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Old July 9th, 2010 #861
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The Judenpresse has gone silent on this mess. We urgently need to find someone to interview Steele and get his message to the outside world. April would be a good woman for the job but she is at least 250 road miles away from where Steele is in Spokane Washington. I am 1,500 road miles away. Who lives closer and can get the job done?
At 250 miles, April would be a good bet...and since she knows him. However Mike Piper knows him also, at least partially. I would rather Piper be the one because he is a good investigative Journalist ...on our side of truth and I respect his opinions and judgment.
Plus he travels all the time, so he's probably used to it. He might be mad at me for volunteering him though. But we do need to have one of our own visit and feel Ed out on his side of this story. That way we can help him moreso. Good idea just the same about April. Why don't you ask her to go? I don't know April, so I cannot ask her.
 
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It would seem highly unlikely that anybody would speak publicly in such a situation.
 
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At 250 miles, April would be a good bet...and since she knows him. However Mike Piper knows him also, at least partially. I would rather Piper be the one because he is a good investigative Journalist ...on our side of truth and I respect his opinions and judgment.
Plus he travels all the time, so he's probably used to it. He might be mad at me for volunteering him though. But we do need to have one of our own visit and feel Ed out on his side of this story. That way we can help him moreso. Good idea just the same about April. Why don't you ask her to go? I don't know April, so I cannot ask her.
April has a lot of mouths to feed. She can't afford eight hours of driving time and over $100 of gas and lodging expenses. She also has a six-year old to care for. We need to find someone in Coeur d' Alene or the Spokane area to do the job. They should be equipped with press credentials.
 
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April has a lot of mouths to feed. She can't afford eight hours of driving time and over $100 of gas and lodging expenses. She also has a six-year old to care for. We need to find someone in Coeur d' Alene or the Spokane area to do the job. They should be equipped with press credentials.
Well then that would be Piper, since he is a reporter for Americanfreepress and has done 100's of interviews.

As to who would speak in such situation. I thik Steele would love to tell his side to someone who is on his side. I know how it feels to have no one on your side when you want to tell everyone what is really happening, that MSM does not report. It would help him to turn the negative public opinion generated by the MSM with there biased coverage.
 
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Mike Piper has a good friend named Mark Glenn that lives in Idaho, also an investigative reporter.
 
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At 250 miles, April would be a good bet...and since she knows him. However Mike Piper knows him also, at least partially. I would rather Piper be the one because he is a good investigative Journalist ...on our side of truth ......
Hmmm, I didn't know that "truth" had several "sides".

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Well then that would be Piper, since he is a reporter for Americanfreepress and has done 100's of interviews.

As to who would speak in such situation. I thik Steele would love to tell his side to someone who is on his side. I know how it feels to have no one on your side when you want to tell everyone what is really happening, that MSM does not report. It would help him to turn the negative public opinion generated by the MSM with there biased coverage.
It looks like Piper is in Washington DC. That makes it even less practical. We need a local hate reporter.
 
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The only people Edgar Steele needs to be talking with are his legal team, investigators, and maybe his family. He would be a fool to talk with anyone other than those people prior to trial. The downside of any conversation while in jail is that they are all recorded. Even those taking place between glass.
 
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Hmmm, I didn't know that "truth" had several "sides".

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Mike Piper has a good friend named Mark Glenn that lives in Idaho, also an investigative reporter.
Thanks , I forgot about Glenn
 
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The only people Edgar Steele needs to be talking with are his legal team, investigators, and maybe his family. He would be a fool to talk with anyone other than those people prior to trial. The downside of any conversation while in jail is that they are all recorded. Even those taking place between glass.
I don't agree! He will be telling us how he did not do it and how he could not have done it. His legal experts are jailhouse bought and paid and are not on his side, I know, been there done that. They don't even come to visit and get your story before trial.
Some of you that have never been in the situtation need to quit speculating. I speak from experience. If you have not been arrested and facing phony charges then please
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P.S. It's exactly like in David Dukes book, the chapter "Belly Of The Beast" from My Awakening. Well not in each instance of damn near close. You don't realize how worthless and cruel people are. Just wait until you rely on Black nurses to give you a simple pain reliever for a headache or toothache. They hate you, because they know your charges. One Mexican Guard had it in for me too, even as I was a model prisoner.
Many of the white guards are worthless trash and I would rather have the black guards in most aspects. You meet all kinds of weirdo's in jail and get thrown in a cell with them, many are as crazy as it gets and psychotic in every aspect. The noise is in itself unbearable and you never sleep until sheer exaustion just falls over you, you starve to death and you look like a pow after only a month in the place. No telling what they do to the food they serve you, that is entrusted to dirty people that serve it and bring it to the dorms. YOU have no clue.
 
