View Full Version : Magnus Volk, Bull Shitter Extraordinaire
Steve
December 2nd, 2003, 10:50 PM
Hi Folks,
In the previous VNN Forum, I challenged Stormfront's Macho Man, Magnus Volk, to defend his absurd lifting claims.
Here were some of them:
200 pound preacher dumbell(!!!) curl for 10 reps.
175 consecutive dips!!!
Bench press 315 for 60 reps.
I claimed these lifts were impossible (unless one had green skin and was affected by gamma rays), unless one did (very)partial reps. or cheated like hell. (Curls, or reverse power cleans?)
Irish Jay wrote in trying to defend Magnus, but, did a terrible job.
Anyway, I noted they discussed this on their (Stormfront) pussy Forum, where criticism of popular members is verboten.
Here is the thread: http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=82236
Here was the reply I had in store right before the old VNN Forum went down. I invite replies.
Since the VNN Forum was down, I decided to check Stormfront's out. Well, Well, I just noticed they discussed this thread over there. I was going to let this die, knowing to my satisfaction that I proved Magnus and Jay to be full of shit, but, their gutless, pathetic thread spurred me to continue this.
1) Magnus, you lying prick, the reason I did not PM you directly is because you are NOT worthy of that. It was more appropriate to simply point out, for my amusement and the Forum readers, your totally outrageous claims. I simply will not treat a delusional bull shitter as an equal. Also, the reason I did not post at Stormfront is because my experience with them gives me reason to doubt they would have aired my post.
2) So, you would not like to sit across the table from this redneck, huh? Well, I do not fancy sitting across from a dishonest, delusional asshole like yourself. I made the challenge, in part, because I knew you could/would not accept it. (But, if by some miracle you did, I would have honored it.)
3) Irish. Fuck you. I gave you every opportunity to support your defense of Magnus. I asked what did you ever see Magnus do that supported his claims. Going to all you can eat places together is not enough, idiot. Also, when you admitted he did things on a machine (which you claimed were easier than free weights, for the specific lift you were addressing), that is an admission that his claims may not have been authentic.
4) Magnus and Jay laugh at what I said, then of course all the Stormfront lemmings go along with it, but, he admits, implicitly, that I was correct. Namely, that he used partial reps.
Hey, I ran a 30 second mile the other day. Oh, I forgot to mention, it was down a mountain. (I broke a few bones in the process. But, I did do the mile in 30 seconds.) For the stupid fuckers, white or otherwise, who don't get my point, I'll explain. Doing a set with partial movements is in no way comparable to doing a set with full, legitimate movements. Irish Jay, you, being a competitor, should know better. You are an absolute disgrace that you deride my claims, knowing by now that Magnus' lifts were partial movements.
5) To the stupid shit who claims I know nothing about lifting. That's right little man, blindly follow your Stormfront leaders. Listen, jerk off, I was sure about the absurdity of Magnus' claims because I DO know quite a lot about lifting. Oh, but I'm only 5'7", 163 #. Surely I'm too small to know more than Magnus. I bet you simpletons actually 'think' like that.
I'll tell you, with every justification, I claimed Magnus's claims were total bull shit. I was so sure, I challenged him, and offered to buy him and his gullible friend a dinner if I was proven incorrect. And look at the response I get. It is very similar to the third biggest lie of all time (behind Xianity, and Magnus' claims), the so-called Holocaust. The revisionists challenge the hoaxers, and the hoaxers, in very jew-like fashion, respond in a quite similar manner as does Irish Jay and Magnus, and their little asshole pussy Stormfronters.
One last thing, but, quite pertinent. On a lifting forum, I posed the possibility of Magnus' claims. Here are the some of the responses I got. Note that NOT ONE supported anything Magnus claimed (with the possible exception of 30 chins, which even I admitted was a MAYBE. (But, in Magnus's case, I doubt it. If he could do 30, he'd claim 97, and round up to 100. Fucking jew-like bastard prick.))
Now, assholes out there, would you claim NONE of them, from a popular lifting forum, know anything about lifting? Hey, do any of you ever consider that maybe, just maybe, that when Pierce referred to people as lemmings, he was NOT excluding YOU? But you know what, ironically, most of you are too stupid to realize that you may actually be stupid!
Here are some of the responses I got from my post:
The only way I can believe this guy has achieved such feats of strength is through partial reps, in other words he is only pushing or pulling just few inches in his strongest range of motion.
I just saw your post. I agree that, with the exception of #3, these lifts are probably impossible. #2 MIGHT be possible. But given what the guy claims, why believe any of them?
The Chins are possible. . Everything else in your list is Absurd!
#2, maybe, but not at that bodyweight. #3, yeah, that I can believe (did he proclaim to have a minivan strapped to his waist and crocodiles chomping on his testicles when he did it!! ;) ). The others (in my
opinion) are pure horse hockey. Does he also claim to leap over small buildings with a single bound, be faster than a locomotive (although with the state of most rail now , this is not that big a feat), catch
bullets in his teeth for fun, and have a nasty allergy to kryptonite???? Have a good one, keep up the good work, and God bless.
