DAVID ICKE EXCLUSIVELY: Croatia Will Be Swallowed by Monster of 27 Nations

[bmwbiker]

David Icke warns the Croatian army already lost its independence by joining NATO. He is coming back to Croatia due to great public interest.

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ZAGREB, CROATIA – British lecturer and author of numerous books, David Icke, will present to interested Croatians the results of his latest research on May 23 and 24. Because of enormous interest for his lectures in Croatia, which is proven by the fact that the tickets have been sold in only a couple of days, we decided to contact Icke via e-mail to tell us about his upcoming lectures. He told Javno he would speak about the influence of the European Union, Barack Obama’s secret assignment, as well as Croatia’s entry into NATO and negotiations with the European Union.

We asked Icke why he was coming to Croatia again.

- Many reasons. Firstly because I was asked again by a wonderful group of people who did such a great job last time and are dedicated to revealing the truth to the people of Croatia. Also, the response and interest in my work was so fantastic last time, and it appears to have grown since, that I was keen to come back and do the full all-day presentation after the shorter evening event last year. The interest is such that the tickets were taken for the original event so quickly that another has been arranged for the next day – Icke replied.

We also asked him what he through about Croatia entering NATO, about which he said that in joining the organisation, the Croatian army is losing its independence.

- Now that Croatia has joined NATO (NATO and the European Union basically work as one unit) the Croatian military has lost its independence and will be swallowed into the NATO command system. Already, NATO itself is saying that the Croatian military is being restructured to make it ‘interoperable with the forces of Allies’ – Icke said, adding that there is an agenda for NATO to be involved in a third world war and now that Croatia is a member of that ‘alliance’ (centrally-controlled bully-boys) they will be involved in that war, also.

- How incredible that after NATO caused such death and destruction in the former Yugoslavia to serve the long-term ends of the Hidden Hand that the Croatian government should now decide to join them – he said, adding that “one of the major reasons for the engineered break-up of the former Yugoslavia was to create smaller units of people that could be picked off one-by-one by the monster that is the European Union”.

- Think about it. Croatia has a population of less than five million people and, as things stand, has some ability to make independent decisions. But it is about to be swallowed – and that’s the word – by an insatiable 27-nation monster of some 500 million people – Icke said and added that those 500 million people have no say in European Union decisions, but only members of the European Commission do.

- The EU is one of the most corrupt organisations on earth and cannot even produce accounts because so much money is stolen and misdirected every year. This is what Croatia will face the moment the government signs them into the European spider’s web and eventually it will be 100% of the laws dictated by Brussels with the government of Croatia becoming just a subordinate non-entity to the EU bureaucracy and the planned President of Europe. According to the European media, a prime candidate to be the first president is … Tony Blair – David Icke told Javno.

We asked him also about the new U.S. president, Barack Obama, about whom he says is just another puppet controlled by the same people who stood behind George W. Bush’s decisions. Icke will describe Obama’s role in more detail at the lecture in Zagreb.

The economic crisis is like a football match, those who are in control do not care who loses

Icke, who is also an independent researcher, told Javno that Croatians will also have the opportunity to hear his theory of how the economic crisis began.

- The economic crisis was coldly engineered to create a global problem that can be used to justify the enormous centralisation of economic power based on a world central bank which I have been predicting for nearly 20 years. The situation is far worse than we are being told and the governments are emptying their guns by borrowing incredible sums of money and throwing it away at the banks and other projects. When governments have no responses left, those that control the banking cartel plan to crash the world economy still further until their ‘solutions’ are agreed – Icke said.

He compared the global crisis to a football match.

- What happens to ‘individual’ banks doesn’t matter to those who control the financial system itself. If you control a football competition, for example, it doesn’t matter to you if this or that team wins because you control the game itself and so you can’t lose – he explained.

[bmwbiker]

If someone asked me what sort of present I wanted for Christmas or my birthday, I would say for Croatia to say not to the EU, Icke said

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ZAGREB, CROATIA – After an entire day of the Eco Festival at Zagreb`s Lake Bundek, the star of the evening climbed on the dome-shaped stage, David Icke. According to the organisers, 800 people managed to find a seat underneath the tent where Icke, famous for conspiracy theories, held an extensive lecture.

Before the lecture, David thanked the organisers and praised Croatian reporters for their information.

- If someone asked me right now what sort of present I wanted for Christmas or my birthday, I would say the thing that would make me most happy was for Croatia to say not to the European Union - Icke said.

