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Old August 19th, 2004   #1
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When Griffin first got in a position of influence in the BNP in 1998/1999. He said he was going to bring the UKIP 'into' the BNP, after destroying that party.

He seems to have done exactly the opposite.

It looks to me that he was working for UKIP all along

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We will destroy BNP, UKIP leader pledges THE TIMES - LONDON
By Helen Rumbelow, Political Correspondent


THE UK Independence Party will set out to destroy the British National Party at the next general election, one of its leaders said yesterday.

Nigel Farage, the leader of the UKIP’s group of 11 MEPs in the European Parliament, told The Times of his party’s plans to win a seat in Westminster next year.

The party is keen for Robert Kilroy-Silk, its most prominent politician, to stand in the most winnable constituency, backed by a full manifesto. Another strategy is to tackle the far-right BNP head-on, ruining their chances by poaching more moderate voters.

“There is only one party in Britain that can stop the BNP and that’s UKIP,” said Mr Farage. “Why should we be frightened of that?” One reason for the UKIP to be frightened is that this is a highly sensitive area for the party, which, as Mr Farage mentions, has suffered the gibe of being “BNP in blazers”.

Declaring their distance from the BNP while not putting off voters swinging from either the BNP or any of the main political parties is one of their first challenges.

“The UKIP is a country mile away from the BNP on any issue. We’re not racist, we’re for free trade,” he said. “The BNP is authoritarian, whereas the UKIP is basically a liberal party, which used to be classed as left wing; now it’s seen as right wing,” he said.

The UKIP were the fourth largest party in the European elections in June, gaining 2.7 million votes to the BNP’s 800,000. Mr Farage believes that a substantial number of the BNP voters were anti-immigration Eurosceptics who were not comfortable with the racism of the BNP but had not heard of the UKIP. Once its membership had been depleted, the BNP would wither as it lost momentum, he said.

“All the Labour Party and the Tories do is encourage the BNP. They’ve created the BNP,” said Mr Farage. “People have justifiable concerns about levels of immigration which they ignore. If the UKIP were to take half the BNP vote, but do so because they allowed people to express their anxieties about immigration but without having to vote for a party that is violent and racist, then we should not be frightened of that.”

Mr Kilroy-Silk, who has decided against standing in the Hartlepool by-election, would be strongly encouraged to stand in the general election, he said. “If Kilroy saw a winnable seat at the next election, I would be pretty surprised if he didn’t do it.”

Once described as a party of 8,000 with 9,000 egos, the UKIP now has a membership of 25,000 and even more provocative personalities — from Mr Kilroy-Silk’s references to Arabs as “suicide bombers, limb-amputators, women repressors” to the new MEP Godfrey Bloom’s statements that a women’s role was to “clean behind the fridge”.

Many members are refugees from the Conservative Party, including Piers Merchant, the disgraced former MP who was recently appointed UKIP’s chief executive. Mr Farage joined the Conservative Party at the age of 14, after Keith Joseph, the architect of Thatcherism, gave a talk on small government at Dulwich College where he was a pupil.

He particularly relishes the Conservative Party attack on the UKIP as “cranks and political gadflies”. In response, the UKIP has printed a set of ties with a “gadfly” logo. “All the UKIP MEPs will be members of the gadfly club,” he said.

One newly elected UKIP MEP, Ashley Mote, was deselected almost immediately, after it was discovered that he faces trial on allegations of housing benefit fraud.

But Mr Farage said that most of the controversy had been good for the party, particularly as most of the hierarchy were wealthy businessmen who could afford to speak their minds. “If there’s a common denominator of those who do well in UKIP, nearly all have run their own business,” said Mr Farage, who gave up a career as a commodities broker, where he earned three times as much as he does now.

“People like it when we speak out. We need to keep UKIP fresh. If we all became PC about keeping our noses clean until the next election, it would destroy us,” he said.
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Old August 20th, 2004   #2
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I can't see the UKIP getting into parliament, other than Europe what else are their policies? They are a one hit wonder.
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Old August 20th, 2004   #3
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The UKIP could prove very dangerous for White Nationalists though, in terms of electoral politics that is. Probably did more damage than the UAF mob.
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Old August 20th, 2004   #4
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The UKIP could prove very dangerous for White Nationalists though, in terms of electoral politics that is. Probably did more damage than the UAF mob.
I agree, UKIP just like in the recent local and Euro elections they took massive votes off the British National Party. Its a Trojan horse nothing more nothing less, a safety valve for the masses, an 'easy vote' to smooth the mind of the lemmings when real revolutionary action is now needed. Unless the UKIP is delt with and soon, this stalking horse will doom the White people in once Great Britain to utter extinction. While the UKIP is taking votes away from the BNP it doesn't have a cat of hells chance (the BNP) of winning any General Election, and thus ultimate power. That my friends is why the UKIP exists - its only reason.

