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Old April 25th, 2009   #1
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On White-History.com is says the Egyptians were White because of red hair mummies. OKAY !
Where did these red-heads come from if they existed in large numbers and when did they enter Africa, displacing the native populations that have been there for thousands of years?
Lastly and most importantly, seeing as how these features are most common in Europe, why would they traverse miles and miles of desert, pass through either all of north Africa (from the west) or cross the burning sands of the middle east (from the northeast), passing up many convenient locations, just to end up in another desert in Africa and halt at the borders of so-called "nubia", just so they can create a civilization before everyone else when they could have stayed home and did it?
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Don´t take white history too seriously. I recommend The Races of Europe by Carleton Coon to get a good insight in the issue. It is, of course, full of flaws, but still much more scolarly and better than Kemp.
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Both you suckaz might wanna re-check your grammar before acting too well read on zee topic.

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On White-History.com is says the Egyptians were White because of red hair mummies. OKAY !
Where did these red-heads come from if they existed in large numbers and when did they enter Africa, displacing the native populations that have been there for thousands of years?
Lastly and most importantly, seeing as how these features are most common in Europe, why would they traverse miles and miles of desert, pass through either all of north Africa (from the west) or cross the burning sands of the middle east (from the northeast), passing up many convenient locations, just to end up in another desert in Africa and halt at the borders of so-called "nubia", just so they can create a civilization before everyone else when they could have stayed home and did it?
Sumer predates Egypt by 3,000 years. Sumer had a written language 400 years before white men colonized Egypt.

Hate to break it to you, but Sumer is the middle east. The architecture used to build the pyramids in Egypt was almost identical to those in Sumer. Aryans from the Indus valley traveled towards Africa, Asia, and Europe. These areas close to the Indus Valley were colonized first. Aryans even reached The Americas before Asiatic people. The Mayans, for example built the original Ziggurat/Pyramid structures through out the American continents, and the Aztecs and Mayans wiped them out and copied the designs.

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First of all Sumer was not white and according to National Geographic Egypt was a native development.

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Sumer predates Egypt by 3,000 years. Sumer had a written language 400 years before white men colonized Egypt.

Hate to break it to you, but Sumer is the middle east. The architecture used to build the pyramids in Egypt was almost identical to those in Sumer. Aryans from the Indus valley traveled towards Africa, Asia, and Europe. These areas close to the Indus Valley were colonized first. Aryans even reached The Americas before Asiatic people. The Mayans, for example built the original Ziggurat/Pyramid structures through out the American continents, and the Aztecs and Mayans wiped them out and copied the designs.


This is like a research or an opinion paper without giving any objective sources. This is not it works, you back up your opinion with some strong evidences because anybody can say anything.

Please where are your facts my friend?


Desperate measures i see. The only time middle easterners are white enough for you guys is only when you need them to be.

I bet most of you will never have one of these "aryans" over for dinner.


I want to really learn something from WNs when it comes to who is considered white because when it comes to Ancient Egypt y'all classify Arabs, Jews and other semitic people as white.
You also seem to classify Iranians as white but when they and other Asiatic people come to so called "white countries" you guys start complain that they're really white but GYPSIES.

You guys can't have it BOTH ways either Asiatic people are not white or you guys simply like using them to claim Ancient Egypt since semitic people were close to Africa.

Somebody clarify that for me please.

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On White-History.com is says the Egyptians were White because of red hair mummies. OKAY !
Where did these red-heads come from if they existed in large numbers and when did they enter Africa, displacing the native populations that have been there for thousands of years?
Lastly and most importantly, seeing as how these features are most common in Europe, why would they traverse miles and miles of desert, pass through either all of north Africa (from the west) or cross the burning sands of the middle east (from the northeast), passing up many convenient locations, just to end up in another desert in Africa and halt at the borders of so-called "nubia", just so they can create a civilization before everyone else when they could have stayed home and did it?
Simple answer: we don't know, because there are no written accounts from the period, but sufice it to say, that Whitey migrated to, and populated those areas, for whatever reasons.
The archaelological evidence indicates that they did.
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On White-History.com is says the Egyptians were White because of red hair mummies. OKAY !
Where did these red-heads come from if they existed in large numbers and when did they enter Africa, displacing the native populations that have been there for thousands of years?
Lastly and most importantly, seeing as how these features are most common in Europe, why would they traverse miles and miles of desert, pass through either all of north Africa (from the west) or cross the burning sands of the middle east (from the northeast), passing up many convenient locations, just to end up in another desert in Africa and halt at the borders of so-called "nubia", just so they can create a civilization before everyone else when they could have stayed home and did it?
Burning sand of the middle east? This was at a time when the tigris euphrates valley (the middle east) was lush and fertile, and so was egypt. Its a desert now because of over farming drains the minerals from the soil, the land becomes barren.

