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[well worth reading through, some interesting comments]

Posted by anymouse on August 20, 2011, 08:36 PM | #

Matt Parrott please don’t make me out to be a liar. In the past you have posted comments in the forum attacking me and have done everything you could to let me know how you feel about me. So don’t play the hypocrite. - Barbara

You’re not lying. You’re not dreaming it up. This behavior toward you is fully consistent with the experience of others. It is a product of Regnery’s “invi$ible hand$.” His people are hell bent on repackaging Fifties “Americanism” and repeating the tactical failures of the past. People like you are intentionally marginalized or driven out.

There is little to be done at present. That will change in time.

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A sensible comment from CC, here.

And GW sensibly responds as expected, here.

Regnery’s sycophants would merely replace the jew-gentile alliance with themselves. Serving Money first and last their “racialist” reforms could only return the U.S. to a time when multiracialism didn’t hurt as badly. The effects would be short-lived, however - one or two generations at best. The heirs of Regnery’s “racialist” elite would resell all gains to jewry tomorrow. After all, money talks and bullshit walks. Right?
 
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[As far as I know I'm the only one to mention this publicly, altho certainly not the first to grasp it, since it's the working strategy of Vdare, Dead Fat Sam, and others]

The intellectual movement is all one way: from conservatism to racialism. That doesn't mean every conservative becomes a racialist, obviously, it means such movement as there is is like the traffic flow out of Eastern Maryland back to DC on summer weekend sunday nite. It's all one way. But again, that's intellectually.

The other movement is social-professional from racialism back to conservatism. Because that's where the money is: serving the middle class pulled punch for a hefty price.

Then you've got the natural-born hinters and winkers: the Sam Francises, James Edwards, the posers at alternative-right. These are the have-it-both-ways crowd. They pose and play at radicalism while never using slurs or anything that would actually move them out of the respectable camp. This is supposed to provide some great political benefit, as opposed to mere personal benefits. Of course, those benefits are hypothetical.

Even now, keep an eye on Greg Johnson and you can see him begin to be pulled away from racialism and back toward safe, respectable conservatism, with every eyebat fluttered his way by Dick Spencer and his merry band of Safe-Lites. Johnson has backslid on two specific things, and that's without my paying much attention: he backslid on his original reaction to Breivik's attack, and he backslid on his former argument against me re forming a new elite vs influencing the existing elite.

Then you've got MacDonald, whose academic writings about, which amounts to against, jews must be separated from his political advocacy for whites. The former is good; the latter is bad. MacDonald, I believe due to his temperament and generation, cannot escape conservatism as a mindset and approach, no matter how intellectually clearly he grasps the impotence of conservatism to defend, hell, anything, let alone the white race.

The practical effect of MacDonald's politics is to create young fogeys out of potential radicals. And please remember, I'm not speculating from the outside, I'm one of a handful who has actually worked inside professional conservatism in the capital. I know what these 20-something kiddies think and feel - I was one of them. They have great respect for their elders, and will follow the path and model presented them, the vast majority. Manufacturing new remonstrating respectables will do nothing to further the White cause. It will provide careers and audience for a new crop of writers, nothing more.

The way to go, as I've faithfully told you, is to draw an indelible white line between our racial movement and conservatism. Force anyone in the middle to pick a side. Relentlessly attack conservatives even more viciously than we attack our ultimate enemy, the illiberal-moated jews. Once we have destroyed the respectable right, we will have succeeded in polarizing the field between Whites and jews. Then we force the public to pick a side. We fight. And we win. And we reap the historical glory, the present peace, and the plaudits of posterity.

If MacDonald's side had a plan, I think we would have heard about it by now. It doesn't. It has mantras -- keep it safe 'n' legal, kids! -- and nothing more.

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Posted by Captainchaos on August 20, 2011, 10:34 AM | #

A real leader gets down with the working classes, organizes them into a coherent and active army and gives them the tools to win the ideological war.

The Political Cesspool radio show is the arm of the Regnery outfit which attempts to popularize racialism with the WWC with a folksy, populist presentation. Occasionally high- and middle-brow guests are interviewed who no doubt conceal their utter contempt for the sensibilities, indeed genetic constitution (yes, they are White, but ill-bred crackers - surely some eugenics is in order), of the WWC. It seems the WWC is caught between the rock of the literary fascists who would like to phase them out whilst breeding the “Higher Man” as Papa Luigi calls it and the hard place of Atlanticist atheists who wish to breed out their “faith gene”. I think the answer is for the WWC to tell both of these parties to shove their proposals of their asses.
 