I agree with you. 30 pull-ups are possible, but only a machine could do the others. Ask this guy to show you!
ALL responses were similar. NOT ONE supported Magnus' outrageous claims.
You know who the biggest asshole is in all this? Not Magnus, not even the little lemming pussies over at Stormfront. It's Irish Jay. He is a guy who actually competes. So, he should know better. While he was 'defending' Magnus, Magnus was too chicken shit to defend himself. Irish, are you too stupid to realize that your lifting feats, assuming they are authentic, are degraded by someone like Magnus? Also, in my original post, I claimed Magnus could only do 175 dips(!!!) if his range of movement was very small. Of course, that applied to all his other lifts. He admitted he uses partial reps. But, you still claim I was wrong. What a dishonest, gutless, Magnus ass kisser you are. I was joking about your earring, but I'm dead serious about this. You are a disgrace the way you kiss his ass, defending the indefensible. You should cower in disgust every time you look in the mirror.
You have one way out. But, it would take a man to do it. But, you can admit right now, that I was indeed correct in my claims that Magnus' lifts were ridiculous, and that you were indeed proven wrong. If you are man enough to do that, we can start at square one.
So, will any Stormfront poster have the guts to post there that he is agreement with what I am saying, and that Magnus' lifts are ridiculous, and hence that Magnus is a lying asshole? Are you trying to tell me NOBODY over there realizes that his claims are absurd, and hence that he and Irish are a couple of shits? White Pride World Wide! I laugh in your face! You're a god damned embarrassment. The jews just love it that you exist.
Steve
IrishJay
December 3rd, 2003, 12:39 AM
Get over it, Steve.
You both have nothing to prove, and an internet pissing contest isn't going to help your cause.
I guess VNN is going to pick up where it left off...figures.
Roy Batty
December 3rd, 2003, 01:29 AM
Man, relax. I'm laughing my ass off at your shots at Magnus (whoever this bullshitter is), but don't get so steamed over it. 60 reps with 315? That has me laughing my ass off. I've seen a guy who could bench over 600 do almost 40 reps with 225, and he was falling apart at the end. I've also seen one huge SOB who used to play OL in the NFL curl 225 on a preacher bench, for one rep. So yeah, Magnus is full of the well known quantity referred to as bullshit. But don't let it get so personal. Who cares what this lunk claims? Anyone with any knowledge of weightlifting or exercise knows the claims are bunk. It is funny enough for me to tell some guys around the gym about the claims, though. Once in awhile, some goof will make an outrageous claim, but at least in the gym, we can put him to the test.
western-nationalist
December 3rd, 2003, 02:31 PM
Maybe Magnus Volk is exaggerating a bit, but I saw some of his pics he is a big guy. I think magnus also claimed once that he benched 600 LB's ten times, now that is pure BS.
Steve
December 3rd, 2003, 08:50 PM
Hey, fellows, let's not misread me here!
This is the VNN Forum, where we can post as we please, much unlike that pussy, bull shitter, ridden Stormfront forum. So, I'm just having a bit of fun pointing out what a lying sack of shit Magnusis. And what a coward Irish Jay is.
Believe me, when discussing Magnus' so-called lifts at work, we all had a good howl!
So, Roy, I'm relaxed, I'm cool, man! Hey, Magnus even claimed to bench 225 for 100 reps! I am actually laughing typing this out! He also claimed to do one handed(!!!), tricep pushdowns with 200 pounds (if I recall correctly), for many reps.
Vlad, I do not mind a braggart. But, if the claims are total bull shit, and you are called on it, it is nothing admirable to not admit it. Sure, sniveling and cowering are no good, but, that does not excuse being a complete lying bull shitter. Come on.
Lastly, Jay, I note your swipe at VNN's Forum, but yet you do continue to post here. And, you have posted stuff here that would not be allowed on your pussy forum. Smacks of hypocrisy to me.
Steve B
December 4th, 2003, 01:06 AM
Steve,
Anybody with half a brain knows that a 315 pound free-weight bench press for 60 reps just ain't within the realm of possibility. I think that even IrishJay has acknowledged that, albeit half-heartedly.
You made your point, move on dude. You're weightlifting and strength posts on the last VNN forum were instructive and informative. Go back to that, many VNN readers would like to get some pointers.
IrishJay
December 4th, 2003, 03:42 AM
Hey, fellows, let's not misread me here!
This is the VNN Forum, where we can post as we please, much unlike that pussy, bull shitter, ridden Stormfront forum. So, I'm just having a bit of fun pointing out what a lying sack of shit Magnusis. And what a coward Irish Jay is.
Believe me, when discussing Magnus' so-called lifts at work, we all had a good howl!
So, Roy, I'm relaxed, I'm cool, man! Hey, Magnus even claimed to bench 225 for 100 reps! I am actually laughing typing this out! He also claimed to do one handed(!!!), tricep pushdowns with 200 pounds (if I recall correctly), for many reps.
