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Ἀντίοχος Ἐπιφανὴς
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Criticizing Charlemagne for vanquishing his tribal enemies is very Christian and tolerant of you fellows. Excuse me if I find these sentiments ironic. I say Karolus Magnus and his daddy Charles the Hammer and Constantine before them were Great White Warlords like Napoleon and Hitler. Mind you I very much dislike Napoleon but we have a type here. A type that we should hope-- and pray-- will Come Back like the Madhi, and be the Lightening and the Sun all at once, the Man above time and in Time, and sweep aside the present evils with fire and sword and re-establish a new Golden age on Earth.
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Ἀντίοχος Ἐπιφανὴς
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As for Wagner being confused in his Christianity, far from it. You go see Parsifal Craig and then come back and tell me Wagner was wrong. Ever seen Parsifal? Ever seen any Wagner Mr Nazi.org?
No. Our Christianity is a synthesis of universal spiritual ideas and our own particular racial spirit. |
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FadeTheButcher is your pic of Noah Wylie who plays 'Dr. Carter' on ER? It looks like him to me.
It is so typically hollywood that they use a jewish actor to play a WASP doctor! (Don't let his sister's conversion fool you. It is in one of his quotes that he considers himself jewish. Read it there http://www.anecdotage.com/index.php?aid=5737 |
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killed more Aryans then any other concept.
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This argument is mute. The same Saxons; after Charlemagne smashed their idol irminsul; converted and became the Christian defenders of England against the antiChrist, heathen Danes. Are the Saxons only defended as victims of Christians and not as Christian aggresors against wotanism? The majority of Germanics willingly converted and I make no apologies for our Christian kindred who spread the Gospel through Europe with the Sword of Truth. Heathenism has traditionally made resurgences when the amount and influence of jews has increased in their infestation of Christian lands as is evident in the occidental world today rule by Zionism and its progeny; the bastardized occultic, heathen ideologies that corrupt our folk. As Christians we hail Hakon, Harald Bluetooth, Alstem. Rollo, Olaf Tryggvesson, Æthelberht, Cnut , Alfred, Redwald, Offa, Charlemagne, Egbert, Ethelwulf. Ethelbald, Ethelbert,Ethelred,Ethelred(the Unready),Edward(the Elder) Edward(the Martyr), Edward(the Confessor),Athelstan,Edmund,Edmund(Ironside), Edred, Edwny,Edgar,etc etc etc ... among others and all Germanic aristocrats since; that have rejected judaism in the form of wotanism and all those great backsliding Adamites, who joined into the Body of their Redeemer the Master Anointed hearing the call of their DNA to submit to the will of the Creator of our folk.
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Sacrifices to Woden are mentioned by Tacitus (Germ. 9) who states that "they consider it right to sacrifice even human victims to Mercurious on certain fixed days." According to Jonas of Bobbio (Mabillon, Acta sanctorum ord. Bened. II. p. 26) Columbanus (about A.D. 620) found a party of Sueui engaged in "sacrifice" to Wodan. They were sitting round a large vessel full of beer; but the nature of the ceremony is not described. According to Ethelwerd sacrifices were offered by the English to Woden (see above).
The custom of devoting a hostile army to Woden (cf. p. 7) was also known to the continental Germans. The clearest case occurs in Tacitus' description of the war between the Chatti and the Hermunduri (Ann. XIII. 57):--"The war turned out successfully for the Hermunduri, while for the Chatti it was all the more disastrous, because in the event of victory they (i.e. bot sides) had dedicated their opponents' army to Mars and Mercurius. By this vow both horses and men, in short everything on the side of the conquered is given up to destruction. And so the threats of our enemies recoiled upon themselves." Another example of the total destruction of an army, which may very well have been due to a vow of this kind, is supplied by Tacitus' account of the scene of Varus' disaster (Ann. I. 61). It seems likely also that the English invaders of Britain practiced a similar rite, if one may judge from certain entries in the Saxon Chronicle, especially the entry under the 491:--"Ælle and Cissa besieged Anderida and slaughtered all who dwelt therein; there was not a single Briton left there." It has been mentioned above (p. 7) that amongst the Scandinavians this dedication was symbolized by the casting of a javelin over the enemy's army. Some such idea may have been in the mind of Coifi, the chief priest of the Northumbrians, who according to Bede (H. E. II. 13), as soon as he had given his vote for the change of faith, hurled a spear into the heathen temple. A very early example of the total destruction of a vanquished army in obedience to a vow of this kind is given by Orosius v. 16. After narrating the defeat of Caepio and Mallius by the Cimbri (B.C. 105) he proceeds:--"The enemy captured both camps and acquired an immense quantity of booty. They proceeded to destroy everything which they had captured in accordance with a novel and unusual vow. The clothing was torn to shreds and cast away; the gold and silver was thrown into the river; the corslets of the men were cut to pieces; the trappings of the horses were broken up; the horses themselves were drowned in the waters; the men were hanged