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Posted by Barbara on August 20, 2011, 12:26 AM | #

I’m not allowed to post at Occidental Observer. When I did post I spoke often of how there was so much talk about IQ and I made the point that it was the elites who allowed the jews to gain power and control over everything. The rest of us are not to blame because we’re too stupid to be held responsible.

I also talked about death squads which was not appreciated either. At any rate I am completely shut out and can’t even read the comments. I went round and round with Greg Johnson also which certainly didn’t help matters. The people there are elitist jerks.

Why intentionally drive people away? The articles about the NW homeland were all about those who would not be welcome to live in the new homeland because we’re undesirables. Its almost unreal.
 
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Posted by Matt Parrott on August 20, 2011, 01:18 AM | #

Barbara,

At any rate I am completely shut out and can’t even read the comments.

Nobody’s shut out of the comments and I highly doubt you’re being censored—least of all for innocuous references to elite perfidy. You just click on the link at the bottom of the article and the comments remain. Comments were becoming so numerous that they were posing a performance issue for people visiting the site. The current setup is far from ideal, and I’m trying to find time to get that repaired.

If anybody feels they’re being unfairly censored at TOO, they shouldn’t hesitate to email me directly and I’ll investigate.

I’ve heard my share of complaints about the TOO comment moderation policy. But that it’s elitist is a new one.
 
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Posted by Guest Lurker on August 20, 2011, 06:48 AM | #

If there is a group of elite WNist intellectuals communicating with each other behind the scenes, it sounds like a wise use of their time.

Somewhat along these lines, I came across a German article on this website. I’m not going to translate it, but the gist of it is that according to a well-researched article in a Danish paper, for two decades now there has been a secret “Bund” that has infiltrated the Danish Right through an interlocking network of academics, policeman, conservative politicians, and business men and the associations they have founded. This network aims at “liberating” Europe from non-European immigrants and squaring accounts with traitors who have put Europe in its present predicament. There are allegedly offshoots of this network in all European states, but it is coordinated by a camouflage organization of the American CIA out of Virginia! The article then goes on to speculate whether Breivik’s claims of belonging to a vast network of operatives might have some truth to it after all. Anyway, the entire article is not reproduced on the link but is accessible only upon subscription.

http://info.kopp-verlag.de/hintergru...r-archiv-.html
 
Old August 21st, 2011 #8
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[the bolding is mine, not hers]

Posted by MOB on August 20, 2011, 09:06 PM | #

I haven’t read the Comments above yet. These that follow relate to the It’s Happening Again thread.

GW has responded to Yggdrasil’s August 10 contribution to the “It’s Happening Again” thread in which I had made certain comments about the secrecy and elitism of CMS. I started to do that, too, on that same day, but I gave it up. Like GW, I saw the disingenuousness of “confidential” as a replacement for “secrecy.” I said Ygg’s words are false and there are people reading the thread who know they’re false. I said that I had witnessed and experienced the snobbery, elitism and hierarchy firsthand, and that being friends with a CMS member is like being married to a bigamist--it lacks integrity, it lacks honesty.

But there is nothing false about Ygg’s statement that CMS empowers its members and works as a team. That can be seen almost daily on the websites, both in the articles and in the comments. CMS members watch each others’ backs. And no one else’s.

I stopped writing my response when I came to these words by Yggdrasil: “Do we do a good job--or even an adequate job - of recruiting all those who ought to be invited based o skills, talent and resources? Absolutely not. We simply do not have the time or resources required to get to know everyone in the movement.”

It was obvious to me that Yggdrasil, like Aesop before him, could only imagine that criticism of CMS meant envy and a longing to crash the secret chamber of higher-ups. Not hierarchical, Ygg? You don’t get it, that those of us who are criticizing the secrecy and elitism of CMS and its family of co-secret-elites are not doing it because we want to get in. We’re criticizing it because we think it’s a bad system.

Here are two incidents that demonstrate how CMS secrecy and elitism affects me:

Not long ago, I sent an email to a person whose writings on financial matters have interested me greatly. It so happened that there is a certain graphic representation that I’ve thought for some time would make an excellent teaching/learning device to have on a website, and in truth, I’d have liked it if two young relatives recently employed in financial sectors would take an interest in it. I sent that specialist an email asking if he had his own website, really to find out if he was to some degree independent. He responded that he didn’t, and that all of his writing would be being posted at XXX. For me, that ended it.

