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Old September 7th, 2015 #81
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Saying paganism (I assume you are only talking about the Germanic version of paganism) didn't lead to race mixing isn't very helpful, since most pagan areas were racially isolated.
Yeah, and they became multicultural after Christianity swept in. With christianity came infectious nation destroying diseases like jews. Rather than solve the problem they played ping pong bouncing them around from one country to the next. Whites who weren't christian were treated worse than jews were.

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What paganism lead to was getting their ass beat by Christianity and forcibly converted. That isn't a winning formula, and we need winning formulas. Of course those 2 religions back then are not the same as the successors to those religions that exist today, and it is impossible to recreate them.
Just because they lost a war doesn't mean there was something inherently wrong with the way they lived. I don't believe in the Pagan gods either, but I have infinitely more respect for the ways of our ancestors, than for a semitic expansionist religion that imposed itself on Europe. I can come to an understanding with Pagans, because I don't hear them proselytize their religion to people who don't care. And I don't hear them claiming their imaginary friends are more important than their race and family.
 
Old September 7th, 2015 #82
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So how are all those pure white Aryans in India doing today?
I doubt they welcomed their demise like Christians since racialism was part of their fundamental beliefs. I never claimed paganism was a surefire way to avoid racial disaster, only that it's common sense that racialist White religion is better than Semitic religion teaching the brotherhood of all Christians regardless of race.

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Saying paganism (I assume you are only talking about the Germanic version of paganism) didn't lead to race mixing isn't very helpful, since most pagan areas were racially isolated.
Where did you get that idea? I mean all descendants, whether Germanic, Celtic, Hellenic, Indo-Aryan, etc., of the Proto-Indo-European religion. Anyway, the Norse poem Rígsþula describes the lowest caste of Scandinavia, the Thralls, as dark and short, undoubtably a reference to the Lapps (http://theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/lundborglapp2.jpg) while the highest caste, the Jarls, is described as tall, strong, fair-haired, and light-eyed. The consequences of the destruction of this caste system brought on by Christianity can be seen in a small percentage of Scandinavians today:

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What paganism lead to was getting their ass beat by Christianity and forcibly converted.
And what were the inevitable consequences of Christianization? See above. If you want a "winning formula", try cleansing our nations of all Semitic garbage once and for all.

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If some people's version of Christianity makes them believe that whites should have their own nation, then great I'll support that version of Christianity.
Or how about we get rid of non-White religion altogether? I don't want to live in the same country as the Christian Nationalists I've encountered who believe non-Christian Whites should be killed.

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If some version of Paganism reinforces your beliefs that whites should have their own nation, then great I'll support your version of Paganism.
There is no such thing as non-racialist paganism anymore than there is such thing as pro-White Marxism. Faggots who just think it's cool to wear a Mjölnir amulet and drink mead while ignoring everything else are not pagans.
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Old September 7th, 2015 #83
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I don't want to live in the same country as the Christian Nationalists I've encountered who believe non-Christian Whites should be killed.



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Any christian nationalist that would kill a non Christian White person is scum. I would not want to live in the same country as them either
 
Old September 11th, 2015 #84
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True. I want to destroy the Vatican because it is no longer the Church. The people are the church. Just so you all know, I am not interested in converting any off you and apoligise if you ever get that thought from any of my posts. I just will not stand by and allow the jews and their sidekicks to destroy something that has been part of our cultures for so long.
As for the muslims Bev mentioned converting to Christianity, so what, they are still non white vermin and should not be in Europe to begin with
The White Australia Policy that kept Austraslia White for all those years was written by Christians. The jews were kicked out of European countries by Christians. When have non Christians ever done anything to protect our race from jews and other non Whites
I do not regard Evangelicals etc as Christians, they are just snake oil salesmen. Unfortunately America has a shitload of them
The churches have been subverted by the Marxists. Until they make a stand against it, they are useless. Funny how they'll 'stand up' against gay marriage, but won't make a sound against White genocide in S. Africa, or here in the states, as niggers kill and breed with Whites. Until they make a stand in the proper direction, they are useless canon fodder. The past is just that, the past. This is NOT the church of the past. NONE of them are, except maybe Pastor Robb in Arkansas. However, when I pointed this out, I was met with a barrage of attacks and excuses of why he is no good. Incredible, isn't it? That even 'good christian' folks on this forum would defend a weak, spineless church over one that at least has the guts to speak in favor of whites.
 
