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Old October 22nd, 2004   #181
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PM Hale hasn't even finished his fight, but already we've seen many 'leader's' in the Church run for the exit. With friends like these...

www.onepeoplesproject.com/lampman.pdf

We should all keep our fingers crossed for PM Hale on the 15th.
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Old October 22nd, 2004   #182
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PM Hale hasn't even finished his fight, but already we've seen many 'leader's' in the Church run for the exit. With friends like these...

www.onepeoplesproject.com/lampman.pdf

We should all keep our fingers crossed for PM Hale on the 15th.
Talk about kissing Jew Boots!

To her credit though, it sounded like she is young and the parents
had a lot to do with her re-canting... she'll be back!
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Old October 25th, 2004   #183
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Does it matter if its a check made to his father?
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Old October 26th, 2004   #184
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Does it matter if its a check made to his father?
I think that is preferable. Make it out to Russell Hale.

In spite of the fact that the sentencing hearing is right around the corner, I am sure Russell his father spent quite a bit helping his son, and Matt will be up the river at least for a spell. There he will be working on his appeal and I am sure any little bit people send in now will help and if nothing else he may be able to obtain some access to the comissary if he hasnt already.
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Old October 27th, 2004   #185
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I will send 5 bucks on Friday to his dad. I also did not approve of the WCOC. We should help him out just for the trouncing he gave that interviewer on national TV right before they grabbed him.
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Old November 4th, 2004   #186
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I will send 5 bucks on Friday to his dad. I also did not approve of the WCOC. We should help him out just for the trouncing he gave that interviewer on national TV right before they grabbed him.
"Mighty White of You" John as they say in Texas. That interviewer was none other than former Congressman John Kasich. He spanked him firmly. I will never forget this line: "maybe that is a bad thing according to your value system Mr Kasich, but we reject you and your value system." Just like that, opposition demolished.
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Old November 4th, 2004   #187
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Who will give $5 to Matt Hale's parents to help Matt Hale appeal? If you think he should rot in jail explain why. If you dont, will you pledge $5 to send to "Russell Hale 217 Randolph, East Peoria IL 61611."
I responded to this thread shortly after it was started simply by stating that yes, I would send 5 bucks (and I did the next day). I was reading these posts about Hale which I find very interesting and noticed that my little post aformentioned had been pulled or misplaced? and I just wanted to re-state my support for Matt Hale an intelligent wrongly-convicted white leader.
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Old November 4th, 2004   #188
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oops. Duh......now I see it is posted.
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Old November 5th, 2004   #189
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I pledged (in a PM to Rounder) to send what I could to Matt Hale's dad back when this was first posted and have been unable to keep that promise until now. My (embarrassingly small) contribution was sent out by mail this morning.
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Old November 22nd, 2004   #190
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Rounder stated here:

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=12305

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I spoke with Russell Hale, father of Matt Hale, this afternoon over the telephone.

Matt's sentencing has been postponed INDEFINATELY, pending a court ruling regarding Matt's case. And Matt still sits in his 8 x 10 foot cage, with nothing but a radio and reading material, inside a Chicago nigger infested jail. Russell has no idea when Matt's sentencing will take place, but that Matt had received some type of written communication from a judge which indicated (1) that the judge was convinced Matt is guilty, and (2) that life imprisonment was appropriate.

Matt is acting as his own attorney, but has a regular attorney appointed as his assistant.

Russell also said that Matt worked for months preparing court briefs, only to have them all rejected on the grounds they were filed too late. Russell said that Edgar Steele had reviewed the briefs, said they were excellent, and that he couldn't have prepared them any better.

Matt is in good physical condition and weighs his usual 140-145 lbs. He exercises regularly inside his cell, according to his dad. But Matt is receiving pitifully few letters from supporters.

