Joy Tree - "Islam is a greater threat"

[John in Woodbridge]

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=151034&page=9&pp=10

Islam is a far older enemy of our race than Judaism.

Of course it is a different threat and will have to be fought in quite different ways

In my opinion it will (for demographic reasons) be a far more serious enemy in the near future than the aging and withering jews.

Others may quite validly diagree with this, and believe that the jews are and will always be the more serious threat:

But it must clearly be understood that, whatever the relative seriousnes of the matter, Islam is a threat to our race of and by itself, irrespective of any jewish influence.

Really it is futile to imply that one or other of these enemies could under any circumstances be an ally or be useful to us, even though they occasionally claw at each other.

[STORMSOLDAAT]

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=151034&page=9&pp=10

Islam is a far older enemy of our race than Judaism.

Of course it is a different threat and will have to be fought in quite different ways

In my opinion it will (for demographic reasons) be a far more serious enemy in the near future than the aging and withering jews.

Others may quite validly diagree with this, and believe that the jews are and will always be the more serious threat:

But it must clearly be understood that, whatever the relative seriousnes of the matter, Islam is a threat to our race of and by itself, irrespective of any jewish influence.

Really it is futile to imply that one or other of these enemies could under any circumstances be an ally or be useful to us, even though they occasionally claw at each other.

My god that f****n Jew lover never stops....... :(

[No profanity in Civil Forum, please]

[John in Woodbridge]

I think JoyTree brings up some valid points. Islam seems to be the religion of choice for the mud races, which greatly outnumber Jews. Even many American blacks are embracing Islam.

Many on this forum believe that Al Queada attacks on 911 were orchestrated by Jews. I think the Muslim extremists that planned and executed the attacks were motivated partly by the United State's support of Israel, but this was only a small factor. The Jews are a more subversive threat, and the Mudlims are more in your face-type threat. I can't picture any type of mud being an ally to whites. They want to rape your women and take what you have, period.

[Franco]

I think JoyTree brings up some valid points. Islam seems to be the religion of choice for the mud races, which greatly outnumber Jews. Even many American blacks are embracing Islam.

Many on this forum believe that Al Queada attacks on 911 were orchestrated by Jews. I think the Muslim extremists that planned and executed the attacks were motivated partly by the United State's support of Israel, but this was only a small factor. The Jews are a more subversive threat, and the Mudlims are more in your face-type threat. I can't picture any type of mud being an ally to whites. They want to rape your women and take what you have, period.



When the Arabs/Muslims control our media, Hollywood, leftist groups and foreign policy - among other things - as the Jews do, THEN I will worry. Until then...





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[Napoleon]

Hitler was not an enemy of Islam; he was rather fond of it.

[STORMSOLDAAT]

When the Arabs/Muslims control our media, Hollywood, leftist groups and foreign policy - among other things - as the Jews do, THEN I will worry. Until then...
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I agree, our oldest and strongest enamy is the JEW!

F**k this s**t about Zionists and none Zionist jews, it makes no difference.

A jew is a jew. Just like a N****r is a N****r. Once we start listening liberal sellouts we are finished and the jew has won!


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[Mike Jahn]

When the Arabs/Muslims control our media, Hollywood, leftist groups and foreign policy - among other things - as the Jews do, THEN I will worry. Until then...





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Exactly, I've noticed that primitive simpletons worry about PHYSICAL threats more than MENTAL ones. For every 1 White person that Muslims have killed, the Jews have brainwashed 500 and this is the real danger. A White person with a healthy physical body means nothing to me if they've already been psychologically annihilated by Jewish propaganda.

[STORMSOLDAAT]

Exactly, I've noticed that primitive simpletons worry about PHYSICAL threats more than MENTAL ones. For every 1 White person that Muslims have killed, the Jews have brainwashed 500 and this is the real danger. A White person with a healthy physical body means nothing to me if they've already been psychologically annihilated by Jewish propaganda.

Very true indeed! I agree 100%! If the jewish media has got to them they will being doing drugs, supporting anti white laws and sleeping with subhumans in no time!!!

Notice I say JEWISH not Zionist (no difference, same threat).

[Mike in Denver]

Muslims are mostly mediocre and inept people. They are little threat to us in the US. The lowest of North Africans, Turks and other Muslims have infected Europe, but on their own this would not have happened. They are in Europe because the globalists want them there to demoralize and dilute the nations of Europe, exactly the role the Mexicans serve here.

I’m convinced Muslims were not responsible for any of the “terrorist� acts committed against America or Americans. Or, at most as unwitting saps.

As for my personal view of Arabs\Muslims, I’m largely ambivalent. I’ve traveled in Morocco numerous times and Egypt twice. Here in the US, I know a few Moroccans, Lebanese, and Egyptians. The only Muslims I’ve met that I disliked were spoiled rich Saudi brats. I feel obligated to sympathize with the Palestinian and Iraqi people. They are innocent of any harm to me, and my country is guilty of participating in the wholesale slaughter of their men, women, and children.

Enkidu

[Anima Eternae]

I think many of the European posters do view Islam on par as a threat to their society or even moreso.

It makes sense. America isn't being demographically raped by arabs, Europe is. (Yes, you can tell me how Jews did it). I'm glad the europeans see both as enemies, instead of shamelessly Islam-bootlicking for fighting "ZOG".



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[Mike Jahn]

I think many of the European posters do view Islam on par as a threat to their society or even moreso.

It makes sense. America isn't being demographically raped by arabs, Europe is. (Yes, you can tell me how Jews did it). I'm glad the europeans see both as enemies, instead of shamelessly Islam-bootlicking for fighting "ZOG".



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Aren't you part-Asian anyway? Why would you care if Europe is White?

[AK*]

Muslims are mostly mediocre and inept people. They are little threat to us in the US. The lowest of North Africans, Turks and other Muslims have infected Europe, but on their own this would not have happened. They are in Europe because the globalists want them there to demoralize and dilute the nations of Europe, exactly the role the Mexicans serve here.

I’m convinced Muslims were not responsible for any of the “terrorist� acts committed against America or Americans. Or, at most as unwitting saps.

As for my personal view of Arabs\Muslims, I’m largely ambivalent. I’ve traveled in Morocco numerous times and Egypt twice. Here in the US, I know a few Moroccans, Lebanese, and Egyptians. The only Muslims I’ve met that I disliked were spoiled rich Saudi brats. I feel obligated to sympathize with the Palestinian and Iraqi people. They are innocent of any harm to me, and my country is guilty of participating in the wholesale slaughter of their men, women, and children.

Enkidu

Very good point, and to say the islamics are more of a threat than the jews is about the same as saying the mexicraps are more of a threat to USA Whites than jews.

[heaven above]

The flood of wogs into Europe is a mere symptom.

The jews have promoted the 'multi-racial cesspit' for all they are worth and now some of them have seen, that they have overstepped the mark again.

Don't forget that not all the wogs are muslims. So are the non-muslim wogs OK in Europe ?

I don't think so !

The zionist jews are the cause. The wogs are just a symptom.

[Anima Eternae]

Aren't you part-Asian anyway? Why would you care if Europe is White?

I lived in Europe half my life.


When I visit Europe, I want to see Europeans, not arab or turkish muslims.



The flood of wogs into Europe is a mere symptom.

The jews have promoted the 'multi-racial cesspit' for all they are worth and now some of them have seen, that they have overstepped the mark again.

Don't forget that not all the wogs are muslims. So are the non-muslim wogs OK in Europe ?

I don't think so !

The zionist jews are the cause. The wogs are just a symptom.


I still have yet to see a substantive aggregation of proof that Jews altered immigration laws in Europe. America, yes.