Vlad, I do not mind a braggart. But, if the claims are total bull shit, and you are called on it, it is nothing admirable to not admit it. Sure, sniveling and cowering are no good, but, that does not excuse being a complete lying bull shitter. Come on.
Lastly, Jay, I note your swipe at VNN's Forum, but yet you do continue to post here. And, you have posted stuff here that would not be allowed on your pussy forum. Smacks of hypocrisy to me.
Tell ya what, Steve.
Keep your mouth shut and make the drive to the KSS concert on Jan 17th. See their webpage for the info.
Put your money where your mouth is and call me a coward, pussy, fuckwad to my face.
I have no time for net insults, you can either put up, get your ass handed to you --- or shut the fuck up.
The choice is yours.
This isn't about Magnus, I could care less what he lifts, the fact is that I did see him do a few lifts, not all, but a few. But, if you want to continue insulting me, my offer stands.
Let's see what you are made of, Stevie.
IrishJay
December 4th, 2003, 03:54 AM
And, yes, we do have heavy handed moderation on SF. Look what happens when you don't. You get insults, asinine comments, flames, etc..
I come here for the funny reads, the fights and the chance to let it all hang out.
I will always say VNN sucks, it is the National Enquirer of the WN world, and I could care less if it survives or fails, in fact I hope it fails for several reasons. One is Linder's stupidity in even trusting Bill White in the first place, another is the juvenile and niggerish 'z's in place of 's's.
But....my offer stands to you, Steve. If you want to debate like a man about MY lifting, feel free. If you want to talk shit on Magnus, take it up with him. NOBODY censored your SF posts to him, but I, of all people on that forum, can attest that he did do a few of the lifts he boasted about. I can only vouch for a few, not all. But, if you want to continue to think you are an internet bad-ass, take your ass up to the concert as per my previous post and you will see me --- in my kilt.
I am pretty fucking hard to miss, what are you going to do?
The_Immortal_Kind
December 4th, 2003, 03:56 AM
Vlad
"I would like to see more proud Aryans making proud proclamations instead of the sniveling and cowering we see so much of today. More power to him."
Last time I checked, lying wasn't an Aryan trait. If one can't stand up to his challenge and show everyone that he is a man he shouldn't be making proud proclamations. That's the honorable thing to do. Whether Vikings did it or not is not really of a big significance in my opinion.
And when it comes to this, weightlifting and who can do more.....just let it go guys. If you want to prove something to somebody then challenge him in a contest, just like someone here suggested. You two get together, get some independent observers and go at it. May the better win!
Styrkar Nielsen
December 4th, 2003, 08:20 AM
But, if you want to continue to think you are an internet bad-ass, take your ass up to the concert as per my previous post and you will see me --- in my kilt.
I am pretty fucking hard to miss, what are you going to do?
You cant miss a guy in a skirt, stiletto heels, pancake makeup, and a halter top at a white power concert.
What's he going to do? Probably die laughing.
Steve
December 4th, 2003, 01:22 PM
Steve B:Anybody with half a brain knows that a 315 pound free-weight bench press for 60 reps just ain't within the realm of possibility. I think that even IrishJay has acknowledged that, albeit half-heartedly.
No! That is much of my point! He kind of implied it, by claiming Magnus may have used machines, instead of free weights, which may, at times, be easier. And, when Magnus himself admitted using partial reps, Irish Jay STILL would not ackowledge Magnus' lifts were beyond bugus.
Steve B: You made your point, move on dude. You're weightlifting and strength posts on the last VNN forum were instructive and informative. Go back to that, many VNN readers would like to get some pointers.
Hey, I want to move on, but they keep bringing me back! As for your suggestion I go back to discussing lifting, etc., good point. Thanks. I will soon.
God Damn! You people tell me to get over it. Look at Jay! Jesus Christ, Irish, get a grip!
Irish Jay: I have no time for net insults, you can either put up, get your ass handed to you --- or shut the fuck up.
Steve
December 4th, 2003, 01:34 PM
Steve B:Anybody with half a brain knows that a 315 pound free-weight bench press for 60 reps just ain't within the realm of possibility. I think that even IrishJay has acknowledged that, albeit half-heartedly.
No! That is much of my point! He kind of implied it, by claiming Magnus may have used machines, instead of free weights, which may, at times, be easier. And, when Magnus himself admitted using partial reps, Irish Jay STILL would not acknowledge Magnus' lifts were beyond bogus.
Steve B: You made your point, move on dude. You're weightlifting and strength posts on the last VNN forum were instructive and informative. Go back to that, many VNN readers would like to get some pointers.
Hey, I want to move on, but they keep bringing me back! As for your suggestion I go back to discussing lifting, etc., good point. Thanks. I will soon.
God Damn! You people tell me to get over it. Look at Jay! Jesus Christ, Irish, get a grip!
Irish Jay: I have no time for net insults, you can either put up, get your ass handed to you --- or shut the fuck up.