The lecture lasted four hours and the legendary narrator was rewarded by resounding applause.

Not even a shower distracted Icke

The mood could not be ruined by showers, which did ruin the video screen presentation. However, Icke was not distracted, who kept on telling about the race of reptiles which came to Earth before the New Era, their plan being complete domination of our planet.

- Those who rule on top of a pyramid control the presidents. Their plan is to divide the planet into four parts – the European Union, the American, Atlantic and African Union – Icke explained, pointing out that American President Bush, British Prime Minister Brown and many others were just puppets being controlled by those behind the scenes.

Apart from describing the actions of the Illuminati in great detail and the affect of the media and religion on the masses, he got special attention asking the question: “Who are we?”.

Icke: It is time to wake up

- We are programmed to see only what is on our frequency. We are all one, we have universal knowledge that we only have to remember. In a way, we are hypnotised and cannot see what is obvious – said Icke, explaining it was much like not noticing an elephant in the living room.

In the end, he told the gathered crown that it was time “we all woke up and resisted those who rule because they are the minority”.

Everyone sees David Icke up there somewhere, but understand, we are one and we have universal knowledge, we just need to remember – David Icke finished his lecture.

[bmwbiker]

Icke discovered that the offspring of a hybrid race of reptiles, whose aim is world dominance, are all over the world, even in Croatia.

David Icke, former sports journalist and famous for conspiracy theories, arrived in Zagreb on Tuesday.

He said that he was surprised that so many people in Croatia are familiar with his work and he joked that he has not stopped talking for the last two days.

Because seven years has passed since the WTC attacks, we concentrated on Al-Qaeda, the infamous organization that has been blamed for the terrorist attacks.

Brzezinski admitted founding Al-Qaeda

Icke claims that Al-Qaeda was formed by the USA, and the creator is the man who stands behind the campaign of the Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama. Icke claims that Zbigniew Brzezinski, one of president Carter’s former advisors, admitted that the Americans founded and trained Al-Qaeda. After the organization was sent to Afghanistan, their next destinations would be the United States and Great Britain.

According to his claims, the same man is involved in the rebellion in South Ossetia, which resulted in the recent start of the bloody battle between Georgia and Russia.

All around us is like a hologram

The world around us is some sort of illusion, like a hologram, says Icke. He explains that all of this that we see is only a part of what around us. Our bodies are “programmed” to notice things that are at a certain frequency, and we are not able to see everything else.

He compared those people who wish to rule world politics, economics and media with spiders that capture us in their webs.

The United States and the European Union are such spiders, and warns that Croatia could soon fall into a web that is hard to get out of.

“America controls Saudi Arabia, as well as Georgia” claims Icke. This is how he explains the expansion and control of that powerful spider.

Offspring of the hybrid race of reptiles are in Croatia

Icke is best known to the public for his hybrid race of reptiles that rule the world, who are tied by their blood lines. According to his claims, amongst them are Bush and the British royal family, as well as many that rule behind the scenes. As he says, offspring of that race have the look of reptiles, and many of them are not even aware of it.

He said that there are descendants of the race of reptiles all over the world, even in Croatia. Of course not all of the people, there are a lot less of them, and does not mean that they are in some high position like a president or premier, said Icke for Javno. He stressed that there are around 4 percent of reptiles on this planet, but that they have managed to rule.

He stressed that he does not know why four and a half million Croatians accept what the Cabinet promotes, even though most people disagree with it.

Icke said that one man told him that he disagrees with Croatia entering the European Union, but that he is not complaining because that is what the Cabinet wants, who do whatever they want anyway.

[bmwbiker]

Former sports reporter David Icke, famous for his conspiracy theories, has landed at Zagreb Airport on Tuesday at 11. Relaxed and friendly, he was glad to talk to us. As Americans are marking the seventh anniversary of the terrorist attack on September 11, we wondered what he thought of the latest conclusion by scientists that the seventh tower collapsed in only a few seconds because of the fire in the neighbouring skyscrapers.

- I`d been researching the global conspiracy for a long, long time before 9/11 happened and I`ve come across a very clear technique of mass manipulation called “Problem, reaction, solution”. So what you do is you create a problem, you blame someone else for it, you tell the public the version of the problem you want and then you want the public in fear, outrage, you want them to say: “Do something”. And then you offer the solutions to the problems you`ve created. The official story of 9/11 is a fairy tale… It was a controlled demolition of those buildings – Icke told Javno.
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David Icke looked back on the current situation in Croatia, warning it to stay clear of the European Union.

