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Old April 2nd, 2008 #21
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This is also known as the Ku Klux Klan.
No, not at all. The Klan's semi-ideology, a mish mash of Christianity and Constitutionalism, is so alien to National Socialism as to be largely irreconcialiable.

The only reason for Klan and NS groups to work together is race and the fact that Klan is so void of ideology, even knowledge of its own Klan-ness, in general, that Klan activists can become good comrades.
 
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So what is your view of the claim alleged: that Strom was a major editor, if not in fact a ghost writer, of Duke's two in-print books: My Awakening and Jewish Supremacism?
I have not heard that previously alleged.

Duke's books are very derivative of other white nationalist works -- in fact, they are largely copied -- and contain several substantial errors, such as when he describes the coefficient of correlation as being the percentage which one variable accounts for another, and builds an argument around that, instead of taking the coefficient squared. Based on that, whoever wrote it was someone without a strong grasp of the material they were publishing.

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Is it really feasible to hold that the IHR is presently a Jewish front org?
I hold that Stormfront is a Jewish front group and Don Black dances seder while wearing a yamulke with Jared Taylor and his wife. I think that's feasible.

Look, its the AmRen conference:

 
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I have not heard that previously alleged.

Duke's books are very derivative of other white nationalist works -- in fact, they are largely copied -- and contain several substantial errors, such as when he describes the coefficient of correlation as being the percentage which one variable accounts for another, and builds an argument around that, instead of taking the coefficient squared. Based on that, whoever wrote it was someone without a strong grasp of the material they were publishing.



I hold that Stormfront is a Jewish front group and Don Black dances seder while wearing a yamulke with Jared Taylor and his wife. I think that's feasible.

Look, its the AmRen conference:



Bill, you Jew cocksucker, David Duke is ten times the writer that Strom is or ever was. Strom had jack shit to do with either book.

You win though Bill, I've given up, I really no longer give a fuck how many people you fool and deceive; I've stuck around here for far too long in an effort to convince as many people as possible that you're a no good motherfucking liar and provocateur, and sadly, most are unreceptive to good sense.

In any case, with the exception of one or two more posts, to tidy things up, this will be my last VNN post and/or comment directed at you.

I hope you're dragged out of bed by your sponsors in the near future and dispatched with the utmost prejudice.
 
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Just put "the Commander" and the entire ANSWP membership (all 4 of them) on ignore, dude.

Works just fine.
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Bill, you Jew cocksucker, David Duke is ten times the writer that Strom is or ever was. Strom had jack shit to do with either book.

You win though Bill, I've given up, I really no longer give a fuck how many people you fool and deceive; I've stuck around here for far too long in an effort to convince as many people as possible that you're a no good motherfucking liar and provocateur, and sadly, most are unreceptive to good sense.

In any case, with the exception of one or two more posts, to tidy things up, this will be my last VNN post and/or comment directed at you.

I hope you're dragged out of bed by your sponsors in the near future and dispatched with the utmost prejudice.
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David Duke is ten times the writer that Strom is or ever was. Strom had jack shit to do with either book.
Uhm... David has always been pretty open about Kevin's involvement with both of the books.
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Old April 3rd, 2008 #28
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William Pierce, founder and leader of the National Alliance, held Willis Carto in contempt. In an essay published in the July 1995 issue of the Alliance's internal Bulletin, Pierce explains why:


An Ethical Question

Several recent issues of Spotlight, a weekly tabloid for patriotic-conservative readers which is published in Washington, DC, have carried direct and indirect attacks on me, alleging that I am an enemy agent of some sort. Specifically, the Spotlight hinted a couple of months ago that I am an "FBI asset," and in the July 17 issue it expressed the belief that I am a "government ringer — probably an FBI informant."

These attacks are a renewal of a 24-year-old campaign of defamation against me by Spotlight's owner, Willis Carto. The campaign began in 1971, shortly after I founded the National Youth Alliance. At that time I was being helped by a former employee of Carto's, Louis Byers, and Carto thought it prudent to destroy the fledgling organization rather than let is grow into a competitor. He was concerned that Byers would teach me the fund-raising techniques learned while in Carto's employ and would help me enlist some of Carto's financial supporters as supporters for the National Youth Alliance.

