Searchlight Spies

[andy]

Originally Posted by Reinhard

This ties in with what I have said may prove to be the case when the State decides the time has come to shut down their EDL/MarchforEngland etc. stooges, once the naive footsoldiers get the '3am knock' and are subsequently offered a deal they will sing like a canary I'm sure many on here are familiar with those who seem to hold the most 'extreme' views, these people invariably adopt such a stance as a subconscious defence of accusations against their being informants/agent provocateurs.

There are also many loud mouths who, because of their own feelings of inadequacy want to play 'the big man' and are always on the hunt for new friends/gossip, needless to say, don't touch these types with a barge pole!

Balanced with that must be consideration for the "yobbos" as it were.Who are offered up by "politicals" as soon as something dangerous happens.I know that politicals will sell out operatives to protect their "political masters".Most "yobbos" are considered stupid,useless mouths by the "politicals".Collateral damage to be cut loose and offered up at the drop of the hat.Often this is done on the say so of the very leader via his cut out informants to the security services.
Sometimes though the "yobbos" are cleverer than the average "politicals" and the opposite happens.I know I am one of those "yobbos"
This balance is why it needs experienced pro active disciplined operatives to run a counter intelligence operation for a radical political party.It needs to be someone with experience an analytical mind and the ability to assess and interpret threats and dangers correctly.It also requires someone of integrity who has a remit for independent action on their own recogniscance.In fact aside for emergencies and a regular weekly meeting the leadership should have no contact with the Intelligence Department of a radical political party

[Joe Owens]

Originally Posted by andy

Well this Reynolds bloke needs to get his arse in gear,lets see some evidence of pre emptive security work.It would be a change to see some expulsions before something happens rather than after the bull has run.

Reynolds is only good at picking things up and putting them down. But useless when it comes to thinking. So forget him.

[Joe Owens]

Originally Posted by andy

Balanced with that must be consideration for the "yobbos" as it were.Who are offered up by "politicals" as soon as something dangerous happens.I know that politicals will sell out operatives to protect their "political masters".Most "yobbos" are considered stupid,useless mouths by the "politicals".Collateral damage to be cut loose and offered up at the drop of the hat.Often this is done on the say so of the very leader via his cut out informants to the security services.
Sometimes though the "yobbos" are cleverer than the average "politicals" and the opposite happens.I know I am one of those "yobbos"
This balance is why it needs experienced pro active disciplined operatives to run a counter intelligence operation for a radical political party.It needs to be someone with experience an analytical mind and the ability to assess and interpret threats and dangers correctly.It also requires someone of integrity who has a remit for independent action on their own recogniscance.In fact aside for emergencies and a regular weekly meeting the leadership should have no contact with the Intelligence Department of a radical political party

I have already exposed their Modus Operendi, but no - one is listening.

[Reinhard]

As we are no doubt referring to the BNP, I'd imagine that information of a sensitive nature would be kept within the inner circle, unfortunately most of the wrong 'uns seem to be within this inner circle so I echo what andy mentioned about an intelligence dept. seperate from the politicos with strict vetting and also without their identity being revealed.

[Joe Owens]

Originally Posted by Reinhard

As we are no doubt referring to the BNP, I'd imagine that information of a sensitive nature would be kept within the inner circle, unfortunately most of the wrong 'uns seem to be within this inner circle so I echo what andy mentioned about an intelligence dept. seperate from the politicos with strict vetting and also without their identity being revealed.

It's people like Peter Molloy who join and try to embroil the bnp in confrontation. This is what the bnp need guarding against.

[Charlie-Boy]

Originally Posted by Joe Owens

Reynolds is only good at picking things up and putting them down. But useless when it comes to thinking. So forget him.

Visual deterrent Joey.

[Charlie-Boy]

Originally Posted by Joe Owens

It's people like Peter Molloy who join and try to embroil the bnp in confrontation. This is what the bnp need guarding against.

He might get that confrontation here, the left seem to be turning up the gas in the North East.

[Martin McGhee]

Originally Posted by Charlie-Boy

He might get that confrontation here, the left seem to be turning up the gas in the North East.