- For Goodness sake, stay out of the European Union –

First laughed at him, then started believing him

The legendary researcher and reporter has published 20 books so far, which were regularly taken off bookshelves and despite this, they became bestsellers.

His work “The Biggest Secret” is considered the courageous writing of today, in which Icke claims that a hybrid race of men was created a long time ago, linked with the aliens. These hybrids, according to his theories, rule world politics, economy, media and organised crime. They include US President George W. Bush and the British Royal family.

Whatever the case may be, Icke was laughed at by many, while others supported him. Ten years ago, he said the rulers would install chips into their people and his testimonies are slowly starting to come true.

[JMorris]

If someone asked me what sort of present I wanted for Christmas or my birthday, I would say for Croatia to say not to the EU, Icke said



If that's all he says it's one great message :D

That's why I voted YES.

[bmwbiker]

If that's all he says it's one great message :D

That's why I voted YES.


Icke is not bad player...i waiting to he adress that reptile race in Jews....that will be finale of his game

[Serbian]

[QUOTE]How incredible that after NATO caused such death and destruction in the former Yugoslavia to serve the long-term ends of the Hidden Hand that the Croatian government should now decide to join them – he said,

NATO caused death and destruction on Serb populated territory not croatian.
The current croatian state owes its very existence to NATO so I dont see what the problem is.



adding that “one of the major reasons for the engineered break-up of the former Yugoslavia was to create smaller units of people that could be picked off one-by-one by the monster that is the European Union”.


Oooh I love this :D Such a comment will no doubt make him extremely popular among his hosts in Zagreb. Of course it's completely true however I wouldn't want to be in his shoes if he repeats it while in croatia.

[psychologicalshock]

Oooh I love this :D Such a comment will no doubt make him extremely popular among his hosts in Zagreb. Of course it's completely true however I wouldn't want to be in his shoes if he repeats it while in croatia.

It would be risky but if he had a helicopter ready he could leave and let the chimp out proceed on its own.

[bmwbiker]

NATO caused death and destruction on Serb populated territory not croatian.
The current croatian state owes its very existence to NATO so I dont see what the problem is.
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And who is prohibited weapons import in Croatia????

We was in situation that we must illegally buy and import weapons in Croatia until Serbs was having BIG fucken armada of weapons...Yugoslav National Army was 3. weapon force in EU!!! and all that weapons was in Serbian hands.....and Croats was beaten with that weapons...i remember that days when we haven't got any weapons except hunting rifles...but we manage to stud up and defend our selfs..
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Oooh I love this :D Such a comment will no doubt make him extremely popular among his hosts in Zagreb. Of course it's completely true however I wouldn't want to be in his shoes if he repeats it while in croatia.

He will change that story soon or a latter if he want ours money for lectures.

[Serbian]

[QUOTE]And who is prohibited weapons import in Croatia????

We was in situation that we must illegally buy and import weapons in Croatia until Serbs was having BIG fucken armada of weapons...Yugoslav National Army was 3. weapon force in EU!!! and all that weapons was in Serbian hands.....and Croats was beaten with that weapons...i remember that days when we haven't got any weapons except hunting rifles...but we manage to stud up and defend our selfs..

Oh please :o

The so called 'weapons embargo' for the former Yugoslavia wasn't worth the paper it was written on, it was a complete and utter farce.Weapons were flowing into Croatia and Bosnia from the US and her allies and even muslim countries.

As for the Yugoslav Army being in Serb hands I can only say I wished. If the JNA was Serbian why did it completely withdraw from Krajina, Bosnia and Herzegovina and leave the local Serb population to fend for themselves? Why not stay and fight with the Krajina and Bosnian Serbs? Why did it stand by while the regular croatian Army was entering another state Bosnia and killing Bosnian Serbs?


He will change that story soon or a latter if he want ours money for lectures

That wouldn't be good for his credibility now would it?.:)

[bmwbiker]

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The so called 'weapons embargo' for the former Yugoslavia wasn't worth the paper it was written on, it was a complete and utter farce.Weapons were flowing into Croatia and Bosnia from the US and her allies and even muslim countries. )
Flowing???
We wasn't seen good rifle for 2 years...can you explain how then Croats was buying weapons from Serbs??? mostly weapons was bayed from Serbian "businessman" in Bosnia.
Small amounts was smuggled in country..how many rifles and guns can be smuggled by cars?

