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On the subject of the Third Reich, yes they did ban the Masons:

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Suppression of Freemasonry - Wikipedia

The Enabling Act (Ermächtigungsgesetz in German) was passed by Germany's parliament (the Reichstag) on March 23, 1933. Using the Act, on January 8, 1934, the German Ministry of the Interior ordered the disbandment of Freemasonry, and confiscation of the property of all Lodges; stating that those who had been members of Lodges when Hitler came to power, in January 1933, were prohibited from holding office in the Nazi party or its paramilitary arms, and were ineligible for appointment in public service.[16] Consistently considered an ideological foe of Nazism in their world perception (Weltauffassung), special sections of the Security Service (SD) and later the Reich Security Main Office (RSHA) were established to deal with Freemasonry.[17] Masonic concentration camp inmates were graded as political prisoners, and wore an inverted (point down) red triangle.[18]

On August 8, 1935, as Führer and Chancellor, Adolf Hitler announced in the Nazi Party newspaper, Voelkischer Beobachter, the final dissolution of all Masonic Lodges in Germany.
But they basically suppressed/banned everything else except Jewishmessiahinsanity (Christinsanity/Christianity) lol:

Positive Christianity - Wikipedia
Truth For Germans
Schutzstaffel: SS Officers Inspired By Teutonic Knights

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Odinism/Wotanism | Truth For Germans

An article in a 1995 issue of the Australian Odinist magazine Renewal:

From the beginning of the Third Reich, Odinists (pagans) were generally suppressed. In 1933, Rudolf von Sebottendorff was arrested and exiled. The works of Odinist writers such as Lanz von Liebenfels, Ernst Issberner-Haldane and Reinhold Ebertin were banned. Former membership of an Odinist congregation disqualified anyone from holding rank or office within the NSDAP. In 1936 Friedrich Marby, a runemaster and follower of [Wotan worshipper Guido] von List, was arrested and sent to a camp at Flossenberg; he was released from Dachau in 1945. He was not alone. But the full power of the state was not focused on religious minorities until the 9th of June 1941 when the head of the security police, [Reinhardt] Heydrich, banned a large number of spiritual practices. Among the victims were followers of Rudolf Steiner, followers of von List, and traditional Odinists. Their organizations were dissolved, their property confiscated, and many of their leaders arrested.”
The clampdown in 1941 was the result of the Rudolf Hess flight. Hitler's own words on Paganism:

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Hitler: On Paganism and Heathen Religion, Mein Kampf, Chap. 12
http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-...s-a-christian/
https://mk.christogenea.org/articles...manic-paganism

“On the contrary, it is entirely out of harmony with the spirit of the nation to keep harping on that far-off and forgotten nomenclature which belongs to the ancient Germanic times and does not awaken any distinct association in our age. This habit of borrowing words from the dead past tends to mislead the people into thinking that the external trappings of its vocabulary are the important feature of a movement. It is really a mischievous habit; but it is quite prevalent nowadays.

At that time, and subsequently, I had to warn followers repeatedly against these wandering scholars who were peddling Germanic folk-lore and who never accomplished anything positive or practical, except to cultivate their own superabundant self-conceit. The new movement must guard itself against an influx of people whose only recommendation is their own statement that they have been fighting for these very same ideals during the last thirty or forty years. Now if somebody has fought for forty years to carry into effect what he calls an idea, and if these alleged efforts not only show no positive results but have not even been able to hinder the success of the opposing party, then the story of those forty years of futile effort furnishes sufficient proof for the incompetence of such a protagonist. People of that kind are specially dangerous because they do not want to participate in the movement as ordinary members. They talk rather of the leading positions which would be the only fitting posts for them, in view of their past work and also so that they might be enabled to carry on that work further. But woe to a young movement if the conduct of it should fall into the hands of such people.