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[Starr]

It is ridiculous to think that Islam is a greater threat then the Jews. Islam does not have control over our media that is destroying are culture and total control over our government. I can guarantee that there are no Islamic puppets in the congress or the white house that our directing our lives in the united states and controlling all aspects of our foreign policy and driving us into unnecessary wars.

But, it is almost as ridiculous to say that Islam in not a threat at all, as some on here seem to think. It is just crazy to think that ALL of our problems with the muslim world are ONLY because of the jewish stranglehold on us. While that is a major reasons for the Islamic hatred of us, it is not the ONLY reason. Does anyone think that if every lemming had some "great awakening" and the jews lost all power and control over us, all of our problems with the muslims would magically end, if you do you would be in for a very rude awakening.

Of course the Jews are a much greater threat to us, but we can not turn away from the muslim threat and pretend it doesn't exist.

[JohnJizmTree]

Hitler was not an enemy of Islam; he was rather fond of it.
I dont think so.

Is that why he arrested Imams, closed European mosques and sent Muslims to certain 'camps' along with the Jude ?.

[STORMSOLDAAT]

I dont think so.

Is that why he arrested Imams, closed European mosques and sent Muslims to certain 'camps' along with the Jude ?.

I nearly said something like that myself, but then thought why bother. People often say things about the greatest Aryan leader that has lived that are half truths or out right lies....

Most of the lies come from the jewish media industry that is fed to us EVERY day!

I say Jewish not Zionist (a jews is a jew).

[heaven above]

The jewish Board of Deputies has drafted all the Race Act legislation that has been passed by Parliament here in the UK.

The most infamous of the 'insider jews' responsible for most of this, is one Neville Nagler. He was a senior adviser with Margaret Thatcher. He still works for the Zionist Board of Deputies.

[STORMSOLDAAT]

Is JohnJewTree a fool or a traitor or both?


Good question, He is a jew lover, he uses his position on SF to protect and defend the GOOD jews and point the finger of blame ONLY at zionists. He is a sellout and a liberal who helping turn the BNP into a muslim bashing conservative party. Don't misunderstand me I have no time for the Muslim religon or the subhumans that follow it! But the jew ALL JEWS are a far bigger day to day threat than the muslims as any REAL WN will know.

Is he a fool? Yes if the thinks the jew will ever thank him for his PR work for them!

[John in Woodbridge]

Notice I say JEWISH not Zionist (no difference, same threat).

If "Zionism" means Jews wanting their own separate state, then I have no problem with that. The big media Jews have the money to live in any white country they want, so even if Israel is nuked off the face of the earth I don't believe Jewish influence in Western countries would change much at all.

Another factor is while for most of history Jews have been a close-knit tribal group, but in the past few generation many have married outside their ethnic group. I doubt their offspring will have the same tribal affiliation for the most part.

So while today the Jews may be the topic de jour in next few generations it might be one of pure demographics - whites v. non-whites

[kalki]

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=151034&page=9&pp=10

Islam is a far older enemy of our race than Judaism.

Of course it is a different threat and will have to be fought in quite different ways

In my opinion it will (for demographic reasons) be a far more serious enemy in the near future than the aging and withering jews.

Others may quite validly diagree with this, and believe that the jews are and will always be the more serious threat:

But it must clearly be understood that, whatever the relative seriousnes of the matter, Islam is a threat to our race of and by itself, irrespective of any jewish influence.

Really it is futile to imply that one or other of these enemies could under any circumstances be an ally or be useful to us, even though they occasionally claw at each other.

JEWS ARE GREATEST THREAT TO WHITES.

PERIOD.

[Franco]

The jewish Board of Deputies has drafted all the Race Act legislation that has been passed by Parliament here in the UK.

The most infamous of the 'insider jews' responsible for most of this, is one Neville Nagler. He was a senior adviser with Margaret Thatcher. He still works for the Zionist Board of Deputies.




Please tell me more about this. Everything that you can remember.




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[Bragi]

What Rounder said. Succinct and to the point.

I've met lots of Arabs and they're usually friendly and honest people, contrary to what the media has told me about them. I've also come across quite a few jews, and they're nasty cruel beings, contrary to what the media says.

Islam as a threat to the US would vanish if the United States were not infested with the jew and therefore unilaterally supportive of Israel's hate policies against the Muslim world.

Federal Government + Devastating Jewish Influence = Muslims hate America.

To the Muslim world, America is just a big plaything of the hated jew. Mohammed doesn't know where Israel ends and America begins. This is why they hate us: not for our freedom and democracy, but because our government has been taken over by the jew. Americans don't know it or can't see it thanks to the controlled media, but Islam sees it all too clearly. They have every right to hate ZOGUSA.

[heaven above]

Please tell me more about this. Everything that you can remember.




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More detail to follow.

[Franco]

Mohammed doesn't know where Israel ends and America begins.



Yes. America had no problem with the Arab world until Israel was founded in 1948.




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[brutus]

RE: Franco

Thank you for lending crystal clarity to this issue.

When the Arabs/Muslims control our media, Hollywood, leftist groups and foreign policy - among other things - as the Jews do, THEN I will worry. Until then...

JohnJoyTree does discount his basic assertion to a degree, by why does he make the assertion in the first place?

Aren't we White Nationals because our archenemy is the jew?

[John in Woodbridge]

Hey Franco and Braqi ! The Chechnian attrocity has inticed our forum's jews and other subversives to come out from under their rocks to incite hatred against the enemies of Israel, thereby revealing themselves.

Remember them.

Sorry bud, but after seeing Americans jumping out of the twin towers I don't have a particular fondness for your mud heroes.

The Twin Towers were a technological wonder of the West, two vertical cities. They represented the financial nerve center of the Western World, which was why they were targeted. Not only did the collapse of the towers kill thousands of Americans and costed billions in property damage, it caused a ripple effect through the economy and many Americans lost their jobs as a result.

For the Muslim extremists any bit of Western culture undermines their archaic power structure and culture.

[Franco]

Trivia: there were NO terrorist attacks by Arabs against American targets anywhere in the world until well after Israel was created.



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[Franco]

But Jews did try to make the world think that Arabs attacked American targets in the 1950s [read about what is known as 'The Lavon Affair'].



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[Franco]

Sorry bud, but after seeing Americans jumping out of the twin towers I don't have a particular fondness for your mud heroes.

The Twin Towers were a technological wonder of the West, two vertical cities. They represented the financial nerve center of the Western World, which was why they were targeted. Not only did the collapse of the towers kill thousands of Americans and costed billions in property damage, it caused a ripple effect through the economy and many Americans lost their jobs as a result.

For the Muslim extremists any bit of Western culture undermines their archaic power structure and culture.



Why was America attacked on Sept. 11, 2001?


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[superiorman]

Sorry bud, but after seeing Americans jumping out of the twin towers I don't have a particular fondness for your mud heroes.

The Twin Towers were a technological wonder of the West, two vertical cities. They represented the financial nerve center of the Western World, which was why they were targeted. Not only did the collapse of the towers kill thousands of Americans and costed billions in property damage, it caused a ripple effect through the economy and many Americans lost their jobs as a result.

For the Muslim extremists any bit of Western culture undermines their archaic power structure and culture.


The Reason why we were attacked on 9/11 was because our support of Israel it's simple as that. we keep provoking them and provoking them and then idiots like you are suprised when they hit back.
We never had any problems Arabs or Muslims before the creation of Israel.
This is years and years of unfair double standard policies agaisn't people in the middle east, and our 100% support of Israel on what ever crime they commit on the Palestinian people is the reason why we are in the mess that we are in right now.

