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If we're going to tap around the edges of the faileocons, why ignore the potentially huge market of people now learning from the libertarians to hate the Fed, love the idea of secession, and love the idea of getting to make the adult life-decisions the ZOG overstate has usurped from them? We say to these whites, yes, Ron Paul and the libertarians have many good ideas, but unlike them we can put them in their proper context: an all-white nation. Be serious, you know that negroes are unfit for any kind of personal liberty. All the good things and problems the libertarians identify are only available and can only be solved in a White context. If you want to be an adult in all these other areas (money, schools), why not go the whole hog and just admit we want an all-White nation? I mean, if that weren't the real bottom line, isn't it obvious that the feds wouldn't have banned White free association? Libertarians offer some economic freedom to white people, but only white nationalism offers true and full political adulthood to the race that made this country - and the rest of the successful world. That's how I'd argue to libertarians. I see less need to attack them because libertarianism while only workable by whites is not intellectually tied to race. Therefore, you can ignore race as a libertarian without truly being a fraud, at least theoretically, whereas conservatism is utterly and wholly inextricable from race, and anyone who pretends otherwise is an out-and-out fraud or sellout. I don't see the libertarians as our competitors. Our competitors are the conservatives because we come from the same background and premises, making our cases hard to distinguish. Because conservatism is logically built on race, the average guy will assume things the conservative is not willing to say publicly for PC reasons, even though in fact the conservative will never actually defend them in real life. This has the effect of making WN, who will put the whole thing out there, appear extreme or redundant, keeping their natural allies - normal people - in the camp of the pseudos - the paleoconservative weaklings and the neoconservative boughtlings. Thus, I advise we use bait with the libertarians (people, not their name writers, who should be fought with), and bashing with the conservatives, who should be exposed as profiteering frauds. |
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Can WN's campaign in the mainstream ? Most in this thread seem agreed that political theories as we know them only apply to white people.Of course other races can and do espouse them but at base if its not whites your directing your political message to you are wasting your time.The whole concept of the USA can only be a white thing as it were.The "melting pot" would seem to historically refer to different white tribes as opposed to the modern concept of bantu, semite and coolie.
I think Americans taking a stand for the race are handicapping themselves even using the term "white" as a definition.What is an American ? Surely the only definition that can be made is an Aryan.The typeformers,the creators,the builders,the engineers,every good and decent thing that has come from America has been created and developed by whites. I think American activists need to look at the rivals,just as Buchanan and Paul are two steps removed from WN's the same is true for WN's in the other direction.Is it absoloutely essential to scream white power when saying in a calm voice States Rights ?
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If as Klaus says Greg agrees with Alex about Jews and conservatives, why did Greg come here a week ago and make the 4 posts he did?
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1.) Naming the Jew. 2.) The need for a White ethnostate. 3.) The worthlessness of conservatism. Greg was trying to explain the actions of Sam Francis, Pat Buchanan and Jared Taylor. He wasn't endorsing their various strategies. Huge difference there. We had a few laughs about the cryptos who think they can "sneak up on the Jews" through aracial conservatism. I don't know how anyone got the impression he isn't on our side.
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The thorniest problem of all (which can serve as our starting point) tends to be only dimly perceived by American WNs: how to permanently maintain a high level of White racial consciousness in a racially homogeneous ethnostate. Expulsion of all Jews and non-Whites from the U.S. and Canada would eliminate several problems for us, but would create an even larger one in perpetuating our own highly racialized identity in future generations. Without Jews and non-Whites to interact with on a daily basis, the racial consciousness of our successors will wane and soften, as it did in the past outside the South. How do you propose we address this problem? Quote:
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The history of the Confederacy is worth revisiting: a state founded on the principle of decentralization was forced by necessity to centralize. As a practical matter, a White ethnostate will need a strong central government to repel its enemies, at least for many generations.
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Buchanan on protectionism:
http://www.takimag.com/article/the_r...protectionism/ Lew Rockwell on protectionism: http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewr...ves/35832.html LRC crony "Manuel Lora" on protectionism: http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewr...ves/35836.html LRC crony Gary Barnett on protectionism: http://www.lewrockwell.com/barnett/barnett13.1.html
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How about taking a shot or two at your old friend Lewpus? He's far worse than Taylor or Buchanan.
