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Victor Wolzek
December 25th, 2003, 06:12 AM
ONE SHEAF, ONE VINE
RACIALLY CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS TALK ABOUT RACE

[Note: Our own Alex Linder is featured in this book. - vw]

This book is made up of the personal statements about race from seventeen white Americans. What they share is that, for them, the fact that they are white is more than an incidental, insignificant, or peripheral aspect of their being; it is central to how they view themselves and conduct their lives.

The men and women you will meet in this book aren’t public figures or leaders of organizations. They are everyday people: a postal worker from Philadelphia, a college student from Texas, an attorney from New York City, a bookstore owner from Washington State, an appliance repairman from Connecticut, a teacher from Chicago, and so on.

We have a very negative image of racially conscious and committed whites gained largely from the media: neo-Nazi bigots, menacing skinheads, thugs who commit hate crimes. We are informed about people of this sort, but we don’t hear from them.

They aren’t on television news shows speaking for themselves. They don’t make movies or publish books. Politicians don’t articulate their perspective or advocate their positions. Journalists and intellectuals don’t write about them unless it is to belittle them. Schools make no attempt to deal with them objectively.

In this book, you’ll hear from them. The words in this book are the speakers’ as they spoke them; they haven’t been altered, softened, or censored. And more than come to know their thoughts on race, you’ll meet these people as human beings. Some of them you won’t soon forget.

Democracy depends on the free exchange of ideas. You make the call whether what these Americans have to say is to any extent valid. You decide whether what they say has any implications for what you believe and the way you believe.

Robert S. Griffin:


Robert S. Griffin, Ph. D, is the author of The Fame of a Dead Man’s Deeds: An Up-Close Portrait of White Nationalist William Pierce. He lives in Vermont.

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One Sheaf, One Vine : Racially Conscious White Americans Talk About Race

This book is made up of personal statements about race from seventeen racially conscious white Americans. By racially conscious I mean that, for them, the fact that they are white--other terms, European American, Euro--is more than an incidental, insignificant, or peripheral aspect of their being. Their racial identity is central to how they view themselves and conduct their lives. The people you will meet come from virtually every part of the country. None of them knew any of the others when this project began (I introduced several to one or two of the others after I had gathered the material for the book).

What you will read is drawn from an audiotape-recorded conversation I had with each of these individuals separately (in one case it was a couple). Conversation is a more accurate term than interview for what went on between them and me. I didn’t have an interview protocol that I used with everyone. There was nothing so formal as that. Instead, I was guided by a list of topics and themes I wanted to explore with each person. I edited myself out of the transcription of each tape so that it was just a statement, or personal account, from the person I talked with. I gave each statement a title and wrote a brief preface to introduce the speaker. After transcribing nine of the tapes myself, I suddenly lost virtually all my hearing and could no longer hear the voices on the tapes. I am appreciative of Katrina Gibson’s excellent work transcribing the last seven tapes, as well as for her editorial assistance.

The words in this book are the speakers’. I did some editing for length and to avoid repetition and maintain continuity, but I was careful not to alter, soften, or censor anything someone said. As much as possible, I want you to experience these individuals as I did, and reading back over the statements, I think you will.

This book grows out of another book I authored, The Fame of a Dead Man’s Deeds: An Up-Close Portrait of White Nationalist William Pierce, which was published in 2000. William Pierce, who died in July of 2002, was a prominent figure in the white nationalist (another term, white racialist) movement. He was the founder and chairman of the National Alliance, which has around two thousand members and is headquartered on Pierce’s 340-acre property in rural West Virginia. Pierce is best known as the author of the widely read--a half million readers--underground novel, The Turner Diaries, which describes the racially motivated terrorist acts of a band of white American revolutionaries against a corrupt federal government and its supporters.

In the process of researching the Pierce book in the late 1990s, I met a number of white racialists, some followers of Pierce and some not. After the book was published, other racially aware whites contacted me, and I met still others at various meetings and through the Internet. What has struck me about the three hundred or more people I have encountered over the past five years, and I include the leaders of the movement in this characterization, is how invisible and silent they are in the public arena. To be sure, we have a generalized image of people of this sort and what they believe: ignorant, violence-prone KKK members, menacing skinheads, and low-life or deranged thugs doing their “perp walks” after committing a heinous hate crime against minorities. The vast majority of the white nationalists I have met do not fit these stereotypes, but how would average Americans know that? These people aren’t on the television news shows speaking for themselves. They don’t make movies. They don’t publish books and articles. Politicians don’t articulate their perspective and advocate their positions. Journalists and intellectuals don’t write about them unless it is to belittle them. They aren’t on university and college faculties, and schools make no attempt to consider them objectively.