[John in Woodbridge]

Why was America attacked on Sept. 11, 2001?


Western society is great threat to Muslim extremists in the Middle-East, where the US is described as "The Great Satan". I have yet to hear Israel described as that by the Arabs. Western dollars flow the Arab countries because of the oil money, and our presence there, rightly or wrongly, is to ensure the flow of oil, which is the life-blood of the economy.

I had a long conversation with a Jordanian citizen (dual-citizenship) about the middle-east. He said there are 22 Arab countries, and every single one of them is ruled by a monarchy. Even though the countries may be wealthy with oil profits, the general population live like paupers.

Just out of curiosity I brought up Israel and the Neo-cons but it just seemed like a peripheral issue to him at best. Most Arabs could care less about the Palestinians and the Jews don't run the show in Arab countries.

[Franco]

Most Arabs could care less about the Palestinians




Well, that is news to me. I would love to see data and statistics about that.



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[John in Woodbridge]

We never had any problems Arabs or Muslims before the creation of Israel.


Post-hoc argument. We never had any problems with Arabs or Muslims before Hawaii was made a state, but this doesn't mean that the Muslims are attacking us because of Hawaii.

(Our support of Israel is a factor in this conflict, however)

[Bragi]

Sorry bud, but after seeing Americans jumping out of the twin towers I don't have a particular fondness for your mud heroes.

The Twin Towers were a technological wonder of the West, two vertical cities. They represented the financial nerve center of the Western World, which was why they were targeted. Not only did the collapse of the towers kill thousands of Americans and costed billions in property damage, it caused a ripple effect through the economy and many Americans lost their jobs as a result.

For the Muslim extremists any bit of Western culture undermines their archaic power structure and culture.

Methinks the pic in your avatar is you, taken last year.

[John in Woodbridge]

Well, that is news to me. I would love to see data and statistics about that.





Have you every seen the skyline of Qatar? It looks like Las Vegas, but with an Arab flavor.

http://www.qatar.ru/images/qatar-art.jpg

That small Arab country alone could easily buy every Palestinian a home in the Hamptons.

[King_Tiger]

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=151034&page=9&pp=10

Islam is a far older enemy of our race than Judaism.

Of course it is a different threat and will have to be fought in quite different ways

In my opinion it will (for demographic reasons) be a far more serious enemy in the near future than the aging and withering jews.

Others may quite validly diagree with this, and believe that the jews are and will always be the more serious threat:

But it must clearly be understood that, whatever the relative seriousnes of the matter, Islam is a threat to our race of and by itself, irrespective of any jewish influence.

Really it is futile to imply that one or other of these enemies could under any circumstances be an ally or be useful to us, even though they occasionally claw at each other.If jews are destroyed, how do you suppose Muslims will bother us? Once ZOG America takes its big hooknose out of middle eastern affairs, I personally do not think they will have any reason to hate whitey. All right, Jim- I'll bet here are the biggest threats Muslims pose to white people in your minds-

1. They are killing our mainly white armies in the middle east.

2. They are flooding into white countries (moreso in Canada and Europe than here; we have the mexishits to deal with), in some cases mixing with whites and "dirtying" the white gene pool.

3. They are terrorists because Islam specifically tells them that they must kill all white people.

And my answers to them-

1. The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are Jew wars, waged for and by the jews, not liberating the oppressed iraqis and afghanis, not for oil, not because Dick Cheney is an evil scheming capitalist, not because George Bush is a "racist" who wants to kill "brown people". (A favorite liberal line) If you do not realize this by now, then your are probably in over your head as it is.

2. Once again, the Jew is behind all non-white immigration schemes. Besides, I don't have numbers on hand but I'd wager that Muslims mix with whites somewhat less than other non-whites, especially niggers. They usually won't marry a white woman unless they convert, which is rare. Nevertheless, they are social parasites and destroyers of white culture wherever they go.

3. Jew propaganda. What are you going to say to prove this, Jim? Cite the Moorish invasion of Spain or the Ottomans in SE Europe? That had nothing to with race, but with land aquistition and empire building. It was no deliberate assault on whites; the Moors and Ottomans invaded and conquered most of the Near East and N. Africa, enslaving niggers and causing trouble for other races as well. Iron Worker also posted a link on here about "Nordic Arabs", citing evidence that claims that many prominent Caliphs and Sultans were really white guys... the source looked kind of shady and I don't know how true this is; but regardless, there is no concerted effort on muslims to destroy whites. This task belongs to the jew.Islam is a far older enemy of our race than Judaism.Uhhh... excuse me?

Did you forget about the Israelites pissing off the Egyptians? The revolts against the Persians? The Maccabees causing trouble in Classical Greece? The multiple and seemingly continuous Jewish revolts and against the Romans, only to have their shit ruined time and time again? Come on man, this shit happened hundreds of years before Islam even existed.

I addressed this "muslim vs. jew" issue in a couple other posts in more detail- feel free to read them:

http://www.vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=107576&postcount=30

http://www.vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=107633&postcount=34

http://www.vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=100746&postcount=16

[King_Tiger]

Western society is great threat to Muslim extremists in the Middle-East, where the US is described as "The Great Satan". I have yet to hear Israel described as that by the Arabs. Western dollars flow the Arab countries because of the oil money, and our presence there, rightly or wrongly, is to ensure the flow of oil, which is the life-blood of the economy.LOL.

In your first sentence you sound like a diehard neocon jew (krauthammer and ledeen come to mind), and in your third sentence you sound like a Michael Moore (fatass white man/cunt) fan, describing how the war was for oil and all part of the big bush/saudi family conspiracy.

I had a long conversation with a Jordanian citizen (dual-citizenship) about the middle-east. He said there are 22 Arab countries, and every single one of them is ruled by a monarchy.Shit, I'll take that over this form of Jewish democracy (more like oligarchy). At least someone from a royal bloodline of their own race runs the country, not a bunch of scheming yids.Even though the countries may be wealthy with oil profits, the general population live like paupers.Are you fucking kidding? I could understand maybe if you talked to an Iraqi guy, but Jordan is booming. Matter of fact, my mom just visited there a month or two ago. They got first-run American movies, malls and new houses are popping up everywhere, lots of new car sales; Amman and the other big cities are expanding rapidly. And you are seriously mistaken if you think there aren't Jordanians with any money. Some of those motherfuckers are loaded. I know the people my mom stayed with owned 3 BMWs and a Cadillac. (LOL for some reason over there they find Caddies to be more prestigious than Beemers or Benzes. :confused: Go figure! I guess they don't know they're made by niggers)

Just out of curiosity I brought up Israel and the Neo-cons but it just seemed like a peripheral issue to him at best. Most Arabs could care less about the Palestinians and the Jews don't run the show in Arab countries.I don't know who the hell this person is you were talking to...

[Anima Eternae]

Good points Jim. I despise Islam as well, and I find such near-worship like status of it disgusting.



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[STORMSOLDAAT]

Sorry bud, but after seeing Americans jumping out of the twin towers I don't have a particular fondness for your mud heroes. .

You really think the arabs/muslims were lucky enough to hit such a big target in the business centre of America without help, people turning a blind eye?????

Come on open your eyes! Are you not seeing the big picture yet, who is gaining out of this?

Have the jews not suddenly got the support of most of the western world against their main enamy?

Who has gained from this?

We know who lost WE DID, we always do !

[Anima Eternae]

Jews didn't need 9/11 to invade Afghanistan or Iraq.


Did Clinton need any major justifcation for Serbia?


