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Greg, (1) First, I was never “handed” any such records. You have made up a story here. In fact, if memory serves, you are the one who possesses those records, as you were the Editor of TOQ. Why would I be interested in these “records” of yours? With one or two exceptions, I don’t even talk to these people on the telephone or through email. What is the basis of this stupid idea that I have records? You are the one who keeps and maintains databases of people in order to solicit them to support your little website. (2) Second, I have never so much as asked a CMS member for their autograph or phone number. I genuinely don’t have the slightest interest in the goings on of that organization. Clearly, you are the one who is obsessed with CMS, not me. (3) Third, I haven’t been a White Nationalist since August 2010. I haven’t been involved with CMS for over a year now. In all that time, I haven’t expressed the slightest interest in finding out what those people are up to. After dealing with your pettiness and greed, I realized that I wanted no further involvement with the White Nationalist movement. I had seen enough to decide that it wasn’t my cup of tea. (4) Fourth, you are the one who is financially motivated, not me. You are the one who has a thermometer on your website which you have used to raise $11,000. You are the one who is over here bitching about the money you are owed and the people who have done you wrong. You are the one who is over here attacking your former associates. Who do you think is more likely to sell his story to the SPLC? Do you think Greg Johnson would do it for money? Do you think Greg Johnson would do it because he is butthurt over losing his job? Do you think Greg Johnson would do it because he hates Yggdrasil and Sam Dickson? Do you think Greg Johnson would do it to promote his own little project in the WN world? Do you think Greg Johnson would do it because he is motivated by the sins of pride and vanity? Of course. I mean ... Greg is clearly one pissed off cocksucker! He won’t be stopped until he all the money in the White Nationalist movement. How can you live like a Nietzschean aristocrat off $10,000? Morris Dees has $250 million in the bank in Montgomery. Surely, Greg would be the first to help himself to some of that. He doesn’t have any inhibitions asking for it. [Sorry, Griffin. Johnson is trustworthy, whereas you are a shape-shifting head case. The funny thing is you keep trying to sell yourself that you're this or that (nazi! conservative! Alabama old-tymey Protestant! Republican! communitarian! Vulcan! Roman!) but it's your inability to be ANYTHING that is your true identity, and you can't see it. I presume it comes from some chemical or physiological brain disturbance, but we wash our hands of you here, not because you're messed up, but because you are such a casual liar that no one can believe a damn thing you say. Unstable personalities mixed with infidelity to any political principle is a recipe for mess and subversion. Better to side with sane men with sound policies. Quit trying to be slick, people. Quit trying to be clever. It's as hard as it looks, and there's no getting around it. Either you're in or you're out, and if you want any kind of leadership, you're going to have use your real name. Not the million and one masks of Brad Griffin, nor the mythically pretentious 'Yggdrasil.' 'Donnie from Ohio' -- that's what you wanna shoot for, hosses.] Last edited by Alex Linder; August 25th, 2011 at 12:11 PM. |
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He is also a 911 falser. (from TOO thread on 911)
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[this is a gem of wrongness. it is what i wrote to refute above. it is perfectly articulate expression of a very common view - i would call it an immaculate misconception. i've interpolated comments to make clear where and why religious conservative racial nationalist haller is wrong. (first posting, then will make the corrections, will take a few minutes, but they'll be in THIS post)]
Posted by Leon Haller on August 25, 2011, 08:08 AM | # Greg Johnson, Hunter Wallace, et al: How is someone like me - a ‘lone wolf’ blogger for many years, sympathetic to anything pro-white, trying to get the message about white persecution and impending extinction out there among alleged conservatives (with a multitude of lengthy comments here at MR, too - one of the few places I haven’t been banned (thank you, GW)) - supposed to decipher the truth from all this “he said/she said” crap? For example, I met Sam Dickson once at an AR conference many years ago. I don’t know him, but I do know of him - and that he has spent decades fighting for the white man’s cause. Here he’s disrespected. Whom ought I to believe? What Hunter says about appealing to conservatives is what I have been saying just recently here at MR, as well as for years and years and years and ... I think it’s what Jared Taylor has believed, too. Politics is about power. In democracies, that obviously means