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Old May 25th, 2012 #61
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I have posted the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals decision on this case but have not had time to study it. This cost me $5.
Hmm...looks like they wanted to "enhance" his sentence. In other words, re-sentence him according to a new standard. He was probably looking at a few more years. Does that look like it to you?
 
Old May 25th, 2012 #62
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Yeah, and where exactly are you pulling that out of your ass?
You know what's odd, Scabies? I looked through that entire document that Pauly put up and I swear, I could not find any evidence where White was identified as an informant. You'd think that would have been considered, don't you? Of course, the other two NSM who claim they saw him after the arrest might know more than we do.

Is there a rule here about calling someone an informant without proof? I hope so.
 
Old May 26th, 2012 #63
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Best of luck to you Bill wherever you are. Say what you will about Bill, but he did get out on the street and fight for our Race, National Socialism and a future for White children. If you know anything about his background, you know that Bill basically had it made. Instead he decided to put material goods aside for a life of an uncertain fate, that usually doesn't turn out very well.

Do you remember what happened to Gordon Kahl, George Lincoln Rockwell, Bob Mathews, Kathy Ainsworth and countless others that dared to stand up to ZOG and their corrupt system?
 
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It would be nice if White could fill us in on what was going on. I do have my suspicions about him. (He did get away with implied threats for several years before he was arrested. Would you or I be afforded such leeway? Don't bet your freedom on it!)

Is White forbidden from all communication or just internet posting? I suppose he can still read online, even if he is not allowed to post.
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Old May 26th, 2012 #65
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It would be nice if White could fill us in on what was going on. I do have my suspicions about him. (He did get away with implied threats for several years before he was arrested. Would you or I be afforded such leeway? Don't bet your freedom on it!)

Is White forbidden from all communication or just internet posting? I suppose he can still read online, even if he is not allowed to post.
The government telling its citizens what they can and can't read does seem a bit Orwellian.
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Old May 26th, 2012 #66
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You know what's odd, Scabies? I looked through that entire document that Pauly put up and I swear, I could not find any evidence where White was identified as an informant. You'd think that would have been considered, don't you? Of course, the other two NSM who claim they saw him after the arrest might know more than we do.

Is there a rule here about calling someone an informant without proof? I hope so.
There has been NO evidence that Pravda Bill has ever been an informer. I have gotten thru the 50 page decision of the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals and will be posting extracts shortly. A detailed study is in order to know what you can get away with and what you can't get away with when it comes to free speech. It seems that common sense is both necessary and sufficient.

This old post on VNN Forum by Pravda Bill was quoted in the decision. This account has been banned after large number of posts were made.

Canadian Jew Warman had been quite a troublemaker in 2008 for advocating prosecution of Nationalists there for hate speech. Bill skated on this post because he said "someone" and the threat was not specific. He was still skating on thin ice. It would have been far safer to have said:"What a shame if this happened to Warman next!" Veiled threats are both more effective and safer.

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(Title) White Activists Burn Home Of Canadian Communist

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Communist says neo-Nazis torched his Calgary house
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Published: Saturday, February 23, 2008

CALGARY -- Jason Devine and fiancée Bonnie Collins believe neo-Nazis were behind a firebomb attack on their house.

Devine -- who was home with his four sleeping children on the night of Feb. 12, when the incident occurred -- said he heard a crash, saw fire and called 911.

"It was terrifying to say the least," said the 27-year-old.

The firebomb missed a rear window and torched a fence and patio set.

Both Collins and Devine are Communists and members of Anti-Racist Action Calgary.

Collins is running as a Communist candidate in the provincial election in Calgary-East, and Devine has run as a member of the Communist party in the past.

Previous interactions with white supremacist groups in Calgary, specifically the Aryan Guard, led the couple to believe this was not a random act of violence. "The coincidences are just too much," said Collins.

© Times Colonist (Victoria) 2008
 
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Do you remember what happened to Gordon Kahl, George Lincoln Rockwell, Bob Mathews, Kathy Ainsworth and countless others that dared to stand up to ZOG and their corrupt system?
Bob Mathews basically committed suicide. I fail to see how that benefited White people.
 
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Bob Mathews basically committed suicide. I fail to see how that benefited White people.
Bank robbers like him set us back. That bunch made a martyr out of the obnoxious Jew Alan Berg and made matters far worse than they were. It doesn't help for us to have four convicted pipe bombers in Federal prison right now who were associated with White Nationalism.
 
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Bank robbers like him set us back. That bunch made a martyr out of the obnoxious Jew Alan Berg and made matters far worse than they were. It doesn't help for us to have four convicted pipe bombers in Federal prison right now who were associated with White Nationalism.
Very short-sighted people. Instead they should raise a family, and get the word out in peaceful manner. Breaking the law is ALWAYS going to cause nothing but disaster.
 
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It doesn't help for us to have four convicted pipe bombers in Federal prison right now who were associated with White Nationalism.
Well, when White men are given no political steamvalve outlet, are told our opinions and interests as a race don't matter and are irrelevant while every other fucking race gets their organizations and prime TV time, our cities and businesses and schools and neighborhoods ransacked and destroyed and our women raped, murdered. Yeah, I can see their frustration enough to bomb the fuck out of who they deem responsible. I don't condemn them, and if I did it would only be for getting caught or not taking out thousands of fucking kikes and race-traitor Whites with them.
 
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Bob Mathews basically committed suicide. I fail to see how that benefited White people.
He committed a final stand; duked it out shot-for-shot with ZOG, who only achieved victory when they managed to ignite his ammo stockpile, either through stray bullet or flashbang, that blew up his house. Mathews continued to fire at agents as the house burned, but then suddenly stopped. After the wreckage had cooled enough to be searched, agents found the burned remains of 31 year old Mathews' body next to a charred bathtub, pistol still in hand. THAT is worthy of honor.
 