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Their number one reason to arrest you is to wear you down and break your spirit, put fear in your soul, so you will shut up. And if they can get by with it and you cannot afford your own attorney, to put you in prison or give you a record, so that they can have one on you for the next time they want to unjustly prosecute you. Most of you in this forum have no clue and you have never faced the idea of going to prison for doing absolutely nothing against any law. The corruption is what scares you and the silence of friendly folks who are supposed to be on your side. I know Ed wishes their was a firestorm going on outside demanding his rights be observed...but instead he sits isolated from even his family. So you who suggest he needs only to speak with the legal tem, you are dead wrong, there is no legal team, just one who works for the same ones who set him up. I believe in his innocence.
 
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Hmmm, I didn't know that "truth" had several "sides".

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By the way Walter, this is not "Rambo" taking on the system. It is not a movie, it is not a play or act... it is REAL. Steele faces the end of his life if put in prison for ten years. Use your noggin.
 
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Many of the white guards are worthless trash and I would rather have the black guards in most aspects.

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April has a lot of mouths to feed. She can't afford eight hours of driving time and over $100 of gas and lodging expenses. She also has a six-year old to care for. We need to find someone in Coeur d' Alene or the Spokane area to do the job. They should be equipped with press credentials.
I'd suggest that one of you reach-out to Dave Barley's Church. His wife, Martha, is the late Sheldon Emry's daughter-- and she's real quality. In the past, I've been impressed with the character of young men that attend. Have a good man, as opposed to an idiot or a troll here, humbly ask for their counsel rather than telling them what to do as they may have a better handle on local politics and maybe even have someone who knows Ed. Someone solid on that end should be able to discern whether its a good idea.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Kaminski"
To: "Ingri Cassell" ; "Dr. Allen Banks"
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 12:44 PM
Subject: Kaminski: Feds 'disappear' Edgar Steele

Feds ‘disappear’ Edgar Steele

New book about Israeli slavery ring seen triggering government’s abduction

By John Kaminski
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Controversial Patriot writer and lawyer Edgar J. Steele, already jailed on suspicious charges that he tried to kill his wife with a pipe bomb, has been mysteriously removed from from a Spokane, Washington detention facility and taken to an undisclosed location, according to close friends of the Steele family.

In a letter to his friend Ingri Cassell, Steele wrote that the charges of attempted murder are preposterous and blamed his hired handyman - Larry Fairfax, a known FBI informant — for trying to cover up his own theft of silver bullion from Steele’s property by trying to kill both Steele and his wife.

As the enclosed letter reproduced below indicates, Steele has been held virtually incommunicado after an initial court hearing June 11 determined he was trying to intimidate witnesses — in this case his wife and son — by instructing them on how to respond to FBI interrogation. Steele also claimed that tape recordings introduced as evidence were not authentic and had been doctored by the FBI in its attempt to authenticate the trumped-up charges.

Steele, 64, has a worldwide audience of tens of thousands of Patriot aficionados accumulated both from his noble record of public actions as well as his Conspiracy Pen Pal website. All these folks are nervously awaiting word of his condition and legal status.

Steele has suffered a recent heart attack and had other medical problems after which his close knit family nursed him back to health. Some observers feel that the heart attack was induced by forces unknown. His friend Dr. Allen Banks described it like this: “Basically the top of his heart blew off. Ed told me it felt like something had ‘gone off’ on his chest.” Steele also had three other surgeries in recent months, as well as chronic nosebleeds that remain unexplained.

Steele most recently published a book titled “Defensive Racism,” and is perhaps best known for his defense of the Church of the Aryan Nations in a sensational 2000 court trial which he ultimately lost. Friends speculated on why Steele would have been the focus of such intense federal interest at this time, and both Banks and Cassell indicated that it might have been because Steele was working on a new book about Israeli international slavery practices and its ties to several European governments.

