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Old October 21st, 2009 #61
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You know, I've been following VNN ever since the days when Bill White was in charge, and there's one thing I have never understood about VNN and all these other "nationwide" efforts that attempt to convince our people that it is somehow possible for a Movement as tiny and as fractured as ours to take back the entire country from Sea To Shining Sea and make all the minorities and Jews and fags and whatnot vanish in a puff of smoke, and then all of a sudden we're back in the days of Ozzie and Harriet and the Brady Bunch, cardigan sweaters and white bread and real butter on the table and taking your best gal to the sock hop and so forth and so on, you get the picture....

Leaving aside the question of whether the "good old days" really were ever that good in reality, and whether or not we should be trying to bring them back, exactly how is it to be done?

I've been following all this for nearly ten years now, and other than the Northwest Imperative I have yet to see sign one of any kind of bona fide, serious, adult, well-thought-out and feasible plan. A plan that is based out here in the real world and not on a computer screen.

Is there is fact such an alternative plan? Can anyone direct me to it? Can anyone respond other than by shouting abuse at Harold Covington? If not, why not?
 
Old October 21st, 2009 #62
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I'm a pretty big John Wayne fan, but don't recall him saying "Budger" in any film. Refresh my memory.

Edit: Ah, I see it comes from Cahill, US Marshal... one of the films I missed... but it's not used as a general moniker, a la "pilgrim"... it's the nickname of one of his younger sons.
Point is, it works.

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Your issues with this Covington chap aside, saying the case can't be made is disingenuous. Especially since you yourself start mentioning alternatives that suffer from the same, or greater, disadvantages that you mention about the NW Pacific area. You mention Texas? There's a joke, it's already pretty much in the hands of Atzlan, as is most of California. The Dakotas? Weren't you the one complaining about weather and lack of population? (And of course, any country with sense would not want to be land-locked, without open water ports, but that's addenda for future discussions).
Again, the burden of proof is on those advocating NW. I don't say the NW is bad necessarily, I say it is no better than any other area of the country. I don't object to even a character defective calling people to move there, I merely point out he has not made a compelling case NW is better than other locations. This point is beaten to death, you have the last word unless I see something counterfactual. Don't take my word, people, read Covington's fiction and judge for yourself.

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Need I remind you yet again about what I and others have already said? Those novels are futuristic, and merely because there is no favorable current political climate in that (and for that matter, every other) area in no way means things can't change, and quickly, once conditions worsen (as we all believe they will) and the proverbial balloon goes up.
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You've achieved your aim, eh? Perhaps to yourself... and one or two others that focus more on their rancor for the author and his allegedly shady past, as opposed to what the novels are demonstrating.
I had no rancor for Harold Covington until I saw him circulating defamatory material about myself, and doing it under a pseudonym. I take that stuff seriously. There's nothing "allegedly" about the judgment Will Williams won against Covington for just that type of casual slander and libel. It says something when no one will defend Covington's character. Everyone who has met the guy, who has commented on him, has something negative to say. That ought to tell you something.

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As far as anyone being dumb for not mentioning Utah, well... notice how close Utah is to the area under discussion?
I noticed it. I also notice that nowhere, best I can recall, does Covington mention it, even though it's stronger than the points he does make. Of course, I have lived in Utah and seen a functioning White culture first hand, and he has not. IMO, and I have been to all the states, Utah is far superior to Washington/Idaho/Oregon. It is extremely dry, and very healthy for anyone with allergies. It has better weather, by far, than Oregon or Washington and is not as cold as Idaho. Utah is beautiful and comparatively unpopulated apart from the Salt Lake Valley. Of course, Utah is not as nice as southern California, which was my larger point.

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Parts of MT and WY and Canada are also in the possible mix as future events unfold... at best, future additions, at worst, a nice buffer zone of semi-sympathetic lands.
Mexico is more pro-White than Canada.

