troops or SWAT type officers who get equipped, go in, do their stuff, and leave.
Fun fact: Modern kevlar body armor can be defeated with an icepick or similar narrow pointed wepaon if thrust at a 90 degree angle. The point literally "works" through the layers of kevlar.
Current vests are rated in classes, each class denotes generally 8 ply of kevlar....a class 3 vest would have 24 ply kevlar.
Antiochus Epiphanes
August 26th, 2004, 01:30 PM
right which is why you get the trauma plate to go over the vitals
Draco
August 26th, 2004, 06:43 PM
right which is why you get the trauma plate to go over the vitals
That is a primitive view of it..ideally, the entire body could be covered in flexible plate, with soft fabric-based armor underneath for impact absorbtion, but weight and heat are a huge factor.
The reason the trauma plate over the heart isnt that great, is because:
1)A direct hit from a bullet at close range will likely stop the heart anyway. Boxers have been killed by punches to the chest, imagine a piece of metal travelling faster than sound.
2)Just because a bullet enters in say, the abdomen or shoulders, doesnt mean it will stay there. It can very well bounce its way into a vital organ anyway, and that trauma plate will be as shiny and new as the day it was made.
Sean Martin
August 27th, 2004, 01:41 AM
Why not just duck when the bullets start flying?
Sean Martin
August 27th, 2004, 04:18 AM
The classics look way cooler
http://www.brubakers.com/brubaker/breastplates/bplate1.gif
And protect your head also
http://www.stagesteel.com/battle-ready-helmet-images/heavy-armor-spangen-2503.jpg
Xuxalina Rihhia
September 23rd, 2004, 08:19 AM
If only we had body armor and head armor that looked good and protected very well from bullets...and not just for the Ameriqaeda letter terrorist organizations! (Note, I am proudly American, so please do not take this as an insult to Americans...I am only talking about government armed goon, thatz all!)
heaven above
September 24th, 2004, 10:55 PM
A guy who was in Ulster with me, was shot, and he said it was like being hit with an hammer. Now that sounds real.
Regarding the armour and so on, the similarities with tank armour and body armour will follow, surely ?
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