Molloy was stirring it up in Liverpool too.

[Joe Owens]

Sorry, if i read your message wrong.

[fyc]

as far as spies go in the bnp, you have to look at what the left / searchlight want to achieve. as the general election comes up, their aim is to stop people getting elected in certain areas where there's a chance we might just pull off a shock. that's where most of their energies are currently focused. these branches will have the most infiltration in them. searchlight will also have someone high up in the loop to keep them informed about whats really going on behind the scenes. i wouldn't doubt for one minute that they already had the bnp membership lists before it was published online.

[Joe Owens]

Originally Posted by fyc

as far as spies go in the bnp, you have to look at what the left / searchlight want to achieve. as the general election comes up, their aim is to stop people getting elected in certain areas where there's a chance we might just pull off a shock. that's where most of their energies are currently focused. these branches will have the most infiltration in them. searchlight will also have someone high up in the loop to keep them informed about whats really going on behind the scenes. i wouldn't doubt for one minute that they already had the bnp membership lists before it was published online.

All they have to do is stand as a parliamentary candidate (anywhere) and be arrested for something serious. This will then hit the headlines and reflect badly on those standing elsewhere. Yes, of course the charges will be dropped after the election. Because anyone who seems to be arrested on gun and explosive charges are treated like victims and not the state agents they are. Anyway, let’s just wait and see.

[Joe Owens]

Adam Walkers hearing has been going on since Feb/March 2007, and each time there is a hearing (or postponed one) adverse press is given to the bnp. This is being deliberately dragged on for as long as possible in the hope of damaging bnp. He's (with Peter Molloy) doing this very subtlety under the cover of super activism.

Peter Tierney is another one. No sooner had Tierney arrived on the scene he was being stopped and raided by armed police. Christ, never known so many dangerous criminals in the bnp. Strange I never got stopped or raided for guns when I was Merseyside organiser.

http://bnp.org.uk/2008/12/illiterate...ation-attempt/

Once again, their super activism is their cover.

The policeman sacked for being in the bnp was out on his arse within five months. How long has Walkers hearing been going? Exactly.


The alleged incident, in which he is said to have criticised Muslims, homosexuals and asylum seekers, is said to have happened between February and March 2007.

Police officers, some wearing riot gear, were deployed outside the previous hearing after dozens of BNP supporters and anti-fascist activists gathered in Birmingham's Victoria Square outside the offices of the GTC.

Mr Walker’s brother, Mark, lost an appeal against his sacking from Sunnydale College, Shildon, County Durham. Mark Walker, also a technology teacher, is accused of accessing the BNP's website during school hours. Sunnydale Board of Governors upheld a decision to terminate his contract owing to ill health.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lif...cle5701277.ece

[Martin McGhee]

Originally Posted by Joe Owens

Adam Walkers hearing has been going on since Feb/March 2007, and each time there is a hearing (or postponed one) adverse press is given to the bnp. This is being deliberately dragged on for as long as possible in the hope of damaging bnp. He's (with Peter Molloy) doing this very subtlety under the cover of super activism.

Peter Tierney is another one. No sooner had Tierney arrived on the scene he was being stopped and raided by armed police. Christ, never known so many dangerous criminals in the bnp. Strange I never got stopped or raided for guns when I was Merseyside organiser.

http://bnp.org.uk/2008/12/illiterate...ation-attempt/

Once again, their super activism is their cover.

The policeman sacked for being in the bnp was out on his arse within five months. How long has Walkers hearing been going? Exactly.


The alleged incident, in which he is said to have criticised Muslims, homosexuals and asylum seekers, is said to have happened between February and March 2007.

Police officers, some wearing riot gear, were deployed outside the previous hearing after dozens of BNP supporters and anti-fascist activists gathered in Birmingham's Victoria Square outside the offices of the GTC.

Mr Walker’s brother, Mark, lost an appeal against his sacking from Sunnydale College, Shildon, County Durham. Mark Walker, also a technology teacher, is accused of accessing the BNP's website during school hours. Sunnydale Board of Governors upheld a decision to terminate his contract owing to ill health.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lif...cle5701277.ece

Yes, there is no way the case with Walker would have dragged on this long. Two years is a ridiculously long time.