It is typical of such persons that they rant about ancient Teutonic heroes of the dim and distant ages, stone axes, battle spears and shields, whereas in reality they themselves are the woe-fullest poltroons imaginable. For those very same people who brandish Teutonic tin swords that have been fashioned carefully according to ancient models and wear padded bear-skins, with the horns of oxen mounted over their bearded faces, proclaim that all contemporary conflicts must be decided by the weapons of the mind alone. And thus they skedaddle when the first communist cudgel appears. Posterity will have little occasion to write a new epic on these heroic gladiators.

I have seen too much of that kind of people not to feel a profound contempt for their miserable play-acting. To the masses of the nation they are just an object of ridicule; but the Jew finds it to his own interest to treat these folk-lore comedians with respect and to prefer them to real men who are fighting to establish a German State. And yet these comedians are extremely proud of themselves.

Notwithstanding their complete fecklessness, which is an established fact, they pretend to know everything better than other people; so much so that they make themselves a veritable nuisance to all sincere and honest patriots, to whom not only the heroism of the past is worthy of honour but who also feel bound to leave examples of their own work for the inspiration of the coming generation. Among those people there were some whose conduct can be explained by their innate stupidity and incompetence; but there are others who have a definite ulterior purpose in view. Often, it is difficult to distinguish between the two classes. The impression which I often get, especially of those so-called religious reformers whose creed is grounded on ancient Germanic customs, is that they are the missionaries and protégés of those forces which do not wish to see a national revival taking place in Germany. All their activities tend to turn the attention of the people away from the necessity of fighting together in a common cause against the common enemy, namely the Jew. Moreover, that kind of preaching induces the people to use up their energies, not in fighting for the common cause, but in absurd and ruinous religious controversies within their own ranks.”
To further elaborate:

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Hitler went to some length to dissociate Nazism from occultism.

In fact Richard Steigmann-Gall, The Holy Reich: Nazi Conceptions of Christianity, 1919-1945 published in April 2003, argues against the consensus that Nazism as a whole was either unrelated to Christianity or actively opposed to it.

He demonstrates that many participants in the Nazi movement believed that the contours of their ideology were based on a Christian understanding of Germany's ills and their cure.
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Hitler compared to God/Jesus

Unfortunately most books about Hitler, from a religious viewpoint, come as bowdlerized accounts containing flagrant inaccuracies. There occur many versions, some of which view Hitler with combinations of occultism, atheism, anti-religion, anti-Christian, etc. Some authors blend the anti-clerical views of Martin Bormann, the mystical beliefs of Rosenberg, or the occult views of Himmler with Hitler in an attempt to rewrite history. Almost all the sources for Hitler's alleged apostasy come from Bormann's edited version of Hitler's Table Talk (for a closer examination, see "Hitler's table talk and other extraneous sources"). But Hitler was not Bormann, Rosenberg or Himmler and their views do not reflect Hitler's beliefs. Hitler abscised himself from the views of Bormann, Rosenberg, and Himmler and he demanded support for his view of "positive" Christianity as was written into the Nazi party program. If you examine the historical record with raw honesty, you will find that these counter-Christian claims about Hitler simply do not hold up.
The Lewiston Daily Sun, Tues Oct 29, 1935
Report: Hitler Ban on Neo-Paganism
Tells Catholic Bishop Anti-Christian Doctrines to Be Curbed

The Lewiston Daily Sun - Google News Archive Search


This was the real tragedy - Hitler banning the Folk Faith movements (i.e. the German Faith) because he didn't want it competing with his government's secular, inadequate, deceptive and self-serving, version of the same:

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Ernst_Graf_zu_Reventlow - Religious_activism - Wikipedia

Reventlow quickly became disillusioned with this (The German Faith Movement) however, returning to Christianity even before the German Faith Movement was suppressed by the government in 1937.
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Deutsche Glaubensbewegung - Axis History Forum

Volkslexicon Drittes Reich, by Ludwig Peters and published by Grabert-Verlag, Tübingen, 1998.

