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Old August 6th, 2012 #4
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It is also a crucial factor in the Eastern European economy. Greek mining and harbours/shipping/warehousing and transporting are critical for food and fuel distribution throughout Eastern Europe and for Turkey, which depends on Eastern European raw materials.

If the Serbs then moved to recover Kosovo, as they would need to if they were to survive, Albania would go to war with Serbia, and NATO, Russia, Germany, Turkey and the US would all become involved.

If Turkey was badly affected, they could not assist the US in Iraq anymore, nor keep down the Kurds in Turkey, which would need to withdraw troops from Iraq, as would the US. Iraq would then split into three and Turkey would face civil war as the nations spread across the Turk/Iraq border began to unite and form new countries.
You pick up this genius analysis playing Risk? Or Stratego? Germany can take care of Eastern Europe easily. Whatever it can't supply, Russia can.

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They have the critical mass of support, which is what is needed, though they won't have it for much longer unless they reign in their members behaviour and rhetoric.
Wrong. If they'd listened to your type, they'd have had no success at all.

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The support for GD has declined rapidly after the TV incident, their holocaust statements and general behaviour and the media campaign against them.

In the May election, they won 21 seats. In the June election they lost 3 seats, to get 18.
You ought to be a jew with chutzpah like that. Every source out there was predicting a big dip in their fortunes after the first vote and it did not happen. This bothers you so much you lie about it.

What's your real motive, Hugh? It's not objective analysis.

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That's a rounded off 15 percent drop in votes for GD within one month.
Goodwill means nothing if it doesn't translate into votes.
They maintained their level of support against vicious international denunciation - that is a sign of strength, not weakness. Like the rest of its opponents, you counsel the same old cowardice and back-footing while claiming it will lead to victory. Why are you lying, Hugh?

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Parties need the support of trade unions, the church and the civil service to get into government. The food drive will not gain them these peoples support or financial contributions.

Having spent their parliamentary funds, unless they have other money coming in, they will soon begin to run short for salaries, office rental and expenses, promotional material etc.

The US backed pro EU Greek government will wait a while till GD start to experience financial problems, which they will do as the several court cases against them start in the next couple months.
Garbage. Running out of money is no problem. To say that is to misperceive the entire reason the party exists. The danger will come from elements of the Greek elite joining up with the internationalists to try to crush these "neo-nazis" using the standard hate bureaucratic garbage.

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Then just before the next elections, they'll hit them with a series of major lawsuits about racism, antisemitism etc, in order to get them to spend their election funds on lawyers and cases, be demonised in the press, and so lose more support.

People rarely vote for parties they like, they vote for parties they think are likely to win. GD should stick to what works, being pro-Greek and anti-Eu.
Full of lies and bad advice, you are. What's your real agenda, Hugh?

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So you then think that atheist organisations raise more money for charity around the world every day than religious ones, and you think that atheist organisations give out more food on a large scale than religious ones.

Care to name some of these atheist organisations and charities?
Is Golden Dawn religious? No. Do people flock for its food? Yes. Can anyone duplicate its actions? Yes. Nothing else matters.

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Christian churches have been running food drives for around 2000 years.
For how many centuries has the atheist food drive been running, and in how many towns and cities across the world do atheists provide food daily?
Have these universalists ever run Whites-only food drives? Not a single time. And that's what matters.

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Jews ran the USSR, ran the socialist and communist movements worldwide, and helped finance and implement socialist and communist policies to a greater or lesser degree in 70 countries over the last century, including China.
Socialism isn't inherently jewish, but communism is. Jews must be tied to communism and neo-communist cant terms such as 'human rights' and 'hate.' Jews are the source of political globalism (as opposed to international trade) and the international mongrelization called multiculturalism. They must be tied to and identified with these anti-White policies and resisted by nationalists in all nations, who are well advised to support and learn from one another.

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There's no such notion, certainly not in any government, and it's never been a matter of principle. All modern economies are regulated, and getting ever more regulated.
That's why these economies are stagnating. Throw in the funny money, and you have diaster.