What has also struck me about the people I have met is that, at least in my view, they have something to say that would contribute to the public dialogue and debate. I believe this society and culture would benefit from hearing what they think about race. Which is not to say that I consider them to be right about everything. I do offer, however, that, in the main, white racialists are serious and thoughtful and sincere, and they are trying to live just and honorable lives. If you find this to be true of the people in this book, know that they aren’t exceptional. They are typical.

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White Flag
December 25th, 2003, 07:18 AM
[QUOTE=Victor Wolzek]ONE SHEAF, ONE VINE
RACIALLY CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS TALK ABOUT RACE

[Note: Our own Alex Linder is featured in this book. - vw]

This book is made up of the personal statements about race from seventeen white Americans. What they share is that, for them, the fact that they are white is more than an incidental, insignificant, or peripheral aspect of their being; it is central to how they view themselves and conduct their lives.

The men and women you will meet in this book aren’t public figures or leaders of organizations. They are everyday people: a postal worker from Philadelphia, a college student from Texas, an attorney from New York City, a bookstore owner from Washington State, an appliance repairman from Connecticut, a teacher from Chicago, and so on.

We have a very negative image of racially conscious and committed whites gained largely from the media: neo-Nazi bigots, menacing skinheads, thugs who commit hate crimes. We are informed about people of this sort, but we don’t hear from them.

They aren’t on television news shows speaking for themselves. They don’t make movies or publish books. Politicians don’t articulate their perspective or advocate their positions. Journalists and intellectuals don’t write about them unless it is to belittle them. Schools make no attempt to deal with them objectively.

In this book, you’ll hear from them. The words in this book are the speakers’ as they spoke them; they haven’t been altered, softened, or censored. And more than come to know their thoughts on race, you’ll meet these people as human beings. Some of them you won’t soon forget.

Democracy depends on the free exchange of ideas. You make the call whether what these Americans have to say is to any extent valid. You decide whether what they say has any implications for what you believe and the way you believe.

Robert S. Griffin:


Robert S. Griffin, Ph. D, is the author of The Fame of a Dead Man’s Deeds: An Up-Close Portrait of White Nationalist William Pierce. He lives in Vermont.

Free Preview:
One Sheaf, One Vine : Racially Conscious White Americans Talk About Race

This book is made up of personal statements about race from seventeen racially conscious white Americans. By racially conscious I mean that, for them, the fact that they are white--other terms, European American, Euro--is more than an incidental, insignificant, or peripheral aspect of their being. Their racial identity is central to how they view themselves and conduct their lives. The people you will meet come from virtually every part of the country. None of them knew any of the others when this project began (I introduced several to one or two of the others after I had gathered the material for the book).

What you will read is drawn from an audiotape-recorded conversation I had with each of these individuals separately (in one case it was a couple). Conversation is a more accurate term than interview for what went on between them and me. I didn’t have an interview protocol that I used with everyone. There was nothing so formal as that. Instead, I was guided by a list of topics and themes I wanted to explore with each person. I edited myself out of the transcription of each tape so that it was just a statement, or personal account, from the person I talked with. I gave each statement a title and wrote a brief preface to introduce the speaker. After transcribing nine of the tapes myself, I suddenly lost virtually all my hearing and could no longer hear the voices on the tapes. I am appreciative of Katrina Gibson’s excellent work transcribing the last seven tapes, as well as for her editorial assistance.

The words in this book are the speakers’. I did some editing for length and to avoid repetition and maintain continuity, but I was careful not to alter, soften, or censor anything someone said. As much as possible, I want you to experience these individuals as I did, and reading back over the statements, I think you will.

This book grows out of another book I authored, The Fame of a Dead Man’s Deeds: An Up-Close Portrait of White Nationalist William Pierce, which was published in 2000. William Pierce, who died in July of 2002, was a prominent figure in the white nationalist (another term, white racialist) movement. He was the founder and chairman of the National Alliance, which has around two thousand members and is headquartered on Pierce’s 340-acre property in rural West Virginia. Pierce is best known as the author of the widely read--a half million readers--underground novel, The Turner Diaries, which describes the racially motivated terrorist acts of a band of white American revolutionaries against a corrupt federal government and its supporters.