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[Mike Jahn]

If jews are destroyed, how do you suppose Muslims will bother us? Once ZOG America takes its big hooknose out of middle eastern affairs, I personally do not think they will have any reason to hate whitey. All right, Jim- I'll bet here are the biggest threats Muslims pose to white people in your minds-

1. They are killing our mainly white armies in the middle east.

2. They are flooding into white countries (moreso in Canada and Europe than here; we have the mexishits to deal with), in some cases mixing with whites and "dirtying" the white gene pool.

3. They are terrorists because Islam specifically tells them that they must kill all white people.

And my answers to them-

1. The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are Jew wars, waged for and by the jews, not liberating the oppressed iraqis and afghanis, not for oil, not because Dick Cheney is an evil scheming capitalist, not because George Bush is a "racist" who wants to kill "brown people". (A favorite liberal line) If you do not realize this by now, then your are probably in over your head as it is.

2. Once again, the Jew is behind all non-white immigration schemes. Besides, I don't have numbers on hand but I'd wager that Muslims mix with whites somewhat less than other non-whites, especially niggers. They usually won't marry a white woman unless they convert, which is rare. Nevertheless, they are social parasites and destroyers of white culture wherever they go.

3. Jew propaganda. What are you going to say to prove this, Jim? Cite the Moorish invasion of Spain or the Ottomans in SE Europe? That had nothing to with race, but with land aquistition and empire building. It was no deliberate assault on whites; the Moors and Ottomans invaded and conquered most of the Near East and N. Africa, enslaving niggers and causing trouble for other races as well. Iron Worker also posted a link on here about "Nordic Arabs", citing evidence that claims that many prominent Caliphs and Sultans were really white guys... the source looked kind of shady and I don't know how true this is; but regardless, there is no concerted effort on muslims to destroy whites. This task belongs to the jew.Uhhh... excuse me?

Did you forget about the Israelites pissing off the Egyptians? The revolts against the Persians? The Maccabees causing trouble in Classical Greece? The multiple and seemingly continuous Jewish revolts and against the Romans, only to have their shit ruined time and time again? Come on man, this shit happened hundreds of years before Islam even existed.

I addressed this "muslim vs. jew" issue in a couple other posts in more detail- feel free to read them:

http://www.vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=107576&postcount=30

http://www.vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=107633&postcount=34

http://www.vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=100746&postcount=16

You have done a good job of exposing Crowe's myths very well. As far as the race issue goes, you are 100% correct. Muslims don't give a damn about racial purity therefore they would mate with White, Black, or Asian without thinking anything of it. I could grow a thick, dark beard right now and convert to Islam and go live in Lebanon and the local population wouldn't have any problem with it. 9-11 had NOTHING to do with Muslims hating White people. Arab hatred of America is connected to intrusive Western economic imperialism into the Middle East and U.S. support of Israel. Nothing racial whatsoever. Also, if the Arab terrorists hate Whites so much, why did they behead that South Korean guy? Yes, it's true that Arabs love White women but so do Jews and Blacks.

If it seems like Arabs are Pro-Black/Anti-White in their political allegiances it is only because Blacks appear to them to be more prone to conversion.

[STORMSOLDAAT]

Jews didn't need 9/11 to invade Afghanistan or Iraq.


Did Clinton need any major justifcation for Serbia?


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They needed 911 to start to close anti-jewish bank accounts with the new "Anti Terror laws". They did need 911 to get support for the invasion of Iraq.

You do seem to want to protect the image the jewish world would like us to see? Why is this? Not a hook nose are you? :confused:

[Harry Flash]

When the Arabs/Muslims control our media, Hollywood, leftist groups and foreign policy - among other things - as the Jews do, THEN I will worry. Until then...





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Damn right Franco. The muds may have the numbers but the Jew has the power. As far as I can see, Islam is simply a religion like Christianity. Better a white muslim than a black christian.

Jew Tree in his simplistic analysis appears to have confused religion with race.

[STORMSOLDAAT]

Damn right Franco. The muds may have the numbers but the Jew has the power. As far as I can see, Islam is simply a religion like Christianity. Better a white muslim than a black christian.

Jew Tree in his simplistic analysis appears to have confused religion with race.

Jew tree is a sellout liberal. The jew lover wants to confuse the race issue, to protect & support the GOOD none zionist jews he likes to go on about!

All true WNs/NSs know we have to always keep a watchful eye out for the Jew Trees in our ranks. :eek:

[John in Woodbridge]

In your first sentence you sound like a diehard neocon jew (krauthammer and ledeen come to mind), and in your third sentence you sound like a Michael Moore (fatass white man/cunt) fan, describing how the war was for oil and all part of the big bush/saudi family conspiracy.


I wasn't addressing our recent involvement in the middle-east, since this occured post 9-11 and is irrelevant to 9-11. But since you brought it up I think it was a correct action to go into Afghanistan and the Taliban. We needed to go after countries that supported Al Quaeda. Whether you believe terrorists were justified in their attacks on the US the fact remains they attacked us on our own homeland, and the US needed to respond in a harsh manner.

I always believed that our war in Iraq was unjustified and a disaster but everyone here already knows that.

[John in Woodbridge]

You really ought to go spend coupla weeks on the main page before shooting off your mouth here. You are giving aid and comfort to your GD jew masters, and formenting more hatreds against the most formidable enemies of Israel.

While the Jews may thrive on conflict, the same is true of Muslim extremists (I'm not equated the extremists to most Muslims). The UN's involvement in the original Gulf War had the blessing of the Arab countries and most of the European countries, as Saddam was the aggressor to a neighboring Arab country.

I don't believe it is our business what type of government the Arab countries have, or that democracy is the best form of government for everyone. But the fact remains that any encroachment of western culture undermines these monarchies and archaic religious belief-systems, so these governments may lend support to Al-Queada and other anti-west entities.

The question of Israel is a regional conflict and is irrelevant to Jewish control in the United States and elsewhere, although our foreign policy decisions should be what's in the United States best interest and not Israel's or any other foreign state.

[Ossian]

Strange how America attacks those who (eg., the South in the Civil War, Germans in WWI-II, Arabs in Arabia, Serbs, etc.) have never attacked or threatened us... while insanely giving aid, special privileges, and encouragement to those who actually do cause great harm to us (like Arabs and other aliens in America, jews, and niggers.)

If I, from watching copious amounts of TV, didn't know better, I'd say that [White] America is no longer America, because it has been infected with some kind of ideological virus which causes it to serve every imaginable interest except its own.

[outsider]

But Jews did try to make the world think that Arabs attacked American targets in the 1950s [read about what is known as 'The Lavon Affair'].

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Let's not forget their attack on the USS Liberty and their attempt to pin the blame for the attack on the Egyptians.

[outsider]

While the Jews may thrive on conflict, the same is true of Muslim extremists (I'm not equated the extremists to most Muslims). The UN's involvement in the original Gulf War had the blessing of the Arab countries and most of the European countries, as Saddam was the aggressor to a neighboring Arab country.

I don't believe it is our business what type of government the Arab countries have, or that democracy is the best form of government for everyone. But the fact remains that any encroachment of western culture undermines these monarchies and archaic religious belief-systems, so these governments may lend support to Al-Queada and other anti-west entities.

The question of Israel is a regional conflict and is irrelevant to Jewish control in the United States and elsewhere, although our foreign policy decisions should be what's in the United States best interest and not Israel's or any other foreign state.


Western "culture"? Sorry, but I've come to despise Western "culture". To the Middle East, Western "culture" means McDonalds, MTV, kikes, fat people, USURY, kikes, prostitution, all around decay, did I say kikes? Todays western culture = SHIT.