You have no time for insults, but, you keep coming back to this thread. And keep arguing about it. And now, threaten to kick my ass!
Jay: ...the fact is that I did see him do a few lifts, not all, but a few. ..."
Hey, in true fair, white, fashion, I asked you for SPECIFIC lifts you saw him do that would support his outrageous claims. You kept saying things like you lifted with him, he is strong, etc. If my memory is correct, the only thing you claimed to have seen him do was dumbell curl 150 for some reps, but I'm not sure. Well, even 150# for a man the size of Magnus, while impressive, is still believable if much cheating is involved. Also, 150 is quite a bit less than 210. In other words, you have not, nor now, have offered any credible evidence he made those lifts. But, you still can't admit his claims are ridiculous.
Jay: And, yes, we do have heavy handed moderation on SF. Look what happens when you don't. You get insults, asinine comments, flames, etc..
And, you must appreciate this Forum, since you continue to post, and argue, here.
Jay: But....my offer stands to you, Steve. If you want to debate like a man about MY lifting, feel free.
I never questioned your lifts. To be frank, I have no reason to believe you are a bull shitter when it comes to your lifts.
Jay: ...but I, of all people on that forum, can attest that he did do a few of the lifts he boasted about.
That seems like a lie, or at least evasion. I repeatedly asked for specifics. You only gave the 150# dumbell curl as an example. If you had seen him bench 300 for, say 50 reps, then THAT would be evidence. But, you never offered anything like that.
Jay:But, if you want to continue to think you are an internet bad-ass, take your ass up to the concert as per my previous post and you will see me --- in my kilt.
Put your money where your mouth is and call me a coward, pussy, fuckwad to my face.
Jay, don't be ridiculous. You are literally twice my size. I have no doubt you can kick my ass, despite your kilt.
I admit, I took a few liberties behind my screen. So, here is what I'll do. I'll be serious right now. THIS is what I would have said to your face, and WILL say to your face if I meet you:
Magnus was/is full of shit and I amply demonstrated that. Instead of admitting the obvious, you derided my argument. Since you competed in strongman events, you MUST have known Magnus was full of shit. Especially after I pointed it out. Because you basically challenge me to a fight (which, of course, I would not accept), does not mean you are not a coward. I called you cowardly because it genuinely seemed to me you were kissing up to Magnus. If I'm wrong about that, I'm ready to admit it. But, it did/does seem like that to me. Jay, nobody on the planet can bench 315 for 60 reps. By defending him, he is making an arse out of you.
I'll be very frank here, you did not seem like a bad guy; maybe your choice of friends is misguided. But, actually trying to pick a fight seems childish at best, Jay.
Immortal_Kind:Last time I checked, lying wasn't an Aryan trait. If one can't stand up to his challenge and show everyone that he is a man he shouldn't be making proud proclamations. That's the honorable thing to do. Whether Vikings did it or not is not really of a big significance in my opinion."
"And when it comes to this, weightlifting and who can do more.....just let it go guys. If you want to prove something to somebody then challenge him in a contest, just like someone here suggested. You two get together, get some independent observers and go at it. May the better win!
Very good point you make in the first paragraph!
I have no doubt Magnus can outlift me. But, I will say this. He claimed to do 30 chinups. I also make that claim. I challenge him to a chinup contest. The loser must buy the other a steak dinner, and come on this forum an admit he was beat!
But, I must stress, this was not about what I can do. It was about what Magnus CANNOT do.
IrishJay
December 5th, 2003, 01:11 AM
Well, Steve, I was not challenging you as much as I was asking you to step to the plate, I was asking you to back up your claims of calling me a coward to my face and being a man instead of a net talker. Sure, a fight would have happened, but such is the price to pay for trying to be a big shot behind a PC screen.
I saw the dumbbell curls and 405 on the Hammer Strength bench machine for dozens of reps, I forget the exact number, but the gym was pretty impressed let me tell you. It was a while ago, so I do not remember the exact rep count.
I kiss nobody's ass, period, but I do know that Magnus is fucking strong and in his chosen sport he is one of the nation's best, period.
By the way...I love when people back down when physically challenged.
Steve
December 7th, 2003, 03:06 PM
Jay : "I saw the dumbbell curls and 405 on the Hammer Strength bench machine for dozens of reps, I forget the exact number, but the gym was pretty impressed let me tell you. It was a while ago, so I do not remember the exact rep count."
Ok, Jay, I'll make it simple, and unambiguous.
1)Using reasonable (not necessarily perfect, or even very good, or even good) form, do you believe Magnus can bench 315 (free weights)for 60 reps? Yes or no?
2)Do you think he can do 50 reps? Yes or no?
3)40 reps?
4)30 reps?
5)20 reps?
You have the choice of appearing quite ignorant in peoples' lifting abilities or implying Magnus is a delusional bull shitter.
Jesus, it seems you and the other assholes on Stormfront are the only people on the planet who 'believes' Magnus.
Jay: "...Sure, a fight would have happened, ..."