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The churches have been subverted by the Marxists. Until they make a stand against it, they are useless. Funny how they'll 'stand up' against gay marriage, but won't make a sound against White genocide in S. Africa, or here in the states, as niggers kill and breed with Whites. Until they make a stand in the proper direction, they are useless canon fodder. The past is just that, the past. This is NOT the church of the past. NONE of them are, except maybe Pastor Robb in Arkansas. However, when I pointed this out, I was met with a barrage of attacks and excuses of why he is no good. Incredible, isn't it? That even 'good christian' folks on this forum would defend a weak, spineless church over one that at least has the guts to speak in favor of whites.
pastor Robb, do you mean Thom Robb of the bullshit knights party? That lying sack of shit is a CI and CI believe themselves to be the original israelites. How can a White person claim to be an original israelite and also be pro White when CI is just the American version of British israelism which was a lie used by the jew to establish themselves into the upper classes of Europe
 
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The churches have been subverted by the Marxists. Until they make a stand against it, they are useless. Funny how they'll 'stand up' against gay marriage, but won't make a sound against White genocide in S. Africa, or here in the states, as niggers kill and breed with Whites. Until they make a stand in the proper direction, they are useless canon fodder. The past is just that, the past. This is NOT the church of the past. NONE of them are, except maybe Pastor Robb in Arkansas. However, when I pointed this out, I was met with a barrage of attacks and excuses of why he is no good. Incredible, isn't it? That even 'good christian' folks on this forum would defend a weak, spineless church over one that at least has the guts to speak in favor of whites.
It's not the church it's christian doctrine.
 
Old September 12th, 2015 #87
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The churches have been subverted by the Marxists. Until they make a stand against it, they are useless. Funny how they'll 'stand up' against gay marriage, but won't make a sound against White genocide in S. Africa, or here in the states, as niggers kill and breed with Whites. Until they make a stand in the proper direction, they are useless canon fodder. The past is just that, the past. This is NOT the church of the past. NONE of them are, except maybe Pastor Robb in Arkansas. However, when I pointed this out, I was met with a barrage of attacks and excuses of why he is no good. Incredible, isn't it? That even 'good christian' folks on this forum would defend a weak, spineless church over one that at least has the guts to speak in favor of whites.
CI are the nuttiest of the christ tard bunch. IMO they're even nuttier than Mormons or L Ron Hubbards cult of Scientology. They think White culture is so inept that they'd prefer to steal it from semites by claiming White people are the real kikes. That's about as cooky as it gets. They're on par with some of these UFO cultists on the nuttiness scale. Which means they get bonus points beyond 10 on the nuttiness scale.

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pastor Robb, do you mean Thom Robb of the bullshit knights party? That lying sack of shit is a CI and CI believe themselves to be the original israelites. How can a White person claim to be an original israelite and also be pro White when CI is just the American version of British israelism which was a lie used by the jew to establish themselves into the upper classes of Europe
There might be hope for you yet if you view CI nutters for exactly what they are.

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Old September 12th, 2015 #88
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This speaks to the topic directly.

From Rick Perry, the former governor of Texas who just dropped out of the Republican Presidential primaries:

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"Demeaning people of Hispanic heritage is not just ignorant, it betrays the example of Christ," Perry said. "It is time to elevate our debate from divisive name-calling, from sound bites without solutions, and start discussing how we will make the country better for all if a conservative is elected president."
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...tial_race.html

Identifying beaners as criminals isn't compatible with Perry's Christianity. No doubt kicking their sorry brown asses back across the border isn't either. Christianity is incompatible with White interests in the illegal invasion debacle.
 
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Excuse me if this has been posted before, but it speaks to the topic directly.

From Rick Perry, the former governor of Texas who just dropped out of the Republican Presidential primaries:
You see, he's not a "real" christian. The real christians are the ones defined by the 0.0000000000000001% of its followers who try to say it's compatible with white racialism. The remaining 99.9999999999999999% simply don't count and aren't the real deal.
 
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You see, he's not a "real" christian. The real christians are the ones defined by the 0.0000000000000001% of its followers who try to say it's compatible with white racialism. The 99.9999999999999999% simply don't count and aren't the real deal.
Is there a single main stream Christian church or organization which supports enforcing immigration laws (i.e. deportation)?

I'm not aware of one.

Institutionalized Christianity has outlived its useful purpose to the White race. It's time to move on.
 
Old September 13th, 2015 #91
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Is there a single main stream Christian church or organization which supports enforcing immigration laws (i.e. deportation)?

I'm not aware of one.

Institutionalized Christianity has outlived its useful purpose to the White race. It's time to move on.
I'm no authority on organized religion, but most of these anti-immigration groups belong to some Christian religion.

Quote;According to the Pew Research Center, 63% of white evangelicals view immigrants as a "threat to U.S. customs and values," compared to 48% of the population as a whole. (Only 39% of secular respondents held negative views of immigrants.)
 
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Either way it is not good news for the Jews.

Quote:Once again, the survey found a major gap between foreign-born Hispanic attitudes toward Jews and for those born in the U.S.



35% of foreign-born Hispanics hold anti-Semitic views, compared to 18% for those born in the U.S. This finding holds out the hope that children of Hispanic immigrants, exposed to America's diverse society and education, will continue to move away from classical anti- Semitic attitudes (view graph).
 
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I'm no authority on organized religion, but most of these anti-immigration groups belong to some Christian religion.
Meanwhile there's another pew poll that says christians are 70% of amerikwa, and you don't know how to interpret statistics.