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As for the Yugoslav Army being in Serb hands I can only say I wished. If the JNA was Serbian why did it completely withdraw from Krajina, Bosnia and Herzegovina and leave the local Serb population to fend for themselves? Why not stay and fight with the Krajina and Bosnian Serbs? Why did it stand by while the regular croatian Army was entering another state Bosnia and killing Bosnian Serbs?
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I don't remember that tanks and soldiers of JNA was widrawn...as I remember they just change signs on uniforms (they are Serbs of course) and grow more longer beards.
It was slow and easy process in one year same people with different signs....as we say: aren't shit, it just dog make pu-pu

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That wouldn't be good for his credibility now would it?.:)


but it would be good for his bank account..sometimes man need to adopt on new circumstances, he would describe that: new evidence pop in

[Serbian]

[QUOTE]Flowing???
We wasn't seen good rifle for 2 years...can you explain how then Croats was buying weapons from Serbs??? mostly weapons was bayed from Serbian "businessman" in Bosnia.
Small amounts was smuggled in country..how many rifles and guns can be smuggled by cars?

NATO was bringing in the weapons with heavy air lifts {just like they were for the muslims using Tuzla airport}, weapons were being sent in through Hungary, Split port and let us not forget all the heavy weapons and armour you got from the Yugoslav Army barracks which were handed over to you without a single shot being fired, like for example the Varazdin Kasarna. Croatia was armed to the teeth and ready for war, which could also clearly be seen from the fact that you initiated hostilities and broke the peace not the JNA



I don't remember that tanks and soldiers of JNA was widrawn...as I remember they just change signs on uniforms (they are Serbs of course) and grow more longer beards.
It was slow and easy process in one year same people with different signs....as we say: aren't shit, it just dog make pu-pu


You are wrong, the JNA completely withdrew from the territories of Bosnia and croatia as this was required in the ultimatum that NATO had sent to Belgrade. Of course there were local Bosnian/Krajina Serbs who were members of the federal army and naturally they stayed behind and formed the BSA{Bosnian Serb Army} and SVK in order to defend their homes and land.




but it would be good for his bank account..sometimes man need to adopt on new circumstances, he would describe that: new evidence pop in

LOL... 'new evidence pop in'.:) Yes, it would also be good for his 'health' while in croatia.:D

[BryanVP]

Until Icke names these demonic creatures he speaks of as the jew, I'll not be able to take him that seriously. The heart of the jew is just as hideous if not more so than what he describes.

[bmwbiker]

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NATO was bringing in the weapons with heavy air lifts {just like they were for the Muslims using Tuzla airport}, weapons were being sent in through Hungary, Split port and let us not forget all the heavy weapons and armour you got from the Yugoslav Army barracks which were handed over to you without a single shot being fired, like for example the Varazdin Kasarna. Croatia was armed to the teeth and ready for war, which could also clearly be seen from the fact that you initiated hostilities and broke the peace not the JNA


Do you understand what nonsense you tell here???

Croatia was under weapons embargo...we was in situation of "cat in the bag"
I know that you are brainwashed with YUTELT.J.B....that what you seen on Serbian TV how angry Croats kill serbian babies (remember that reportage hoe Croats slaughter 40 newborn babies in Vukovar..that was Sci-fi lie)..all news what you seen on yours TV was made to recruit more Serbs to attack Croatia.
If Croats attack Serbia..why then all warfare was on Croatian land?..it should be on Serbian land..aren it?
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You are wrong, the JNA completely withdrew from the territories of Bosnia and croatia as this was required in the ultimatum that NATO had sent to Belgrade. Of course there were local Bosnian/Krajina Serbs who were members of the federal army and naturally they stayed behind and formed the BSA{Bosnian Serb Army} and SVK in order to defend their homes and land.


What fucking ultimatum in year 1991?....NATO wasn't intervene until 1995..in that time NATO was shitting about civil war in Yugoslavia....
Serbia was fucked up because Montenegro is started to pull out war...you lost valuable allies
In 1991. in Croatia was only CIA, MI&, Mossad,KGB spys...becouse WORLD AREN'T KNOW WHO IS CROATS OR SERBS, AND WHAT MUSLIMS DO THERE.... they think ed just that is some civil war between some communist fractions


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LOL... 'new evidence pop in'.:) Yes, it would also be good for his 'health' while in croatia.:D

When we was kicked some ours guests last time?