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A myopic view on WA and OR alone, or even only the current borders of the three states in the proposal, is not seeing the forest for the trees... as the character Spock once said: "You must learn to think in three dimensions."
Tell Harold. He is the one who chose the three-state area.

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It's not merely a question of "starting a white movement"... it's a question of finding an area which will serve for fruition of the 14 words... being spread out in pockets across the US, well... the past 50 years have shown where that's getting us, a slow death.
It's purely theoretical. ZOG has as much power in the NW as in the NE. Concentration simply makes things easier for ZOG to carpet bomb, at least that's a way of looking at it as valid as criticizing pockets.

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History shows that most folks will remain apolitical and merely want to raise their families in peace and under the umbrella of White culture... we don't need a majority of people to take up arms... we just need them to, well... act White!
It would make more sense than what Covington proposes to set up camp in Utah and take advantage of the Mormon coverage - the normal morals and the only positive white breeding rate on earth than to try to start from scratch in the leftist gooked-out NW.

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So do yourself a favor, if only for intellectual credibility... think of the NW Imperative not as how that area currently stands, rather... on what it could be, if enough of the right kind of people decide to "come Home" because the majority of the rest of the country is beyond redemption.
Back to the point you haven't proved, which is that the NW is any more redeemable or less beyond redemption than anywhere else.

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In closing, I must say, I'm less than impressed with your attitude towards other White folk that are trying to do something/anything in this struggle against ZOG... individual grudges aside, your mean-spirited replies and dismissive expressions like "CI Idiots" don't serve you in good stead as a proponent for our cause.
Your boy spreads lies to defame my character, and you wonder why I don't trust him or like him? Yet even so I recommend people read his books. I'd say I'm being fairer to him than he merits.

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And judging by some of the threads and posts on this board of yours, I wouldn't be throwing stones about malcontents, idiots, and/or "single white male" losers... although, in your role as admin, I do defer to your superior experience with those types.
Yeah, well, when you feel confident enough to type under your real name, I'll take your free advice seriously. I've done what I could to kill the fantasy mentality and make VNNF something substantial.

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On a side note, the time-out on being logged in when one is trying to compose longer messages is very annoying. Any way that the board admin can fix that?
I don't know, you'll have to ask Varg. I don't find that a huge problem, but I learned years ago to save every long post before hitting enter. I have actually noticed a bigger problem, in my case, with double posts.
 
Old October 21st, 2009 #63
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Actually, as much as I never intended to either praise or bury the author in this thread, for the sake of fairness, I would say the most notable thing about the man is his literary output... I don't see too many other White-centric writers putting out anything equal to the NW tetralogy.
Tetralogy is pretentious. There is no development in these works; they are the same story four times. The first three are like warmups, the last one is the real thing.

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And if you're going to start quoting wikipedia authors, who apparently have a Conan-sized axe to grind, concerning a man's character, well... you've already lost the audience.
Find one person who knows him who says he's not a shitbag.
 
Old October 21st, 2009 #64
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You know, I've been following VNN ever since the days when Bill White was in charge, and there's one thing I have never understood about VNN and all these other "nationwide" efforts that attempt to convince our people that it is somehow possible for a Movement as tiny and as fractured as ours to take back the entire country from Sea To Shining Sea and make all the minorities and Jews and fags and whatnot vanish in a puff of smoke, and then all of a sudden we're back in the days of Ozzie and Harriet and the Brady Bunch, cardigan sweaters and white bread and real butter on the table and taking your best gal to the sock hop and so forth and so on, you get the picture....
A post ago you were just happening by here, now you've been tracking us for ten years. You're a congenital liar, Harold. You couldn't stop lying if you tried.