I could care less what Arab leaders do in their own countries. I could care less how brutal their laws are. I could care less if their women have to dress like ninjas and aren't allowed to speak unless spoken to. That's their business. Al CIAda and Bin Laden are real-life "Emmanuel Goldsteins".

Israel is 110% relevant to Jewish control in the US other contries they infect! I shouldn't have to explain this. The kikes here got us in a war on behalf of the kikes over there.

[John in Woodbridge]

Western "culture"? Sorry, but I've come to despise Western "culture". To the Middle East, Western "culture" means McDonalds, MTV, kikes, fat people, USURY, kikes, prostitution, all around decay, did I say kikes? Todays western culture = SHIT.

Maybe true but would you rather live in the US or in an Arab country as a commoner?

Didn't think so.

[Mike Jahn]

Western "culture"? Sorry, but I've come to despise Western "culture". To the Middle East, Western "culture" means McDonalds, MTV, kikes, fat people, USURY, kikes, prostitution, all around decay, did I say kikes? Todays western culture = SHIT.

I could care less what Arab leaders do in their own countries. I could care less how brutal their laws are. I could care less if their women have to dress like ninjas and aren't allowed to speak unless spoken to. That's their business. Al CIAda and Bin Laden are real-life "Emmanuel Goldsteins".

Israel is 110% relevant to Jewish control in the US other contries they infect! I shouldn't have to explain this. The kikes here got us in a war on behalf of the kikes over there.

Excellent points outsider, Western "culture" is a pile of garbage...rap music, Feminism, homosexuality on every popular TV show, non-stop repulsive Yiddish-style humor in sitcoms/movies, cult-like submissive worship of millionaire celebrities, etc.....

The west is a rotting Judaic beast

[STORMSOLDAAT]

Western "culture"? Sorry, but I've come to despise Western "culture". To the Middle East, Western "culture" means McDonalds, MTV, kikes, fat people, USURY, kikes, prostitution, all around decay, did I say kikes? Todays western culture = SHIT.

I could care less what Arab leaders do in their own countries. I could care less how brutal their laws are. I could care less if their women have to dress like ninjas and aren't allowed to speak unless spoken to. That's their business. Al CIAda and Bin Laden are real-life "Emmanuel Goldsteins".

Israel is 110% relevant to Jewish control in the US other contries they infect! I shouldn't have to explain this. The kikes here got us in a war on behalf of the kikes over there.

Once again I have to agree with 100% of your comments, what can I add other than you are right! :D

[outsider]

Maybe true but would you rather live in the US or in an Arab country as a commoner?

Didn't think so.

Although I said absolutely nothing about wanting to live elsewhere (other than in your cathode ray tube damaged imagination), living in the mideast is not an option. I was attacking Western "McCulture" which IS shit. I was not attacking Western traditions which led to the foundation of once great nations like America. Go back and read the post. If I attacked any of your creature comforts ("McCulture"), deal with it. The type of Western culture that gets exported to non-Western non-white nations is the Jew variety.

[John in Woodbridge]

Although I said absolutely nothing about wanting to live elsewhere (other than in your cathode ray tube damaged imagination), living in the mideast is not an option. I was attacking Western "McCulture" which IS shit. I was not attacking Western traditions which led to the foundation of once great nations like America. Go back and read the post. If I attacked any of your creature comforts ("McCulture"), deal with it. The type of Western culture that gets exported to non-Western non-white nations is the Jew variety.

I agree with you here. Western culture since the 50's has turned to shit, but with democracies and freedom comes a certain amount of decadence, and the Arab populations are not immune to this.

[Mike Jahn]

I agree with you here. Western culture since the 50's has turned to shit, but with democracies and freedom comes a certain amount of decadence, and the Arab populations are not immune to this.

Decadence doesn't have to be inherent to Democracies. I saw a study from New Zealand by a researcher who showed that since 1970, the number one "Value" in the west was MONEY. This is the result of rampant individualism and the lack of faith in anything else. When I read about young Frenchmen in WWII volunteering to fight in the Waffen-SS just to destroy Communism on the Eastern front it's almost difficult to comprehend because in recent years, no one fights for ANYTHING beyond SELF. The western world of 2000 and the ideological world of 1941 seem like two entirely different planets.

[John in Woodbridge]

I'm still waiting for Crow to answer my 2 questions.

I think I did answer your two questions, just that it's not the two answers you wanted to hear.

The middle-east can be thought of as a big hornet's nest. Every time we go in there it's like striking the nest with a stick, so of course the least involvement we have over there the better. Without oil our involvement over there would be nilch, just as we could care less about the Sudan.

Jews or no-Jews, the evolution of societies tend to favor some type of democracy and freedoms for the common citizenry. Muslim-extremists need to keep a tight grip on their citizens to retain their power structure.

[STORMSOLDAAT]

Muslim-extremists need to keep a tight grip on their citizens to retain their power structure.

So that would be like the Jews needing to retain a stronge grip around our throuts to keep their power structure safe, with their media, banking and laws, so no difference between the Muslims and the jews ways of doing things?

Oh yes, one big one! The muslims do it to their people, the jews do it to ours!!! :mad:

[John in Woodbridge]

So that would be like the Jews needing to retain a stronge grip around our throuts to keep their power structure safe, with their media, banking and laws, so no difference between the Muslims and the jews ways of doing things?


Similar, but different. The Muslims use government dictatorships to control their people, the Jews use the capitalist system to control ours. The Jews use the Aryans' sense of atruism against us (atruism is a positive trait in a homogenous society, but a disaster in a multi-cult one).

As far as Talmudvision (to borrow the phrase from Norcal) is wouldn't exist without a demand for it. Whites love these kike shows.

[John in Woodbridge]

If the jew-led neocons are successful in igniting a global war between the Islamic and Christian civilizations, which side will you cheer for while watching it on your TV screen?

Both the Muslim extremists AND the neo-cons want a global war between Islamic and Christian civilizations (two sides to the same coin). Since the Christian nations are typically white nations I'd be on their side, but their would be no winners in a global conflict, only one side coming up slightly less bloody.

[Heinrich Himmler SS]

No, Judaism is the bigger threat. Israel's zionist politics are making wars and almost genocide in the Middle East. You could say they are doing our job for us but once they're done with the Arabs they'd come for us too. Israel is funded and backed up by the United States, Arabs throw rocks and use old Soviet weapons while Israel uses new high tech American weapons.

[Franco]

Trivia: only one state in the Middle East has come close to using nukes in a NON-NUKE war: Israel, in the war of late 1973. Israel came close to using them.

Can we all sleep better at night knowing that?



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[King_Tiger]

I wasn't addressing our recent involvement in the middle-east, since this occured post 9-11 and is irrelevant to 9-11. But since you brought it up I think it was a correct action to go into Afghanistan and the Taliban. We needed to go after countries that supported Al Quaeda. Whether you believe terrorists were justified in their attacks on the US the fact remains they attacked us on our own homeland, and the US needed to respond in a harsh manner.Yeah... gee what happened to that bin Laden guy anyway? I've realized for over a year that there is conclusive evidence showing Jewry had some part in 9/11, whether they actually flew the planes, hired Muslim patsies, or worked with ZOG, can be debated. But now, I'm even beginnning to sway into the camp of those who believe that THE WHOLE DAMN THING is one big joke. Like outsider said, bin laden is a real-life emmanuel goldstein. Three fuckin years and the best army in the world with top-notch equiptment can't find some stinky old caveman in a turban hiding in the mountains? Yeah, right...The middle-east can be thought of as a big hornet's nest. Every time we go in there it's like striking the nest with a stick, so of course the least involvement we have over there the better. Without oil our involvement over there would be nilch, just as we could care less about the Sudan.Jim...