As to whether the government’s charges are legitimate, Steele’s many friends and readers all suspect a government witchhunt on the order of what happened to Randy Weaver, George Hansen and Gordon Kahl. Weaver was set up by a government informant in 1992 in which his son and wife were killed, better known as the Ruby Ridge incident. Hansen was the Idaho congressman who tried to start an investigation of the IRS, but then was arrested on a pretense and shuttled around the country so his friends couldn’t find him. And Kahl, another tax protester, was murdered by federal agents in a particularly grisly incident in 1983 after his decades of principled patriotic tax protests.

Steele’s friend Dr. Banks put it this way. “This whole thing isn’t logical. Ed is a very intelligent man. Intelligent men don’t hire their plumber to kill their wife and mother in law. Plus, he has been quite ill over the past year.”

The likelihood of the government’s charges being true are “close to zero,” said Banks, who is chairman of the Bonner Country Republican Party. “The likelihood of the government’s charges against being false are close to 100 percent,” Banks added.

Although Steele has been denied phone privileges while in custody in Spokane, and he has been prevented from seeing most of the letters of support that have been sent to him, at least one did slip through, and Steele managed to get a response to the sender, Ingri Cassell, widow of the late Don Harkins, founder of the now-defunct newspaper, The Idaho Observer. Cassell is also the founder of the Vaccine Liberation website.

Steele’s message to Cassell, the only known communication to the outside world since his arrest, is here reprinted in its entirety.

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Dear Ingri,

Thank you for your letter.

All calls out are almost nonexistent. I was looking forward to seeing you and Al yesterday. I suppose they just turned you away? I haven't had a single visitor here so far and only barely been allowed to see my public defender. I'm not allowed to call my lawyer even until next week.

I am in Max Security, full lockdown, solitary confinement. Worse even than the treatment accorded Matt Hale. Most of mail is returned to senders — usually because of their using letters instead of full first and last names in the review in the return address.

OK. I am innocent, for what that is worth in Amerika today. Here is what happened:

My hillbilly handyman stumbled across a stash of silver bullion in one of my outbuildings — then searched and found two others (@ $15,000 & $45,000 total). Knowing I would discover the theft & know it was him. He tried to kill me with two pipe bombs he placed on the cars he knew I drove. They both failed to go off. Cyndi left town with one before he removed it, which led to the discovery of the car bomb on our Mitsubishi SUV.

This guy had offered to be a hit man before, more than once, but I dismissed him as a harmless buffoon. I had told him of the ADL & its hatred for me. This murder-for-hire plot is beyond my hillbilly hitman, so I assume he went to the ADL, which either fabricated tapes that he played for the FBI recorder or produced a mimic of me to make the tapes for the FBI on the spot. Regardless, I have been framed and set-up! BTW, the ADL was quoted extensively in the government's opening papers in court.

I haven't heard from my wife or son and fear they have been convinced by the U.S. Attorney Prosecutor of my guilt. I feel totally abandoned. What can you and others do? Ingri, I honestly don't know. Obviously, this is going to trial. I may well be convicted, which will be the same as a death sentence at this stage of my life. I am So depressed. I never expected them to come after me like this.

You may share this with others, even posting it on VNN and SF (With my address so they can write me - please write me - but tell them to put their full names and addresses [as a clear return address] on the envelopes).
[Note: at this time, we do not know his whereabouts. His address is/was - from the return on my envelope from him -

Edgar Steele #361857
Spokane County Jail
W. 1100 Mallon
Spokane, Wash. 99260-0320


Love, Edgar
When asked why Steele would have anything to do with Fairfax, a known drug informant in the northern Idaho area, Dr. Banks added a little more detail about the man known only as “Larry the Plumber” to Steele’s closest friends.

“Ed had him build a new garage with secret compartments, so obviously Larry would have known where they were.”

Ingri Cassell, well known in Idaho Republican and health circles, told of her conversations with Edgar’s wife Cyndi.

“For the record, I have been following the Edgar Steele fiasco since he was arrested on June 11, 2010 and kidnapped from his home in Sagle, Idaho. For a mainstream canned report, here is a link - N Idaho Attorney Charged In Murder

“Although I had a flurry of other activities I was committed to at the time, I managed to visit with his wife, Cyndi Steele, for two hours on June 21. I wrote Edgar Steele a letter on July 1, 2010 requesting that he call me collect. That never happened, nor the anticipated visit since I was told that he was allowed only one visitor a week and it is a big trip to make only to be turned down.