The middle east desert is not "sand", not like at the beach, its really really dry dirt, like piles of dust.

Besides people did have boats back then too.
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June 17 — The world's oldest known boat, built 7,000 years ago out of tarry, bitumen-covered slabs, has been found in an unlikely place: the Kuwaiti desert.

If the assessment of British and Kuwaiti archaeologists is correct, the slabs, found covered on one side with barnacles and warehoused in a stone building at a site called As-Sabiyah, would push back the date for the oldest known boat by more than 2,000 years.

According to an upcoming paper in the Proceedings of the Seminar for Arabian Studies and a paper published in the June 7 issue of the journal Science, the current oldest boat record-holder is a vessel found in an Egyptian tomb dating to 3,000 B.C. Evidence for log canoes, thought to be more like rafts than boats, goes back much further, to 8,000 B.C. The age of the entire As-Sabiyah site, including the boat remains, has been carbon-14 dated to 5,511-5,324 B.C.
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Egypt is a good place to start. They were Greeks, not like the greaseball variety you see these days, they were "White" Same thing with the "Italians"

The pyramids were built with slave labor, they bred with the ruling class and ultimately dumbed down the country. This is why they never recovered, their gene pool got so polluted it was unrecoverable.

This is exactly why none of the slave countries survived, they were overrun, just like America.

Not one "White " civilization survived, cause they bought in the cheap labor, and fucked themselves.

Egypt= Dead
Spain=Dead
Italy=Dead
Greece=Dead
America=Dead.

The " White" race has survived, but the jew is not our only problem. We caused a lot of this ourselves too.

Here's a good link and it explains why.

http://www.white-history.com/
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In 1997, the German Institute for Archaeology headed an excavation of the tombs of the nobles in Thebes-West, Upper Egypt. At this time, three types of tissues were sampled from different mummies: meniscus (fibrocartilage), skin, and placenta. Archaeological findings suggest that the mummies dated from the New Kingdom (approximately
1550_/1080 BC)..... The basal epithelial cells were packed with melanin as expected for specimens of Negroid origin."


The people who bear the greatest resemblence to the ancient Egyptians, at present, are the Nubians; and next are the Ethiopians.
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The raw values in Table 6 suggest that Egyptians had the ‘super-Negroid’ body plan described by Robins (1983). The values for the brachial and crural indices show that the distal segments of each limb are longer relative to the proximal segments than in many ‘African’ populations. - Zakrzewski (2003)

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"Art objects are not generally used by biological anthropologists. They are suspect as data and their interpretation highly dependent on stereotyped thinking. However, because art has often been used to comment on the physiognomies of ancient Egyptians, a few remarks are in order. A review of literature and the sculpture indicates characteristics that also can be found in the Horn of (East) Africa (see, e.g., Petrie 1939; Drake 1987; Keita 1993). Old and Middle Kingdom statuary shows a range of characteristics; many, if not most, individuals depicted in the art have variations on the narrow-nosed, narrow-faced morphology also seen in various East Africans. This East African anatomy, once seen as being the result of a mixture of different "races," is better understood as being part of the range of indigenous African variation".


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"Why are the Ethiopians and Egyptians bandy legged? Is it because of that the body of itself creates, because of disturbance by heat, like loss of wood when they become dry? The condition of their hair supports this theory; for it is curlier than that of other nations..."
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Egyptology: Hanging in the Hair

by Anu M'bantu and Fari Supia

F0R YEARS, EGYPTOLOGY has been fighting a losing battle to hold onto an ancient Egypt that is Caucasian or, at worst, sun-tanned Caucasian.