It's not about oil. It's about Jews. Come on, this war for oil bullshit is pure hippy leftist crap. Oil was just icing on the cake. Did ya forget that Saddam was the one Arab guy in the neighborhood who didn't bow down and sell out to his Jewish masters? That he was the only one with a sizeable army? (still not as good as Izzy's, but big step up from rock-throwing palestinians) Remember when Saddam fired two SCUDS into Tel Aviv in the early '90s, just for shits and giggles? The fact that the jewsmedia dares not speak Israel's name when discussing causes of war should tell you enough. I'm sure you saw the treatment senator Fritz Hollings got from the ADL, AIPAC, and other Jew henchmen when he finally came clean. Now I wonder why these fellas have no problem with fat marxist michael moore, who says the war was for oil, killing brown people, and a secret bush-bin laden connection?Both the Muslim extremists AND the neo-cons want a global war between Islamic and Christian civilizations (two sides to the same coin). Since the Christian nations are typically white nations I'd be on their side, but their would be no winners in a global conflict, only one side coming up slightly less bloody.I don't believe it is our business what type of government the Arab countries have, or that democracy is the best form of government for everyone. But the fact remains that any encroachment of western culture undermines these monarchies and archaic religious belief-systems, so these governments may lend support to Al-Queada and other anti-west entities.Jews or no-Jews, the evolution of societies tend to favor some type of democracy and freedoms for the common citizenry. Muslim-extremists need to keep a tight grip on their citizens to retain their power structure.Jim Crowe's sounds strikingly similar to the words of top neocon yids Richard Perle and Charles Krauthammer as expressed in their new books:So, how do we advance the cause of female emancipation in the Muslim world? We need to remind the women of Islam ceaselessly: Our enemies are the same as theirs; our victory will be theirs as wellThis war ... is about – deeply about – sex. Militant Islam is threatened by the West because of our twin doctrines of equality and sexual liberation.Pat Buchanan's response in italics: (source) (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38560)

Well, the neoconservative cause "of female emancipation in the Muslim world" was probably set back a bit by the photo shoot of Pfc. Lynndie England and the "Girls Gone Wild" of Abu Ghraib prison.

Indeed, the filmed orgies among U.S. military police outside the cells of Iraqi prisoners, the S&M humiliation of Muslim men, the sexual torment of their women raise a question. Exactly what are the "values" the West has to teach the Islamic world?
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Whose "twin doctrines" is Krauthammer talking about? The sexual liberation he calls our doctrine belongs to a '60s revolution that devout Christians, Jews and Muslims have been resisting for years. (grrrr... jews are pure evil, there was no reason to throw that in there. Stop kissing ass Pat! They'll never forgive you anyway! -kt)
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What does Krauthammer mean by sexual liberation? The right of "tweeners" and teenage girls to dress and behave like Britney Spears? Their right to condoms in junior high? Their right to abortion without parental consent?

If conservatives reject the "equality" preached by Gloria Steinem, Betty Friedan, NARAL and the National Organization for Women, why seek to impose it on the Islamic world? Why not stand beside Islam, and against Hollywood and Hillary?
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But what universal values is he talking about? If he intends to impose the values of MTV America on the Muslim world in the name of a "world democratic revolution," he will provoke and incite a war of civilizations America cannot win because Americans do not want to fight it. This may be the neocons' war. It is not our war.

When Bush speaks of freedom as God's gift to humanity, does he mean the First Amendment freedom of Larry Flynt to produce pornography and of Salman Rushdie to publish "The Satanic Verses" – a book considered blasphemous to the Islamic faith? If the Islamic world rejects this notion of freedom, why is it our duty to change their thinking? Why are they wrong?
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A society that accepts the killing of a third of its babies as women's "emancipation," that considers homosexual marriage to be social progress, that hands out contraceptives to 13-year-old girls at junior high ought to be seeking out a confessional – better yet, an exorcist – rather than striding into a pulpit like Elmer Gantry to lecture mankind on the superiority of "American values."

[Anima Eternae]

It's not about oil. It's about Jews. Come on, this war for oil bullshit is pure hippy leftist crap. Oil was just icing on the cake. Did ya forget that Saddam was the one Arab guy in the neighborhood who didn't bow down and sell out to his Jewish masters?

It's natural resources and Israel. You can't have one without the other. The oil statement Jim made is not inaccurate. Saudi Arabia owns a sizable amount of Bush, as does Israel.



Yeah... gee what happened to that bin Laden guy anyway? I've realized for over a year that there is conclusive evidence showing Jewry had some part in 9/11, whether they actually flew the planes, hired Muslim patsies, or worked with ZOG, can be debated. But now, I'm even beginnning to sway into the camp of those who believe that THE WHOLE DAMN THING is one big joke. Like outsider said, bin laden is a real-life emmanuel goldstein. Three fuckin years and the best army in the world with top-notch equiptment can't find some stinky old caveman in a turban hiding in the mountains? Yeah, right...

He'll turn up in time for the election.



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[germanSlave]

We need to stand up for Iran.
Here is another guy fighting the JEW
It's natural resources and Israel. You can't have one without the other. The oil statement Jim made is not inaccurate. Saudi Arabia owns a sizable amount of Bush, as does Israel.





He'll turn up in time for the election.



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[J.P. Slovjanski]

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=151034&page=9&pp=10

Islam is a far older enemy of our race than Judaism.

Of course it is a different threat and will have to be fought in quite different ways

In my opinion it will (for demographic reasons) be a far more serious enemy in the near future than the aging and withering jews.

Others may quite validly diagree with this, and believe that the jews are and will always be the more serious threat:

But it must clearly be understood that, whatever the relative seriousnes of the matter, Islam is a threat to our race of and by itself, irrespective of any jewish influence.

Really it is futile to imply that one or other of these enemies could under any circumstances be an ally or be useful to us, even though they occasionally claw at each other.


How can Islam have been a threat to our race longer than Jews when Islam didn't come about till the 7th century? Islam would pose absolutely NO threat to our race had it not been for idiotic "objectivist" ideas that led whites to invite third world people into their home nations for decades- often for no other reason than monetary gain.

[prozak]

How can Islam have been a threat to our race longer than Jews when Islam didn't come about till the 7th century? Islam would pose absolutely NO threat to our race had it not been for idiotic "objectivist" ideas that led whites to invite third world people into their home nations for decades- often for no other reason than monetary gain.

Completely. Islam is at worst tangential to white interests, except when we start supporting Judaism and mainstream Christianity. Then suddenly we have made ourselves their enemies.

My sympathies are divided in that I dislike seeing American troops getting blown to shit by the insurgency, but I think the insurgency are fighting more for tradition than the Americans are, so my ideology sympathy is with them.

JIHAD

[ohgolly]

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v06/v06p125_Weber.html

[Kamangir42]

First things first, there is no recognisably united group which goes by the label Islam and which pursues a unified objective, such as domination of the West. As recent events in Iraq show, Islam is highly fractured through internal divisions. Most Muslims spend more time fighting and intriguing against each other, or collaborating with ZOG, than fighting the West (or ZOG).

Even the Wahabbi/Salafi types like Al Qaeda do not seriously want to dominate the West (or ZOG rather). If push comes to shove, they think everyone should be a Muslim but they are more worried about eradicating outside influence from Muslim lands. Witness OBL's offer of a truce with the Europeans if they were to withdraw from Muslim lands.

Most Muslims, and indeed the vast majority of those living in Europe, could not care less about Europe being Muslim or dominated by Islam. This "Islam is a threat" mantra, I suggest, is merely a propagandanda-driven chimera advanced for ulterior motives.