The recent outburst of libels in Spotlight is in response to the informal relationship which exists between the Alliance and the Institute for Historical Review/ Noontide Press, with which Carto was affiliated until his ouster a couple of years ago: National Vanguard sells a number of books published by the IHR and Noontide Press, and Noontide Press advertises one book (my Gun Control in Germany, 1938-1945) published by us. Carto has been engaged in an extremely bitter fight with IHR/Noontide Press ever since he was given the boot, and his tactic is to attack anyone he regards as an ally of his enemy.

Now, there are honest disagreements aplenty among persons who are opposed to the present government in Washington and its policies, and all too often these disagreements lead to public fights. The Alliance's ideology and/or policies are different from those of many individuals and organizations with whom we maintain friendly liaison or even collaborate actively. In such cases we try to keep our differences out of the way and focus on the things which can be mutually beneficial, and we have been able to avoid public fights.

The attacks on me by Carto are not the result of any honest disagreement. They are conscious, deliberate, and unprovoked lies. Carto uses lies as a tactic in fighting those he perceives as enemies, as well as in attracting donations from those who support him.

It has been said, "All's fair in love and war," and indeed most of us feel no obligation to be truthful in dealing with those who are trying to destroy our race. If a lie will gain us an advantage in this war, then we feel obliged to lie. Deceiving an enemy in time of war never has been regarded as reprehensible. At the same time, however, most of us believe that lying in other circumstances — merely to gain a personal advantage, for example — is dishonorable.

Where does one draw the line between justifiable and unjustifiable lying? Carto could say that his lies about me are justified, because he is fighting for the survival of his various enterprises, including Spotlight, and Spotlight is an important asset in the war against America's enemies. He could even justify the lies in Spotlight intended to bring in large donations from its readers in the same way: fooling suckers in order to get donations from them is justified, as long as the donations are used for a good purpose, such as publishing more issues of Spotlight.

This sort of justification is troubling. More troubling are the people who don't even worry about justifications. Carto may be a crook, they say, but he is doing good, and so we should not speak ill of him. And, to give the devil his due, Carto has done some good things. He was the principal mover in launching the IHR 17 years ago, for example, even though he now stands accused by the IHR's directors of embezzling more than $7,000,000 in IHR funds and may end up in prison on that charge. When he was kicked out of the IHR, he used his money to launch a competing revisionist publication, The Barnes Review, which is an admirable little magazine.

Spotlight, Carto's principal asset, is not one of the good things he has done. Its appeal is primarily to elderly cranks — and to a certain number of younger cranks as well. It caters to the credulous and the naive, to readers who like to be titillated with what is billed as "inside" information about the "Conspiracy." It has carried numerous articles about miraculous cancer cures suppressed by the greedy medical establishment, about miraculous energy sources suppressed by the greedy oil companies, and about miraculous schemes for keeping one's savings away from the greedy Internal Revenue Service. It always has had a low regard for the truth and a sure instinct for the issues that would make elderly, conspiracy-minded conservatives reach for their checkbooks.

Despite its National Enquirer flavor — or perhaps because of that — Spotlight has become the most widely read periodical in the conservative, anti-government camp. That fact does not speak well for the powers of discrimination of the anti-government forces. Fortunately, not many Alliance members are Spotlight readers. Nevertheless, some are, and so the case of Willis Carto serves as a relevant illustration of the ethical question with which we should be concerned: Should lying of the sort in which Carto engages be tolerated or forgiven, because he is approximately on "our side"? More generally, should behavior of the sort which would not be tolerated by honorable men in a civilized society be tolerated under our present circumstances?

I believe that it should not. I put a short section in our Membership Handbook about the amoral person. I believe that most members agree with me on this question in a general way. Nevertheless, I have seen too many examples of amoral behavior on the part of people who claim to be on "our side" — and not just Carto. There seems to be a feeling that because our society is falling apart all the bonds of right behavior have been loosened, and that we aren't obliged to judge people by the same strict standards which prevailed a century ago. We see so much crookedness on the part of politicians, bureaucrats, and the media today that our moral sense becomes numbed.
Right behavior did not develop among our people simply for its own sake or for religious reasons. It developed because it was conducive to our survival and progress as a people. Among our ancestors, long before Christianity, thieves and liars were not tolerated, because lying and stealing destroyed the bond of trust between neighbors which was necessary for a strong community. Communities which tolerated such behavior perished, and those which did not survived and prospered, on the average. That's how we developed our sense of right behavior in the first place.