roping in the largest number of people. The primary strategic question is always, therefore, who is your base? The base of any movement to save the white race - the minimum of which in my view consists in stopping nonwhite immigration everywhere, followed by repatriating nonwhites from Europe, and, in the US, Canada, Australia, NZ, 1) ending white judicial and legislative oppression, and 2) reestablishing white cultural hegemony - is going to be found among conservatives. Who else could it be? Occasional NS Euros think that some labourite working class somewhere will constitute it, but I think that view is decades out of date, if it was ever valid. Note by “base” I don’t mean leadership, or “core”, or theorists. I simply refer to the conventionally recognizable class or group which is most likely to respond favorably to pro-white (whether open or implicit) initiatives. Obviously, it’s white people, but given the ideological, economic, cultural, religious and ‘lifestyles’ heterogeneity of whites, given, that is, that whites are variegated, and do not march in such lockstep as other races seem to, at least wrt ethnic and racial issues, white preservationists need to figure out the identifiable already existent group with which our message is most likely to resonate. Speaking as an American, though on this issue I can’t believe matters would be much different in Canada or England (or perhaps any white nation today, given the postwar convergence of governing structures, economies and lifestyles), it is perfectly obvious to me that our base is among conservatives (I’m tempted to add, “duh"). The white Left today is very nearly defined by its commitment to ‘diversity’. How many racist white Democrat ("hard-hat") working class voters are there anymore? I would say, strictly empirically, very few. Of course, there may be a few whites who vote Democrat, that is, against their racial interests, because they somehow benefit from liberal largesse (perhaps they are government workers with generous pensions; I have a disgusting neighbor like that, a quite racially/culturally conservative middle aged-white man who voted for CA Governor Jerry Brown strictly to protect his bloated, CA taxpayer provided pension). But the vast bulk of liberal voters I have met in my life have not, I think, been secret racialists voting Democrat for reasons of greed, like my neighbor. Most seem to sincerely support one or another aspect of the liberal agenda, the contemporary foundation stone of which is commitment to racial diversity and equality. These are not brainwashed persons, except in the most general sense. They are sincere race liberals, and they number in the millions (for Brits, recall my struggle on the English police blog: simply telling the racial truth about the recent riots triggered a groundswell of PC opposition - and this was a blog purportedly speaking for those on the ‘front lines’ of the racial attacks!!). My point is that white preservationists will only find allies, if at all, among conventional, as yet ‘unawakened’, conservatives. So the real question, for those who actually want to do some racial good in the world, for those, that is, for whom intellectual work is not an end in itself, but a guide to desired social change, is, how can we best appeal to the broader world of conservatives? As I have argued vociferously and ad nauseam, the answer to this question is “subtly” (not in terms of outspokenness, but intellectual content). In democracies whose (still) white majority populations are remarkably psychologically and thus politically stable, that which is seen as too far outside the mainstream will fail. But the “mainstream” comprises a number of different ‘streams’, so to speak. If we are going to challenge the racial status quo, which, if left unchallenged, will in the normal course of things destroy us, then we need to be as mainstream as possible in every other way apart from the foundational ideological challenge. People like David Duke and and especially Jared Taylor came to understand that unconventional grooming habits, wearing funny ‘uniforms’, indulging in strange gestures or forms of speech, or adhering to bizarre or repugnant (conspiracy) theories and/or ideologies, was simply less effective than appearing ‘clean-cut’ and as culturally and psychologically normal as possible. This emphasis on conventionality ought to extend to ideology. Thus, in assessing how to get a hearing for WP concerns from conservatives, our only possible mass base, we need to understand conservatives, and try to show that WP (and the policies it requires: ending immigration, ending the anti-white racial spoils system, building white consciousness as an aspect of conservative consciousness) is a natural outgrowth of conservatism (which, in fact, it is). This means in part, especially in America, demonstrating the ethical compatibility between Christianity (the belief system of a clear majority of American conservatives, extending far beyond just the noisier and narrower Bible-thumping Christian “Right") and policies