A few weeks later, wanting to make a serious attempt to put up a website of my own, I contacted someone who I knew could help me and who was inside the White Nationalism arena and would be sympathetic to my material. We exchanged a few emails, and then two things happened: first, I was hit with two unexpected expenses totaling $2500. That was a digression that would take me two months to negotiate without using credit or dipping into savings. The second problem was more serious: this person was also a regular contributor to a CMS-related enterprise, and thinking that over, at least as of now, I didn’t continue pursuing that, either

Because I know that CMS secret membership is primary to its members, I know that if I should happen to have a particularly original or favored idea, I would suspect that their preference would be to develop it inside their “confidential” group, rather than with me. Trust between an insider and an outsider can be difficult.

Yggdrasil said there is no supreme leader. Within the constellation of half a dozen groups with overlapping boards and advisors, I think of CMS as the umbrella group, because I consider Kevin MacDonald to be the supreme leader, i.e., the most important player. If I leaned toward a Jew/non-Jew White alliance, I might think Jared Taylor, Richard Spencer or even Alex Kurtagic was important, but I’m not so foolish as to lean in that direction. (Even CofCC has a place in that universe--Brent Nelson and at least two other of its “leaders” can also be found on boards of other groups. )

Yggdrasil wrote: But we are making steady progress.

I say, surveying 12 years of “steady progress” I see that, in addition to the elitist alliances being formed here and abroad, hundreds of essays have been written, books are being published, and people are commenting, commenting, and commenting. Whatever other progress has been made has been made under a bushel. As someone who formatted and saved thousands of articles and comments, I know that in a very few years, more than half the articles and 99% of the Comments will have become Trashworthy.

Many people may not realize that most of what’s being posted today consists of variations on old themes. I watched another video yesterday in which a young person, obviously thinking she was bravely presenting radical new material, was actually reciting material that most of us have heard a thousand times.


Don’t tell me I should have gone out and started a radical activist group myself. Introverts don’t do things like that.

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Posted by Matt Parrott on August 20, 2011, 09:21 PM | #

Barbara,

Matt Parrott please don’t make me out to be a liar. After reading this post and that of MOB I wanted to see who was currently posting at TOO and I was unable to access the comment section.

In the past you have posted comments in the forum attacking me and have done everything you could to let me know how you feel about me. So don’t play the hypocrite. I’m glad to know for certain that you are the one behind the scenes who has been doing hostile things to me. Its not been a fair fight since you were always in control.

I have never once gossiped a word about you to anybody—ever.

Do you know how much trouble it would be to code a solution that blocks your dynamic IP address from accessing one specific part of the site?

It’s definitely more trouble than I would be willing to take, considering that I don’t remember the dispute in question.

And I didn’t make you out to be a liar. You made yourself out to be paranoid and vindictive. I’m merely defending both myself and the site against the charge that we’re orchestrating some sort of campaign against you. I could count the number of comments I’ve deleted in the past two months on my fingers, and unless you’ve been trying to peddle natural male enhancement pills, it probably wasn’t you.

anymouse,

You’re not lying. You’re not dreaming it up. This behavior toward you is fully consistent with the experience of others. It is a product of Regnery’s “invi$ible hand$.” His people are hell bent on repackaging Fifties “Americanism” and repeating the tactical failures of the past. People like you are intentionally marginalized or driven out.

I haven’t been invited to join a damn thing. I haven’t received a nickel of support for every dollar I’ve spent of my own money for this cause. If anybody’s in this movement for the money, then he’s in for a disappointment.

Part of me is tickled to be considered among the elite insiders for the first time in my sorry white trash life...if only it were in a more uplifting and less patently delusional context.

Barbara’s dreaming it up, you’re stirring it up, and our enemies are laughing it up.
 
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I go back to MR and read this stuff for the third time.

The Ph.D. is an establishment status symbol. These folks wiil support the establishment, which needs to be destroyed.
 
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I go back to MR and read this stuff for the third time.

The Ph.D. is an establishment status symbol. These folks wiil support the establishment, which needs to be destroyed.
Well...it's not real easy to make heads or tails of that thread.

