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John Smithwick
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On Masons: My main focus won't be the Reich, ...

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... it is, at it's foundation, Deist Jewry, which involves much more discussion on their rituals, symbology used, and origins, as well as the history of their introduction into the United States and their collaboration with Jews throughout our Nation's history.
There are several cons to it.

Firstly, no women were allowed until they created separate lodges for them (although this might be a good thing in a similar sense that people shouldn't date in the workplace/spiritual place (better for clarity of mind), but a bad thing in comparison to the idea that we need an ethnic-family-nationalist spiritual congregation centre (what the Jews have)):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freema..._Men_and_Women
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Women_Freemasons

There are only three female lodges in the USA:
http://www.womenfreemasonusa.com/index.html

Secondly, it's globalist and universal (although this could be fine if one's own ethnocentric spiritual worldview was accepted there).

Thirdly, it's rituals and symbols are significantly weighted towards Jewish mythology (but, there's a lot of other stuff):

More: In comparison to Christianity, however, where there is no discussion about anything other than Roman-Jewish myths, Freemasonry was the only organization one could join that would represent philosophy, science, and non-Jewish myths finally (in addition to the Jewish ones). Before the 17th century (1500s), you could exercise your right to disagree with Christ/Jewish-Messiah-insanity (Christianity), but this would be followed-up by your right/obligation to be incinerated alive in the town-square the subsequent week lol, so Freemasonry was a welcomed change in the 18th century (first Grand Lodge was opened in 1717).

Fourthly, it'd actually be a lot of work/money/time to become a Freemason.


Fifthly, given that lectures/sermons are sitting there on YouTube about philosophy and mythology (including the Freemasons version of the same), it's largely an obsolete institution in that most wouldn't want to drive to a building to perform a ritual, recite memorized lines, submit an essay, in order to earn some degree recognized by the Freemasons. The Universal Unitarians would review most the same material without the extra work (however, given that they are essentially leftism on steroids, none here would choose them; by comparison, the Freemasons supposedly disallow political debate in their lodges). The only reason one would go would be for the network (which if one already has friends from childhood and school, one may not need such a network), and then from our perspective, given that you'd be networking with a lot of Sufi Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and Christians from around the world, one would question how much one would want that network. This guy thinks it won't be an issue seeing the dissolution of the White Secular or White Christian majority Mason members in the Q/A lol (he doesn't think the existing Masons will be "picky" in welcoming "modernism"):


From 1959 to present, they lost at least 2/3 of their membership (so it's dying):

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http://www.freemasonryresearchforumq...reemasonry.php

Telling are the statistics published by the Masonic Service Association of North America and others (see note 2), where the U.S. membership total is shown to have declined from its highest point of 4,103,161 members (in 1959) to 1,211,183 members in 2014 (70% decline).

As for Jews, before the Communication Age, the creation of Israel and reformed Judaism (where they allow discussion of philosophy and other myths), I could see Jews using Freemasonry to escape the madness of their own mythology and to network with Gentiles (for political reasons), but today that idea would hold far less value.

The tragedy today is that there's nowhere to go to receive the equivalent of what the Jews have. I want to go to the Church of England to hear about my peoples' history, celebrate our heritage, learn about philosophy and science and useful myths, but there's nothing there. It's like you have to join the CofE to be with Brits, join the Masons to hear about philosophy, join the Asatru Folk Assembly and Druid Order to hear about myths from Northern Europe, join VNN and other organizations to receive explicit ethnic-racial community, join Red Ice Radio to have news for us, join a Canadian nationalist organizations to discuss our politics ... right - just drop a few thousand a year in many membership fees, lose 10x the time towards many organizations as opposed to one, ... divided we fall, whereas Jews just get everything from their synagogues.

It's sad and disturbing. This British descendant had to connect to Freemasonry to receive a worldview and organization he could rely upon when in the severest of life threatening conditions on earth (instead of just getting all of what he sought from something like the Church of England or Scotland (or a British/European Canadian Church/Synagogue)):


But one can understand his perspective because they do at least talk about British history in the Freemasons:

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