You know, despite the tone of my posts, I still considered it good natured, the taking of liberties on a Forum. I really would have said most of this to your face, naively thinking we would have had a laugh at our internet encounter. But, it seems you are no different from an uncivilized nigger. I also note that many others on this forum have insulted you. But, you do not seem to take as much offense. I think it is because you recognize more than a grain of truth in what I say. God Damn, you want to fight because you got beat in an argument.
Jay: "By the way...I love when people back down when physically challenged."
If you are indeed refering to a fight, then considering you are 6'2", 250, and I'm 5'7", 160, then you are one truly sad, pathetic asshole.
Magnus
December 8th, 2003, 02:44 AM
Last March, me and a good buddy beat the snot out of 4 big negros in the alley behind a local bar in town. It was great. My buddy is a two time Missouri Heavyweight Golden Gloves champ, and I happen to be no slouch myself.
To the point at hand, previous to the altercation in the alley, me and "The Champ" were curling 12 OZ. Budweisers at the rate of about 45 reps an hour. Call me a bullshiter, and I will call you some names over my computer in return. That's not just a threat, that's a promise.
IrishJay
December 8th, 2003, 03:41 AM
Jay : "I saw the dumbbell curls and 405 on the Hammer Strength bench machine for dozens of reps, I forget the exact number, but the gym was pretty impressed let me tell you. It was a while ago, so I do not remember the exact rep count."
Ok, Jay, I'll make it simple, and unambiguous.
1)Using reasonable (not necessarily perfect, or even very good, or even good) form, do you believe Magnus can bench 315 (free weights)for 60 reps? Yes or no?
2)Do you think he can do 50 reps? Yes or no?
3)40 reps?
4)30 reps?
5)20 reps?
You have the choice of appearing quite ignorant in peoples' lifting abilities or implying Magnus is a delusional bull shitter.
Jesus, it seems you and the other assholes on Stormfront are the only people on the planet who 'believes' Magnus.
Jay: "...Sure, a fight would have happened, ..."
You know, despite the tone of my posts, I still considered it good natured, the taking of liberties on a Forum. I really would have said most of this to your face, naively thinking we would have had a laugh at our internet encounter. But, it seems you are no different from an uncivilized nigger. I also note that many others on this forum have insulted you. But, you do not seem to take as much offense. I think it is because you recognize more than a grain of truth in what I say. God Damn, you want to fight because you got beat in an argument.
Jay: "By the way...I love when people back down when physically challenged."
If you are indeed refering to a fight, then considering you are 6'2", 250, and I'm 5'7", 160, then you are one truly sad, pathetic asshole.
Well, considering that I never knew what your "dimensions" were, I had no idea you were so small.
Also, you took WAY too many liberties online with me. Coward, pussy, etc.. Those are ridiculous things to call someone over the internet, if you wanted to be good-natured about it, your tone would have been entirely different.
Don't backpedal now, kid. You were an asshole about this from the door and you could have handled it differently, but you wanted to pump your stuff online in a pissing contest instead by callind me some asinine names.
Grow the fuck up next time and learn how to be truly "good-natured".
TylerD
December 8th, 2003, 04:51 AM
I think that everyone knows Magnus Volk cannot legitimately do those lifts but don't let it bother you so much. IrishJay is basically saying that the guy can lift a hell of a lot of weight. I've seen the pictures and do not doubt that either. Maybe it is pride but he isn't going to back off what he defended before.
I have never tried to do as many dips as I could but I can do plenty of those without breaking a sweat. Over on Stormfront he has admitted that his form is lousy, so that claim is probably with lousy form too.
The really strange thing to me was when Magnus Volk claimed that ONLY niggers challenged him on how much he could lift after they found out about his claims. That and how he thought it was bizarre you would challenge him. Where the hell is this guy from? Down here, if you say that you could run 100 meters in under 10 seconds or can squat 1000 pounds, you will have a lot of people calling you on it.
Steve
December 8th, 2003, 12:48 PM
Jay, you need to develop a thicker skin. Skin as thick as your head perhaps.
I called you a few names. So fuckin what? Is that any worse than not admitting you were wrong, when it was clearly demonstrated? You are reacting like a woman for god's sake.
Listen suckwad, I 'debated' with you, and proved to any reasonable person's satisfaction that Magnus was a lying piece of shit. Instead of being a man and admitting it, you refused to do so. I pointed out it was because you were afraid to go against your hero, Magnus. THAT Was why I (justifiably)called you a pussy and a coward.
I notice you still did not answer my questions. Again, I can only conclude it is because you are a pussy and a coward. Fine, Jay, you can take me in a fight. Big deal. But, you are afraid to admit publicly that Magnus cannot bench, or lift, anything near what he claims. THAT is a pussy and a coward. Understand, dunce?
You really are to easy to make a monkey out of. You claim more than once you have better things to do than engage in an internet pissing contest. But, you are right in the middle of one.
You claim not to know my physical dimensions, but, here it is on the first post of this very thread. "Oh, but I'm only 5'7", 163 #. Surely I'm too small to know more than Magnus. I bet you simpletons actually 'think' like that."