The Police Officer sacked in 5 months also backs this up. He was obviously not a spy as he was exposed by another spy.

With regards to Tierney, has anyone heard what happened in court, as newspaper reports stated he was due in the Crown on 29th October? I've never seen armed response turn up to stop a leafleter, infact I've never seen armed response attend a nightclub brawl involving dozens of men!

[Joe Owens]

Is Walker still on full pay?

[Granville Halliwell]

Theres a lot of allegations being thrown about here, with not much evidence, its getting like NWN

[Joe Owens]

Originally Posted by Granville Halliwell

Theres a lot of allegations being thrown about here, with not much evidence, its getting like NWN

The evidence is there if you open your eyes.

[Joe Owens]

Originally Posted by Granville Halliwell

Theres a lot of allegations being thrown about here, with not much evidence, its getting like NWN

Ridiculous time span for hearing.

Association with Peter Molloy.

Constant confrontational paper sales being videoed (with Molloy).

Phoning Gerry Gable up and videoing it for street cred.

Ghurkha leaflet just happens to turn up where Walker and Molloy are.

A UAF meeting being infiltrated and recorded, with Walker being topic of red discussion (more for street cred).

[Bev]

I'm offering no opinion on this, just putting forward a possible explanation that's been sent to me. I won't say by who, but it's not the Walker brothers or Pete Molloy.

1) "ridiculous time span for hearing". AW's rep, Pat Harrington, has argued over every point and questioned every move the GTC has made, hence recent pronouncements by the GTC over the right of BNP members to teach despite political pressure from labour's Ed Balls and the trade unions. One of the hearings was taken up with discussing the suitability of a member of NUT to sit on the tribunal. The last planned hearing was postponed because of tensions in Birmingham following the EDL/UAF clashes.... Read more

2) "Association with PM". The latters girlfriend lives in the North East after they met at a BNP day of action elsewhere in the country.

3) "Confrontational paper sales". In my experience most, if not all, paper sales are confrontational. Some more than others depending on the location. Newcastle city centre in the NE is a tricky place to hold a paper sale. During the EU campaign, a confrontation ensued in Morpeth in Northumberland (of all places) with some local students. Neither AW nor PM were present!

4) I don't know about the GG phoning incident, but it sounds like the neverending piss-taking the crowd around AW, etc, indulge in.

5)Ghurkha leaflet forgery. The NE has the only publicily funded 'anti-fascist' group in the country, TWAFA. It is run from the Unison offices in Newcastle Civic Centre by a Unison shop stewar called Paul Gibson. In ... Read morethe past, one of their signature attempts at disruption has been spoof and fake BNP (and 'white nationalist') newsletters sent to BNP candidates and sympathisers. They even sent them to people who signed BNP election forms! It is based on the FBI's COINTELPRO disrution programme. Read the Wikipedia article on this if you are unaware of the techniques used to cause disruption, suspicion and ill-feeling. Th Ghurkha leaflet was a trade mark TWAFA-led operation. A Searchlight-supporting NE Labour MP, Phil Wilson, even joined in the fuss the Sun newsaper made!

6) The UAF meeting that was infiltrated and recorded. This had nothing to do with either AW or PM. They had no idea it was happening, plus the whole meeting was recorded, not just the speech by that NUT red. Moreover, the he was exposed was for reasons relating to his activities against a BNP school governor in Newcastle.

[Bev]

Originally Posted by Charlie-Boy

He might get that confrontation here, the left seem to be turning up the gas in the North East.

Only just clocked this post. What are they up to round your way, Charlie? It seems they're turning it up in all regions since the MEP's.

[Walter]

Never a day seems to go by without someone being branded a Searchlight spy.
All you have to do is get nicked, or abused by reds and your a Searchlight spy.
Because obviously you would have set out to be abused or nicked.

Now added to add to that list, if you lose your job because of your involvement with the BNP, your a Searchlight spy.