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Of course, white citizens' racial understanding will be more theoretical and intellectual if the other races aren't around, except as travelers/visitors/ambassadors, but that's not a problem, not compared to what we have now. The solution is simply to diffuse the knowledge of racial differences through the various media. Without any jews to stifle the facts, the default setting will be racial normality. Whenever the issue arises, whites will have common knowledge to aid them, rather than multicult communist slogans about diversity. Quote:
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The expression of White differences through independent (micro)states built around different tendencies has to be balanced against collective racial defense, the basis of the new order. Is this vision even possible? Somehow it must be possible to combine a high degree of individual freedom with collective racial defense. Altho the idea of a monofunction over-government is appealing in that it would be light on the people (inexpensive to fund), it would involve the state in a number of non-military areas including trade and media and education. What, then, will be left to the microstates to decide? I just don't see any way around the signal political fact that "media is politics," as the jew billionaire said. It simply cannot be left open to subverting minorities. In fact, defending against intellectual subversion through the media might be the larger portion of the Defenders' task, since MAD would take care of foreign nuclear powers, and the continent would be physically free of muds. Quote:
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If people follow authority, and if they know the over-state functions NOT as their parents and lecturers but truly as their defenders, even to the point of willingly sacrificing a number of their members each year as a testament to the seriousness of their commitment, then this will tend to promote honor over money in the eyes of the population. There will be desire to get one's kids into the National Race Academy, like that top Japanese college. Quote:
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from them. I think a lot of white society knows who runs it, and there is resentment, but it is unarticulated and leaderless. For all acknowledgement that the recent rally in DC had a lot of Glenn Beck types and was pro ZOG, it also showed people were angry, and millions of people don't like Obama. There are some people who name the Jew. Frank Weltner was one of them, and his radio show was thoughtful and tried to get people to think. Frank has washed his hands of white America, and said the only real choice left is for whites to form their own churches and get tax-exempt status and go from there. When you talk about a HS curriculum, do you have a definite program, or merely a reading list? |
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That's a good post Klaus. I hope you're entering the TOQ contest.
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No one has attacked Lewpus more than me - VNN was founded as a LRC corrective. Lewpus we broiled for his and Ron Paul's uber-weak refusal to stand behind their perfectly defensible 'racist' words in Paul's newsletter, as outed by the TNR queer. |
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Make a country in which it is both illegal to employ aliens and looked down upon, businesses aren't going to fight that. But again, businessmen aren't sitting around all day with their thumbs up their asses like 99% of professors, they are hustling to make some money. |
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I wouldn’t walk across the street in defense of capitalism. Why should anyone be motivated to defend White men whose primary concern is to be left alone to do their own thing? That’s hardly a cause I’m willing to defend or give my life for. You want to volunteer to be the first chosen in your lottery, just to instill us with the proper motivation? Quote:
This “limited government” bullshit spewed forth from the likes of rush and sean is nothing more than whoring for the status quo of the judeo-capitalist plutocracy (do you even acknowledge that they exist?). Their control of the “free market” goes back to the industrial revolution. Take out the judaic influence and you still have a market dominated by greedy, selfish, unethical, immoral White men and their sometimes ersatz and unhealthy monopolized products. Why is this a state of affairs that you are in a hurry to return to!? Your question was, can we do better? Did you not bother to read what they are doing here http://www.mcc.es/ing/index.asp#? Mondragon is not an abstraction. Mondragon proves that YES WE CAN DO BETTER when we cooperate. NS proved that YES WE CAN DO BETTER, WHEN WE COOPERATE. (White people were actually HAPPY in NS Germany – see their smiling, happy faces in the newsreels?) Some White men NEED to be forced to cooperate with other White men FOR THE GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY – yes, just like some need to be forced to conform to our racial policies. You see, we really do have a duty and responsibility not just for educating our people, but also for their health and well being, too. In your mind the victims from the excesses of capitalism just don’t exist. Millions unemployed, uninsured, unskilled, millions more drowned in debt and in ever dysgenic competition with 3rd world labor. Why don’t you ever have anything to say to them? They ARE (mostly) White you know. Do you even care that you have no constituency? Like everything else you do – other people just don’t factor into your way of thinking. They can decide for themselves what flavor of cake to eat is your answer. And you call yourself a propagandist! Quote:
If you don’t agree, why not try out your pitch on them? See how many people are drawn to listen to you at your next rally. Just like with your paper, it can barely be given away for free! All it does is offend (as you yourself have already admitted; do the people really need to be told what niggers are?) So what info are you sharing with them? What the people need is ANSWERS. LET THEM EAT CRUMBS from judeo-capitalist cake is not an answer. Connecting and cooperating with other White people is the answer, as much as it might annoy or horrify you. Quote:
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Hadding back in business?
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