“Since I had another appointment in Spokane on July 7, I went to the Spokane County Jail and was told that he was in the custody of the U.S. Marshals, was not allowed visitors and could not even make a collect call. At this point I was concerned that he never received my letter.

“On the following day I heard from a friend who lives in Spokane and has tried diligently to visit Edgar Steele. When she went to the jail on July 8, she was told that he had been moved 30 minutes ago to an undisclosed location. And then I received the following letter today, July 9. Following this letter is a letter I am sending to our Idaho state representatives that represent the people in the District where Edgar and Cyndi Steele once lived. Cyndi is so traumatized by this ordeal that she is no longer living in her home, and is in a safe house with friends -- the Steele's former home is in shambles from the raid with floor boards and walls ripped apart... and many of their valuables stolen.”

But the current story does not end there. On the day of Steele’s most recent “disappearance,” Cassell reports that federal agents went to Steele’s house and tore it apart, removing books and papers, computers, and lots of valuable silver.

Cassell reported the event in a letter to three Idaho state lawmakers, Sen. Sen. Keough, and Reps. Eskridge Eric Anderson. The text of the letter follows:

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“On June 11, 2010, a resident of Sagle, Idaho for 20 years was arrested by Idaho State Police and an agent of the FBI with the assistance of a Bonner County deputy. Edgar is well-known as a defender of politically unpopular opinion, acting as a pro-bono attorney for the politically incorrect and a man who admittedly pushes the limits of free speech.

“He was preparing to go to Spokane on June 11 with a trailer to pick up some lumber for a building project and had asked his friend Allen Banks to join him on the drive into Spokane as he has recently been in very poor health. When Dr. Banks arrived at Edgar's home, he was barred access to the house by Idaho State Police officers, but could hear talking from inside prior to Edgar emerging from the house in handcuffs and being placed in the back of one of the ISP vehicles and driven away. He later witnessed eleven cars carrying agents of the FBI at the house, conducting a search, removing precious metals and other personal items.

“Allen had no idea what was going on other than an FBI agent coming out of the house momentarily, at the time of Edgar's arrest, to declare that he had all he needed on tape and that he was convinced of Edgar's guilt.

“On that same day, The Idaho Statesman and Coeur d'Alene Press printed stories vilifying Edgar's character and claiming that he had hired his handyman to kill his wife and mother-in-law. These stories continued for the following days claiming that the handyman decided to reveal the plot to the FBI on the previous Wednesday before any harm could be done.

“There are a number of holes in this story which any child could describe. For example, the "handyman", Larry Fairfax, has been a federal drug informant in this area for many years. His prior membership in Aryan Nations suggests that he was a federal informant during those years.

“Based upon his history it is not unreasonable to assume that he is still a paid federal informant placed at the Steele household to defame this politically unpopular Sagle resident. The claim that Edgar wanted the life insurance money from the death of his wife also doesn't hold up — enough personal wealth was removed from the Steele residence by the FBI that the life insurance policy angle does not seem believable.

“Strangely, when the informant handyman ‘came clean’ he failed to mention the pipe bombs he had placed on the Steele vehicles. These were later discovered during a routine oil change. The story and the details of the "plot" so far revealed are bizarre enough that many believe the case to be a complete fabrication, not unlike those fabricated by the Soviet era thugs of the KGB. If such a story can be fabricated to destroy a politically incorrect resident of Sagle, what can these same federal police officials concoct to destroy one of us? There are so many problems with this story that many of us have grave concerns for our safety as Idaho and Bonner County residents.

“While first confined at the Kootenai County Jail, Edgar, an Idaho resident, is now held in another state — Washington. I went to the Spokane County Jail on Wednesday to visit Edgar Steele. The woman at the desk told me that he is not allowed ANY visitors other than his attorney, he cannot make collect phone calls, and he is in custody of the U.S. Marshal Service.

“However, when I called the U.S. Marshal office in Spokane, I was told that Edgar is not in their system. I was referred to the FBI which only was available as a recording. I left a message on a recorder. Another friend went to the Spokane County Jail on Thursday (7-8-10) and was told that he ( Steele) had been moved a half hour earlier to an undisclosed location.

“This is beginning to resemble the George Hansen case where Idaho Congressman George Hansen was kept for nearly two years without trial, moved from one federal detention facility to another just ahead of his friends who were frantically trying to locate him so they could obtain his release. His crime? Allegedly he was being held without trial for errantly filing some congressional disclosure forms. His real crime? Asking for a congressional investigation of the IRS.

