Somalians 'won't integrate' (Norway)

dogman · August 27th, 2008

First published: 25 Aug 2008, 16:08

Somalians 'won't integrate'
A Somalian woman who came to Norway more than 10 years ago is harshly criticizing her fellow Somalian immigrants and Norwegian authorities. In a new book, she claims Somalians themselves don't want to integrate into Norwegian society, and that Norwegian welfare programs make it easy for them to remain isolated.
A Somalian immigrant in Oslo is blasting her fellow Somalians for resisting integration. The Norwegian welfare system lets them get away with it, she claims.

PHOTO: ILLUSTRATION PHOTO/AP

Bashe Musse is among the Somalian activists in Norway who's bashing the Somalian woman's book. He says she's a coward for not writing under her own name, and notes that integration is a process that takes time.

PHOTO: ROLF ØHMAN

The book written by Amal Aden, a pseudonym for the Somalian author, is already creating an uproar. Amal Aden wouldn't use her own name because of fears for her own safety.

In an interview with newspaper Aftenposten, the author said she hopes to launch a new debate on immigration and what can be done to further integration.

"I wrote the book in the hopes that children will get better lives," she said. "I want to see more integration, and the responsibility for that lies with the Somalians themselves and with the authorities."

She claims that resistance to integration is widespread especially among Somalian men, who fear losing their culture and religion. Many are afraid of Norwegians and view them as infidels who can't be trusted.

In her book, entitled "See us!" (Se oss!), Amal Aden claims the Somalians also exploit the Norwegian welfare state and have many children in order to qualify for more welfare payments. Many couples also "divorce" under Norwegian law in order for the women to receive even more welfare payments as single mothers, only to continue to live under Somalian customs with their Somalian husbands and have more children, the author claims.

She writes that violence is a part of life in Somalian homes, that young girls are often molested and women and children are intentionally kept isolated. Many Somalian men, she claims, prefer to live on welfare than accept jobs seemingly below their social status.

"I'm tired of being patient with a situation where children aren't getting enough food at home, where women are beaten by their husbands, where welfare payments to the (Somalian) families are used by the men to buy (the narcotic) khat, where the willingness to simply obtain more welfare money is stronger than the ability to care for children," writes Amal Aden. She accuses many spokesmen for the Somalian community of hypocrisy, saying they say they support integration when in reality they don't.

Several Somalian activists in Norway are already rejecting the book and blasting Amal Aden for criticizing immigrants traumatized by war and poverty in their homeland. "Half of the Somalians in Norway have been here less than five years, have little education and have problems integrating," claims Said Abdulwahab. "It doesn't help to criticize them."

Abdulwahab has five daughters himself aged four to 14, but has sent them all to school in Kenya. Not, he claims, because Norwegians can't be relied upon but because he wants them to get a good education.

Major publishing firm Aschehoug has put out the book, saying that while it may be accused of stigmatizing Somalians, it's important to "release new voices" on the issue. Aschehoug editor Halvor Fosli said Amal Aden had "a brave pen."

Relatively large population in Norway
Somalians make up one of the largest immigrant groups in Norway, numbering around 20,000. Nearly half live in the Oslo area and most have come as refugees. Only 13 percent have had any higher education. and more than half are younger than 20 years.

Reuters reported on Monday that the number of people needing humanitarian aid in Somalia has leapt 77 percent this year to more than 3.2 million. A report by the Food Security Analysis Unit paints a bleak picture of a crisis compounded by failed rains, rising food prices, inflation, and the worst insecurity in the Horn of Africa nation since the early 1990s.

"Somalia is now facing the worst security situation in the last 17 years, with increased armed conflict and fighting, targeting of humanitarian aid workers, military build-up, increased sea piracy and political tension," the report said. "This situation is severely undermining economic activities and humanitarian delivery, thus contributing to the overall deterioration in the humanitarian situation."

Aftenposten's reporter
Olga Stokke

Aftenposten English Web Desk
Nina Berglund/REUTERS

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/lo...cle2616711.ece

Bill · August 27th, 2008

Somalians should not be in Norway, they should be back home, fighting with the Youth Mujahideen Movement, kicking the Zionist proxy armies out of Somalia.

http://www.kataaib.net/

Guy Dietrich · August 27th, 2008

Agreed, these cowardly and greedy niggers need to be shipped off back to Africa.

Charlie-Boy · August 27th, 2008

Somalians 'won't integrate'

Let's Celebrate!

Zenos · August 27th, 2008

Quote:

Many are afraid of Norwegians and view them as infidels who can't be trusted.

That doesn't stop them from flooding into a White country because their own shit hole of a country is nearly uninhabitable.

When will Whites realize these animals take whatever they can get and give back nothing, contribute nothing, make wherever the go worse, bring their retarded religion and 3rd world customs with them, and then hate you for helping them.