If we are to continue building an Alliance strong enough to overcome its enemies, we must not tolerate anyone among us who lies or steals, either in time of peace or in time of war.
 
Old April 3rd, 2008 #29
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Uhm... David has always been pretty open about Kevin's involvement with both of the books.
Again, melcur is ranting loonily along.
 
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Carto came to believe Pierce was an informant because Pierce collaborated against Carto with people who may have been informants -- or may have just been assholes.

However, I agree, Carto has published a lot of stuff attacking people which has not been adequately explained and which has come off as a bit fruity.
 
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I just read that statement by Pierce on Carto in some detail, and in it, Pierce makes several statements that are untrue:

First, William Pierce did not found the National Youth Alliance. Willis Carto founded the National Youth Alliance as "Youth for Wallace" in 1968. At the time, William Pierce was part of Matt Koehl's National Socialist White People's Party.

Willis Carto was expelled from the National Youth Allliance, the organization he founded and financed, by white conservatives he recruited because he was "racist" and "anti-Semitic." William Pierce allied himself with these anti-racists after he was expelled from the NSWPP and seized control of the grouup.

Willis Carto sued the National Youth Alliance for stealing a large sum of money from him -- really, I think Willis loaned the money to the group and the group, after expelling Willis, refused to repay it -- and won, banrkupting the new leadership. This is why Pierce was forced to close the National Youth Alliance and start the National Alliance.

Second, Carto did not embezzle from Mark Weber and the IHR. Mark Weber and the IHR embezzled from Carto, by taking money that was intended to be left to Carto, but which was being laundered through organizations which Weber and others seized control of, and stopping the money when it came into their hands. The money should never have been laundered in the first place and it probably serves everybody right, but the intent of the giver to give the money to Carto was thwarted; even the court found that in its ruling.

Now, as to Pierce being an "FBI asset", I don't have any evidence of that. Carto believed the FBI infiltrated the National Youth Alliance and shut it down; because Pierce was involved, Carto believed Pierce was FBI. I don't see any good evidence of that at this point.

However, the argument that Mark Weber worked, at one point in his life, for the CIA is much stronger and more interesting. Weber, by his own account, was in Ghana in 1969 on behalf of the US Information Agency. The US Information Agency is the same group that sent David Horowitz to Nicaragua in 1984 to teach "media skills" to "labor unions", i.e., to support the Contra insurgency. It is an organization often used as a cover for the Central Intelligence Agency. So, that is suspicious, but not determinative.

Allegedly, after returning to the US, Weber took a job at a DC hotel that caters almost exclusively to African diplomats. Again, interesting, but not determinative.

What I find very strange is that Weber, while in Africa, claims to have met Jared Taylor wandering through the desert, and then nursed him back to health. Taylor's wife, Evelyn Rich, is a professional anti-racist with overt and public ties to the Anti-Defamation League; in 1985, she secretly recorded tapes of David Duke for the ADL and turned those tapes over to them, leading to their release to the mass media.

The whole Weber-Taylor thing stinks, as does American Renaissance and Stormfront's support for it. My only question is how deep does this stuff go, and how many of the enemies we have in the movement are involved. We know about the pedophilia clique; we have this weird Taylor-Weber alliance; we have the links and ties between Taylor, Weber, Black, Duke, Kelso and the rest; what are the real conspiracies between them?
 
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Bill White leaves me perplexed. There is probably no greater National Socialist by temperament and worldview than I but if I were to start a political movement, I wouldn’t dress up in mismatched German uniforms from another era. I wouldn’t dress up in any uniforms. Period. I wouldn’t have “National Socialist” figure in my movement’s name and I wouldn’t be talking about the Third Reich or Adolf Hitler...ever. This leads me to believe that Bill White is probably not a serious individual. Only Alex Linder knows why Bill White merits his attention.

As to his review of a biogrophy of Willis Carto, every single W.N. leader in the U.S. is dismissed by White as a homosexual, a pedophile, a drug-addict or a thief. This comes from someone who runs around the U.S. dressed up like he’s in 1920’s Germany. He also publically claimed to have the ear of Ron Paul and his advisors. Is Bill White for real?



What to make of this individual? The first thought that comes to mind is that anyone who like to dress like that is probably mentally unstable. Incidentally, I believe that the guy with glasses besides him is Michael Blevins, who has spent time in a psychiatric institution.