At the 1974 UNESCO conference Egyptology was dealt a fatal blow. Two African scholars wiped the floor with 18 world-renowned Egyptologists. They proved in 11 different categories of evidence that the ancient Egyptians were Africans (Black). Following that beating, Egyptology has been on its knees praying to be saved by science. Their last glimmer of hope has been the hair on Egyptian mummies.

The mummies on display in the world's museums exhibit Caucasoid-looking hair, some of it brown and blonde. These mummies include Pharaoh Seqenenre Tao of the 17th dynasty and the 19th dynasty's Rameses II. As one scholar put it: "The most common hair colour, then as now, was a very dark brown, almost black colour although natural auburn and even rather surprisingly blonde hair are also to be found."

Many Black scholars try skillfully to avoid the hair problem. This is a mistake!

In 1914, a white doctor in Detroit initiated divorce proceeding against his wife whom he suspected of being a "closet Negro". At the trial, the Columbia University anthropologist, Professor Franz Boas (1858-1942), was called upon as a race expert. Boas declared: "If this woman has any of the characteristics of the Negro race it would be easy to find them . . . one characteristic that is regarded as reliable is the hair. You can tell by microscopic examination of a cross-section of hair to what race that person belongs."

With this revelation, trichology (the scientific analysis of hair) reached the American public. But what are these differences?

The cross-section of a hair shaft is measured with an instrument called a trichometer. From this you can get measurements for the minimum and maximum diameter of a hair The minimum measurement is then divided by the maximum and then multiplied by a hundred. This produces an index. A survey of the scientific literature produces the following breakdown:

San, Southern African 55.00
Zulu, Southern African 55.00
Sub-Saharan Africa 60.00
Tasmanian (Black) 64.70
Australian (Black) 68.00
Western European 71.20
Asian Indian 73.00
Navajo American 77.00
Chinese 82.60

In the early 1970s, the Czech anthropologist Eugen Strouhal examined pre-dynastic Egyptian skulls at Cambridge University. He sent some samples of the hair to the Institute of Anthropology at Charles University, Prague, to be analyzed. The hair samples were described as varying in texture from "wavy" to "curly" and in colour from "light brown" to "black". Strouhal summarized the results of the analysis:

"The outline of the cross-sections of the hairs was flattened, with indices ranging from 35 to 65. These peculiarities also show the Negroid inference among the Badarians (pre-dynastic Egyptians)."

The term "Negroid influence" suggests intermixture, but as the table suggests this hair is more "Negroid" than the San and the Zulu samples, currently the most Negroid hair in existence!

In another study, hair samples from ten 18th-25th dynasty individuals produced an average index of 51! As far back as 1877, Dr. Pruner-Bey analyzed six ancient Egyptian hair samples. Their average index of 64.4 was similar to the Tasmanians who lie at the periphery of the African-haired populations(1).

A team of Italian anthropologists published their research in the Journal of Human Evolution in 1972 and 1980. They measured two samples consisting of 26 individuals from pre-dynastic, 12th dynasty and 18th dynasty mummies. They produced a mean index of 66.50.
Ancient Egyptian Wig
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Young Bishari's of North Africa, Egypt, 1890
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Ancient Egyptian wig is made of human hair attached to a net.
18th Dynasty Egypt
The overall average of all four sets of ancient Egyptian hair samples was 60.02. Sounds familiar . . ., just check the table!

Since microscopic analysis shows ancient Egyptian hair to be completely African, why does the hair look Caucasoid? Research has given us the answers.

Hair is made of keratin protein. Keratin is composed of amino acid chains called polypeptides. In a hair, two such chains are called cross-chain polypeptides. These are held together by disulphide bonds. The bulk of the hair, the source of its strength and curl, is called the cortex. The hair shafts are made of a protective outer layer called the cuticle.

We are informed by Afro Hair - A Salon Book, that chemicals for bleaching, penning and straightening hair must reach the cortex to be effective. For hair to be permed or straightened the disulphide bonds in the cortex must be broken. The anthropologist Daniel Hardy writing in the American Journal of Physical Anthropology, tells us that keratin is stable owing to disulphide bonds. However, when hair is exposed to harsh conditions it can lead to oxidation of protein molecules in the cortex, which leads to the alteration of hair texture, such as straightening.