on trees, with nooses round their necks. No booty was allowed to the conqueror and no pity to the conquered." It is true that the nationality of the Cimbri and Teutons has not yet been satisfactorily ascertained. On the whole the evidence is perhaps somewhat against the supposition that these tribes were Germanic. Yet there is no doubt that they had lived in the closest proximity to Germanic tribes, and consequently they may have shared their religious beliefs and usages. The practice of destroying even the inanimate property of a vanquished enemy was known among the Germans of the North at a much later time, probably as late as the fourth century. This is shown by the immense quantities of weapons and other articles, which have been found deposited in the bogs of Thorsbjærg and Nydam (in Slesvig and South Jutlan). A most singular custom is attributed by Procopius (Gothis War II. 14) to the Eruli, a tribe which it has hitherto proved impossible to identify with certainty with any of the Germanic nations known in later times. Procopius states simply that they lived formerly beyond the Danube, but his acquaintance with the geography of northern Europe was apparently not extensive. The Eruli are first mentioned in the third century, at which time they appear almost simultaneously on the Black Sea and on the frontier of Gaul. On the whole it seems most probable that their original home was on the southern shores of the Baltic. However this may be, it is quite clear that they were a Germanic tribe and still heathen when part of them were admitted into the Roman empire by Anastasius (A.D. 512). They seem to have been the only important Germanic tribe known to Procopius which had preserved their heathendom till within living memory; for the Goths, Vandals, Gepedes, and Langobardi had long been Christian, and even the Franks were nominally converted before the end of the fifth century, though according to Procopius (G. W. II. 25) they still continued to practice human sacrifices. There seems to be no adequate reason for doubting that the cult of Woden was known to the Eruli. It was certainly practiced by all the tribes whose territories lay along the Elbe, the Saxons, Langobardi and Hermunduri; probably also by the Goths whose original home lay far to the East. Procopius simply states that the Eruli worshiped a great number of gods, whom they deemed it right to appease with human sacrifices. There is however some evidence of a different kind (cf. p. 39 f.), which would seem to show that the Eruli had preserved one feature of the cult in a singularly pure form. Procopius' statement about the customs of the Eruli is as follow:--"They had many laws which differed from those of the rest of mankind; for when they became aged or sick they were not allowed to live. As soon as one of them was overtaken by old age or disease it became incumbent on him to request his relatives to put him out of the way as quickly as possible. The relatives made a great pile of logs, reaching to a considerable height, and setting the man on the top they sent up one of the Eruli against him with a dagger. This man had to be chosen from another family, for it was not lawful that the executioner should be related to the victim. And when the man who had been chosen to slay their kinsman had returned, they proceeded forthwith to set all the logs on fire, beginning at the extremities of the pile. When the fire had died out they collected the bones and buried them without delay in the ground." |
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The more I learn about the Christian conversion of Northern Europe the more I am sickened.
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Allow me to interject long enough to say this is one of the most outstanding threads in the history of VNNF. And before I give you a pat on the back for your research Jarl could you provide a proof link where Karl the butcher slaughtered all those pagans? Do you have a verifiable one? This is great stuff. All those cowardly pagans running from the sword of the noble Christians. I just want to say this is a great thread and thank you to all those that did the research.
Do you have more research? I have some on Christians slaughtering Jews but this is great also. I hope this thread goes on and on, like the catholic crimes against the white race thread. Keep up the good work. Here is a big VNNF pat on the back for all of your efforts. ![]() ![]()
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Remember, It Started In Babylon. That's when the Tribe made up stories about "Pharoahs" and "Plagues" and "Miracles" that were so shamelessly idiotic people believe them today. Amazing. Unfortunately the sleeper called Western Man is waking again. So laugh now before he's fully roused -- the slumber of centuries will have wetted his appetite for the blood of traitors and scoundrels. Present company excluded, of course.
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Voice of the dark side.
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Gold Coast, Australia
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First, Hitler was trying to save Europe from the clutches of international Jewry. Second, according to Seventh Day Adventist scholars (who have put a lot of effort into the project) the Catholic Church is directly responsible for the deaths of about 100 million people, most of whom were Europeans. Christinsanity is an alien evil Jewish creed that was intended to enslave the gentiles. It worked! I am a proud pagan who will resist unto death any attempt to force the worship of a Jewish god on to me. Hail Wodan!
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