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Richard, everyone I know from Viet Nam went in under 19 a couple went in at 16 and 17 and they said the same thing as you are now. I think they are stronger for it today but then it was a different story.
There may be a few people out there that can remain calm in an extreme situation but I have been hunting with people who freeze up on a deer, other world-class shooters with military experience like Jerry Michlack (sp) will freeze in a competition. I cannot begin to imagine what it’s like for a teenager to be dropped off in a strange place with less than 2 months training and all of the sudden thousands of rounds and explosions are raining down on him. With ZOG closing down all the student loans and all the scholarships going to darkies soon the military will be the only way for a white person to get a kwallege edjewcation. People rag on soldiers but they are just doing a job and some as was the case in Vietnam against their will. To be honest if I were 18 right now even being a WN I would probably be in the military because they are offering a $20,000 bonus plus competitive wages for first time startups and bonuses of $60,000 for returning soldiers with special skills. Teenagers get all jacked up on online games like Halo and such and go to war thinking there will be a reset button. Right now for a high school graduate in a low wage area the military offers the most attractive package even if it is a bad one. What other job is going to hire a person with no skills train you, give you money for college, give you a $20,000 bonus for starting up and pay you wages while you are there. Go to McDonalds and ask for that deal then see what happens.
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If you need to lay down fire to deal with waves of attackers, you give squads MGs and provide close air support. Oh, but wait, they've phased those out too for another 5.56 piece of junk. And in 20 years, the Warthog, probably the best aircraft you ever made, will be gone, not to be replaced by a more advanced aircraft of similar function, but by the wholly inadequate F-35. It looks sexy though! Like the little M4 carbine they seem intent on giving to every soldier. But this is just another "conspiracy theory". Quote:
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I've completed my mandatory military service, where we trained on the Steyr AUG. I'll tell you, I'd rather depend on an FN FAL in a fight than that thing any day. But I'm not a former Navy SEAL, Army Ranger, Green Beret Vietname vet gunslinger who hunts gophers in the woords at night like you. Quote:
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Conspiracy? There you have it; just throw out the words "conspiracy theory" and you have won the argument. What about the Stryker? Is that piece of junk just a "conspiracy theory" too? Or your lumbering deathtraps called "supercarriers"? Quote:
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Do you have experience at the executive level of the armaments industry? Do you have experience at the defense level of the U.S. government? Do you have experience at the strategic level of the U.S. military? Do you have the knowledge of economics, politics, military science or psychology necessary to analyse the motivations of these people with any more authority than I? Quote:
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And what entitles you single out a firearm as the cause of ineffectiveness in combat, rather than the fact that you are comparing whites to niggers, since niggers, sandniggers, and other primitives are the only ones fighting any wars apart from the U.S.? That and the British in the Falklands performed much better fighting real soldiers than you ever did slugging it out with a bunch of subhumans. Quote:
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But as I pointed out earlier it takes more rounds to fight more people. Fighting Germans who didn’t want to die was one thing, however gooks will run right into gun fire by the thousands and there is a need for more rounds. Quote:
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So after I stomped you in religious threads, humiliated you in Arab threads you are going to come to this section and derail every thread with an America vs Britain debate instead of answering the question. Will anything smaller than a 45 acp penetrate a Negro’s skull?
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IMO a 38 to any part of the main torso or neck would stop anyone from hand gun range.
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"Dealing with the problems means dealing with the jews, anything else is like mopping the floor with the tap still running."...Alex Linder
Yes, headshots work effectively on jews.
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At one time there was a law against shooting coons in the head while hunting them, it might bounce off and his a human!
Seriously, the human (and nigger) skull is very hard and some bullets WILL skid, bounce, glance off or not get to go through. The head is a small target and moving all the time, so a high chest shot is generally best. Center of mass hits always work well. |
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What is something with this kind of title doing in this day and age?
What kind of racist garbage is this?! People who deserve to be shot come in all colors, ethnicities, etc. I know, work with, and have friends from nearly every place on Earth, and there are good and bad from every place on Earth as well, so this topic is ridiculous in this day and age. Nearly ANY caliber will take down a scumbag criminal, including a .22lr in well trained hands, as has been demonstrated by the Mossad on various El Al flights and assassination missions ordered by the Prime Minister of Israel on enemies of that Nation.