of white preservation. (Hence my personal attraction and commitment to intellectual theories which seek to unify classical conservatism, Christianity (Bible-based or natural law-based), and modern racial science.) In much larger part, it means jettisoning (or at the very least muting) those aspects of WN which conservatives will find anathema. Insulting Christianity (especially in America), even if all forms of supernaturalism are in fact false (not my view, incidentally), is counterproductive in the extreme. (Force a conservative to choose between Christ and Hitler, and 99% of the time, he will choose the former. That is a fact that needs to be dealt with, even by atheist or NS WNs.) Excessive emphasis on genetic determinism is likewise not something conservatives, with their bedrock beliefs in free will as the necessary counterpart to moral responsibility, will find persuasive or appealing. Nazism, and even ‘naming the Jew’, simply will not get traction, at least for the foreseeable future. In terms of rigorously dispassionate analysis, I think only some form of fascism will save Europe (I think something very different is needed in America, more of a libertarian separatism or freedom-of-associationism). But even if racial fascism is where the Euroright needs to get to, the present paradox is that it will not get there by advertising this fact openly. The key for all white nations is, as I’ve stated previously, gradual radicalization, the insinuation of white consciousness and pro-white policy advocacy into conservative discourse. Of course, the nonwhite colonizers are pouring in, making ultimate victory ever more problematic, so we need to be aggressive about this gradualist process. We must all never relinquish any opportunity to spread the truth about race. But we must be as moderate as possible in our presentation, and limited in our agenda. For now, we want legal immigration terminated, illegals deported, and the anti-white spoils system dismantled (maybe also throw in ‘law and order’ and ‘concealed carry’). When we have built up a critical mass of whites adhering to this agenda - and have actually, legislatively accomplished it - we can move our ‘goal-posts’. But set those posts too far back initially, and you will find you can’t even muster a team. |
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Like trying to create an appearance of knowledge about Hitler by quoting from pseudo-Hitler (François Genoud)?
I also think based on circumstances that you were lying about the conversation that you claimed you had with Dr. Pierce on the matter. That is "effrontery, brazenness, chutzpah." Anybody that pushes Harold Covington obviously doesn't care much about facts anyway. CMS had the right idea when they fired you.
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[this is a gem of wrongness. it's what i wrote to refute above. it is perfectly articulate expression of a very common view - i would call it an immaculate misconception. i've interpolated comments to make clear where and why religious conservative racial nationalist (haller) is wrong.]
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Only bravery gets out fear. We don't need to appeal to people, Leon. We need to LEAD them. Lead them means not making arguments that people already believe in but, at this point, not showing fear, and striking back at the enemy, verbally and, if we have the guts, like Breivik did, physically. Haller, what you conservatives don't understand is what I wrote above. If we're just another set of whores and panderers, we haven't a hope. The System can always offer more carrots and sticks. We have to be about what our people need. We must attract them with our strength, not our wimpy sales pitch. What have we to offer in the brummagem democratic way? Not a fucking thing. I mean, of course we do, but that aint the fucking point. You're cheapening and superficializing our cause by acting like we're just another variation of Republicans or Democrats. "Vote for me and I'll steal you 5% more from Pete than Bill will." Hunh-uh. We're the whole thing. Not a party position or platform. People will only join us when they see 1) we are not afraid (like the cowardly conservatives and Republicans) and that 2) we strike real blows against the enemy, which indicates we have a chance to actually win. Not just lose, get beat up, and go ever backward. How do we demonstrate the strength that eventually our coracials will accept as leadership? It starts verbally by using slurs. This is where you and MacDonald and Parrott and Yggdrasil and the rest are 100% wrong. Slurs show we will not be intimidated by System verbal taboos. Which is the prerequisite for showing that, in time, we will get to where we can ignore their other rules for whitemice as well. Truly, the continental verbal-political-strategic divide is the use of the term nigger. If you won't use it under your real name, you are not involved in serious politics. You are merely a conservative. Either use 'nigger' or be a niggler, to make a phrase of it. We gotta be gross large powerful and scary as all fuck, Haller, like a great white shark maw coming up out of the water at the slick black jewmud-seal. Not bending backward appealing to dicks in Dockers. Quote:
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Loud, gross, unsubtle, clear, simple, but above all STRONG...is what is called for. Strong is the only thing whites understand. Peg our race to this guy, who personifies our average: Dog The Bounty Hunter. That's who we are, represent, appeal to, attract, speak for, defend. Think of everything we say in relation to someone on that level. If you do, you'll see it is LACK OF STRENGTH, not bad arguments, or ill-fitting suits, or poorly combed hair, that is the reason the public THAT WE KNOW IS "WHITE" BY THE WAY IT MARRIES AND MOVES isn't with us in formal democratic electoral politics. WN can run for office but it can't hide. If it's not got the courage, it's a non-starter with the mass public. The masses are feminine, Leon. They respond to strength, like a woman. Not niggling weakness. They want to be bowled over, not reasoned with. If they're scared of ZOG's penalties for siding with the politics they really want, no rational argument will win them over - only showing there's a new sheriff in town, and he might just be on the way to kicking ZOG's ass. Elemental stuff. It always is. Who's the big dog in the room? Hint: itz NEVER a bunch of conservative faggots. Never. We're not in an argument. We're not in a debate. We're not playing a game. We're in a fight. And a fight with NO RULES. Humans are animals, and that is the bottom-line POLITICAL fact. Whites lost their countries through intimidation, and they will only get them back through bravery. That is the psychological truth of our situation, no matter our particular nation. Quote:
No strength? No power. Where's the strength in conservatism? Just some arguments. Arguments without heroes to champion them do nothing. As Hitler said -- and he was a winner, unlike conservatives -- "it is not enough that you believe - you must fight." Truth shall not prevail without a sword at her side. Why did people follow Hitler, Haller? Was it his arguments? Or was it that they knew he meant what he said and would back it with his life? You can't even find among your cowardly conservatives a leader with the guts to use 'nigger' in public. And you're going fuck The People with that dick? Fuck you are. The people can find better pussy than conservative shemales. Face it, Haller. No answer in church. No answers on right. Just a bunch of old women, pursing lips and waggling fingers. Quote:
I hate to use a niggerism, but either go big or don't go at all. This wimpy democratic-electoral appeal to lazy, cowardly, selfish middle-class khaki wearers is ridiculous. You can't take crap like that and escher it into revolutionary warriors. That ought to be obvious. What we need to do is BE the Conans, and by our sheer powerful awesomeness attract the barbarians. Then the lamenting women (than which an apter description of conservatives could hardly be devised) will follow us. 'Appealing' to the conformist middle-classes is the political equivalent of putting women on a pedestal. It doesn't work except to produce misery. What we have here is a failure to perceive the paradox. The nice middle-class society, and the Southern culture, may be desirable to live in, but they do not produce the type capable of defending themselves. Only ideological racial fanatics can do that. Accept it. Help generate those fanatics. Quote:
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Try this instead: "Niggers are flash mobbing our neighborhoods? Let's go flash mob some niggers." Yeah. That crude. Necessarily. People are not intellectuals. People DO NOT think. The vast majority CANNOT think except in the narrowest instrumental sense. You cannot reach them with intellectual appeals. It's crude power display. If the other side can visibly kick our ass, we have to change that. Arguing will never win a physical fight. We don't need to argue, we need to bulk up. Verbally and physically - simultaneously. We are 98-lb weaklings right now, and that's why the beach blanket bunny public wants nothing to do with us and runs off with Ian Ziering. How did Whites act when they were free and sovereign? They used racial epithets and lynched troublemakers - jew, mud and white. By degree jews stole to power, and made those healthy actions 'hate' crimes and enforced taboos against even noticing racial differences, let alone acting on them. We don't get back to where we were by playing along with the rules of the New Racial Order. Quote:
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If you think, Leon, I truly believe you might be able to understand that very simple, yet kind of subtle, concept. A supermodel doesn't need to pass out a stats sheet selling her awesome tits and juicy inlets - she just strips bare and lets the drool flow. Our cause is a supermodel. Let's fucking act like it. WE are the FOOTBALL CAPTAIN, and WE are the HEAD CHEERLEADER. Dig it, ponyboys. Quote:
But ultimately, our vision for our people is DEVOLUTION - the only political form that is unique to our race. Because if white men can't run their own lives, we have no cause. We will live as white MEN in a WHITE context. Then and only then can we be all we can be, both as a race AND as individual men and women. Whites who don't want part of that can apply to Nigeria or China, or go under fighting us. We'll have a literal physical contract signed between the monofunctional Guardian-protected overstate and the citizen whereby they positively affirm they understand the state is racially based and will never change, and they accept that. Their kids, born with no consent, will be given equivalent of rumspringa from 18-21, say, but after that, they are either in or out. The compromisable stuff can be worked out via PRIVATE ASSOCIATION, not government coercion, through the people living in their microstates. They can be social democrats, Catholics, libertarians, whatever, but the central or over or federal goverment will NEVER allow challenge to the racial basis of the state. Since there won't be any jews or muds to contest it, the only danger can come from invasion or subversion within, but these will be as easy to prevent as they could conceivably be. Quote:
It's always a matter of White or death. 'Gradual radicalization' - Haller, it just doesn't work like this. Imagine ANY successful revolutionary sayign the stuff you're saying. Imagine Hitler talking about subtly influencing people, gradually radicalizing them. Either you're leading and loud and laughing, or you're limping, lingering and lamenting. Nothing sneaky or superficial, shallow, subtle can work. It must be plain and strong. Again, this is so obvious it is hard to believe you actually believe what you're typing. You're going insinuate and gradually radicalize conservatives? Really? Maybe if you controlled Fox News. Otherwise, no. And even if you did control Fox, why would you go by degree? You'd just flip policy overnight, and your audience would follow cluelessly. There's not 1/100 Fox viewers who can define conservatism in a way Burke would recognize. They're intellectual niggers. Conservatism is simply whatever a publicly labeled conservative just said. Even if he said the opposite yesterday. And since you don't have any major media outlets, and every official vector is controlled by the enemy, a policy of insinuation is utterly impossible. Whites don't sneak up on people, particularly when theirs is the majority view, as it is in white countries. Sneaking insintuation is for filthy kikes with a genetic-cultural bent for it and a view that makes the majority puke in disgust. Quote:
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Whew, your whole response to Haller is brilliant stuff. Particularly the stuff about deep politics. Moving the whole political spectrum whiteward. Compelling. Right up to where you conclude that the best use of your time is roasting other racialists who don't pass your litmus test of radicalness.
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What is wrong with you? Our recent discussion of your charge that Ed Connelly is a plagiarist made it clear to me that there is a huge streak of very touchy vanity in your character, and it skews your judgment, trumps your honesty, and makes you stupid whenever it takes control. It is a pity, because you can be a very lucid thinker and compelling writer. This whole polarization strategy is just another version of the old, "First, we must unite everybody on the right behind one fearless leader by spending all our time and energy attacking other fearless leaders, smashing their organizations, and wooing their followers" approach. Well, it doesn't work. It is counter-productive. It is a criminal waste of time and energy. And it reeks of the petty and shallow politics that you so rightly deride in Haller. What would a deep political approach dictate? Recognizing that a diversity of approaches is a given and will not go away. Allowing people to participate in this struggle at whatever level of explicitness and involvement they choose. Accepting their choices. Respecting their anonymity. Remaining true to one's own message. Attacking the enemy. Constructively engaging other whites. Networking with other groups. Working to radicalize the best people among them. Building a counter-elite. Establishing a core of people and a network of influence that will pull the whole culture and the whole political spectrum toward white racial consciousness. I discuss this in my piece on "Hegemony" at Counter-Currents. I talk about some of the organizational implications in my followup, which I am working on now. No, we can't include everyone. We can't include mentally ill and abnormal people, for instance. That is a very costly lesson I learned from my association with CMS. |
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Damn. I hate when that happens. In my defense, I did have to postpone an IQ injection, so maybe some slippage is understandable.