Jay, you went to bat for your hero, and failed miserably. It would have been better to just admit Magnus injested too much creatine, yohimbe bark extract, ground up monkey penis, or whatever else you morons are suckered to buy nowadays.
I will ask again, shithead, how many reps with 315 on a flat bench do you think Magnus can do? Answer the question, gutless, or just shut the fuck up and go away.
IrishJay
December 9th, 2003, 01:41 AM
How many reps can he bench on a flat bench at 315....I think now he can do around 20. It is different than the Hammer Strength machines, so he will do less.
Now as for the rest, I do have a thick skin...in fact very thick, but when little net pieces of shit like to call me a pussy and a coward for no reason other than me defending a friend of mine, that pisses me off.
I never read the part about your dimensions...so insult away on me, kid.
Debates are civil, or somewhat civil. What you are doing is beyond that, which is why I said what I said about us meeting.
Where I am from, being called a coward and/or pussy gets you cracked in the jaw, maybe where you are from people run from shit like that, but not me.
Grow up, Steve, there is more to life than worrying about how much Magnus can or cannot lift. Get over it, move on, get a motherfucking life.
Real Paladin
December 9th, 2003, 02:00 AM
Get over it, move on, get a motherfucking life.
Pretty much sums it up.
BillWhiteGroidKyke
December 9th, 2003, 02:17 AM
Shee-it mofo! I challenge youse IrishJay, I knows you can'ts take me! De "secret sources" in my head tell me that you are really that Kevin Alfred Strom characta, tryin' to mess wit my boyeefren! Well you bes' be gettin' outta heah IrishJay, 'cause me & my homefunks gonna fukk youse up boyee!
Shee-it, for all ya'lls info, I just heard from Pravda that Bill White (& yea dat be me, bi-atch) can lift de followin':
3 tubs of icecream to my mouth
linda's d*** to my mouth to
So ya bes' be gettin on somewheres, IrishJay! We all know what you be playin at!
Steve
December 12th, 2003, 04:04 PM
RoHoMo88 says: "Fagnus is a liar. Anyone with even an elementary understanding of weightlifting can see that. His claims are nothing but bullshit,..."
Of course! And it says quite a bit about those StormCunt pussies who refuse to ackowlegde this obvious fact. But, knowing that pathetic site, if you did, you'd get banned!
As for Jay and Paladin: "Grow up, Steve, there is more to life than worrying about how much Magnus can or cannot lift. Get over it, move on, get a motherfucking life."
These two assholes are good examples of why, while I may be sympathetic to White racialism, I generally have no use for itz (alleged)adherents.
Listen, anyone with a modicum of ability to follow a point should have realized by now that it is NOT Magnus' claims I am bitching about. This has been my main point on this thread:
I initially claimed (correctly) that Magnus' claims were nonsense, unless he used partial, cheating, etc. movements. On the Stormcunt site, he admitted as such (after I challenged him). Implying, of course, that I was correct.
However, even after that admission, Irish Jay, and his fellow Stormcunts continued to act as if my charges were incorrect. Jesus Christ, if they had any brains, I'd swear they were jews! But, they were not being clever, they are/were simple lemmings. Stormcunt lemmings.
Real Paladin, you are a great example of such a jerk off lemming. Jay, a Stormcunt hero, says, "Grow up, Steve, there is more to life than worrying about how much Magnus can or cannot lift. Get over it, move on, get a motherfucking life."
And you felt compelled to second it.
Jerk-off, how can anyone who posts as often as you tell anyone to get a life? Plus, Irish Jay seems to live on SF's forum, and has responded, ridiculously I might add, to every post I have made here. But, you do not tell HIM to get a life. Typical Stormfront, ass kissing lemming. And what a pretentious moniker. Also, do you still not realize my main point was NOT what magnus can or cannot do? No, you probably don't. You seem to be a typical white racialist. An uneducated, simple, lemming. Just like Pierce talked about.
To sum up, for the dunces that need it repeated. I did what any reasonable person would do when reading Magnus; point out he was delusional. And, I fully supported my claim. He actually admits it (implicitly), but, Jay and his stormfront sissies would not own up to it. THAT, not Magnus' idiotic claims, was what irked me. You got proved wrong, but did not admit it. I hate that shit. Whatz the point of discussion then?
As for getting a life, I admit, talking with you uneducated, classless, losers is getting old for me.
IrishJay
December 13th, 2003, 06:14 AM
As for getting a life, I admit, talking with you uneducated, classless, losers is getting old for me.
Ummm...then let the thread die, kid. Oh welll, you think I am a liar, an idiot, a lemming and a jackoff....ooooo...your opinion of me makes me worry. Thanks for caring enough to insult me yet again.
You insult SF so much, well I've read this forum and every other thread is basically a rip fest on one person or another and many of them are about SF's board. mods and regulars. Without SF, VNN would have never existed, period. This forum NEEDS SF so VNN can keep "fighting for the White race" the best way you know how, by acting like a junior high school locker room.