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.. Breaking the law is ALWAYS going to cause nothing but disaster.
That's way too submissive of an attitude for a white man that wants to make a difference.

Most 'law' is just some politician's opinion ultimately enforced at gunpoint.

Your claim that "Breaking the law is ALWAYS going to cause nothing but disaster." may be true for some people some of the time. If you think hard enough, you can probably identify several 'laws' you've broken recently that have not caused disaster.

Would you refuse to participate in any form of civil disobedience?
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That's way too submissive of an attitude for a white man that wants to make a difference.

Most 'law' is just some politician's opinion ultimately enforced at gunpoint.

Your claim that "Breaking the law is ALWAYS going to cause nothing but disaster." may be true for some people some of the time. If you think hard enough, you can probably identify several 'laws' you've broken recently that have not caused disaster.

Would you refuse to participate in any form of civil disobedience?
The point is that the benefits must outweigh the cost. With the Order all either dead or in prison, they did not do much for our struggle except set us back. It might have been different if they had taken out the NAACP Jewish leadership or the ADL convention. Even then, the bad press would not have been worth it.
 
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Well, when White men are given no political steamvalve outlet, are told our opinions and interests as a race don't matter and are irrelevant while every other fucking race gets their organizations and prime TV time, our cities and businesses and schools and neighborhoods ransacked and destroyed and our women raped, murdered. Yeah, I can see their frustration enough to bomb the fuck out of who they deem responsible. I don't condemn them, and if I did it would only be for getting caught or not taking out thousands of fucking kikes and race-traitor Whites with them.
All of this. Well said sir.
 
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Nothing like keyboard Commandos trashing someone like Bob Mathews. Do you even know anything about the man, besides the lies that ZOG has told you? Bob Matthews was not afraid to go toe to toe with the likes of the Progressive Labor Party.

Bob Matthews fatal mistake was dropping a pistol that was registered to him in the Brinks armored car. Just goes to show that we are all human and make mistakes.

Say what you will about Matthews and The Order, but David Lane nailed it when asked about the Alan Berg murder. He stated that since that date that Berg wasn't spouting his hate Whitey propaganda.

Have you ever listened to Bob Matthew's Call To Arms speech?
 
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Nothing like keyboard Commandos trashing someone like Bob Mathews. Do you even know anything about the man, besides the lies that ZOG has told you? Bob Matthews was not afraid to go toe to toe with the likes of the Progressive Labor Party.

Bob Matthews fatal mistake was dropping a pistol that was registered to him in the Brinks armored car. Just goes to show that we are all human and make mistakes.

Say what you will about Matthews and The Order, but David Lane nailed it when asked about the Alan Berg murder. He stated that since that date that Berg wasn't spouting his hate Whitey propaganda.

Have you ever listened to Bob Matthew's Call To Arms speech?
I don't need this low class propaganda. It is beyond argument that Mathews robbed several armored cars. That money was reimbursed by White insurance companies. The difference between Mathews and Stalin was that the later was a successfull bank robber. Where is Mathews when his country really needs him? I would happily have pulled the trap door on his gallows. I believe in The Five Words not the supposed 14 words.
 
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Very short-sighted people. Instead they should raise a family, and get the word out in peaceful manner. Breaking the law is ALWAYS going to cause nothing but disaster.
That's very true. That's why the Government and the American people are going to suffer disaster for their flagrant disregard of the law. In a so-called democracy, the people are just as compliant in the government's crimes as the government itself.
 
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That's very true. That's why the Government and the American people are going to suffer disaster for their flagrant disregard of the law. In a so-called democracy, the people are just as compliant in the government's crimes as the government itself.
I am neither compliant nor complicit in the crimes of the U.S. Government
 
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Nothing like keyboard Commandos trashing someone like Bob Mathews. Do you even know anything about the man, besides the lies that ZOG has told you? Bob Matthews was not afraid to go toe to toe with the likes of the Progressive Labor Party.

Bob Matthews fatal mistake was dropping a pistol that was registered to him in the Brinks armored car. Just goes to show that we are all human and make mistakes.

Say what you will about Matthews and The Order, but David Lane nailed it when asked about the Alan Berg murder. He stated that since that date that Berg wasn't spouting his hate Whitey propaganda.

Have you ever listened to Bob Matthew's Call To Arms speech?
Alan Berg was so obnoxious that he was worth more to us alive. Killing Alan Berg was not a well considered action. How many men have rotted in prison for that?

Dr. Pierce had high praise for Robert Mathews as a man but had great regrets about what he did. "A man of Robert Mathews' quality is too precious to squander in premature action."
http://noncounterproductive.blogspot...of-robert.html

Elsewhere Dr. Pierce explained that we need to use legal methods as long as they are available to us. If legal methods are no longer allowed, then there is a justification for going illegal.

Encouraging others to go illegal while legal means are still open and still not being exploited to any great degree is counterproductive. A movement that can't even build an effective propaganda-machine is probably not going to fare better with terrorism.

Furthermore, anybody that is sucked into adopting some quasi-terrorist pose (which is certainly more common than people genuinely willing to go out in a blaze of glory) runs a serious risk of getting railroaded in this post-9/11 climate.

My advice is not to take guidance from crazy people (and there are plenty of them around). If you feel that you are willing to sacrifice your life for the cause, perhaps you would be willing instead to earn money to support some effort to enlighten the White public? All those years that you didn't go out in the blaze of glory add up to a lot of money for the cause.

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