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You've covered what Covington has said pretty well. I've visited your blog a few times. -- he talked shit about Pierce and Klassen. Did Pierce and Klassen talk any shit about him? Yes. So how does that work out in the honesty department with you? Covington lied about Klassen. Klassen lied about Covington. Do two wrongs make a right? The reality is they just were trying to get the same members. -- he accused Will Williams of selling off the NA mailing list. I read somewhere that Will and Covington grew up together. Sounds like a personal issue that got turned into a political one. So these guys hate each other and went back and forth. What does that have to do with White Nationalism? -- he's talked shit about Glenn Miller. A lot of people talk shit about Glenn Miller. I've always liked him and his approach to WN. He got his balls in a vice with the Order. He was otherwise a bad ass in his day, but none of these people are above criticism. You know what I think the real problem is here? Alcohol. I sometimes wonder how many of the people in WN are alcoholics. They are all some controlling motherfuckers that are at the same time super sensitive bitches. We need an AA meeting for WN leaders and discuss the topic "principles before personalities." And since I know you'll call me a "Covingtonista" or whatever, my opinion is that the Northwest migration is a good idea but Covington brings a bunch of baggage before it can even get off the ground. He made that mess and he knows it. He talks about the "goat dancers", but he's done plenty of goat dancing himself. And if this post gets me banned, let me just say that I think we need to stop looking for leaders to follow. We need to quit joining political cults that make us feel like we are doing something and try being leaders ourselves. No one is going to save us. |
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You see, Greg, and I apologize for, uh, getting out of your ken, shall we say, it's like a pregnancy test: You can't be a little bit pregnant. It's either pink or blue. When you try to pretend a thing and its opposite are the same, all you get is pue and blink. Quote:
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I never get this petty, almost house-wifey mode you get into. "Waste of time and energy," "counter productive" -- wtf, it's like I'm dealing with Kevin Strom or something. What could possibly be LESS of a waste of time than arguing over the right political strategy for Whites to reclaim sovereignty? You just aren't thinking clearly. You're letting your taste for decency, getting along, friendliness, nice centerpieces, dinner parties, overwhelm your analytical capacity. We need the right strategy. It is worth infighting about. I will keep fighting until my strategy is seen as correct. I mean, heck, if you're right, all you have to do is ignore me. I'm the only one arguing we should biff in the solar-plexus rather than amplexus with the conservatives. All I see out of your side's love-n-tolerance-based ecru nationalism is a hazy mess. As for "smashing their organizations" - I don't do that. I attack people who use MY name (white nationalism) while advocating non-WN politics. And yes, I arrogate the definition of WN, and will battle anyone who disagrees. What you don't appear to realize, Greg, is the risks you run by associating people who are on an entirely different page than you are because you never cared enough to look, thinking it didn't matter. My strategy is at least unique: attack the conservatives and the christians. Make those attacks principled AND personal. Use epithets, not just arguments. No one else, no other site, man, faction or party is taking my approach. You're all just overlooking and back-scratching and log-rolling. All you will end up doing is strengthening the controlled opposition - the professional conservatives. You aren't radicalizing the Buchanans, you're shoring them up. I, who can see farther and deeper than you, am doing you the service of pointing out exactly what you're ACTUALLY doing rather than feeding your illusions about the natural results of promiscuous conservative-racialist intermixing. Greg, I can already see it in your writing. I want Greg Johnson, white radical, not Greg Johnson, some fag sitting around joshing with Affable Dick Spencer. Yeah, I know. There goes my vanity and narcissm again. No doubt an egotistical rage is close behind. They're putzes, Greg - the alt-right crowd. I can smell 'em a mile away. And odds are Parrott is a putz too. Don't be a fool. Quote:
Yet again, as I'll point out for the 500th time, you and the high-roaders have never explained how we win by your strategy of playing fanboy to professional conservatives and never cursing or raising our voices, even, to the jews. I keep waiting. Only VNN/F has a clear identification of the problem, and a clear strategy to solve it. Contrary to what you say, and one good reason FOR infighting, is that our forces are too small to scatter. You really think you're attracting some huge new crowd at Counter-Currents that VNN doesn't have? I doubt it. It's the same people, no matter where you go. There aren't enough we can split. So the urgency is to find the RIGHT WAY to go. The right strategy. The right tendency to back. I offer that way. But others disagree. I'm not giving up my position and following some way that can't work. In the end, my tendency will win out for objective reasons. What we need for truly massive growth is to defeat the professional conservatives. That can't happen when we mix with them. Please think about what I'm saying. I'm just not wrong about this stuff, Greg. Review the record. The conservatives aren't racial radicals, they're fundraisers and career girls. Andy Nowicki? Mark Hackard? Richard Meh-Spencer? You think these are on your side? Hey, I enjoy reading their stuff too, they're fine writers, but their cause is personal, not political. Look in their eyes. They're a bunch of self-promoters (not wholly a bad thing) and o tempores/o mores types - basically religious emo-goth types transferred to politics. They won't shake their fist strongly to change things, they'll shake their heads sadly to lament things. They're in the wrong mode, and it's a biological predisposition, not a choice. When you try to have it both ways, as Sam Francis proved bodily, you rip yourself apart. You can see it in their eyes. Squirrel, squirm and squish as you like, at the end of the day, it's a long straight, slow slog, and there's no way around that. So face up to it. Be a man, not a conservative. Quote:
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A few years ago it was generally understood that anybody that takes Harold Covington seriously is a horse's ass, but as the years since the death of Dr. Pierce have increased, so has the accretion of mental and moral defectives to the WN cause. Keep defending Harold Covington so that everybody knows who the fucktards are. You and Greggy too. Say it loud and clear. Come out of the closet too while you're at it. Covington and a number of his associates and prominent supporters for some reason just happen to be perverts. What's up with that?
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I'm actually trying to get around to the real problem in this movement, which you display nicely right here. It's not "honest criticism versus lying" it's critiquing ideas versus character assassination. And you don't know the difference, let alone value it. I really don't give a fuck what you think about me. The fact that you'll just skip over my ideas and attack me says it all. Quote:
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"Chechar is a Mexican lunatic (diagnosed with some disorder)" - HaddingJesus, Hadding! It’s the first time that someone calls me “lunatic” in the boards. Yes: I researched psychiatry and have a blog on anti-psychiatric issues (psychiatric labeling is mainly a Jew thing, you know?). And I have visited mental hospitals twice in my life—as a researcher, never as a patient. That I was born in Mexico doesn’t erase the fact that I am an Iberian white, and that I have a very low opinion about Mexico. Cf. what Joe Cooper said about character assassination just above. You are mad with me because, debating you, I sided Covington and the Northwest idea in a handful threads at TOO and CC. But I ignored that you also try to assassinate the character of Covington’s fans so vehemently... "César Córcoles (chechar) on Twitter" - RickNope! You perfectly know there are literally millions of “Cesars” in the Spanish-speaking world. You picked the wrong Chechar. FYI my full name is Cesar Tort… and I am not even the only “Cesar” with that last name in the world. |
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When you claim a moral equivalence between Covington and Pierce or Covington and Klassen, when you claim that they lied about him in their rare statements about him (here and here), you damned well are defending Covington, and attacking Klassen and Pierce to do it.
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My thoughts on "Big Tent WN" from another thread:
"Including Jews as White is a non-starter. It misses the point entirely. I believe we have a certain set of WN who think "OK, Americans can see the effects of Black & Mestizo integration with their own eyes. The effects are manifest in front of them daily, easily demonstrable by us. Those same Americans are clueless about Jews, so in order to tackle problem A, we will ignore problem B for now". Nobody likes Jews but other Jews & White religious fanatics. They are an utterly offensive race. Unfortunately, White religious fanatics have made up the bulk of American White Nationalism for quite a while, and there is still gold in them there hills, so to speak".
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I believe the feeling on the part of some is that Dickson is quite vain, thinks he's the best speaker ever heard of. Beyond that I don't know. And that's not my opinion - I have never met Dickson or heard him except maybe a video of talk he gave one time.
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