Who is pushing this propaganda? Well, in answer to this question might I ask: who is fighting the Jews and their ZOG lackeys more determinedly than Muslims?

So does the WN want to fight the enemy of his/her enemy and if so why? Who has greater control of "Judeo-Christian civilisation", the Jews or the Muslims? By your own accounts, the Jew is not indeed a threat to your society because he already controls your society. The Jew has won, by your own accounts, yet some of you are suggesting that your efforts should be concentrated against a miniscule group of Muslims (certainly less than 1% of the total population) retaliating against Western (read ZOG) indiscretions against their lands who have caused a small number of deaths (certainly only a fraction of the number that die by firearms or in traffic accidents each year) and who do not seriously contemplate ruling over the West (read ZOG-controlled lands).

So who is the true threat? Did Iranians ever attack the US before the US decided to stage a coup in Iran to promote their own interests? Can you blame Iran for calling the US the "Great Satan" when its "little buddy" in the region fixes scores of nuclear-tipped ballistic missiles on Tehran and its other cities? How many nuclear-tipped ballistic missiles does Iran fix on Tel Aviv let alone New York? Is Iran's strategic goal not simply to fight threats to its interests and existence in the region in which it is situated rather than to take over or dominate Europe?

And might I suggest that the only reason Muslims are a demographic threat to Europe is that European society has become so feminised and materalistic that indigenous Europeans cannot be bothered to procreate. Frankly, if you can't be bothered to beget offspring I'm not going to feel sorry for you if you die out.

@ Anima

You are no more indigenous to Europe than any Muslim ceteris paribus. You say you have lived half your life in Europe. I suggest, by your argument, you no more belong in Europe than any Muslim. You are not even Europid as many Muslims are.

In less formal language, who are you kidding?

[J.P. Slovjanski]

First things first, there is no recognisably united group which goes by the label Islam and which pursues a unified objective, such as domination of the West. As recent events in Iraq show, Islam is highly fractured through internal divisions. Most Muslims spend more time fighting and intriguing against each other, or collaborating with ZOG, than fighting the West (or ZOG).

Don't tell us, tell those idiots on Stormfront. And when you get banned like I did feel free to come back.


Even the Wahabbi/Salafi types like Al Qaeda do not seriously want to dominate the West (or ZOG rather). If push comes to shove, they think everyone should be a Muslim but they are more worried about eradicating outside influence from Muslim lands. Witness OBL's offer of a truce with the Europeans if they were to withdraw from Muslim lands.

Ironically the Muslims that DO dream of conquest are often affiliated with the very dictatorships and monarchies people like OBL despise such as the Saudi royals. The goal of whites needs to be a REAL movement with a real ideology that can become a player in world politics. Then we can explain to the DEFENSIVE jihadists such as those of Al Qaeda our position- we trade OUR land for your land. That would be the central point of the arrangement.

Right now nobody should be surprised that Muslims aren't chomping at the bit to enlist the help of White Nationalism. They don't even know we exist, and what would happen if we called out to them and they see something like Stormfront(inevitable)? "Hmm Hassan, let's see what these "White Nationalists are all about...what's this thread? 'FORGET JEWS AND CONCENTRATE ON THOSE MUSLIM BASTARDS!' This is an OUTRAGE!!!"



Most Muslims, and indeed the vast majority of those living in Europe, could not care less about Europe being Muslim or dominated by Islam. This "Islam is a threat" mantra, I suggest, is merely a propagandanda-driven chimera advanced for ulterior motives.

It would seem that our leaders want us to fight the very same Muslims who would NOT be a threat to us.




And might I suggest that the only reason Muslims are a demographic threat to Europe is that European society has become so feminised and materalistic that indigenous Europeans cannot be bothered to procreate. Frankly, if you can't be bothered to beget offspring I'm not going to feel sorry for you if you die out.

Not to mention capitalist billionaires who used their power in government(some 'democracy'?) to open the doors and bring in cheap labor.
This is a scathing indictment but it is true- our race has become immature and childlike ever since we began adopting the mentality of another certain childlike race that has been with us for quite some time. So long as we remain in this mentality "the Jew" will always be there to exploit it- he is the physical manifestation of our own failings. The typical European is concerned with the latest celebrity gossip, football matches, fashion, the latest novelty spectacle, and "clubbing" rather than his own future. Europe has been split into a vast archipelago, where every man and woman has become an island and has no feelings of connection, community, or obligation to his fellow European.

Solve this problem first and the Jewish question resolves itself.

[John in Woodbridge]

How can Islam have been a threat to our race longer than Jews when Islam didn't come about till the 7th century? Islam would pose absolutely NO threat to our race had it not been for idiotic "objectivist" ideas that led whites to invite third world people into their home nations for decades- often for no other reason than monetary gain.

I suppose the biggest threat comes from muslims that immigrate to white countries which tend to have liberal immigration laws. This was evident with the murder of Dutch director Van Gogh. But the muslims are more a problem with European countries than the US.

The US has more a problem with hispanics coming in droves but it is more simply demographics rather than radical religious ideology.

Radical Islam's biggest enemy is itself. Archaic religions tend to shunned by evolving societies. Thus, it is necessary that al-queada create enemies to fight against, such as the West (The Great Satan). Obviously the United States has done much to warrant a certain amount of hostility. Bush (and ZOG) has strengthened radical islam by the Iraq War, as it galvanized the Jihadist movement against the US.

If not for US meddling in middle east affairs, chances are Islam would become a rather bland religion, like Christianity.

[Kamangir42]

I suppose the biggest threat comes from muslims that immigrate to white countries which tend to have liberal immigration laws. This was evident with the murder of Dutch director Van Gogh. But the muslims are more a problem with European countries than the US.

The US has more a problem with hispanics coming in droves but it is more simply demographics rather than radical religious ideology.

Radical Islam's biggest enemy is itself. Archaic religions tend to shunned by evolving societies. Thus, it is necessary that al-queada create enemies to fight against, such as the West (The Great Satan). Obviously the United States has done much to warrant a certain amount of hostility. Bush (and ZOG) has strengthened radical islam by the Iraq War, as it galvanized the Jihadist movement against the US.

If not for US meddling in middle east affairs, chances are Islam would become a rather bland religion, like Christianity.

Then is it not the unwillingness to breed the true threat to Europe and America's survival as we now know it rather than Islam?

Is the solution therefore not simply to increase the indigenous birth rate rather than to fight some imaginary Islamic demon?

[John in Woodbridge]

Then is it not the unwillingness to breed the true threat to Europe and America's survival as we now know it rather than Islam?

Is the solution therefore not simply to increase the indigenous birth rate rather than to fight some imaginary Islamic demon?

The best way to increase the white birthrate would be to have healthy, separate white societies, or countries. Whites will tend to limit the number of children they have if the financial burden is high or they sense a hostile, alien environment (large percentage of non-whites). Environment tends not to affect the birthrate of the mud races, as they have neither intelligence or discipline to use birth control effectively.

[J.P. Slovjanski]

There is no excuse for Europeans' lack of concern with the family unit. Europeans must get their priorities in life straight, they need a code, a set of social standards. China has them, India has them, the Muslim world has them.

[John in Woodbridge]

There is no excuse for Europeans' lack of concern with the family unit. Europeans must get their priorities in life straight, they need a code, a set of social standards. China has them, India has them, the Muslim world has them.

As does Japan. Russia may be in the process of getting them.