Yes, you've repeatedly posed this sea-to-shining-sea vs one state. It is but your conceit that one is easier or even merely different from the other. In fact they are exactly the same problem. ZOG isn't going to cede an inch, your fictional conceit notwithstanding. Your strategy is essentially "let one flower bloom," which is even better for ZOG than Mao's let a thousand flowers bloom. The point of allowing the blooming is to ease the identification preceding the chopping. You get all the anti-ZOG forces in one area and ZOG will chop it to ribbons. My opinion? No, not my opinion, fact. Look what ZOG did at Waco, and they weren't even White, just religious kooks. Then look at what ZOG did to the unregenerate Mormons who decided to open a second homestead in the wilds of Texas. It trumped up charges and pounced. The minute any movement threatened to come within 100 miles of being viable, let's define that as having the power politically to take over a single county, let alone an entire state, ZOG would move to kill. Again, not my opinion, fact. See what ZOG did to bagwan shree rajneesh in the heart of your very own NW, in Oregon. And he wasn't even White, just a religious leader.

Your fiction is fantasy, dear Harold. You simply begin at a point after which all of these technical problems are already solved. The NW is teeming with WN; the mass of non-WN supports WN as the sea supports fish. From that standpoint, sure, the endgame is as fun and breezy as you make it sound. But getting to that point is the real problem, and not only have you not solved that problem, you have not even acknowledged it.

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I've been following all this for nearly ten years now, and other than the Northwest Imperative I have yet to see sign one of any kind of bona fide, serious, adult, well-thought-out and feasible plan. A plan that is based out here in the real world and not on a computer screen.

Is there is fact such an alternative plan? Can anyone direct me to it? Can anyone respond other than by shouting abuse at Harold Covington? If not, why not?[/SIZE][/B]
Sure, check out our strategy section. It is you who has no serious plan. The way to go now is to develop a White curriculum for HS in all quarters. That builds your market, just as the Christians build theirs. Couple that with a White advocacy group that sharptons around the country wherever Whites need sticking up for.

In this way you grow both the national and the grassroots, and you give the feds a lower profile to shoot at, altho of course the feds can and will try to destroy everything.
 
Old October 21st, 2009 #65
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Tetralogy is pretentious. There is no development in these works; they are the same story four times. The first three are like warmups, the last one is the real thing.
I don't agree... they all tell a developing story from a different narrative angle and different characters' POVs. I merely use the word 'tetralogy' to signify that they are four related works that tell this complete tale of the foundation of the NW Republic.

But heaven forfend you should find my manner of expression pretentious... perhaps in the future I'll use the nonce word Quadrilogy, coined to market the Alien and Die Hard boxed sets.


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Find one person who knows him who says he's not a shitbag.
Immaterial and irrelevant... even in the doubtful occurrence that I were so inclined for such a "This Is Your Life" quest.

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Yeah, well, when you feel confident enough to type under your real name, I'll take your free advice seriously. I've done what I could to kill the fantasy mentality and make VNNF something substantial.
Fair enough... your cajones are admittedly larger than mine on that accord... alas, I'm still at a period in my life where putting a target on my back would be ill-advised.

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The point of allowing the blooming is to ease the identification preceding the chopping. You get all the anti-ZOG forces in one area and ZOG will chop it to ribbons. My opinion? No, not my opinion, fact. Look what ZOG did at Waco, and they weren't even White, just religious kooks. Then look at what ZOG did to the unregenerate Mormons who decided to open a second homestead in the wilds of Texas.
When speaking of a handful of folks, readily identifiable as said "cult" members, and living in the same homestead... then yes, one presents an easy target... and DUH!

But that's not what it's all about in the NW Imperative... it's about regular citizens going about their lives... if necessary, some of them eventually waging a guerrilla-style war against big, bad ZOG... you know, ZOG... those guys who couldn't defeat Charlie in an area far smaller than the Pacific NW... the guys with their hands full of the latest technology and weaponry, yet who can't seem to satisfactorily subjugate a pack of rag-tag renegade camel jockeys?
 
Old October 21st, 2009 #66
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I don't agree... they all tell a developing story from a different narrative angle and different characters' POVs. I merely use the word 'tetralogy' to signify that they are four related works that tell this complete tale of the foundation of the NW Republic.

