[Alex Linder]

Originally Posted by Hugh

With difficulty.

Not at all. Of course, one needs a vehicle to start. But after that, you need complete control of details through the entire process. Everything thought out. WN remains mired, with one foot in the yee-ha-ism of the Old South, and the other foot stuck tight in the scared-shitless pile of money-mulcting conservatism.

US WN needs to learn the concept of inner and outer circles.

Foundations with a publicly acceptable outer circle, and which can accept tax free/tax deductible donations are the start. Within those, one can then channel support to the inner circle, and work on the real cause.

Except government approval = government control. (Even assuming you can get 501 status for a racial foundation - Pierce could not.) They can shut a 501c3 down at any time by claiming it's funding terrorism. In practice, the WN that go this route don't start or stay radical, they go bouregois conservative, because it's safe and it's far more lucrative. Look at Vdare, for example. It's radicalism consists in funding Richard Meh-Spencer reading some paper proving some point known 100 years ago to 60-year-old men in some rented hall. That doesn't lead anywhere. 501c3 is tantamount to cooption. The only use for a 501c3 would be to perform genuinely and purely educational missions, such as developing an Aryan School. Something indirectly political, akin to the Catholic law school or the homeschooling college with a evangelical-christian bent.

Written material is essential, but for mass appeal videos are needed. A video of a few minutes, like a news show, can reach thousands. I read somewhere that 10 % of people read newspapers and magazines and books, which seems accurate.

Yeah, but those are the top ten percent, and they're worth a large multiple of the rest.

No video will be truly "mass" unless it goes out over cable tv, unblocked. Which is tantamount to having taken power already. Some youtube videos no matter how popular aren't on that level, although that is one good distribution. Just don't overrate its effect.

That's why we struggle to reach the masses.

We struggle to reach the masses because we don't control the mass media, and can't even buy space in them most times. In the early days of VNN, we tried to buy a space ad in a leftist publication, The Nation, which advertises it's free-speech policy. They fedexed me back a refusal along with the uncanceled check. That's one shitty, unread near-communist publication.

The masses follow the strong lead, they don't need to be persuaded the white cause is right, they already marry white and move white. And mostly even live white. But it's not ideological tot hem, as it is to us. It needs to be made ideological through effective leadership, which it is the business of our enemy to prevent forming, and he has been good at that so far. One of his cleverest strategies is to create imitation white leaders who claim the 'west is committing suicide,' as opposed to be murdered, or that 'whites are doing it to themselves,' rather than having it done to them.

Football is well financed, players well paid and government supported, its leaders can do and say as they please, the players have little say, coaches have immense power. US WN is the opposite.

No kidding. The point is, WN needs money and proper technical support, just as a successful football team does. Although this is not its most important need, as I have always maintained. The money follows the bravery or success.

Most WN starts with trade unions, and the men in them love playing sports, the rougher the better.

Most European nationalism recruits its core from the soccer ultras, hard core sports fans, particularly at international games, when national feelings run high.

Europe is different from America, in this regard. We have an entirely different tradition, with both negative and some positive aspects.

The key is to focus on what-who is preventing our kind from organizing and getting what it wants. Organizing has never been a difficulty for any white people. Therefore, it is some external force preventing us from doing it today. We know what that force is. Pretending it doesn't exist, as many so-called WN do, doesn't make that power go away or reduce the need to confront it head on.

Whilst the leadership of the EDL in the UK were fakes, their followers were not. Within months, the message had recruited thousands and thousands. The leaders have now destroyed the EDL, but the message lives on, and spreads. In time, it will find genuine organisers.

As very often, you're missing the point. The state backed EDL - the media supported it. Purely because it was pushing a pro-jew line. That you don't acknowledge that throws your motives into question. Jews let muslims into the UK. Then they prop up a fake-opposition anti-muslim party.

It will be the same in the US. A focus on the issues and message relevant to Whites in the US today, not other countries decades ago, and WN in the US will take off.

Then why hasn't it? Because the system combines as one to crush anyone speaking honestly to real, felt white needs. You're just another guy claiming the failure is mechanical when it's not. It's systemic. The system created in the 60s exists to suppress white identity so that jews and blacks can feed off white money and other assets.

The insistence that WN is only true WN if it worships other parties from other countries in other times is a major factor in its irrelevance for most Whites, especially poor ones, who make up the bulk of WN, as they have the most to win from government change.

As you know, you're employing a strawman argument, which, as you know, is a logical fallacy. What you're trying to distract attention from is the fact that other men in other countries faced a problem remarkably similar to our own - and solved it. We would be fools not to pay attention to their words. The fact their writings from nearly 100 years ago are more apposite to our predicament today than the writings of anyone on the right is hair-raisingly amazing and suggestive. Those men you Little English bigots hate were on to something.

If US WN focused more on mass appeal via sports, and better, more normal music, instead of mostly untalented screaming, and on the issues unemployed Whites face, it would go far.

American sports aren't politicized as they are in Europe. They're a consumer spectacle, not an ersatz nationalism, except in the overall sense.

It's mostly an intellectual exercise at present, necessary in the early stages.

Whites have been organized repeatedly in the 20th century, and all their organizations were smashed by the enemy - the jew behind the system and the state. That's the fact of the matter. That is the understanding WN must have going in, rather than pretending our cause is treated like any other group. Just look at what is going on in Greece for an example of supposedly neutral democratic machinery in operation.

Unplanned action, without forethought, means nothing.
Actions planned within wider strategy make changes happen.

That's true. And I've written the general plan. Even without a party, we can change our culture - which is why I post all this sports strategy stuff, because changing a culture is a large necessity within WN. We need to separate and elevate our cause, and we do this not by chumming around with conservatives, as MacDonald and James Edwards do, but by attacking them. Our cause must be a jealous cause. As the wise Patrick Buchanan said, rising movement are intolerant. WN are generally too liberal and squishy for anyone to take seriously. Who likes who is a matter for 12-year-old girls, not grown men, but I despair of making white nationalists understand this.