Guests are protected by ethnically code here...

[Serbian]

bmwbiker


Do you understand what nonsense you tell here???

Croatia was under weapons embargo...we was in situation of "cat in the bag"
I know that you are brainwashed with YUTELT.J.B....that what you seen on Serbian TV how angry Croats kill serbian babies (remember that reportage hoe Croats slaughter 40 newborn babies in Vukovar..that was Sci-fi lie)..all news what you seen on yours TV was made to recruit more Serbs to attack Croatia.
If Croats attack Serbia..why then all warfare was on Croatian land?..it should be on Serbian land..aren it?

What you had in croatia was a CIVIL WAR between two constitutive nations which had nothing to do with Belgrade, hell Belgrade wanted to get rid of the Krajina Serb problem for it was causing Milosevic too many headaches.

All of the warfare was on land inhabited by Serbs. The Krajina area was basically raised to the ground by the croatian army as well as many parts of the Bosnian Serb republic.

But tell me why should these AVNOJ borders created by communist Tito at the end of ww2 be held up as sacred and not negotiable or subject to change once Yugoslavia broke up? The borders of the republics in Yugoslavia never took into account history and ethnicity of the population in the areas that were given to croatia.

Oh and some croat shells did land on territory of republic of Serbia, around Sid and Backa Palanka and Serbia did not respond to these provocations.

What fucking ultimatum in year 1991?....NATO wasn't intervene until 1995..in that time NATO was shitting about civil war in Yugoslavia....
Serbia was fucked up because Montenegro is started to pull out war...you lost valuable allies
In 1991. in Croatia was only CIA, MI&, Mossad,KGB spys...becouse WORLD AREN'T KNOW WHO IS CROATS OR SERBS, AND WHAT MUSLIMS DO THERE.... they think ed just that is some civil war between some communist fractions

The west put pressure on Belgrade that made it very clear in no uncertain terms that the Yugoslav army had to completely withdraw from Croatia and Bosnia. Had this not happened there would have been air strikes even earlier than 1994.
The wests plan all along was Yugoslav Army out- Foreign mercenaries, mudjahadeens and western troops {peace keepers} in.


When we was kicked some ours guests last time?

Guests are protected by ethnically code here...

You give Besa?

Im not familiar with croatian 'hospitality'.:D

[elbwgreez]

Icke is a successful snakeoil salesman.

[bmwbiker]

bmwbiker


What you had in croatia was a CIVIL WAR between two constitutive nations which had nothing to do with Belgrade, hell Belgrade wanted to get rid of the Krajina Serb problem for it was causing Milosevic too many headaches.

All of the warfare was on land inhabited by Serbs. The Krajina area was basically raised to the ground by the Croatian army as well as many parts of the Bosnian Serb republic.


and how that half Serbs come in Krajina and when?....they escape from Turks and Croats give them land to survive and we defended them from Turks...that was only 200 years ago...but most of that Serbs was colonized by Tito after 2WW..that is reason why they are fleeing in operation "storm"



bmwbiker

But tell me why should these AVNOJ borders created by communist Tito at the end of ww2 be held up as sacred and not negotiable or subject to change once Yugoslavia broke up? The borders of the republics in Yugoslavia never took into account history and ethnicity of the population in the areas that were given to croatia.

Oh and some croat shells did land on territory of republic of Serbia, around Sid and Backa Palanka and Serbia did not respond to these provocations.

.:D
which one borders will be batter: those historical of Great Croatia or latest Great Serbia...
Tudman and Milosevic was dealing how to split Bosnia and gain peace..but EU, US wont to hear about it...that was only thing in which we agreed: splitting the Bosnia

Yes we bobed you with boilers filled with nails and TNT...that bombs was thrown from field airplanes
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how many casulties?....one frightned granny

bmwbiker

The west put pressure on Belgrade that made it very clear in no uncertain terms that the Yugoslav army had to completely withdraw from Croatia and Bosnia. Had this not happened there would have been air strikes even earlier than 1994.
The wests plan all along was Yugoslav Army out- Foreign mercenaries, mudjahadeens and western troops {peace keepers} in.

I'm not fully familiar about that..bit i know that was been one year of low fighting in 1993-1994..becouse Serbs was busy in Bosnia killing Muslims and partying in Srebrenica...that was good for ours that we wasn't attacking from back..in that time we was enough powerfully to make operation "storm" but i was postponed because that Bosnia party

bmwbiker

You give Besa?

