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Old June 12th, 2008 #49
psychologicalshock
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Can you even explain what any evidence to the presence of teeth on the Treblinka site is supposed to matter for the purpose of proving what happened at Treblinka, especially considering the physical,
The only physical evidence found was by a Soviet and Polish investigation, the Soviet one was an obvious lie whereas the Polish one was a more intricate lie but still identifiable. Such as digging up graves at 7.5 meters when the machinery was incapable of doing so. Generally the conclusion was wrong anyways - the conclusion was that there are no mass graves and at most 50,000 people died on site. In all only 120 remains were found, the claim that the ashes were human has never been proven neither has it been proven that the soil has even been disturbed.

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If you mean Arad's train records then they are obvious lies that most simply avoid and use "estimates" instead. As for a photograph of bones on the top soil, that isn't surprising considering the site was bombed heavily (Likely to remove evidence of it not being a death camp) thus unearthing bodies. The identification of the bones never took place.
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and eyewitness evidence I have shown?
You have to be joking, eye witnesses? The ones who talked about suffocating in a cattle car and being shot in the shoulder by a kar-98 but having their clothes stop the bullet? The ones who claimed there was a water well in the middle of 800,000+ rotting corpses? The ones who claimed that there was a fence covered in dry pinewood surrounding the perimeter of the camp? The ones whose gas chamber designs were downright atrocious and used Diesel?

So even given that the Polish investigation wasn't a fraud there is no proof that a death camp existed except according to witnesses. The gas chambers themselves have never been found (What a surprise) so you're just jumping to conclusions.

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So fucking what, Gerdes? There’s no reason compatible with the evidentiary record of Treblinka why even a single bullet or shell casing need to have been identified. The casings are likely to have been salvaged by the SS after each shooting (the Germans had a war going on and may not have wanted to waste the brass, you know), and identifying molten bullet lead among the mess found after the war on the Treblinka site is not exactly a piece of cake. On the other hand, conclusive eyewitness testimony provided at trials before West German courts, also by the shooters themselves, leaves no room for reasonable doubt about the existence of the "Lazarett" and the shootings that took place there. So it’s completely irrelevant whether or not bullets or shell casings were identified on site. Better get used to the idea.
If they were concerned about resources they wouldn't be wasting precious disinfectant and rare gasoline to kill Jews and hide it. As for brass shells , can you even cite one example of German soldiers collecting shells after a battle to recycle them? I can't remember that happening ever. That and the bullet (9x19 Parabellum) had an iron core so a metal detector would likely be able to pick it up. The fact that the Polaks didn't get that idea is quite surprising.

Last edited by psychologicalshock; June 12th, 2008 at 02:09 PM.