Two British anthropologists, Brothwell and Spearman, have found evidence of cortex keratin oxidation in ancient Egyptian hair. They held that the mummification process was responsible, because of the strong alkaline substance used. This resulted in the yellowing and browning of hair as well as the straightening effect.

This means that visual appearance of the hair on mummies cannot disguise their racial affinities. The presence of blonde and brown hair on ancient Egyptian mummies has nothing to do with their racial identity and everything to do with mummification and the passage of time.
As the studies have shown, when you put the evidence under a microscope the truth comes out. At last, Egyptology's prayers have been answered. It has been put out of its misery



Never mind forget that study EGYPT WAS A CAUCASIAN CIVILIZATION THIS PROVES IT.








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First of all Sumer was not white and according to National Geographic Egypt was a native development.
A Cheesy youtube documentary that revolves around a B Level Sci-Fi flick. Great sources there.



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This is like a research or an opinion paper without giving any objective sources. This is not it works, you back up your opinion with some strong evidences because anybody can say anything.

Please where are your facts my friend?


Desperate measures i see. The only time middle easterners are white enough for you guys is only when you need them to be.
Wrong. The Sumerians were fair skinned, and had red, blonde, brown, and black hair. Blue, green, and brown eyes. It's even documented when the Arabs first traveled to Sumer. It was much like modern day. At first they allowed a few of them in, and tried to help them out. Compassion was their weakness though, and The Akkadians eventually invaded them.

http://wsu.edu/~dee/MESO/SUMER.HTM

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But that was not the end of the Sumerians. The Akkadians abandoned much of their culture and absorbed vast amounts of Sumerian culture, including their religion, writing, government structure, literature, and law. But the Sumerians retained nominal control over many of their defeated city-states, and in 2125, the Sumerian city of Ur rose up against the Akkadians and gained for their daring control over the city-states of southern Mesopotamia. But the revival of Sumerian fortune was to be short-lived, for after a short century, another wave of Semitic migrations signed the end of the original creators of Mesopotamian culture.

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I bet most of you will never have one of these "aryans" over for dinner.
The sand niggers that currently inhabit the region are not Aryan.

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I want to really learn something from WNs when it comes to who is considered white because when it comes to Ancient Egypt y'all classify Arabs, Jews and other semitic people as white.
You also seem to classify Iranians as white but when they and other Asiatic people come to so called "white countries" you guys start complain that they're really white but GYPSIES.
There. You've just learned a little bit, nigger. Read up. Sumer was already established by the time the leeching, semitic trash showed up.

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You guys can't have it BOTH ways either Asiatic people are not white or you guys simply like using them to claim Ancient Egypt since semitic people were close to Africa.

Somebody clarify that for me please.

Sincerely.
Who has ever classified Asiatic people as white??? Are you getting VNN confused with that Pan Aryan forum? I agree. Asiatic people are not white.
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I am not going to argue with you over the Sumerians this is about the race of the Egyptians so prove to me they were anything other than Black.
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"Tutankhamun was not black, and the portrayal of ancient Egyptian civilisation as black has no element of truth to it," Zahi Hawass - Secretary General of the Egyptian Supreme Council of Antiquities - so he should know.
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Hawass took that repudiated and stated that "There is no Scientific evidence in existence which sugguest that the Ancient Egyptians were anything other than Indigenous Northeast Africans".



http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/vi...eID=1414281487


Hawass cannot spout his normal (They were neither black nor Arab) BS while being going against an actual Anthropologist!

Anyways I think the people who went into Egypt and really saw them would be in a better position to racially classify the Egyptians.
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Get off of Hawass go-nads he is not qualified to make any decisions involving Anthropology as HE IS A HISTORIAN. I'm not surprised that the Arab did a back flip when he got word of the French teams reconstruction it's what he wanted.

HAWASS IS A HISTORIAN and has no credentials to make such statement and assert it as fact a he is not and Anthropologist and cannot prove is statements. Refer to the video on the first page in which Hawass and Keita (an actual anthropologist) are interviewed by National Geographic about Ancient Egyptian origins and both state that these peoples were origially of Northeast African origin and states that there is no Scientific evidence to sugguest otherwise.