I'm not familiar with croatian 'hospitality'.:D

Off course that you not familiar with ours hospitality...you were busy to count and sell pillaged TV, wash machines,friezes, cars, tractors...all "imported by force" from Croatia....you are for Croatia war-criminals...not killers(because you are not) but ordinary criminals

[Serbian]

bmwbiker
and how that half Serbs come in Krajina and when?....they escape from Turks and Croats give them land to survive and we defended them from Turks...that was only 200 years ago...but most of that Serbs was colonized by Tito after 2WW..that is reason why they are fleeing in operation "storm"


Are you serious? 200 years :)

Why dont you analyze medieval documents which mention Serbs in the area and only Serbs. The Frankish Chronicles, or Einhard’s Memorials are from the beginning of the 9th century.

In this document there is a mention of territories which stretch from the Adriatic coastline to Drava River (just south of present-day Hungary), but no where can one find people who bear the Croatian name. There is not anything about a Croatian state either. The lands that are mentioned are Dalmatia and Slavonia; when it comes to their inhabitants, Serbs, Gudušćans, Timočans, other Slavic tribes as well as Avars are mentioned. Dalmatia, the document states, is exclusively populated by Serbs.


which one borders will be batter: those historical of Great Croatia or latest Great Serbia...
Tudman and Milosevic was dealing how to split Bosnia and gain peace..but EU, US wont to hear about it...that was only thing in which we agreed: splitting the Bosnia


I agree but it must be noted that the majority of croats were for the Blaz Kraljevic option and joined HOS who were fighting for a centralized Bosnia under muslim Izmetbegovic.


Yes we bobed you with boilers filled with nails and TNT...that bombs was thrown from field airplanes
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/835/bombeenergawy0.jpg
how many casulties?....one frightned granny



Well a total no fly zone was imposed by the west as early as 1991/2 on Serbs so the field was level. You cant complain.:D


I'm not fully familiar about that..bit i know that was been one year of low fighting in 1993-1994..becouse Serbs was busy in Bosnia killing Muslims and partying in Srebrenica...that was good for ours that we wasn't attacking from back..in that time we was enough powerfully to make operation "storm" but i was postponed because that Bosnia party

We were not 'killing muslims', this is ridiculous ZOG media propaganda. And how was Bosnia a party when the majority of CIVILIANS killed were Serbian?


Off course that you not familiar with ours hospitality...you were busy to count and sell pillaged TV, wash machines,friezes, cars, tractors...all "imported by force" from Croatia....you are for Croatia war-criminals...not killers(because you are not) but ordinary criminals

I am not a war criminal nor do I know any Serbs who are. Fighting for your nation against soldiers is not a war crime. No one that I know ever intentionally harmed a civilian during the conflict as there were harsh consequences for such actions.

[bmwbiker]

bmwbiker



Are you serious? 200 years :)

Why dont you analyze medieval documents which mention Serbs in the area and only Serbs. The Frankish Chronicles, or Einhard’s Memorials are from the beginning of the 9th century.

In this document there is a mention of territories which stretch from the Adriatic coastline to Drava River (just south of present-day Hungary), but no where can one find people who bear the Croatian name. There is not anything about a Croatian state either. The lands that are mentioned are Dalmatia and Slavonia; when it comes to their inhabitants, Serbs, Gudušćans, Timočans, other Slavic tribes as well as Avars are mentioned. Dalmatia, the document states, is exclusively populated by Serbs.
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In that text people who lived in Albanian and Kosovo mountains was called Serbs...and we have different word for that people: Vlach..you know that well, as you know that serbs was outcasts from Croats and Bulgarians (that was two ONLY tribes on that territory).
That text is telling how serbs was native tribe like Illirians...Illirians was assimilated with Croats, but serbs never assimilate with Bulgars, so Bulgars was destroy that tribe and last 500 serbs was protected by Croatian king Tomislav, Tomislav reconquered Kosovo and settle serbs there.....that means SERBS WASN'T EVER BEEN SLAVIC TRIBE ..they are something "special"..today genealogy proves that

bmwbiker

I agree but it must be noted that the majority of croats were for the Blaz Kraljevic option and joined HOS who were fighting for a centralized Bosnia under muslim Izmetbegovic.
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That was Ustascha syndrome: try to domesticate animals....we Croats always have soft hart...
bmwbiker


We were not 'killing muslims', this is ridiculous ZOG media propaganda. And how was Bosnia a party when the majority of CIVILIANS killed were Serbian?
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Ther was many killings on serbian and muslim side

bmwbiker


I am not a war criminal nor do I know any Serbs who are. Fighting for your nation against soldiers is not a war crime. No one that I know ever intentionally harmed a civilian during the conflict as there were harsh consequences for such actions.