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True. I am involved in mainstream politics, and am not interested in what doesn't work, only in what does in real life. One cannot gain political success by taking on Jews, no-on cares about the Holocaust, and no-one wants NS.
Golden Dawn and the original NS they're modeled on show you're wrong. Your focus on dogcatchers ignores that the problems our race faces, in every country, come from the top down. Not the bottom up. There is no way to restore white sovereignty at the local level, only by cutting off the jewish head and putting a new Aryan head on the Aryan body.

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People don't dislike NS because of the Jews, they dislike NS because they don't like highly centralised governments, don't like dictatorships, don't like people who want to enslave them, and don't like people who massacre them.
It's pretty obvious that a lot of people do. Whites are split between those who favor freedom and those who prefer a welfare state.

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Europeans don't dislike Germans because of the Jews. They dislike them because nation after nation out of Germany and Scandinavia such as Goths, Vandals, Franks, Saxons, Vikings have invaded the rest of Europe since Rome fell, plundering, looting and massacring, and keeping most of Europe backward, undeveloped and on the verge of starvation.
This is the dumbest thing I've heard in weeks. Whatever quality England has, pardon me, had, was due to Germanic tribes.

Germans hated? You English would like to think so. The problem is that even bigots like you in the English press inevitably end up, upon visiting Germany, by admitting it is superior to England in virtually every way. To say that Germans are hated is ridiculous. Even with 24/7/365 propaganda against them, Germany is universally respected as a country, and Germans are universally seen as good people to have as neighbors. By contrast, English are seen as illiterate, drunken hooligans and buffoons. And the ceremonies at the Olympics have furthered that perception.

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Since the 1300's the Teutonic knights have massacred the Slavs and invaded the Baltic states.

The Austrians invaded and took over a huge portion of central and Eastern Europe.
Germans built most of the infrastructure in Eastern Europe. Their influence was mostly for the good, and you can even see this alluded to in the great Russian novels when they discuss German characters. It was when German expertise was replaced by jews after the 1917 revolution that Eastern Europe fell apart.

You're simply another English bigot lying about your betters, Hugh. Haven't your people caused enough misery in the 20th century? Isn't it about time you focused on cleaning up your barbaric sandbar rather than maligning your betters?

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Then Europe has WW1, and then WW 2. Germany handed Eastern Europe over to the Jews.
Germany fought the jews. England allied with them.

You're just an English bigot, Hugh. Your kind is the reason Europe is in the pitiful shape it is today, and you keep on with the same garbage.

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Tens of millions have died across Europe as a result, and most of Central Europe has been unable to develop, as every generation or two, either France or Germany will invade, rob them and kill them.
More lies. Most Central European infrastructure was built by Germans. When 15 million Germans were kicked out of Eastern Europe after the war, it was a great tragedy not just for them, but for the countries they left.

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Most Eastern Europeans hate Germany with a passion, and want to see Germany and all Germans burnt to ashes.
That's a big lie. Why are you lying, Hugh?

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Most European nations are small, with few reserves. They are still battling to recover. Germans have the highest standard of living in Europe. Neither they or France are suffering at all.
Thanks to their own efforts. And they've reached out yet again to Eastern Europe, and helped them immensely through honest commercial trade. Just as they did in the pre-jew days.

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Other Europeans look at them and remember their cities being bombed, families killed, they see orphans, widows, famine and epidemics. Neo nazis are lucky they have the police to protect them. Most Europeans, given the chance, would kill neo nazis on the spot.
What's actually going on is Europeans who want to save their countries are starting to realize that in politics, like in many other areas, the Germans were ahead of the rest of the world. The techniques they used are not German, they can be used by anyone. And you claim you care about what's effective? Who's a more effective opponent of the jews than the Nazis? No one. Golden Dawn has figured this out, and copied what works. And for some reason, this really bothers you.

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You NS people are a millstone around the neck of WN.
Yeah, Golden Dawn should be copying Nick Griffin and his unmerry band of illiterate borrebies.

Last edited by Alex Linder; August 6th, 2012 at 01:41 AM.