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Old August 20th, 2004   #5
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I still think UKIP is a state run party and it is our NO 1 enemy! Every White Nationalist should be doing everything in there power to destabilise this party and destroy it.
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Old August 20th, 2004   #6
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What about Griffins links with that party ?
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Brayshaw supposedly resigned from the BNP. But he is on the 'top table' at last weekends BNP, Red White and Blue festival, pics on the main BNP website.

Is this like the 'false sacking' of Mark Collett a year or so ago ?

I would like Mr. Colletts sister to stand for the BNP . My God she is a stunner
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Old August 21st, 2004   #8
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This is how UKIP puts it what happend

Press Digest

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Thursday 5th February 2004

It may be of interest to UKIP members to know that we have over the past few days smashed an attempt by the BNP to penetrate UKIP and destabilise the party ahead of the European elections in June.

Many member will have received an anonymous letter yesterday which purports to come from our Birmingham head office. In fact, we believe this formed a part of the on-going BNP campaign. Please note that mail from Head Office will generally be franked and will not have a postage stamp attached. Further, UKIP correspondence will always be signed and never sent anonymously.

Similarly, for some time, a series of e-mails signed with the pseudonym 'Hamish Inglis' have been sent making defamatory claims about leading figures within UKIP. It tranpires that 'Hamish Inglis' is actually a front for a BNP operation designed to (a) harvest e-mail addresses of UKIP activists, (b) destabilise UKIP ahead of June's elections, and (c) influence the outcome of the on-going NEC elections. Implicated in this affair as a BNP plant is Andrew Edwards, former chairman of UKIP Bath, who was expelled from the Party last year.
In the past few days, it has come to light that a UKIP member in York, by the name of John Brayshaw, is a senior BNP official. Brayshaw joined the party only 2 months ago, and has today been expelled from UKIP. We should all be aware, however, that the BNP is likely to attempt this again, and therefore extra vigilance is urged upon UKIP members to help prevent this happening. You can be assured that where attempts at BNP infiltration are uncovered, UKIP will act swiftly to expel the person or persons concerned. The are no circumstances under which UKIP would deal or negotiate with the BNP or any other far-right party.

http://ukip.org/abc_news/gen12.php?t=1&id=336
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This is how UKIP puts it what happend

Press Digest

05-02-2004


Thursday 5th February 2004

It may be of interest to UKIP members to know that we have over the past few days smashed an attempt by the BNP to penetrate UKIP and destabilise the party ahead of the European elections in June.

Many member will have received an anonymous letter yesterday which purports to come from our Birmingham head office. In fact, we believe this formed a part of the on-going BNP campaign. Please note that mail from Head Office will generally be franked and will not have a postage stamp attached. Further, UKIP correspondence will always be signed and never sent anonymously.

Similarly, for some time, a series of e-mails signed with the pseudonym 'Hamish Inglis' have been sent making defamatory claims about leading figures within UKIP. It tranpires that 'Hamish Inglis' is actually a front for a BNP operation designed to (a) harvest e-mail addresses of UKIP activists, (b) destabilise UKIP ahead of June's elections, and (c) influence the outcome of the on-going NEC elections. Implicated in this affair as a BNP plant is Andrew Edwards, former chairman of UKIP Bath, who was expelled from the Party last year.
In the past few days, it has come to light that a UKIP member in York, by the name of John Brayshaw, is a senior BNP official. Brayshaw joined the party only 2 months ago, and has today been expelled from UKIP. We should all be aware, however, that the BNP is likely to attempt this again, and therefore extra vigilance is urged upon UKIP members to help prevent this happening. You can be assured that where attempts at BNP infiltration are uncovered, UKIP will act swiftly to expel the person or persons concerned. The are no circumstances under which UKIP would deal or negotiate with the BNP or any other far-right party.

http://ukip.org/abc_news/gen12.php?t=1&id=336
Good research Disciples! So, which Disciple are you?
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Old August 21st, 2004   #10
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Brayshaw supposedly resigned from the BNP. But he is on the 'top table' at last weekends BNP, Red White and Blue festival, pics on the main BNP website.

Is this like the 'false sacking' of Mark Collett a year or so ago ?

I would like Mr. Colletts sister to stand for the BNP . My God she is a stunner
I agree H A, Colletts sister is very good looking! I would much rather have people like her stand for the party than the current North West Regional Organiser.
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