In the process of researching the Pierce book in the late 1990s, I met a number of white racialists, some followers of Pierce and some not. After the book was published, other racially aware whites contacted me, and I met still others at various meetings and through the Internet. What has struck me about the three hundred or more people I have encountered over the past five years, and I include the leaders of the movement in this characterization, is how invisible and silent they are in the public arena. To be sure, we have a generalized image of people of this sort and what they believe: ignorant, violence-prone KKK members, menacing skinheads, and low-life or deranged thugs doing their “perp walks” after committing a heinous hate crime against minorities. The vast majority of the white nationalists I have met do not fit these stereotypes, but how would average Americans know that? These people aren’t on the television news shows speaking for themselves. They don’t make movies. They don’t publish books and articles. Politicians don’t articulate their perspective and advocate their positions. Journalists and intellectuals don’t write about them unless it is to belittle them. They aren’t on university and college faculties, and schools make no attempt to consider them objectively.

What has also struck me about the people I have met is that, at least in my view, they have something to say that would contribute to the public dialogue and debate. I believe this society and culture would benefit from hearing what they think about race. Which is not to say that I consider them to be right about everything. I do offer, however, that, in the main, white racialists are serious and thoughtful and sincere, and they are trying to live just and honorable lives. If you find this to be true of the people in this book, know that they aren’t exceptional. They are typical.

Nah it was pretty fucking gay, but nice try dumbass.

Antiochus Epiphanes
December 26th, 2003, 12:32 PM
Hey, instead of looking for "cheap online versions" go out there and BUY THE BOOK! You'll have it in a nice convenient format called "paper" that doenst require electricity and with any luck, a racially aware fellow like Griffin will get a small royalty!

Victor Wolzek
December 26th, 2003, 12:56 PM
Hey, instead of looking for "cheap online versions" go out there and BUY THE BOOK! You'll have it in a nice convenient format called "paper" that doenst require electricity and with any luck, a racially aware fellow like Griffin will get a small royalty!


AMEN to that.

IFartedInYourMouth
December 26th, 2003, 03:19 PM
Billy Boob:"I wonder if any vnn posters or readers could direct me to any free on-line versions of these books, so we can all read them asap?"

Free?

Free?


Son, only a fucking Jew would want to get a white man's work for free. Or a fucking troll.

I fart in your mouth. You earned it.

William Robert
December 26th, 2003, 09:12 PM
to some porn forum or something. Get a life FREAK!!!

William Robert
December 26th, 2003, 09:16 PM
man who has historically freely given. It's the enemy who is Greedy for money.
Nice try TROLL!! You LOSE!!!
If you can't follow the rules of the forum as established By Alex, Victor, and Tom. Then you deserve the IRON CURTIAN treatment? TROLL!!!!

William Robert
December 26th, 2003, 09:20 PM
If you feel the need to charge, that's your prerogative. I would "share valuable information" with "my friends" free of charge. But then again English Blood runs through my veins. You could freely distribute. You choose not to. What are your publicly stated reasons for not doing so? Thanks.
AMEN to that.

William Robert
December 26th, 2003, 09:23 PM
I don't have a problem with that. I would rather freely give that financial support, that have it forced from me, before I can find out if it's really worth it to begin with. Don't worry it's a Billy Bob thing, you probably wouldn't understand.
Hey, instead of looking for "cheap online versions" go out there and BUY THE BOOK! You'll have it in a nice convenient format called "paper" that doenst require electricity and with any luck, a racially aware fellow like Griffin will get a small royalty!

The Final Solution
January 5th, 2004, 05:13 PM
Does anyone know who (besides AL) are the subjects of this book?

BTW I was pretty disappointed with Griffin's "bio" of WLP.

Victor Wolzek
January 7th, 2004, 03:35 AM
Does anyone know who (besides AL) are the subjects of this book?

BTW I was pretty disappointed with Griffin's "bio" of WLP.

In addition to Alex, whites featured include VNN's D.W., Legion Europa founder and VNN contributor Mike Rienzi, and VNN's Rob Freeman. There may be others VNNers would be familiar with too, but I haven't read it yet.

Final Solution - I'm curious, why were you disappointed in the Pierce bio? What about it did you find unsatisfying or incomplete?