MOB, Marge O'Brien is certainly an intelligent woman, and shrewd. I had many exciting battles with her on KM's email list before I was kicked off. But. She's also a jesus crank, and extremely bitter and always perceiving things that aint quite there - typically concerning other people's motives. If I link to something I wrote on VNN, I'm a self promoter (well, that's where my stuff is? wtf?). If CMS doesn't invite her or one of its members doesn't respond like she thinks he should, then some kind of skulduggery is afoot. She's a little like Tony - she outthinks herself and becomes her own torturer.

CMS is not a secret society. It's just a bunch of old conservatives, apparently with funding from Regnery. To the extent there's a serious political mission beyond typical conservative back scratching and logrolling I think it's misdirected for the reasons stated above. Then again, I could just be an egotist who can't get along with anybody.

As for PhDs - maybe you're right. The thing I notice about them is, altho they fake it, they don't really respect anyone not a PhD. They write for other PhDs. Which is fine among academics, but for politics, it does no good.

What they are going to find is that their failure to observe one specific principle: excluding jews and jew-excusers from their ranks -- is going to trip them up, later or sooner.

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Who or what is "Regnery"?

And is it true that "Yggdrasil" is a Jew?
 
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Son of a German-American NON-JEW publisher who has done most of the major right-wing publishing in the post-WWII era, including serious conservative classics and also loads of neocon trash. But I'm not sure this particular regnery is with the firm any longer, he might have sold it.

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No. That's a lie spread by a fool who can't think, and repeated by morons who also can't think.
 
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Matt Parrot is the kind of guy who would urge you not to fight back during a race war, to give up your guns to the friendly military patrol going house to house to collect them and to obey all laws issued by an illegitimate government. It's kinda like Patrick Henry telling the Virgina house of delegates to "stay legal" and work with the King's government as the gallows pole goes up outside.

One day people like him are going to either get in line or stand aside. There will be no third choice as you're dragged away feet first.
 
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Being able to communicate our message to the "common man" is the prerequisite trait all leadership material must have. Adolf Hitler possessed this trait, Dr. William Pierce also.

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Guessedworker can draw comfort from the fact that mighty though his intellect is, it has not been bought at too great a price and he retains the capacity to engage with the common man. My thoughts are that the saviours of our race will be men of such ilk, able enough to command respect, yet with sufficient emotion to inspire, and the boldness of character to take the risks that political success will inevitably require.
 
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Being able to communicate our message to the "common man" is the prerequisite trait all leadership material must have. Adolf Hitler possessed this trait, Dr. William Pierce also.
That's right. You have to be able to pitch it to the lowest level you're trying to reach. The same message can be put in terms easily understandable to whichever audience is addressed. Not that hard.

The PhD bias is always towards pretending problems are more nuanced or difficult than they actually are. Their whole lives are splitting hairs. Not keeping things simple, or making things simple.

The particular danger the 'intellectuals' pose to our movement lies in the common claim that we must move people to our position in stages. It might happen like that, but no, that is not how we should operate. The only 'education' needed for newcomers is the jewish nexus: understanding the kiken taproot of the 101 symptoms of social decline we see. That education is no multiple-stage process, it's one simple explanation, and then the one being educated can go out and find all the examples he needs to satisfy himself that what we're saying is true. He can cherchez le juif (pardon the french), or he can simply go to our "The Problem" section where it's all laid out for him.

It helps the jew, the enemy, to pretend our cause is more complex than it actually is. Simplicity is our friend. Slogans help a mass-medialess cause make way against the mainstream. Slogans are salmon leaping against the mainstream to get to the spawning beds of the public mind. But intellectuals don't like slogans because they aren't nuanced. They're crude. They threaten to excite emotions.

And that's the other bad thing about the overly formally educated: they don't trust, they fear, the power of emotions to move people. No intellectual knowledge will overcome this fear. That's why your effective political leaders and change-makers are almost never PhDs, who must be content merely chipping in an idea here or there.
 
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The other thing that instinctively turns off intellectuals is the sheer amount of repetition needed to drive home points. The intellectual wants the new and the nuanced. But what makes way and hay in the world is the simple slogan x 1,000,000. That's why VNN spintros all ended with one of a handful of taglines custom crafted to encapsulate our cause memorably and drive it into the mind of the reader. Example:

No Way Out But Through The Jews.

Now our memes are everywhere, and most don't even know where they originated. That's how influence actually works.