Me too, i never met Croatian war criminal:D

You are too joung to be war criminal....

Can you explain "incident" in Ovcara after fall of glorius city Vukovar, when serbs killed 250 wounded Croatian soliders?

[Martin James]

Don't waste people's time with David Icke. You better get back aboard The USS Croatia before the lizard creatures attack.

YouTube - USS CROATIA SKEĆ 2 - SFERAKON 2003

[bmwbiker]

Icke compared the European Union with the Habsburg family rule and cannot see why the Croat cabinet wants EU entry.
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- It is not important whether Croatia has a left wing or a right wing government, politics head in the same direction in the end – David Icke said anent his 7-hour lectures on Saturday and Sunday in Zagreb, where he will present new findings of his research.

Icke compared the European Union with the Habsburg family rule, adding that the fact the Croatian government is fighting for accession in the slave-ownership hands of the EU would be funny if it were not tragic.

According to Icke, the elite is afraid of protests and rebellion, but its biggest nightmare would be if people became aware of what was going on and started collaborating. Because, several of them control the entire system and it is up to the others to decide and stop following their orders.
- Forget about culture when you enter the EU. People think they will be able to travel and live in London, for example, but they have to be aware that foreigners will inhabit Croatia too, which means that the culture will gradually disappear – Icke told Croats.

Economic crisis is a form of manipulation

The famous British researcher, dubbed as conspiracy theorist by many, because of some of his radical ideas, also looked back on the economic crisis, which has started in the USA and expanded all across the world.

He warns that the whole economic collapse was orchestrated at secret meetings of the world`s elite and everything boils down to three steps: firstly, a problem is created, then a reaction follows, accompanied by a solution (problem, reaction, solution).

- First, the collapse of the economy is created, then the governments reacted. Money disappeared after than, billions disappeared and nobody knew where. The governments don`t have an answer. Then the solution comes. People who are desperate agree with something they would normally resist. The economic crisis is just one form of manipulation – Icke said.

- Waiting for the next match to end is not an option – Icke said, pointing out that the world elite is trying to establish a fascist order, to create a central world power and an unique world military which would fight against those who rebel.

Reporters asked Icke whether he has ever received threats and if he was afraid because of his views and criticism directed at world leaders like Barack Obama or Gordon Brown. He replied that he was not afraid and that he does not wish to think about the matter.

Icke is not threatened, but mocked in order to diminish his importance

Forget about culture when you enter the EU. People think they will be able to travel and live in London, for example, but they have to be aware that foreigners will inhabit Croatia too, which means that the culture will gradually disappear.

David Icke
- I have not received threats. Their way is to mock me – Icke said.

According to him, the elite is afraid of protests and rebellion, but its biggest nightmare would be if people became aware of what was going on and started collaborating. Because, several of them control the entire system and it is up to the others to decide and stop following their orders.

When asked about his take on Obama, Icke responded that he arrived as a solution, after Bush caused wars and the crisis and the people reacted.

- There is a problem, reaction, solution here again – Icke said.

- Obama is a different mask with the same face under it. His campaign boiled down to withdrawing the troops from Iraq and by the end of year, they will have been three times more troops in Afghanistan than during Bush`s term –

[JMorris]

Icke is not bad player...i waiting to he adress that reptile race in Jews....that will be finale of his game

If he has any sense of self preservation he will cautiously avoid speaking about the 'chosen people'. Otherwise he will find foreign politicians will suddenly stop allowing him to enter their countries and he will be branded a right-wing extremist or worst still Revisionist.

[bmwbiker]

If he has any sense of self preservation he will cautiously avoid speaking about the 'chosen people'. Otherwise he will find foreign politicians will suddenly stop allowing him to enter their countries and he will be branded a right-wing extremist or worst still Revisionist.

I think that is his "game"..he speaks about Jews, but he is so carefully to title them, he using "reptilian nation"..."could blood" ... "aggressive "..."impulsive"....game is still on beginning, it wasn't first half jet, so he plays closed and carefull...second half will be more opened...

We waiting to ZOG score one goal to him..that he would open game and attack.