The Final Solution
January 7th, 2004, 12:20 PM
Final Solution - I'm curious, why were you disappointed in the Pierce bio? What about it did you find unsatisfying or incomplete?

I read it about a year ago, but recall it being more of an "autobiography as told to"...than a real bio. Itz really just Pierce's own story, plus some good ADV excerpts (which do make it a useful reference work). Then there are Prof. Griffin's attempts to summarize works WLP referred him to, like Nietzsche, Shaw, Adams, etc., but he's way out of his depth.

Griffin agreed not to do a hatchet job on WLP or "pathologize" him, but in the process adds no understanding of WLP independent of WLP's capacity for self-reflection, limited in all of us. The gap I found most astounding is the impression given that WLP acquired his distaste for the kike solely through his voluminous reading. Yet he attended CalTech and had a career as in academic physics, hardly judenrein! A real biographer would want to know about WLP's real world experience with the kike, how it influenced his political thinking, and to what extent it was the other way around. Instead, we're left with a one-dimensional picture, hardly worthy of the man lionized by so many who knew him far better than Griffin.

BTW, I have precisely the same question about Prof. MacDonald, who admittedly was himself a follower of the jew Left at the People's Republic of Madison, and has spent 3 decades in the field of psychology which, even after the Freudian personality cult was sent packing to the film schools, is thoroughly infested with kikenvermin. And all of a sudden in 1994 he wakes up to discover, through meticulous scholarly research, that they're "ethnocentric," and 4 years later that they got together (conspired?) to do some unpleasant things like communism and immigration "reform." Something's missing. But it just goes to show that MacDonald should not be his own biographer, nor use someone like Griffin as his scribe.

Antiochus Epiphanes
February 3rd, 2004, 02:16 PM
I just bought One Sheaf One vine from amazon. It can also be had from 1stbooks.com. Anyhow, it's great to have the personal accounts of so many good White folks concerned about their own kind, all assembled in one place. This would be a good recruiting book. I urge people to go out and buy ten of these books and hand them out to key people you may have contact with who should be exposed to WN. Buying a copy for local libraries is a good idea too.

Finally, reading about Alex and friends was great. I really enjoyed it. Couldnt wait to read it, and dropped everything when I received it. I neglected many pressing matters in favor of reading this. It will feed your curiosity greatly folks. We all clearly have far more in common than we might have suspected.

I thank Prof Griffin for taking the time to visit with all his subjects and get this book into print. Let's thank him by buying it.

All you Jew trolls and Antis out there should buy a bunch too, OK? LOL Sleaze Dees ought to buy one for every staffer. In fact I think every one of the six million Jews in America should buy this book. Every sysnagogue and local library should have a copy.

White Will
February 14th, 2004, 07:07 PM
I just bought One Sheaf One vine from amazon. It can also be had from 1stbooks.com. Anyhow, it's great to have the personal accounts of so many good White folks concerned about their own kind, all assembled in one place. This would be a good recruiting book. I urge people to go out and buy ten of these books and hand them out to key people you may have contact with who should be exposed to WN. Buying a copy for local libraries is a good idea too.

Finally, reading about Alex and friends was great. I really enjoyed it. Couldnt wait to read it, and dropped everything when I received it. I neglected many pressing matters in favor of reading this. It will feed your curiosity greatly folks. We all clearly have far more in common than we might have suspected.

I thank Prof Griffin for taking the time to visit with all his subjects and get this book into print. Let's thank him by buying it.

All you Jew trolls and Antis out there should buy a bunch too, OK? LOL Sleaze Dees ought to buy one for every staffer. In fact I think every one of the six million Jews in America should buy this book. Every sysnagogue and local library should have a copy.

I've had the book for a couple of weeks and haven't neglected more pressing matters to read it. I looked through all 17 chapters and easily recognized a majority of the people interviewed, even though most are given aliases, reading a little here and there. I started back reading from the beginning and am into chapter 11 now. What strikes me most about this book is what a great tool it is for recruiting normal people to the National Alliance. Griffin, who joined NA, himself, a year or so ago, obviously had this in mind when writing _One Sheaf, One Vine_, as every person interviewed either mentions that he is a NA member or speaks of NA glowingly. Even Joe Bishop and Ken Campbell, who used to attack NA and Dr. Pierce but have some sort of association with Griffin, give excellent interviews and speak highly of Dr. Pierce and NA.

