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Old January 2nd, 2010 #1
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Peter Hitchens exposes CONservative fraud David Cameron:

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When I say David Cameron is a soppy liberal, and that the Tories are essentially the same as the other two anti-British parties, many of you get angry with me.

Will you believe it when your beloved Mr Cameron says so himself? I quote from his New Year message: ‘Let’s at least recognise the good intentions of our opponents.

Let’s be honest that whether you’re Labour, Conservative or Liberal Democrat, you’re motivated by pretty much the same progressive aims: a country that is safer, fairer, greener and where opportunity is more equal. It’s how to achieve these aims that we disagree about – and indeed between the Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats there is a lot less disagreement than there used to be.’


Speak for yourself, Mr Cameron. Many of us have had quite enough ‘progress’ and view green fanaticism with suspicion. As for ‘equality of opportunity’, didn’t that come from the grammar schools you won’t restore?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/co...#ixzz0bVrr8UKv
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Old January 3rd, 2010 #2
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I think Margaret Thatcher would be rolling over in her grave if she heard what he said. Oh wait.. she isn't dead...yet!
 
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Peter Hitchens exposes CONservative fraud David Cameron:



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Strange that in my memory the leftists have always coloured the Tories as Nazis in sheep's clothing.
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It's amazing what a party will do and say just to get elected, I believe it's called political expediency.
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It's amazing what a party will do and say just to get elected, I believe it's called political expediency.
all parties lie to get elected, then they do as they are told by the people behind the scenes.

do you think labour would have ever been elected if they had said - we are going to import scum from all around the world, just so a select few can get richer, by not having to pay you the indigenous people a fair wage.
 
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It has taken "ourside" 80 years to work that out and some still have not learned this lesson.Liberal democracy is not designed for honest racial patriots to present their message honestly to the elctorate.However as it is necessary for racial patriots to obtain political power and or influence it is essential that the tactics of the mainstream are used.The main tactic of course is mendacious duplicity, tell em anything get in and then get busy !!!
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It has taken "ourside" 80 years to work that out and some still have not learned this lesson.Liberal democracy is not designed for honest racial patriots to present their message honestly to the elctorate.However as it is necessary for racial patriots to obtain political power and or influence it is essential that the tactics of the mainstream are used.The main tactic of course is mendacious duplicity, tell em anything get in and then get busy !!!
Of course, Adolf Hitler said in Mein Kampf that National Socialists should take part in elections. What Hitler meant was that National Socialists should use elections to get their message across to the ordinary people.
 
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Glad to see the grammar schools point being brought up by someone. A lot of the decline in educational standards can be traced to their closure and the adoption of the comprehensive system, in my opinion.
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all parties lie to get elected, then they do as they are told by the people behind the scenes.

do you think labour would have ever been elected if they had said - we are going to import scum from all around the world, just so a select few can get richer, by not having to pay you the indigenous people a fair wage.
That's true but my point was made about the topic subject in which Tom insinuated that the Conservatives were in his words 'Marxist'. Obviously the Tories are saying things that they think will get them elected and what the majority of voters would like to hear, or what they hope the electorate would like.
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Glad to see the grammar schools point being brought up by someone. A lot of the decline in educational standards can be traced to their closure and the adoption of the comprehensive system, in my opinion.
a decline in standards happened when our universities were infiltrated by communist lecturers who then went out of their way to indoctrinate their students to their beliefs instead of teaching them what was really required.
 
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a decline in standards happened when our universities were infiltrated by communist lecturers who then went out of their way to indoctrinate their students to their beliefs instead of teaching them what was really required.
True, but a lot fewer kids went to University after the removal of the grammar school/other school (can't think what it was called - trade school?) and replaced with the one size fits all comprehensive education.
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True, but a lot fewer kids went to University after the removal of the grammar school/other school (can't think what it was called - trade school?) and replaced with the one size fits all comprehensive education.
but all the modern teachers who are responsable for the drop in modern teaching standards went to uni
 
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Grammar schools turn out beauts like Pete Rushden lol
 
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but all the modern teachers who are responsable for the drop in modern teaching standards went to uni
True but so did Andrew Brons. I admit he's the exception, though. I see where you're coming from now. It's a vicious circle. We needs people with our views to go through University and become teachers/lecturers without it changing their views and begin to redress the imbalance.

(lol Granville. )
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Strange that in my memory the leftists have always coloured the Tories as Nazis in sheep's clothing.
True, that's why leftists are idiots or liars.
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That's true but my point was made about the topic subject in which Tom insinuated that the Conservatives were in his words 'Marxist'. Obviously the Tories are saying things that they think will get them elected and what the majority of voters would like to hear, or what they hope the electorate would like.
But the electorate doesn't want more p.c. after all these years of Labour and are sceptical about the 'green' agenda yet this is what Cameron is offering up before Labour get voted out. More of the same leftist crap.
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