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I'd like to see documentation of the claims made against Evelyn Rich.
 
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It's all interesting stuff, as far as I'm concerned. I don't necessarily believe anything. Not without verification.

Like most people WN tend to overreact to everything.

I won't aim this at anybody in particular, but let me tell you that there is no way in hell dumb, redneck, paranoid Klansmen will every make an ounce of political change in this country.

Keep in mind that I have nothing against dumb, redneck paranoid Klansmen. I'm on their side.

The levels of hysteria around here are pathetic, especially when they come from seemingly intelligent people.

VNN has always been for non-cultists, and increasingly I see that at the least a very large minority of those in WN cannot tolerate any disagreement whatsoever. VNN will always be uncomfortable for these people because it will never be an echo chamber. Accept that or depart and don't worry about us.
 
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No, F.W. Braun. Bill White is NOT for real. Unless, of course, you're looking for a "kosher" D.J. at a bar mitzvah.

He can pass that smell test.

When does "Commander" White have time to actually build a viable National Socialist organization? Has this guy ever posted a thread on how he plans to actually GROW the A.N.S.W.P.??? I've never seen one.

I don't claim to know what Bill White IS.

I do, however, know what he is NOT.

He's not a White Nationalist, and he's not a National Socialist. Cross those two off the list.
 
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Found this on the web.. If the ANSWP plans a book burning, I suggest you throw this first on top of the pyre.

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Carto 'Takes the Fifth' In Lawsuit About Missing Bequest Funds

In September 1993 the Institute for Historical Review terminated its long-standing relationship with Willis Carto -- founder and head of the Washington, DC-based Liberty Lobby organization. Since then, Carto has been waging a frantic propaganda campaign against the IHR and those associated with it. In the classic "Big Lie" tradition, nearly every week he hurls new attacks in the pages of The Spotlight, the weekly tabloid paper he controls.

In addition to spiteful personal attacks against IHR staff members, Carto above all puts out the lie that the IHR has been "taken over" and is now "controlled" by the Zionist Anti-Defamation League. He is trying to bankrupt the IHR by destroying the trust and confidence of its supporters.

Millions Vanish
What's behind this mad campaign?

Carto acts with the desperation of a man who fears that his furtive past is now coming to light. He is particularly afraid of being called to account because he -- together with his wife, Elisabeth, and a close crony named Henry Fischer -- illicitly diverted millions of dollars that lawfully belong to the IHR and its parent corporation, Legion for the Survival of Freedom, Inc.

At issue is the estate of Jean Farrel, a descendant of inventor Thomas Edison who died in Switzerland in August 1985. For several years prior to her death, she was one of the IHR's most generous supporters. At a meeting in March 1984, Farrel explained to IHR Director Thomas Marcellus that she intended to leave her estate -- which included stock certificates, unset diamonds and gold coins -- to further the work of the IHR. Acting as agent for the Legion, Carto in Lausanne, Switzerland, on July 17, 1990, signed legal papers, including a "Distribution Agreement," that specified that more than seven million dollars of the Farrel estate were to go to the Legion.

All the available evidence, including Swiss court documents, makes clear that the Farrel estate money was meant for the IHR/Legion. But Carto took measures -- even fabricating minutes of corporate board meetings that never took place -- to grab control of this fortune for his own uses. Betraying Jean Farrel's wishes, he allowed only a small fraction of her estate to reach the IHR in the form of a "loan."

In January 1991, Carto arranged for Henry Fischer to be given legal power of attorney "to take all legal and practical measures which may be required to secure and expedite the lawful portion of the estate of Jean Farrel ..." Documentary evidence, as well as Carto's own testimony, confirms that he has transferred enormous sums of IHR/Legion money to Liberty Lobby (which Carto controls, and from which he draws a salary).

Carto's secretive disposal of this money, with no accountability, is an arrogant betrayal of the trust of numerous men and women who have generously supported the IHR over the years.

'Fifth Amendment' Willy
Those of us who are responsible for IHR/Legion operations have both a legal and an ethical obligation to account for the money seized by Carto and his accomplices -- a legacy that was meant to further the Institute's work. Accordingly, on July 22 we brought a multi-million dollar lawsuit -- Legion vs. Carto, Fischer, Liberty Lobby, et al. -- to recover the diverted Farrel estate funds.

In this lawsuit, Carto and his wife are "taking the Fifth," categorically refusing to answer any questions on the grounds that their answers might be self-incriminating. What do the Cartos have to hide?