When I first noticed that Griffin had thanked Bishop (aka Keith Fulton) and Campbell (aka Ken Gordon) for their "sound advice and insightful criticism" in Fame's acknowledgments page, I couldn't believe my eyes. When I pointed this out to Dr. Pierce he said that was one of the primary reasons he decided not to include his own bigraphy in the NVB catalog. We both thought that Fame was a pretty good transmission belt for his ideas, however, though it was clear then that Dr. Griffin had a ways to go before getting a grasp of our movement and its players. He HAS come a long way since writing Fame, but, unfortunately, any innocent White who reads OSOV and who joins NA as a result is not joining the same organization Dr. Pierce founded and will be sorely disappointed in due time, perhaps lost to us. What a shame.

As I was reading Eric Owens's interview (chap. 10) earlier today, I was reminded of a recent e-mail I got where the writer was lamenting to me what disappointment I and others must be feeling as we watch the Alliance we put so much of our lives and fortunes into building crumbling, so unnecessarily, so fast, before our eyes. Indeed. I read Eric's wonderful story of racial awakening and radicalization, of how he was willing to die for our cause at one point, of how he had realized at that point that he had eclipsed leaders who were not willing to make such a sacrifice, and of how he decided to start his own organization that he called the Aryan International Movement, realizing moderate success.

Eric Owens: "After beating my head against the wall for a year trying to motivate people, I realized that the National Alliance is the group that is doing the most good with their long-term, slow-growth approach [NOT some goddamned short-term, fast-growth umbrella group approach, I might note]. I realized that you can only move as fast as you've got support to move. The Alliance is accomplishing what can be accomplished in the current circumstance better than I can, so I decided that rather than start another group [like Billy Roper did with his competing group] it would be better for me to become a member of the Alliance. And that is what I've done...I try to be the kind of member of the Alliance I would have liked in my own organization. Besides my dues, I give as much extra money as I can, and right now I'm trying to build myself up career-wise so that I can give not a hundred dollars at a time but several thousand dollars at a time."

What a great, inspirational story Eric and the others tell in _One Sheaf, One Vine_. I have to wonder at what point Eric will realize that the organization he has dedicated his very life and fortune to has become corrupted by a gang of thieves, and the depth of disappointment he will feel for hitching his wagon to a falling star. How many others has Eric inspired to join NA to do the same? Where will they all go when they start smelling the dead fish? Is the short-term, fast-growth White Revolution umbrella group going to be worth their or Eric's dying for any more than Gliebe' new short-term, fast-growth umbrella group? Hell no! They'll want Dr. Pierce's deliberate, long-term, slow-growth hard line organization back -- the one they thought they were joining. Let's just hope we don't lose all these folks altogether from their being burnt by Gliebe, Walker, Pringle and whoever else is going along with turning our Alliance into another run-of-the-mill, watered down, quantity over quality organization contrived in a state of exigency.

I also realized in reading chapter 10 of OSOV that if Celtic folk musician Eric Owens had been put in charge of Resistance Records instead of Erich Gliebe, Dr. Pierce's vision of what resistance music could become would be well on the way to realization now. Erich doesn't get it; Eric does.

Antiochus Epiphanes
February 15th, 2004, 04:19 PM
I've had the book for a couple of weeks........

I also realized in reading chapter 10 of OSOV that if Celtic folk musician Eric Owens had been put in charge of Resistance Records instead of Erich Gliebe, Dr. Pierce's vision of what resistance music could become would be well on the way to realization now. Erich doesn't get it; Eric does.

Eric Owens' album "Res Gestae" is excellent. My kids love it, especially the song en francais, with only the two male voices, singing the tale of King Eugen ambushed by his enemies.. is "Le Roi Eugene" of that song, the same Prinz Eugen as the SS formation was named after? I dont know that history. Anyways, my kids dont parlez francais, but they know those lyrics by heart! "Vive le jour...vive la fleur de lys!"

The whole thing is great. I like the songs about the Spanish civil war, too. I'd love to see more music like this, that we could feed to some "celtic music" types and suck them into our orbit.

Antiochus Epiphanes
February 23rd, 2004, 12:37 PM
I really enjoyed this book. I've found it enhances my VNN experience greatly. People should check it out. Available from Amazon as well as 1stbooks.

Antiochus Epiphanes
March 13th, 2004, 03:10 AM
Have any of you bought this book? It's worth it for Alex's interview alone.