Real Paladin
December 14th, 2003, 07:01 PM
Jerk-off, how can anyone who posts as often as you tell anyone to get a life? I average 2 posts a day on SF, fuckface.
You are just another little runt who is frustrated by his size and lashes out at everything and anything.
Why do you really give a shit about Magnus or any other SF poster? That's what I meant by secondning "get a life".
Fuck you in your face, runt.
Real Paladin
December 15th, 2003, 10:57 PM
Calm down Elvis
Yeah, ok. :rolleyes:
The fake jews on this board say it best..."keep fighting among yourselves"
Some people just need to shut the fuck up.
Steve
December 18th, 2003, 10:28 PM
Jay Wrote: "Ummm...then let the thread die, kid. Oh welll, you think I am a liar, an idiot, a lemming and a jackoff....ooooo...your opinion of me makes me worry. Thanks for caring enough to insult me yet again.
You insult SF so much, well I've read this forum and every other thread is basically a rip fest on one person or another and many of them are about SF's board. mods and regulars. Without SF, VNN would have never existed, period. This forum NEEDS SF so VNN can keep "fighting for the White race" the best way you know how, by acting like a junior high school locker room."
I do not think you are so much a liar. I do believe, however, you are basicaly a simpleton. And, someone who is not honorable enough to admit he was wrong.
As for Stormfront and VNN, realize this thread, which YOU participated in, could not exist on that fairy forum of yours. Another thing, Magnus' lifts cannot be done by any human alive, yet nobody on that fucking forum calls him on it. What a joke.
We may spend some time bashing one another here, but, at least we can indeed write pretty much what we want to. There are some things that need to be said, things that are not trivial, or silly, but deadly serious, that could not be posted on Stormfront, but CAN be posted here. That is VNN's true value.
Real Paladin said :"I average 2 posts a day on SF, fuckface.
You are just another little runt who is frustrated by his size and lashes out at everything and anything.
Why do you really give a shit about Magnus or any other SF poster? That's what I meant by secondning "get a life".
Fuck you in your face, runt."
2 posts a day is quite a bit. And, based on what you wrote on this thread, I feel faily certain you have/had nothing of value to say in any of them.
Far from lashing out at 'everything and anything', I was merely pointing out that Magnus was a delusional bull shitter and after it was clearly demonstrated, Jay and his fellow Stormfront clique would not admit it.
I have a serious question. Do you really believe I have a problem with my size? If you are merely taking a shot, ok, that's cool; this whole thread turned into an insult fest. However, I think it is possible, on some level, you may believe your jewish psychological 'analysis'. How sadly typical of the average white racist lemming.
Once again, the eventual point of my thread was NOT that Magnus cannot do what he claims, but that you stormfront pricks would not admit your hero, Magnus, was indeed delusional. Understand, dunce? Please, think about it. I know following a point is difficult for many white goyim, but try reading the thread again, maybe you'll eventually get it.
Real Paladin
December 18th, 2003, 11:19 PM
Look man, it's not that big of a deal in the big picture. I don't know you, but I don't like getting called out for saying "get a life" when you are wrecking another white man. I responded to the thread because I thought it ludicrous for anyone to start the same shit over AGAIN from the old VNN board.
You brought this on by re-threading the same divisional shit as before.It's counter productive and stupid.
For all you know, maybe someone was inspired by some of the threads in H/F on SF and started lifting and making themselves strong. Not you, not I, but maybe some white young man who wanted to aspire to getting in better shape.
Do you really believe I have a problem with my size? If you are merely taking a shot, ok, that's cool;
Taking a shot that's all. Just like you, no big deal.
Let it die, and let's get back to saving the white race.
Steve
December 19th, 2003, 12:23 AM
Real Paladin,
Ok, you seem sincere, that's cool. No hard feelings here.
However, on a very serious note, I simply do not like extreme bull shitters. Hence my original thread (on the old VNN Forum) about Magnus.
I continued on this Forum because 1)Their own ranting on Stormfront, and 2)For the fun of it.
I am not picking on you here, RP, but, while it is possible Magnus' posts spurred somone to start lifitng, it is also likely his super human claims may have DISCOURAGED some. After all, anyone might feel woefully inadequate when comapred to Magnus. 175 consecutive dips! Come on! We can debate this, but, one thing is beyond debate, and that is, Magnus is full of shit; why debate the (possible)merits of such a post?
Look, while I am not really a White Racialist (I'm simply too misanthropic to indescriminately care about any group of people), I do admire the traits we have associated with Whites. That is, telling the truth, being considerate, responsible, etc. Everything about Magnus' posts, from his outrageous claims to his injesting jew produced suppliments, is all counter to what I consider "White". I pointed it out because 1)I felt he was not behaving in a responsible, honest (ie, WHITE) manner, and 2)to have some fun. Much more the first reason.
In any case, once again, no hard feelings RP.