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I'd like to see documentation of the claims made against Evelyn Rich.

I can't prove she is a Jew. The fact she supports AmRen and the Jews that go with it is enough in my book to certify her as an "anti".

A cursory check of her name use and she uses her maiden name in some cases today. I probably could find more if I was willing to pay for it. Not proof she is a Jew of course but strong evidence she is under the feminist ideology.

I have personally saw Don Black state in his Sustaining Member lounge he is good personal friends with both Jared and Evelyn and took offense by a former SF member attacking her and hell banned that member. Black further went on to say he has been to the Taylor household on several occasions on social visits. As Black has presided over SF's morphing from a WN forum to a castrated sissified gabfest it is my opinion that Jared and Evelyn have influenced to some extent this about face in tone. Not proof, just my opinion.

Her thesis written about the Klan and David Duke is good enough to be quoted as reference material for some group called http://www.holocaustsurvivors.org/cg...s&ke=3#authbio

Again, not proof she is a Jew, just that she is not for the White race.
 
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Well I'd have to say that with this post John Ryan has (if such is indeed possible) approximately closed the circle on this rather convoluted story of the [mis]adventures of Mr. Willis Carto over the last several decades.

As an earlier poster commented: "who are you going to trust: Dr. Pierce or Willis Carto?"

I think we are still left with that fundamental question, but the known history may at least help a bit with understanding it.

There has to be a lot of irony in the facts of the demise of the National Alliance when we hear the good Doctor speaking on the YouTube clip. As he relates the destruction of the Aryan Nations and the Church of the Creator, we can but wince at the knowledge that his own failure to provide for a successor in leadership of the Alliance resulted in its similar fate.

But Doctor Pierce's transcribed remarks on Willis Carto definitely turn the spotlight (if you will) on the theories of George Michael's new biography "Willis Carto and the American Far Right" (assuming the reviewer's accuracy.)

Without any doubt there was never a time of good and cozy relations between Pierce and Carto. The exact origins of the National Youth Alliance are unclear, but it is known that Revilo Oliver was involved as was Pierce as he moved from Rockwell's org to the National Youth Alliance. That there was a squabble and a dustup over the heading up of that org seems clear, as does the fact that Pierce ultimately emerged with the spoils (as it were). As the dust settled over the succeeding years, the hard feelings apparently remained even if the protagonists for the most part steered their separate courses. To my knowledge there has never been claimed any involvement by Pierce and his group in the controversy over the IHR and the Legion for the Survival of Freedom. (Until reading this review I was also unaware of any particular closeness between Mark Weber and Jared Taylor.)

By 1995 we have the episode of Pierce "confronting" Carto over the Spotlight pieces with the remarks transcribed here.

By 2004, however, we have Dr. Pierce's erstwhile Lieutenant, Kevin Strom, appearing on the dais with Duke, Kelso, Black, Carto and others (with the eventual "heirs" to the NA noticeably absent) happily signing on to the "new Orleans Protocol" while pointedly ignoring all of his own very direct (and possibly even significant) earlier criticisms of Carto.

The subject of the introduction to Imperium must rate its own paragraph. The Noontide Press edition of Francis Parker Yockey's masterpiece is prefaced with a lengthy, profound, and ultimately exquisitely well-written introduction to which is affixed the name of Willis Carto. Now whether Carto is the actual author of the introduction is, in and of itself, is of no great consequence. There is nothing particularly dishonest in having a piece ghost written; the question only arises when (or if) the literary pedigree is under scrutiny. In the person of Mr. Kevin Alfred Strom the literary pedigree of the introduction to the Noontide Press edition of Imperium came under particularly close scrutiny. Strom has both spoken and written to the effect that the true author of the introduction to Imperium is none other than Revilo P. Oliver. According to Strom Dr. Oliver was not disposed to claim authorship for a number of personal reasons not the least of which was a general professional disinclination to associate his name with any writing which had been in the slightest edited or otherwise altered from the precise original form that he had personally given it. Apparently, in his very prolific career Dr. Oliver wrote many, many pieces that were either given pen-name authorship or were credited to other authors. Dr. Oliver had no disagreement or concern with Carto's name as the author and so the matter rested. Strom has analyzed the matter in considerable detail, so I'll not repeat those discussions here, although I find it obvious that the Introduction to Imperium represents a level of writing and scholarly thinking that I have never found in any other writings attributed to Willis Carto. At the same time, the literary style, vocabulary, and weltanschauung consistent throughout the lengthy Introduction is entirely and completely consonant with the writings of RPO.
Several facts can be adduced from the foregoing. 1) Without any doubt Willis Carto knows the true identity of the author of the Introduction, 2) Strom has claimed that Oliver, not Carto, is the author. 3) both Oliver (in his lifetime) and Carto have been content to not further address the matter.