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Posted by anymouse on August 21, 2011, 12:28 AM | #

Barbara’s dreaming it up, you’re stirring it up, and our enemies are laughing it up. – Lil Abner

When it comes to Money the enemy’s interests coincide with those of the Regnery Group. United or divided the enemy has nothing to fear from them. It laughs at the Group’s repackaged Fifties “Americanism,” its useful idiots, and its insistence on repeating the tactical failures of the past. More than anything the enemy and Regnery Group fear ideas with potential to break the dependency on Money. It is important that such thinking be ridiculed, marginalized, and driven out.
 
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Posted by Barbara on August 21, 2011, 12:19 PM | #

The White man finally declares war against the only enemy we ever really had. International jewry.

Operation You Asked For It: The First Circle

Within the same week, the Rothschilds, members of Wall Street firms, Warburgs, AIPAC members, newspaper editors and reporters, cable news channel CEOs and reporters, traitors at the Pentagon and State Dept, Israeli leaders, Davos group and others are assassinated.

Operation You Asked For It: The Second Circle

etc etc etc etc ect

Posted by Barbara on August 21, 2011, 02:30 PM | #

What is needed is a website describing how to switch from the Federal Reserve to a different economy.

I’m told that if we got rid of the Fed our economy would collapse. So what sort of process would we have to go through in order to get rid of it and rebuild our new economic system?

Just as Kevin by writing his books laid the foundation for the right of Western civilization to exist. Someone needs to lay a solid foundation showing the need to be rid of the Fed and have a new system.

We could begin to eat away like a cancer on the very foundations of jew wealth, control and power, central banks.

So if there is anyone out there capable of doing this, that is the website that is desperately needed.
 
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Posted by MOB on August 21, 2011, 03:49 PM | #

Matt: You misunderstood what I wrote. The $2500 unexpected expenses referred to a dental crown ($1350) and a new laptop (Toshiba $1100), which hit me out of the blue and meant that my pursuing website help would have to be delayed for about two months.

Lew: “Literary Movement” is actually a useful term to describe what has come to dominate “White Nationalism” in America. And if this were only a valued WING of White Nationalism in America, that would be fine.

But it isn’t a wing. It’s all there is, except for a Revisionist wing, which has a firm identity with the clear mission of rebutting lies. I believe the way the Literary Movement came to eclipse other possible forms of activism was simply through the gravitational pull of Kevin MacDonald moving him and his literary entourage into the vacuum created by the loss of William Pierce. Kevin MacDonald makes no secret of his respect for the success of the New York Intellectuals or of his belief that the way to save the White race is by following in their footsteps.

For me, the problem is that creating a White “Elite” to replace the Jew “Elite” which replaced the Wasp “Elite” which replaced the ?? “Elite” is not a goal that I wish to participate in, and yet circumstances DO call for activism in support of Whites--vigorous, collective activism.

Back a FINAL time to the elitism that *I* perceive:

Last summer, ignorant of the details of its birth, I learned a new party committed to White interests had been founded--A3P--and that it was supporting its first State candidate, an activist in New Hampshire. I immediately joined the party and pledged $100 to the candidate. Around then A3P broadcast its first conference. I listened as one director referred to the candidate from Vermont and the next director “corrected” that to the candidate from Massachusetts--I thought, poor New Hampshire, poor candidate. I realized both directors were new to politics, but it turned out their attention was on something else: the thrilling news that Bob Richards, first Athlete to have his picture on a Wheaties box, had become an A3P member!!!—how could an unknown candidate from a hard to remember state like NH compete with that??

I clicked on the Twitter and Facebook icons at the top of the A3P page. My entire screen turned red--filled with DOZENS of CMS logos!!

That’s how I learned that A3P was just another CMS enterprise. Traven Tucker began playing his guitar then and singing a song I’d never heard before, but enjoyed - I like country - a minute later the mellow sound of Traven’s voice lowered, and with threatening intensity, he sang

“Don’t you ever underestimate me . . . I’m the Average, Ordinary Man...”

A laugh BURST from my mouth—spontaneous, entirely innocent. I realized instantly what had happened; I’d been completely taken by surprise by the utterly incongruent juxtaposition of the CMS logos and the words “average, ordinary man.” The elites and the little people; good clean fun.

The CMS logos are no longer on the twitter or facebook pages; I looked yesterday. Now the CMS ownership only shows up on the Leadership page.

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