That statistic is moot anyway. While the majority of people who are anti-immigration might say they are christian that doesn't mean they aren't just christian in name only. The pew poll says 70% of amerikwans are christian, but i doubt it's really that high. A large amount of that 70% still call themselves christians even if they aren't practicing. So both of these pew polls don't tell us much, or a conclusive view of what their views are on immigration are. What matters more is what christian doctrine actually says.

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.... What matters more is what christian doctrine says.
Actually NO, what matters more is if people are following Christian doctrine as regards to immigration.

Apparently NOT....

It is your turn to prove Atheists are more anti-immigration, which I see you are diverting away from with snide smirky personal insults.

This isn't about me, I'm just a anonymous poster looking for the truth..

And every radical feminist website I go to are overwhelmingly Atheist which frankly leaves a sour bile in my stomach.
 
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I already gave you a neg rep dealing with that strawman argument.

Atheism isn't a religion. You're trying to compare the two as if they're both religions.

All Atheism is, is rejecting one unproven position: the existence of a god. Atheism doesn't have a position on immigration. Atheism doesnt even need a name, it's just the default position on one unsubstantiated claim. There is no atheist doctrine on loving thy neighbor, all being one in the mystical body of christ, or being your brothers keeper. It's just a rejection of one thing. What a self-described atheist has to say about anything else is irrelevant. You can be an atheist leftist, an atheist racist, an atheist whatever. It only means you agree on one thing.

You can't be a christian racialist because you would be going against the actual doctrines of your anti-white universalist religion. Which it also speaks out against with its "you can't serve two masters" position. You're either pro-white or a universalistic christian, according to its own doctrine.

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I already gave you a neg rep dealing with that strawman argument.

Atheism isn't a religion. You're trying to compare the two as if they're both religions.

All Atheism is, is rejecting one unproven position: the existence of a god. Atheism doesn't have a position on immigration. Atheism doesnt even need a name, it's just the default position on one unsubstantiated claim. There is no atheist doctrine on loving thy neighbor, all being one in the mystical body of christ, or being your brothers keeper. It's just a rejection of one thing. What a self-described atheist has to say about anything else is irrelevant. You can be an atheist leftist, an atheist racist, an atheist whatever. It only means you agree on one thing.

You can't be a christian racialist because you would be going against the actual doctrines of your anti-white universalist religion. Which it also speaks out against with its "you can't serve two masters" position. You're either pro-white or a universalistic chrisitian, according to its own doctrine.
Wait a minute, Craig Cobb is in that "creativity" Christian religion, are you trying to tell me he isn't pro-white?

I looked at their website, they sound pro-white to me.
 
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Wait a minute, Craig Cobb is in that "creativity" Christian religion, are you trying to tell me he isn't pro-white?

I looked at their website, they sound pro-white to me.
Did you get to the part where they do not believe in God, or Jesus?
 
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Actually NO, what matters more is if people are following Christian doctrine as regards to immigration.
So in your opinion it doesn't actually matter if people follow christian doctrine, but it matters that they still call themselves christians? Why not just reject the whole rotten thing then if you just want to pick and choose. Oh right, you have emotional reasons.
 
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So in your opinion it doesn't actually matter if people follow christian doctrine, but it matters that they still call themselves christians? Why not just reject the whole rotten thing then if you just want to pick and choose. Oh right, you have emotional reasons.
Because I can't reject the whole rotten thing, like you said I have emotional reasons, I have very conflicted emotions when it comes to Jesus.
I have a cross with his image on my wall I have never been able to get rid of.
 
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Because I can't reject the whole rotten thing, like you said I have emotional reasons, I have very conflicted emotions when it comes to Jesus.
I have a cross with his image on my wall I have never been able to get rid of.
This calls for a metal injection!


No Christ, no cross
No pain, no loss
No wanton guilt for us to bear
No body, no blood
No crown, no thorns
No bastard son, no chosen one

I count the days
When the oppressed are released
The ending of his reign
No Jesus, No Beast

No pits of sin to languish in
No path of just for us to follow
No foolish prayer and seething lies
No virgin birth on pagan earth

I await the time
When our hatred is unleashed
He'll rule no more
No Jesus, No Beast

Leader of fools
Creator of sin
Extractor of hope
Deceiver of truth

Can you hear us...Death to Jesus
Can you hear us...Death to Jesus
Can you hear us...Death to Jesus
Can you hear us...Death to Jesus
Can you hear us...Death to Jesus
Can you hear us...Death to Jesus
Can you hear us...Death to Jesus
Can you hear us...Death to Jesus

As horizons overcast with menacing formations
Those who will stand are committed no more
Icon of icons, shattered and overtaken
This Bastard, this Beast, this Jesus must die

Die

No Christ, no cross
No pain, no loss
No wanton guilt for us to bear
No body, no blood
No Crown, no thorns
No bastard son, no chosen one

I count the days
When the oppressed are released
The ending of his reign
No Jesus, No Beast
 
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