At Duke's 2004 love fest Duke himself, in introducing Carto, pointedly made high-praise reference to Carto as the author of the Introduction. These kudos were made with KAS present and sitting on the dais, apparently offered as an "in-your-face" challenge to anyone interested in the facts of the matter as a demonstration of the newfound "spirit of cooperation" being peddled. Carto took no exception. Strom took no exception. No one else in the whole damned world apparently took any exception. Not even Mark Weber of the IHR - whose org and self were a primery target of the EURO marginalization effort - deemed it worthwhile to involve himself in the conversation. So it appears, at least initially, that the idea was to "rehabilitate" Carto (who seemed delighted to have been welcomed back into the Duke universe), stifle the anti-Carto message that Strom had carried as the student of both Oliver and Pierce (both conveniently dead and unable to vouch for their own interests), and challenge anyone interested in sorting the question out with a "don't confuse us with the facts" dose of hubris. And so it seemed to work out...

Additional consideration may well lead one to a rather different conclusion.

In setting up his "big tent" event Dr. Duke had no problem giving a figurative bum's rush to a goodly number of erstwhile White Nationalists. Not only were the leaders-to-be of the NA excluded (to be sure by their own wishes), but many others were also distinguished by their absence. It seems that the main intent in bringing Carto back aboard was to push Weber aside, and that this particular pogrom was aided and abetted by Strom. Duke's subsequent adventures at the AMREN conference and his seeming banishment by Jared Taylor made good theater, but it also seems to belie the conclusions of Bill White (and perhaps George Michael as well) that the entire aggregation in and around the 2004 EURO fest is a quasi-monolithic jew-front operation. If Taylor lets the juden in and protects them while Duke baits them in their faces, then where does this leave (for example) Mark Weber, Matt Hale, and Willis Carto himself?

Although it must be powerfully interested, I really don'y see the hand of the jew here at all. Rather, I see the greedy and opportunistic hand of a venal and calculating White Nationalist bourgeoisie working to ensure maximum profitability and insularity. Carto simply cannot be excluded; his history is entirely too long, too replete with attacks on others, and too similar to so many other "leaders of the movement." He is no more the good guy, or the "one true National Socialist" than any of the rest of these fine White leaders.
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Bill White leaves me perplexed. There is probably no greater National Socialist by temperament and worldview than I but if I were to start a political movement, I wouldn’t dress up in mismatched German uniforms from another era. I wouldn’t dress up in any uniforms. Period. I wouldn’t have “National Socialist” figure in my movement’s name and I wouldn’t be talking about the Third Reich or Adolf Hitler...ever. This leads me to believe that Bill White is probably not a serious individual. Only Alex Linder knows why Bill White merits his attention.

As to his review of a biogrophy of Willis Carto, every single W.N. leader in the U.S. is dismissed by White as a homosexual, a pedophile, a drug-addict or a thief. This comes from someone who runs around the U.S. dressed up like he’s in 1920’s Germany. He also publically claimed to have the ear of Ron Paul and his advisors. Is Bill White for real?



What to make of this individual? The first thought that comes to mind is that anyone who like to dress like that is probably mentally unstable. Incidentally, I believe that the guy with glasses besides him is Michael Blevins, who has spent time in a psychiatric institution.
Wow, Blevins. You could be Neal's brother! Good job on getting your facts straight, oh faceless voice of the internet! If this isn't an anti, I'll be shocked.
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Originally Posted by Alex Linder View Post

The levels of hysteria around here are pathetic, especially when they come from seemingly intelligent people.

VNN has always been for non-cultists, and increasingly I see that at the least a very large minority of those in WN cannot tolerate any disagreement whatsoever. VNN will always be uncomfortable for these people because it will never be an echo chamber.

As always, genius is succinct.

Which outcome of which pitched battle (or hissy-fit?) has best advanced the interests of White People?
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