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Old April 2nd, 2008 #42
Hunter Wallace
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Originally Posted by Alex Linder View Post
In fact, Zmirak removed an entire post, giving up on censoring it.

This success can be repeated. It takes only a couple people posting to get the pallids to turn tail on their own words.

Drive 'em off their own sites - it's fun!

Nothing funnier than seeing these "old-school" conservatives run shrieking from the words of Burke, a jew-despiser.

I singlehandedly forced him to start banning commentators. In fact, I embarrassed him so bad one time that he deleted his entire essay. Here is the post that got me banned from TakiMag:

http://blog.odessa-syndicate.com/200...ecessary-wars/

A response to John Zmirak’s latest argument that the Second World War and Cold War were “good wars.”

It would have been much easier if Zmirak had simply said that wars which are “good for the Vatican” (WW2, Cold War) are “justified” and are fought on behalf of “America’s interests,” whereas those where the Church has no real stake (Spanish American War, WW1, Iraq) are bad. The Founders would certainly have objected to the notion that we are “morally obligated” to rake the Vatican’s coals out of the fire; more likely, they would have laughed. As non-Catholics, I don’t think they ever considered the question.

There was a classic debate about American foreign policy during the Washington administration in the 1790s. Jefferson was a partisan of anti-clerical Revolutionary France (at least until the Terror). Hamilton and Adams were pro-British. The argument that Napoleon, who was certainly more anti-clerical than Hitler ever was, qualified as an immoral monster was found to be an uncompelling reason to violate our neutrality. Jefferson would later embargo both combatants and cut a deal with Napoleon known to history as the Louisiana Purchase. America stayed out of European conflicts until the Great War, which was later rightly categorized as a blunder, and then again until FDR couldn’t figure out how to fix the Great Depression. We have been in intervention mode ever since; on a permanent war fighting various “totalitarians,” every single one of whom we have deliberately antagonized into conflict.

Adolf Hitler did not have the slightest interest in the Western Hemisphere. He deliberately avoided trying to antagonize the U.S. government. Even FDR’s hagiographers like Conrad Black admit that it was FDR who baited Hitler into attacking the United States, and that FDR lied us into the Second World War. If we had ignored the Third Reich, the SS would never have come storming into Pennsylvania. Even if Hitler had desired to attack North America, he would have been unable to do so. This was proven in the war itself when the American homeland suffered no damage. The threat posed by Hitler to the U.S. was a hyped up lie spun by self-interested warmongers who wanted Americans to needlessly die for their pet cause. Not a single American life had to be wasted in either of the World Wars.

It was Great Britain which sought war with Germany, not the other way around, in pursuit of its antiquated “balance of power” strategy on the Continent. Hitler did not desire war with Britain either. During the 1920s, he entertained the geopolitical delusion that he could form an alliance with England, and only gave up on this fancy after he was firmly rebuffed. His programme is easy enough to understand: reunion of German minorities with the Reich, rearmament, and expansion to the east at the expense of the Soviet Union. Hitler’s goal was to make Germany the dominant power in Central Europe and a colonial power in Eastern Europe. He wanted Russia and Poland to play the role of Germany’s India. Hitler didn’t originally envision German troops in places like North Africa or Greece, much less in Australia or North Dakota!

As immoral as that agenda might be, it was not in the least bit different from our stated intention to exclude European powers from the Western Hemisphere, or Belgium’s rule over the Congo, or the Netherland’s control over the Dutch East Indies, French imperialism in Algeria and Indochina, or Britain in India, the Middle East, and many other places besides (only recently had the British departed from Ireland). The objective of the “militarists” was merely to redistribute the loot amongst the European imperial powers.

Colonial squabbles of this sort should have been of no concern to Americans. Back then we were secure between two vast oceans and produced almost everything we needed here at home. Neither Japan, Italy, or Germany ever launched a successful invasion of the American homeland. The Soviet Union never tried and could not have done so because it would have invited annihilation. Even if the USSR had conquered all of Europe, Americans would have been as secure as they were in the 1960s.

The threat posed by the USSR was similarly hyped up. The Soviet Union was unable to control … Yugoslavia and Albania. It was defeated and forced to withdraw in Afghanistan. The Warsaw Pact was formed in response to the creation of NATO. Stalin withdrew his troops from Austria. He supported German reunification too, but Adenauer and the U.S. objected to “neutralism,” on the grounds that Oder-Neisse was not a legitimate border. West Germany later recognized it anyway. Gorbachev and the Western Europeans ended the Cold War because it suited them to do so. Russia exchanged its perimeter of satellites for security and economic assistance, Germany was reunified, and Western Europe got trade and natural gas. American militarism accomplished nothing there either.
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