[Kamangir42]

The best way to increase the white birthrate would be to have healthy, separate white societies, or countries. Whites will tend to limit the number of children they have if the financial burden is high or they sense a hostile, alien environment (large percentage of non-whites). Environment tends not to affect the birthrate of the mud races, as they have neither intelligence or discipline to use birth control effectively.

I disagree.

I really do not think there is any evidence that most Europeans and Americans feel that they live in an alien environment. Indeed most embrace "multiculturalism". And the birth rate among the indigenous population in countries like the UK is low despite the fact that the non-indigenous population constitutes barely 5% of the total population; hardly what I would call an "alien environment".

Maybe the so-called "mud races" do not want to use birth control because they like to reproduce?

The low birthrate among indigenous populations in Europe is surely a cultural phenomenon not driven by immigration. Who is shaping the cultural memes and norms in these societies? Answer that question and you have your answer as to what is the cause of the low birthrate.

[J.P. Slovjanski]

There is no excuse for Europeans' lack of concern with the family unit. Europeans must get their priorities in life straight, they need a code, a set of social standards. China has them, India has them, the Muslim world has them.


I am working on that. We need some kind of Aryan Bushido.

[John in Woodbridge]

The low birthrate among indigenous populations in Europe is surely a cultural phenomenon not driven by immigration. Who is shaping the cultural memes and norms in these societies? Answer that question and you have your answer as to what is the cause of the low birthrate.

True, my view might be a bit skewed because I live in a mudtropolis. Cultural movements, such as feminism and women in the workforce, has contributed to low white birthrate, though I think economics is a major factor.

[volkszorn]

I see "pro-western" multiculti racemixing Turks and Arabs as a much greater threat than the traditional Muslims.

[Angle]

I disagree.

I really do not think there is any evidence that most Europeans and Americans feel that they live in an alien environment. Indeed most embrace "multiculturalism". And the birth rate among the indigenous population in countries like the UK is low despite the fact that the non-indigenous population constitutes barely 5% of the total population; hardly what I would call an "alien environment".

Maybe the so-called "mud races" do not want to use birth control because they like to reproduce?

The low birthrate among indigenous populations in Europe is surely a cultural phenomenon not driven by immigration. Who is shaping the cultural memes and norms in these societies? Answer that question and you have your answer as to what is the cause of the low birthrate.


Non-whites in UK = 10% of population. Not including 500,000 illegal immigrants on the loose. People don't embrace multiculturalism. People don't even accept multiculturalism. That's why it's a crime to say it shouldn't exist. When people start to agree about something that's when change happens.

[Tronder]

I believe they're both a huge threat.

[Antiochus Epiphanes]

I am working on that. We need some kind of Aryan Bushido.

Arguably Bushido IS Aryan in its Origins. Consider that the Aryan Buddha, Siddhartha, was a kshatriya noble caste. Compare the famous work:

"Bushido Way of the Samurai" by Yamamoto,

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0757000266/104-9913493-7280749?v=glance

with, "Doctrine of Awakening" [Buddhism] by Julius Evola

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0892815531/qid=1127143685/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/104-9913493-7280749?v=glance&s=books

[T.I.]

He wears our clothes and speaks our language doesn't he?

The Arab would never assimilate into our Culture.

For at least the last 100 years blue-blood Anglos have given Arabs a raw deal. T. E. Lawrence worked tirelessly for it. Then bragged about it. Then lived briefly to regret it and was ashamed for it. The arbitrary lines that were drawn in the sand around coveted resources remain to this day. Only the dictators who they helped install have changed. The same dictators who share in the spoils of their monopolies, while turning a blind eye to abuses of their people. Those chickens are now coming home to roost. Soon to be nesting in America. Again. With the implosion of USSR the zionist/anglo-plutocracy has created a new bipolar world. Corporate America at war with all those who refuse to be under the yoke of jewish debt and anglo exploitation. How we can begin to effectively oppose this dialectic I don't know. Only another structure can oppose another structure. Aryans have no form of yet to fight with. Exactly as planned I believe. Lone wolves will only spread anarchy and impose greater jewish-"security" measures on us. EXACTLY what they would want.

rush and hannity would have us believe that Islam is a biological flaw in the Arab would that needs to be burned out of them, i.e., "wiping them out." Yet when we have dealt even-handedly with Arabs history has shown that they have peacefully co-existed among us. Not so with jews. The more affluent they have become in our Culture the more pathological, i.e., distorting and subversive. So who has the real biological flaw? Who is our real biological enemy? Who needs to have collective barbarity burned out of them? Who should Aryans be seeking to treat equitably - instead of "wiping out"? rush and hannity are whores of zion. Their lies rot the soul of our people. Will our people ever notice - or hope for better - remains to be seen.

[Subrosa]

Just more proof that Jewtree is a kike. Shame on Black for selling his soul for 30 pieces of silver!

The only reason we have problems with Arabs is because the kike opened the gates, just as they did to the Moors centuries ago. We didn't seem to have any issues with the Arabs until 1948, coincidence? The Arabs, not the Pakis, who are in league with the Great Satan, are fighting the jEWS, the ARABS ONLY! Not White men, not niggers, not pakis. For that they have my highest respect.

You can say the Arabs are filthy raghead sandniggers, but anyone that packs a vest full of HE and blasts himself to bits against the most powerful army ever to exist on the earth, or in a crowd of collaborators, is a patriot. Simple as that. Just like this raghead. Religon is a powerful thing.

[http://www.ogrish.com/archives/suicide_bombing_against_us_troops_by_al_qaedas_terrorist_member_Aug_19_2005.html

Allah Akbar patriot. Enjoy your 72 virgins. And fuck you, Johnkiketree. Perhaps one day an English patriot will send you to fucking hell where you belong with your jewish buddies.

[Antiochus Epiphanes]

He wears our clothes and speaks our language doesn't he?

The Arab would never assimilate into our Culture.
....... Who is our real biological enemy? Who needs to have collective barbarity burned out of them? Who should Aryans be seeking to treat equitably - instead of "wiping out"? rush and hannity are whores of zion. Their lies rot the soul of our people. Will our people ever notice - or hope for better - remains to be seen.

I completely agree that JEWS are the greater threat and evil, both those inside the gates in the Diaspora, and those outside, in Israel.

Arabs, are not White, but in small numbers they actually do assimilate. Take a look at the first 100 years of Lebanese Christians in America. One or two generations down the line, some of these are no more distinguishable from Whites than Armenians. Such as, Ralph Nader. So in small numbers, we could tolerate some of these no problem. SMALL numbers. Not what we have now, where there are 6 million Muslims in America, and who knows what the situation is in the UK with the Pakis or Germany with all the repulsive Turk gastarbeiters. Forgive me folks for pointing out again that while Arabs have ever been the enemy of the Jew, Turks have ever been the ally of the Jew.

I can understand how some Europeans are more uneasy about Muslims than we are here, in part, because they have survived with the Jew parasite on their backs for 2000 years, but when European lands have been overtaken by Muslims, as in the Conquest of Spain by Moors, or the occupation of Greece and the Balkans by Ottoman Turks, the Muslims have been cruel and despotic overlords and in some cases utterly messed up the local population beyond recognition. So, the position of some Europeans towards Muslims, as a greater threat than Jews, is understandable.

However I do not agree. Because, in the long run, Europeans could easily handle the immigrant problem, were it not for all the Jews and Jewish-trained leftists in Europe who run the media, academics, and civil service just as surely as they do the USA. In short, if Hitler had won the war instead of Jews, there would be no, NO Muslim/African/Paki/ Turk threat to Europe, there would be NO lack of White European children, there would be NO Israel with 200 nukes on submarines aimed at European capitals. Think about that.