IrishJay
December 19th, 2003, 01:04 AM
Well, Steve, since you THINK I am wrong and I know differently, we will argue this until we are blue in the face. Rest assured, Magnus and I are working on a little video project for the future so I can upload some mpegs to my website for all the dissenters to see what he can move.
Then you will let it die.
If you think I am a simpleton, that is your problem, but I know when I am right and I will defend my position.
Real Paladin
December 19th, 2003, 01:05 AM
No hard feelings here either. Misdirected honorable intentions sometimes go awry.
Just another day in the life.
Steve
December 19th, 2003, 05:43 PM
Jay, I am at a loss here. Magnus claimed to bench (free weights, NOT some machine) 315 for 60 reps. That was only 1 of his claims. I said that could only be done using very sloppy form; that nobody on the planet could legitimately bench 315 for 60 reps.
You yourself stated that you think he could do 20 reps with 315 using relatively decent form. In this one example, it more than seems I was and am correct in that Magnus' claims are absurd UNLESS VERY SLOPPY FORM IS USED. So, exactly how was I wrong? Jesus Christ, you yourself admit, though implicitly, Magnus' claims need qualifying. Big Time Qualifying. Which was my original point.
For example, I claim I can reverse curl 200 pounds. (However, I will not mention that the lift resembles a power clean.)
Listen, I do not doubt Magnus is strong. He is big, he works out, and even looks strong. But, BUT, his claims were ridiculous. Can Magnus do something that resembles 175 consecutive dips? If they are legitimate dips, I'd bet my life he cannot. If the range of movement is 3 inches, then I do not know. So, being ignorant on what can be done in such a limitted range of motion, I will concede it is POSSIBLE. But, if the dips are done legitimately, then NO, Magnus cannot do 175 of them.
Same for his other claims.
Do I give a shit that Magnus does partial movements to possibly boost his ego? (Not necessarily a cheap shot here; most of us either did that or do that.) No, let him do what he wants. But, as an example, if one is doing 700 pound for 20 reps on the QUARTER squat, and telling people he is doing squats (NOT QUARTER squats), then I object to that. It is deceiving, intentional or not.
The only lift I find POSSIBLE is his 30 chins. But, given his bodyweight, and his other claims, I doubt very much he can do 30 legitimate (all the way down, and the chin passes the bar) chins.
Now come on Jay, I no longer have a desire to fight. I am being serious here. Point out one thing I said that was incorrect. Let's put our insults behind us and be reasonable.
IrishJay
December 19th, 2003, 06:47 PM
Hahaha, Now THAT"S what I call a great comedy routine! : "Without SF, VNN would have never existed, period." - hahahaha. Good joke!! How'd you get so funny?The truth hurts, kid. How many threads here had some semblance of SF in them. Also, SF was the first WN bulletin board and still the largest. In essence, VNN thrives off of SF.
Steve, that is why I am getting the video thing setup as much as I can. Stop already, when I have the video proof as Magnus and I want to show, then you will see...until then. let it go and quit worrying so much about what Magnus can or cannot lift.
purestatic
December 22nd, 2003, 12:16 AM
I read some of his claims, and to be honest, they are quite amazing...HOWEVER - the question is : WHY? Why would you do 350 x60 reps? What’s the point...besides an insane desire for bone splints?
Your body, and more specifically, your joints, are NOT made for 60 reps of 350 pounds. That's probably the quickest way to destroy your ligaments and tendons.
If you can do 350 pounds, then move up to 355 pounds, or 360 pounds and so forth. You will NOT build muscle by doing 60 reps - that simply turns into an aerobic exercise - and an insane one at that.
To gain muscle, you should only be doing 6 to 12 reps of any anaerobic exercise. If you have a strange desire for a certain number (like 60), give your body enough time to remanufacture, and recuperate from the previous exercise.
For instance, a lot of bodybuilders do 6, 8, and even 10 sets of one particular exercise - BUT...they are taking 5-10 minute breaks between sets to replenish their ATP, and restore the water to their ligaments and tendons.
IrishJay
December 22nd, 2003, 10:51 PM
I read some of his claims, and to be honest, they are quite amazing...HOWEVER - the question is : WHY? Why would you do 350 x60 reps? What?s the point...besides an insane desire for bone splints?
Your body, and more specifically, your joints, are NOT made for 60 reps of 350 pounds. That's probably the quickest way to destroy your ligaments and tendons.
If you can do 350 pounds, then move up to 355 pounds, or 360 pounds and so forth. You will NOT build muscle by doing 60 reps - that simply turns into an aerobic exercise - and an insane one at that.
To gain muscle, you should only be doing 6 to 12 reps of any anaerobic exercise. If you have a strange desire for a certain number (like 60), give your body enough time to remanufacture, and recuperate from the previous exercise.
For instance, a lot of bodybuilders do 6, 8, and even 10 sets of one particular exercise - BUT...they are taking 5-10 minute breaks between sets to replenish their ATP, and restore the water to their ligaments and tendons.
His athletic pasttime requires some major upper body endurance and extreme explosive strength.
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