“Edgar's wife, Cyndi Steele, and his children, Nicole, Rex and Kelsey, are not allowed any communication with him. Cyndi is not living in their home anymore - too traumatic to live in a home that has been left ripped up (floor boards/walls) after the removal of valuables and other personal belongings.

“She is in shock trying to avoid the media circus and has been unavailable except to close friends. I happened to arrange a meeting with her for two hours on June 21 after she had watched two of three video/audio tapes. Apparently Edgar had been videotaped over a nearly six month period, with agents invading her property while she lived and slept there, without her knowledge. What she shared with me in detail makes me more convinced than ever of this man's innocence. You see, my late husband and I had been at social gatherings with Edgar and Cindy and had been in their home on several occasions, both of us considering Edgar and Cyndi to be our friends. Not only that, but at least an investigator working on this case, Tim Schwering of the Federal Public Defenders Office has also noted that there is something terribly wrong about this case. Please feel free to call me.

“I am deeply concerned and need to know what you can do to intervene to make sure that Edgar is safe, protected and that his right to due process is restored.”
So here once again we have the ruthless power of federal law enforcement coming down on Patriots who are fighting for everyone’s liberty by breaking the laws they are supposed to uphold and enforce. Steele’s abduction by law enforcement is not only in the sinister tradition of government coverups on display during the Waco massacre, the Oklahoma City bombing and the destruction of the World Trade Center in New York City on 9/11, all of which were followed by massive stonewalling and spin.

The longer Edgar Steele’s whereabouts remain unknown, the less likely this Patriot freedom fighter’s chances for survival seem to be. Perhaps the only thing that can save Steele at the point is a massive public outcry at the injustice being done to someone is merely trying to tell the truth about the nasty and immoral things our government is doing in our names.

To this end, concerned supporters of Steele and liberty-loving members of the public at large are urged to deluge the following agencies with telephone calls of protest.

U.S. Marshal’s office, Coeur d’Alene: 208-667-6840; Spokane 509-353-2999.
FBI Spokane 509-747-5195; Coeur d’Alene: 208-664-5128.
Idaho State Police, region 1: 208-769-1433.
Idaho Attorney General: Lawrence Wasdin, 208-334-2400.
Bonner (Idaho) County Sheriff: 208-263-8417.

John Kaminski is a writer who used to live on the Gulf Coast of Florida, but is now elsewhere, at an undisclosed location, and worried that if one person can be made to disappear by federal agents who disagree with a person’s political perspective, then no one in this country is safe from a law enforcement tyranny that makes a mockery of the phrase “liberty and justice for all.” John Kaminski
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Perhaps the only thing that can save Steele at the point is a massive public outcry at the injustice being done to someone is merely trying to tell the truth about the nasty and immoral things our government is doing in our names.


Or perhaps a group of dedicated men with spec-ops training should liberate him from his prison, go after the ones who have imprisioned him and make sure they have so much shit in their boots that they don't try this again.
 
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I don't agree! He will be telling us how he did not do it and how he could not have done it. His legal experts are jailhouse bought and paid and are not on his side, I know, been there done that. They don't even come to visit and get your story before trial.
Some of you that have never been in the situtation need to quit speculating. I speak from experience. If you have not been arrested and facing phony charges then please
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Listen up, asshole. I've stood before five criminal juries. I think I know a bit more about the process than you ever will. Steele needs to keep his mouth shut until trial as anything he says before hand will be used against him or to his detriment. **** you and the horse you rode in on.
 
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Steele should have gone to the local police the second Fairfax uttered the first words described above. This is why I will call out anyone talking to me about anything questionable. And I've had two different people discuss potentially unlawful behavior during telephone conversations. I immediately tell them that I will not be a party to conversations that involve unlawful activity and hang up on them.

One was a retired military officer and the other works for the federal government. I've known the first for about a 15 years and the other since I was in high school. The second one called me about a month ago and brought up a topic I had posted on a social networking website. What was odd about that is that he isn't on this particular site and isn't on my list. Clearly someone or some organization put him up to that conversation as I can't imagine how he would have thought to ask me about something as obscure as that particular subject.

Everyone should be especially careful these days and if someone mentions anything even remotely unlawful you should make certain that you object as loudly as possible and let them know that you will not be a party to any conversation or activity involving criminal behavior. They may likely be recording you either by a wire on their body or through a telephone wire tap.
 
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