As for now we understand that Icke is traveling and collecting supporters also checking political situation in nations like some MI6 agent ...

[JMorris]

I think that is his "game"..he speaks about Jews, but he is so carefully to title them, he using "reptilian nation"..."could blood" ... "aggressive "..."impulsive"....game is still on beginning, it wasn't first half jet, so he plays closed and carefull...second half will be more opened...

We waiting to ZOG score one goal to him..that he would open game and attack.

As for now we understand that Icke is traveling and collecting supporters also checking political situation in nations like some MI6 agent ...

He has been around for quite a long while. I initially read up a good bit about his lectures some years ago when I first got connected up to the net. For the last 5 years or so I have not followed his 'antics'. In England and America he is taken as a bit ‘nutty’. Possibly that helps him to get away with what he says and writes.

[bmwbiker]

He has been around for quite a long while. I initially read up a good bit about his lectures some years ago when I first got connected up to the net. For the last 5 years or so I have not followed his 'antics'. In England and America he is taken as a bit ‘nutty’. Possibly that helps him to get away with what he says and writes.


Yes play on "nutty" way is give him some peace....His ideas are almost same like WN, only packed in different package.

He may help WN to spread idea and doctrine.

[bmwbiker]

Instead of the announced seven hours, the lecture lasted nearly nine hours. Icke spoke of secret societies, the meaning of life...

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I will speak for as long as you are willing to listen, David Icke said at the start of Saturday`s lecture in Zagreb which lasted nearly nine hours, instead of the announced seven.
Over 1,000 Icke enthusiasts and those who are curious gathered at the Students` Centre hall, while the lecturer backed up his address with over 1,000 illustrations.

EVERYTHING IS UPSIDE DOWN
Everything is upside down! The doctors are destroying health, the lawyers are destroying justice, professors are destroying knowledge, the media are destroying information and the truth, while religion is destroying spirituality, Icke said. He explained that they create a virtual reality with subliminal messages and impose limitations and fear in order to manipulate.
Icke tried to elaborate his controversial claims of royal bloodlines which rule the world and he spoke of Barack Obama, who took over the reins of the USA in January this year.

According to him, Obama is no better than Bush and he refers to Obama`s desire to wage war, send additional troops to Afghanistan and he reminds of statements which do not differ from Bush`s. Icke compared Obama`s rule to Hitler`s and to prove this, he quoted Hitler.

During his campaign, Obama promised change and it turned out that he has no intention of keeping his promises. Icke called him Mr. Fake and commented that after Bush, Obama did not have a tough time attaining the presidential post.

- Bush was the cause of the problem and Obama appeared as the solution – Icke said.

There is no time, we are surrounded by a virtual world

The British author and independent researcher tried to answer questions about the meaning of life. He said that there is no time, at least not like people see it.

Icke told us to live here and now, that we should not burden ourselves with what happened or what is going to happen.

- Everything is upside down! The doctors are destroying health, the lawyers are destroying justice, professors are destroying knowledge, the media are destroying information and the truth, while religion is destroying spirituality, Icke said. He explained that they create a virtual reality with subliminal messages and impose limitations and fear in order to manipulate.

- The sole goal of those who are at the top of the pyramid is to control. The goal of the secret agenda is to create a globalised world country, to create a world army and a global dictatorship . Icke said.

The lecturer also spoke of secret societies and their role, backing up his claims with symbolic illustrations. He quoted famous philosophers, writers and politicians like William Blake, Voltaire, Oscar Wilde, Sigmund Freud, Albert Einstein, Martin Luther King, John Lennon, Mark Twain, Carl Jun, Mahatma Ghandi to prove that they had thoughts similar to his.

Icke again warned of the danger behind the European Union, wondering why the Croatian government is so vigorous in joining this slave-ownership organisation, which is controlled by those at the top of the pyramid.

In the end, the audience rewarded David Icke with ovations. The author told them the most important thing was to “wake up” and free your mind.

So far, Icke has held only several day-long lectures in the world and because of great interest, he will repeat his lecture in its entirety on Sunday, organised by the Zagreb!Ekofestival.

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[April F.]

“Wake up” and free your mind!

That's a great message for one's whole life.

[bmwbiker]

That's a great message for one's whole life.

Icke compared Obama`s rule to Hitler`s and to prove this, he quoted Hitler!!!!!

That is qalyty of his lectures: he quote Hitler and Jews must listen that...:D