Jett Rink · August 27th, 2008

This is the sickest story I've seen in awhile.

EoinO'Duffy · August 27th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill

Somalians should not be in Norway, they should be back home, fighting with the [FONT="Times New Roman"][SIZE="4"][COLOR="Green"]Youth Mujahideen Movement

These Somalian niggers are probably enjoying screwing Norweigen women so much that they aren't as interested in this mujahideen bullshit war anymore.

psychologicalshock · August 27th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill

Somalians should not be in Norway, they should be back home, fighting with the Youth Mujahideen Movement, kicking the Zionist proxy armies out of Somalia.

http://www.kataaib.net/

Bill, they're all fucking niggers, it doesn't matter if they wear a cock sheathe or a turban they're all the same subhuman shit.

Mike Jahn · August 27th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by psychologicalshock

Bill, they're all fucking niggers, it doesn't matter if they wear a cock sheathe or a turban they're all the same subhuman shit.

Bill is the only VNN'er who faces Mecca when he posts.

Curious · August 29th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill

Somalians should not be in Norway, they should be back home, fighting with the Youth Mujahideen Movement, kicking the Zionist proxy armies out of Somalia.

http://www.kataaib.net/

Nigger violence and nigger laziness are two sides of the same nigger coin.

Bill · August 29th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Jahn

Bill is the only VNN'er who faces Mecca when he posts.

This is the reaction I get when I say they should be back home?

Shouldn't you and your friends be concentrating on the Jews and it's front governments?

psychologicalshock · August 29th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill

This is the reaction when I say they should be back home?

Why don't you buy them all a plane ticket and go with them?

Bill · August 29th, 2008

Friday August 29, 2008

People of questionable backgrounds,(?) who make endless childish personal attacks on long time members, I wonder how that will go after Sept. 1st.

Curious · August 29th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill

Friday August 29, 2008

People of questionable backgrounds,(?) who make endless childish personal attacks on long time members, I wonder how that will go after Sept. 1st.

Well, I will no longer call Somalis niggers. It would even make sense to learn Somali. It is written in the Latin alphabet, and there is a lot of material on the internet. For starters:

http://www.hiiraan.com

http://www.dhahar.com

Example of Somali language:

Quote:

Wararka naga soo gaaraya magaalada Baydhabo ee xarunta u ah Gobolka Bay ayaa waxay sheegayaan in ay halkaas ka socdaan kulamo lagu qaboojinayo xasarad ka dhex oogan Dowladda Federaalka Soomaaliya, taasi oo markeedii hore ka dhalatay khilaaf soo kala dhexgalay Madaxweyne C/llaahi Yuusuf iyo Ra’iisal Wasaare Nuur Cadde

psychologicalshock · August 29th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill

Friday August 29, 2008

People of questionable backgrounds,(?) who make endless childish personal attacks on long time members, I wonder how that will go after Sept. 1st.

Bill I don't care that you're old or a long time member of this or that, Muslims suck as much as Jews do regardless of how long they've been alive. The only background that is questionable is your's, I have nothing to be ashamed of.

Curious · August 29th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by psychologicalshock

Bill I don't care that you're old or a long time member of this or that, Muslims suck as much as Jews do regardless of how long they've been alive. The only background that is questionable is your's, I have nothing to be ashamed of.

Nice wymyn for Bill:

YouTube - Full Version Niiko - Somali Girls Hot, Aroos

Bill · August 29th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by psychologicalshock

Bill I don't care that you're old or a long time member of this or that, Muslims suck as much as Jews do regardless of how long they've been alive. The only background that is questionable is your's, I have nothing to be ashamed of.

Listen fuck face, if you and those other clowns think you are going to drive me off from this forum you are dead wrong. Also, I never have said I am a Muslim.

You're just mad at me because I support the Chechen fighters, in their war with anti-White Putin.

Bill · August 30th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curious

Nice wymyn for Bill:

Who's sockpuppet are you?

Sándor Petőfi · August 30th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill

Somalians should not be in Norway

Somalians shouldn't be on planet Earth.

T. Kadijevic · August 30th, 2008

Can somebody explain to me as to WHY Somalis are required in Norway?