Hawass, in a 2007 publication of "Ancient Egypt Magazine", also asserted that none of the facial reconstructions resemble Tutankhamun, claiming for example that the French reconstruction ended up with a person that looked French, whose features do not resemble any known Egyptians. He asserts that in his opinion, the most accurate representation of the boy king is the mask from his tomb.[105] In addition, according to the LA Times, the archaeological inspector for the Supreme Council of antiquities, Ahmed Saleh, disagrees with some of Hawass' statements, stating that the procedures used in the facial re-creation made Tutankhamun look Caucasian, "disrespecting the nation's African roots". http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:...lnk&cd=1&gl=us

http://www.ancientegyptmagazine.com/

e Geographical Origins and Population Relationships of Early Ancient Egyptians
Professor S.O.Y. Keita
Department of Biological Anthropology
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Professor A. J. Boyce
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"The nature of the body plan was also investigated by comparing the intermembral, brachial, and crural indices for these samples with values obtained from the literature. No significant differences were found in either index through time for either sex. The raw values in Table 6 suggest that Egyptians had the “super-Negroid” body plan described by Robins (1983). The values for the brachial and crural indices show that the distal segments of each limb are longer relative to the proximal segments than in many “African” populations (data from Aiello and Dean, 1990). This pattern is supported by Figure 7 a plot of population mean femoral and tibial lengths; (data from Ruff, 1994), which indicates that the Egyptians generally have tropical body plans." - Sonia Zakrzewski (2003)


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Ancient Egypt Anatomy of a Civilisation(Paperback) by Barry Kemp (Author) Publisher: Routledge; 2 edition (December 12, 2005) p.54

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Face it.. Europeans and anyone related to them are incapable of such tropical adaptations. There are some things that Europeans and Africans share in common, but high limb to trunk ratio is not one of them. Nor is Black skin:

"Determination of optimal rehydration, fixation and staining methods for histological and immunohistochemical analysis of mummified soft tissues

A-M Mekota1, M Vermehren2

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"Materials and methods In 1997, the German Institute for Archaeology headed an excavation of the tombs of the nobles in Thebes-West, Upper Egypt. At this time, three types of tissues were sampled from different mummies: meniscus (fibrocartilage), skin, and placenta. Archaeological findings suggest that the mummies dated from the New Kingdom (approximately 1550_/1080 BC)...... The basal epithelial cells were packed with melanin as expected for specimens of Negroid origin."
Now the burden of proof is on you! There is no evidence in existence to prove that Egypt was a White civilization. NONE ! So you all must discredit my primary sources, debunked my anthropological studies, and then you must explain how the cultural similarities between Africa and Egypt came about. So here is what you all must do

1 Debunk my Anthropological studies that support the Egyptian civilization to be Black.

2 Debunk my primary sources in which some of the most esteemed and credible historians in the ancient world describe the Egyptians to be Black.

3 Debunk the cultural similarities between Egypt and other parts of Africa

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4 Anthropological studies that prove Egypt was a White Civilization.

5 Primary sources were ancient historians describe the Egyptians as being White.

6 I want to know cultural similarities between Europe and Egypt.
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Exactly their is no evidence that Egypt was anything other than a Black civilization so you resort to images from the 19th century.


Ignorance is bliss. You're quite scholarly by the way. Great research
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This is an x-ray of Tutankhamun's skull.

Which one looks most like Tut's?
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This is an x-ray of Tutankhamun's skull.

Which one looks most like Tut's?
No you have a picture, in which you and anyone else will use a bias subjective observation, which cannot come to a logical and decisive conclusion...Do you understand!


Are you retarded ? This is not a rebuttal many certified anthropologist have looked at ancient Egyptian skeletons and have classified many of them as negriods you posting two skeletons online and then asking me with no experience in anthropology to racially classify to pixies shows your stupidity..

LMAO GTF out of here! You are deluusional for the simple fact that you still hold on to the belief of "white Egypt" in this day in age, despite the overwhelming Scientific evidence flatlining such an outright ignorant and racist assertion!



and Bryan YOU ARE LAME AND HAVE NO ARGUMENT, it's okay that you have nothing intellectually to add to this debate , But this is not the thread for such child like behavior so just click your back arrow back to stormfront and talk about how ni99ers can't read and what not.
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