I urge VNN'ers to write him at:

Matthew F. Hale #15177424
Metropolitan Correctional Center,
71 West Van Buren Street,
Chicago, Illinois 60605
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Old November 22nd, 2004   #191
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Hey, I just finished reading "White Man's Bible" and I never knew it before but Klassen seems to be kind of a whole foods Nazi warmed over. Does anybody else find that his he's kind of a granola nazi or should I keep going and read some of his other books and hope he gets relevant? If so can you recommend any of his books in particular? Thanks!
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Old November 22nd, 2004   #192
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I am not a whole foods / fruit and nuts kind of guy but Im pretty sure there are others here who can tell you about how hitler was a vegetarian and so forth. I have to wonder if Matt is being provided with appropriate fare to suit his religious beliefs in prison or are they just giving him the same slop as everybody else.
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Old November 23rd, 2004   #193
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When I first read The White Man's Bible some 7 years ago, I thought the fruitarian diet part seemed impossible to follow, but now I've been eating that way for over two years and I think it's great. I've gotten so used to it that it really surprised a lot of people, especially my family and co-workers, one of them thought I actually had the gastric bypass surgery to reduce my weight from the 280 lbs. that I was in July 2002. I'm a very fit 190 lbs now with a waistline about 10 inches thinner.

I read that for the first few weeks or so, Matt had to change his diet because they wouldn't feed him anything other than the shit they gave everyone else, but now he's allowed a diet that is more "salubrious" and is back to a healthier weight.

One of the things that's so great about The White Man's Bible and Nature's Eternal Religion is the way it's written. Some bold text, and then a few sentances bringing the point home. A book that thick would be difficult for many to read who don't have the time, and it's easy to just go through and read different points when you have the time. No wonder the kikenvermin had them banned.
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When I first read The White Man's Bible some 7 years ago, I thought the fruitarian diet part seemed impossible to follow, but now I've been eating that way for over two years and I think it's great. I've gotten so used to it that it really surprised a lot of people, especially my family and co-workers, one of them thought I actually had the gastric bypass surgery to reduce my weight from the 280 lbs. that I was in July 2002. I'm a very fit 190 lbs now with a waistline about 10 inches thinner.

I read that for the first few weeks or so, Matt had to change his diet because they wouldn't feed him anything other than the shit they gave everyone else, but now he's allowed a diet that is more "salubrious" and is back to a healthier weight.

One of the things that's so great about The White Man's Bible and Nature's Eternal Religion is the way it's written. Some bold text, and then a few sentances bringing the point home. A book that thick would be difficult for many to read who don't have the time, and it's easy to just go through and read different points when you have the time. No wonder the kikenvermin had them banned.
Do you think that's because he just keeps repeating himself over and over again or do you feel ther'e s another reason? If he REALLLY was a granola nazi couldn't he have just made his point in a coupla pages and then save teh trees?
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Do you think that's because he just keeps repeating himself over and over again or do you feel ther'e s another reason? If he REALLLY was a granola nazi couldn't he have just made his point in a coupla pages and then save teh trees?
I don't eat granola myself, and I believe that logging is an excellent way to thin the forests and prevent wildfires, but obviously you can draw your own conclusions based on what you think Klassen was all about. Here's his books so you can read them and better understand:

http://www.overthrow.com/creator/
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Old November 29th, 2004   #196
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I was reading the gleebe piece by nicole nichols and started looking around this citzens who hate website or whatever it is called. anybody know about this ?

http://citizensagainsthate.com/site/...rder=0&thold=0


You are reading it first here on CAH. Matthew Hale the Pontifex Maximus, (depending on who you talk to), of the Creativity Movement has been acquitted of Count 5 by Judge Moody. The really bad news for Hale is that ALL other charges stand. There will be no new hearings and no new trial. Apparently the Judge had a lot to say about why the other charges stick - 48 pages worth. And Tony Willow will bring that to us in its' entirety very soon! No new sentencing date has been set - and it won't be until, at least, December as the awaited Booker Supreme Court ruling will not be issued until then.
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Old December 2nd, 2004   #197
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You can also listen to all 63 broadcasts of Matt Hale's Show, "In Klassen We Trust" at...

http://www.creativityohio.com/ikwt.html

You can download many Creator books in PDF format at that site as well.

http://www.creativityohio.com/
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Old December 2nd, 2004   #198
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Can't get jetaudio to work on my puter ):
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You can also listen to all 63 broadcasts of Matt Hale's Show, "In Klassen We Trust" at...

http://www.creativityohio.com/ikwt.html

You can download many Creator books in PDF format at that site as well.

http://www.creativityohio.com/
I hate to be a stickler for detail, but is it just me or does the Rev. Mitchell Irwin look a little... off-color... to anyone else?

Maybe it's just my computer...
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anyone have information on the status of Matt Hale's sentencing.?
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