August 27th, 2008	#1
dogman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,499	Somalians 'won't integrate' (Norway) First published: 25 Aug 2008, 16:08 Somalians 'won't integrate' A Somalian woman who came to Norway more than 10 years ago is harshly criticizing her fellow Somalian immigrants and Norwegian authorities. In a new book, she claims Somalians themselves don't want to integrate into Norwegian society, and that Norwegian welfare programs make it easy for them to remain isolated. A Somalian immigrant in Oslo is blasting her fellow Somalians for resisting integration. The Norwegian welfare system lets them get away with it, she claims. PHOTO: ILLUSTRATION PHOTO/AP Bashe Musse is among the Somalian activists in Norway who's bashing the Somalian woman's book. He says she's a coward for not writing under her own name, and notes that integration is a process that takes time. PHOTO: ROLF ØHMAN The book written by Amal Aden, a pseudonym for the Somalian author, is already creating an uproar. Amal Aden wouldn't use her own name because of fears for her own safety. In an interview with newspaper Aftenposten, the author said she hopes to launch a new debate on immigration and what can be done to further integration. "I wrote the book in the hopes that children will get better lives," she said. "I want to see more integration, and the responsibility for that lies with the Somalians themselves and with the authorities." She claims that resistance to integration is widespread especially among Somalian men, who fear losing their culture and religion. Many are afraid of Norwegians and view them as infidels who can't be trusted. In her book, entitled "See us!" (Se oss!), Amal Aden claims the Somalians also exploit the Norwegian welfare state and have many children in order to qualify for more welfare payments. Many couples also "divorce" under Norwegian law in order for the women to receive even more welfare payments as single mothers, only to continue to live under Somalian customs with their Somalian husbands and have more children, the author claims. She writes that violence is a part of life in Somalian homes, that young girls are often molested and women and children are intentionally kept isolated. Many Somalian men, she claims, prefer to live on welfare than accept jobs seemingly below their social status. "I'm tired of being patient with a situation where children aren't getting enough food at home, where women are beaten by their husbands, where welfare payments to the (Somalian) families are used by the men to buy (the narcotic) khat, where the willingness to simply obtain more welfare money is stronger than the ability to care for children," writes Amal Aden. She accuses many spokesmen for the Somalian community of hypocrisy, saying they say they support integration when in reality they don't. Several Somalian activists in Norway are already rejecting the book and blasting Amal Aden for criticizing immigrants traumatized by war and poverty in their homeland. "Half of the Somalians in Norway have been here less than five years, have little education and have problems integrating," claims Said Abdulwahab. "It doesn't help to criticize them." Abdulwahab has five daughters himself aged four to 14, but has sent them all to school in Kenya. Not, he claims, because Norwegians can't be relied upon but because he wants them to get a good education. Major publishing firm Aschehoug has put out the book, saying that while it may be accused of stigmatizing Somalians, it's important to "release new voices" on the issue. Aschehoug editor Halvor Fosli said Amal Aden had "a brave pen." Relatively large population in Norway Somalians make up one of the largest immigrant groups in Norway, numbering around 20,000. Nearly half live in the Oslo area and most have come as refugees. Only 13 percent have had any higher education. and more than half are younger than 20 years. Reuters reported on Monday that the number of people needing humanitarian aid in Somalia has leapt 77 percent this year to more than 3.2 million. A report by the Food Security Analysis Unit paints a bleak picture of a crisis compounded by failed rains, rising food prices, inflation, and the worst insecurity in the Horn of Africa nation since the early 1990s. "Somalia is now facing the worst security situation in the last 17 years, with increased armed conflict and fighting, targeting of humanitarian aid workers, military build-up, increased sea piracy and political tension," the report said. "This situation is severely undermining economic activities and humanitarian delivery, thus contributing to the overall deterioration in the humanitarian situation." Aftenposten's reporter Olga Stokke Aftenposten English Web Desk Nina Berglund/REUTERS http://www.aftenposten.no/english/lo...cle2616711.ece

August 27th, 2008	#4
Charlie-Boy Pinche Wedo Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The 'other' Pool Posts: 4,173	*Somalians 'won't integrate'* Let's Celebrate! __________________ Justice for the 'Medomsley Boys'.

August 30th, 2008	#20
T. Kadijevic † Chaotic Christian † Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Church of the Warrior Christ Posts: 4,387	Can somebody explain to me as to WHY Somalis are required in Norway? __________________ "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him...." ------ John 8:44

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August 27th, 2008	#2
Bill Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 'WN' Dreamland Posts: 3,675	Somalians should not be in Norway, they should be back home, fighting with the Youth Mujahideen Movement, kicking the Zionist proxy armies out of Somalia. http://www.kataaib.net/

August 27th, 2008	#3
Guy Dietrich Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 260 Blog Entries: 1	Agreed, these cowardly and greedy niggers need to be shipped off back to Africa.

August 27th, 2008	#6
Jett Rink Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Squaresville Posts: 7,499	This is the sickest story I've seen in awhile.

August 29th, 2008	#13
Bill Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 'WN' Dreamland Posts: 3,675	Friday August 29, 2008 People of questionable backgrounds,(?) who make endless childish personal attacks on long time members, I wonder how that will go after Sept. 1st.