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Old January 5th, 2011 #1
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Default "In 1939 Poles assumed they were able to attack Berlin"

Poland wanted to believe it could defeat Germany, even though the intelligence they were being supplied with suggested something very different, believes WWII historian Professor Richard Overy.

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Old January 5th, 2011 #2
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Sure, Hitler wanted war so much, probably thats why he offered a peace to allies multiple times

I wonder why this, for sure very esteemed historian, forgot to mention that..
 
Old January 5th, 2011 #3
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Who cares what Court Historian Overy has to say..... look at that beautiful Jagdpanther in the background!!
 
Old January 5th, 2011 #4
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The Pollack generals were lunging on the leash with the cries of "We can be in Berlin in three months!!!".

As the Pollacks taunted the Germans along the border and massacred German civilians caught in the Versailles relocations, Hitler and Stalin carved up the country.

As a final ironic joke, Churchill gave Poland the guarantee - - if you are attacked, England will come to your aid.

How does that go... the rest is history?
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Old October 12th, 2014 #5
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Old October 13th, 2014 #6
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I have seen some implications among pro-Hitler people that the Poles wanted to attack Germany, but no hard evidence. It seems just another anti-Polish myth that has sprung up, just like the myth that Poles were "massacring" Germans before September 1939. These two myths were used in official propaganda by Hitler to justify his aggression against Poland.

Even if they assumed they could defeat Germany, which they couldn't, why would they want to? Germany had nothing that the Poles wanted, while the opposite was the case for the Germans and Poland.

Overy's conclusion that WW2 was about German nationalism and economic crisis is, I think, quite correct. Clearly, German nationalism - the desire to expand Germany's borders - played a part in the invasion of, say, Poland. But Hitler was also very pro-autarky, after his experiences of WW1 and after ; thus why he wanted land (Lebebsraum) in Poland and Russia that was not German.
 
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I have seen some implications among pro-Hitler people that the Poles wanted to attack Germany, but no hard evidence. It seems just another anti-Polish myth that has sprung up, just like the myth that Poles were "massacring" Germans before September 1939. These two myths were used in official propaganda by Hitler to justify his aggression against Poland.

Even if they assumed they could defeat Germany, which they couldn't, why would they want to? Germany had nothing that the Poles wanted, while the opposite was the case for the Germans and Poland.

Overy's conclusion that WW2 was about German nationalism and economic crisis is, I think, quite correct. Clearly, German nationalism - the desire to expand Germany's borders - played a part in the invasion of, say, Poland. But Hitler was also very pro-autarky, after his experiences of WW1 and after ; thus why he wanted land (Lebebsraum) in Poland and Russia that was not German.
The start to the second world war and the Danzig Massacres


Absolute rubbish! Over 55,000 Germans were slaughtered by Jewish Bolsheviks in Danzig. In fact, as soon as I find the historically repressed report on this I will post it. Meanwhile I have provided a video link above.

Lebebsraum was born from the fact that Germany could not feed her people and relied on food imports paid for by German exports. This is the reason why the Jews organised a world-wide boycott of German goods. In order to starve Germany into surrender. This boycott of German goods began in 1933 - years before any German military adventure.



https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...i_Boycott.html

I agree that Lebebsraum is not allied propaganda and was NS German policy to secure the breadbasket of the Ukraine. But this policy was born out of realpolitiks, and not from nationalist and chauvinistic reasons. Had the Jews/USA not forced the issue with Germany, would Hitler still had gone along with Lebebsraum? I don't know the answer to that. But the Jews attempts at starving the Germans didn't help the situation and only encouraged German expansion IMO.
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I have seen some implications among pro-Hitler people that the Poles wanted to attack Germany, but no hard evidence. It seems just another anti-Polish myth that has sprung up, just like the myth that Poles were "massacring" Germans before September 1939. These two myths were used in official propaganda by Hitler to justify his aggression against Poland.


You have seen this as you commented on it on the 6th of September on this very forum."Document Confirms British were Plotting to Invade Germany Before Germany Invaded Poland"
http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p...05#post1731605

It was also explained to you how the Poles were slaughtering innocent Germans.
As Gerry Fable points out over 55,000.
This was in a six month period.

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Old October 13th, 2014 #9
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Polish Atrocities

Against the German Minority in Poland


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Old October 13th, 2014 #10
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Adolf Hitler: Man of peace?

In the above link its absolutely clear Poland was the aggressor. And nobody can say that Hitler didn't offer reasonable proposals to avoid a war the kikes were dead set on from the very beginning.



 
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You have seen this as you commented on it on the 6th of September on this very forum."Document Confirms British were Plotting to Invade Germany Before Germany Invaded Poland"
http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p...05#post1731605

It was also explained to you how the Poles were slaughtering innocent Germans.
As Gerry Fable points out over 55,000.
This was in a six month period.
Do you expect a raving Bennite to tell the truth on this issue?
 
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Do you expect a raving Bennite to tell the truth on this issue?
Maybe as the other post was in the UK section she thought it would slip through the bullshit net.
Lucky I had the old analogue bullshit detector up graded to the nice new digital model.

One good thing is she has provoked people into reacting and actually learning about the facts of pre WW2.
 
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