The German Faith Movement (Deutsche Glaubensbewegung) was an attempt to bring together various religious groups and associations into an organization that would exercise religiosity in a purely German sense. The movement was founded on May 23, 1934 in Eisenach by J.W. Hauer, who was elected chairman.

The movement rejected the Christian religion completely and began having manifold difficulties with the Nazi government one year later. As of 1935, the NS party prohibited members of the Hitler Youth and the SS from joining, and from 1937 onward, prohibited NSDAP members from joining. For these reasons, Hauer withdrew from the organization. The movement sank into insignificance thereafter."
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The Holy Reich: Nazi Conceptions of Christianity

The Holy Reich: Nazi Conceptions of Christianity, 1919-1945, By Richard Steigmann-Gall, 2003, pp 151-152.

The DG's insistence that it was the religious expression of Nazism was not taken kindly in the NSDAP.

[...]

Finally, in August 1935, Heydrich forbade all rallies and other public meetings of the DG across the Reich.
Of course, the other reason he banned the German Faith was that he didn't want to lose support from his Jewish Christinsanitian churches lol (he needed their support for a very important reason):
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"Did Religion Cause World War II? - Yahoo Answers Did religion cause Hitler to start World War 2? | Yahoo Answers

No, but religion allowed Hitler to start WWII. A pastoral letter issued by the German Catholic bishops in September 1939 at the outbreak of World War II provides enlightenment on this point. It reads in part:

“In this decisive hour we admonish our Catholic soldiers to do their duty in obedience to the Führer and to be ready to sacrifice their whole individuality. We appeal to the Faithful to join in ardent prayers that Divine Providence may lead this war to blessed success.”

Such diplomacy illustrates the kind of harlotry that religion has engaged in over the past 4,000 years in wooing the political State in order to gain power and advantage. Such religio-political relationships have fostered warfare, persecutions, and human misery on a vast scale.
Similarly:
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Mathilde_Ludendorff - Politico-religious_activity

The faith (Bund fur Deutsche Gotterkenntnis) became the religion of the Tannenbergbund, founded by her and her husband in 1925, a ... organisation which briefly claimed as many as 100,000 followers before losing out to and prohibited by the NSDAP in 1933.[2]
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SCIENTIFIC NEO-PAGANISM AND THE EXTREME RIGHT THEN AND TODAY: FROM LUDENDORFF’S GOTTERKENNTNIS TO SIGRID HUNKE’S EUROPAS EIGENE RELIGION

Part of the umbrella organization was the Verein Deutschvolk (German Volk Society), founded 1930. Its purpose was to disseminate Mathilde Ludendorff’s science-based religious views called Gotterkenntnis (God-knowledge or - cognition). These two organizations which shared many ideas with National Socialism were, for that very reason, prohibited in 1933 (Haack, 1981:139).
I consider Hitler one of my #1 Christ-insanitians lol:
Hitler's greatest influence (Dietrich Eckart):

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Dietrich_Eckart - Ideas_and_assessments

In Christ, the embodiment of all manliness, we find all that we need. And if we occasionally speak of Baldur (a god in Norse mythology), our words always contain some joy, some satisfaction, that our pagan ancestors were already so Christian as to have an indication of Christ in this ideal figure.
To be fair, Hitler also suppressed certain Christian churches:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirchenkampf

But basically, he shut-down any engaging in too much free thought, so your only sources of information was his voice and/or the Church before you returned to the slaughterhouse.

I agree the Masons are overly weighted towards Jewish mythology, but they do reference other mythologies (including the Norse), philosophy and science, so for someone like me who views Christianity as a total indoctrination of the Jews' myths with a Roman version of their Messiah, it would be the healthy escape from the church (and only significant, institutionalized legal one, before the 20th century).

I'm discovering the Mason Lodges are where British nationalists would go to hear about British history and culture (you'd certainly never get to hear any of that at the Church of England (meanwhile Jews get to hear about Jewish patriots at their synagogues without hesitation) - nope at the British Churches, you'll only hear about mythological Jews and their supporters).

This one references the Havamal, and Thor:

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