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If you do like daddy told you and keep your hands up, throw a straight right hand down the middle and get him right in the chops, his brain will turn off. Then you can disbatch the animal any way you like. Also the edge of your hand (karate chop) to the neck thrown with a backhand kind of motion is effective. Or shoot him in the face with 00 buck shot.
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This post isn't in response to the original post or poster and certainly not in response to the title of the thread. I've been the victim of black violence on several occasions but know of few young White thugs that are just as violent.
That said, here's the solution for close combat situations. The Taurus Judge. It comes in a variety of flavors. Mine is in stainless with 3" barrel and fires the 2.5" .410 shotgun shell as well as the .45 Long Colt cartridge. I keep the Winchester PDX1 self-defense .410 shotgun shells in it. The PDX1 shells contain three (3) plated .36 caliber discs followed by 12 plated pieces of shot IN EACH SHELL. It's devastating at close range and one can hardly miss a target with this firearm and shell combination. The Judge is an excellent firearm for the home or the car. The .410 self-defense shotgun shells available for it are good to about 21 feet. If you need accuracy beyond 21 feet then a cartridge based firearm would be a better solution. But the Judge can't be beat for close combat. Demonstration fire of PDX1 .410 cartridge fired from Judge 3" barrel. Watermelon disappears. (See also at 1:10 minutes to get an idea of the pattern of the discs and shot when fire onto a paper target.) Would also be an excellent choice for a woman in the home or in the car although it's larger than a .40 S&W auto loader or a .38 special. Last edited by OTPTT; June 19th, 2012 at 06:25 PM. |
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For the deterrent effect, i.e. a blinding wound, of blasting someone with #12 birdshot the .410 + short-barrel concept works well. Very well. In fact, the designers' original intent was that: One snapshot at a car-jacker's face and get the hell outta dodge.
As for the 'serious' defensive load, unfortunately, the buckshot makes an ineffective killer. The ballistics suck. http://www.410handguns.com/410_gel_results.html The pellets must penetrate an attacker's body deeply enough to be able to pass through a vital cardiovascular structure to cause rapid fatal hemorrhage to quickly deprive the brain of oxygenated blood needed to maintain consciousness. And that, ever since the FBI's first wound-ballistics meeting in 1987, is mandated as a minimum of 12 inches of penetration in test-gelatin. The .410 + short-barrel combination fails the test, and can't be relied upon for effective self-defense outside a very specific set of circumstances. |
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You're an idiot who apparently has no knowledge of firearms or the proper self-defense firearm loads.
No one is going to put #12 birdshot in a .45LC\.410 revolver for self-defense. Hunting small game, yes; self-defense, no. Don't confuse bird shot with buck shot. Did you read the information on the Federal Premium .410 Handgun 4-Pellet 000 Buck 2½-inch shells? I bought a box of these very shells yesterday for my 3" Taurus Judge. Here's the results this shell being fired into a 10x10x12-inch block of ballistic gel at a distance of 10 yards (30 feet) with a velocity of 1012 fps from a Taurus Judge with 3" barrel. Quote:
One thing I did see from those tests found here is that the Winchester PDX1 wasn't as effective as the Federal 4-Pellet 000 Buck 2½-inch shells with the former only achieving about a 7.5 inch penetration. I'll be putting the Federal shells in the Judge now instead of the PDX1. Of course the PDX1 has a velocity of only 750fps just a bit slower than a .45acp whereas the Federal shells show a velocity of 1200fps according to their respective boxes. With everything considered this is how I have my Judge loaded: Chambers 1-5: 1. Winchester PDX1 2. Federal 4-Pellet 000 Buck 3. Winchester PDX1 4. Federal 4-Pellet 000 Buck 5. Federal 4-Pellet 000 Buck The Judge is great for the nightstand at home or for any close combat situation when loaded above, or with all Federal 4-Pellet 000 buck shot. Within a 21 foot radius it's deadly. It's not a revolver I'd carry though since I wouldn't want to hit an innocent bystander if I had to take down a violent, murdering bad guy. It also has only five chambers. For carry I prefer a .45acp auto loader with at least 41 rounds of ammunition. That translates to one in the chamber and a full magazine in the pistol with two spare magazines fully loaded. Quote:
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