But heaven forfend you should find my manner of expression pretentious... perhaps in the future I'll use the nonce word Quadrilogy, coined to market the Alien and Die Hard boxed sets.
You're using a word associated with Greek drama to imply a depth to Covington's work that isn't there. And I say that as a fan of the novels. To pretend they show some fleshed out vision or anything beyond "hey kids, let's take over some states" entertainment is silly.
 
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Immaterial and irrelevant... even in the doubtful occurrence that I were so inclined for such a "This Is Your Life" quest.
It might be irrelevant to the quality of his literary efforts, but it is wholly material to his encouraging people to move to the NW. He pointedly discourages character defectives from joining the pioneers, which is correct. But if he himself is a scumbag, which he is universally considered to be, it is the farthest thing from irrelevant.
 
Old October 21st, 2009 #68
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It might be irrelevant to the quality of his literary efforts, but it is wholly material to his encouraging people to move to the NW. He pointedly discourages character defectives from joining the pioneers, which is correct. But if he himself is a scumbag, which he is universally considered to be, it is the farthest thing from irrelevant.
Perhaps he's a reformed man... is there no merit in repentance?

All seriousness aside, I don't know the guy from Adam, nor do I imagine I'll ever run into him.

But I know that I love the music of Wagner, even though I understand he was quite the impertinent jackanapes himself.
 
Old October 21st, 2009 #69
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Budger - from John Wayne, like pilgrim.



Covington has lied about me. Yes, I don't like him. I don't trust him. I don't know anyone who does. He is scum. His books are good, so I recommend them. In this discussion, I simply point out that he has not made a persuasive case for whites moving to NW compared to moving anywhere else. No one has made a compelling case because it can't be made.



You'd get hostiles everywhere in the country, but you'd get more who suppored the racialist cause in the South than anywhere else. That's the point. Covington, in his fiction, writes as through his NW army has the support of the average northwesterner but that is a conceit. It does not reflect anything in the real world.



It would be that way everywhere, but less so in the South. The burden is on the NW proponent to make his case. It has not been done.



Yeah, cuz the mexes really limit themselves just to Yakima. I'm giving you the example of what is probably the second largest city in Washington's interior, given you've already conceded the big coastal cities are totally illiberal, and telling you it is at least 1/3% mexican today and growing more mexicanized daily. You are the one arguing this state of affairs is somehow good for whites, somehow better than other areas.



I've achieved my aim, you and the scumbag-liar have not. What dummy Hal doesn't even realize is that a better case could be made for Utah, which features one of only two white populations that is actually growing - and which has a historical legacy of religious racism.



The bottom line is there is not a single reason to believe the NW is better than any other section of the country for starting a white movement.
The U.S. census says Washington state is 75% non-hispanic white, where the U.S. average is 65% non-hispanic white.
I feel that you are right that the south will be more fertile for local recruits initially, but if we make the assumption that what we need to establish is a 90% plus white nation state, then the south has a huge problem.
As a whole, particularly the militant white areas, the South has a higher non-white percentage than the U.S. average.
We will probably get all whites in the U.S. to become much more racially conscious soon, and if we don't we might as well shoot ourselves right now, but it's a question wether the Southern whites will become militant enough to some how remove a third of the Southern population, some 12-15 million people. Even N.B. Forest turned against his own Klan organization.
Also the non-whites in the South are more homogeniously Black, which means more unity in resistance to white "expansionism."
And don't forget, the average illegal Mex's has been in the U.S. only 15 years or less. This is not their home.
The Blacks have been here going on 400 years. They consider the South their home, and unlike the Mex's they didn't come voluntarily sneaking over the border.
The means the Blacks are in a h--- of a lot stonger political position with respect to gaining white sympathy in the North, Midwest AND even in the South. Jimmy Carter types.
As to Utah, it is land locked, which prevents out side assistance and we can assume ZOG will want to prevent white freedom.
Tom Chittum mentioned in "Civil War Two" that accoring to Mao's dictum a succesfull insurgency (and I think a small independant state) needs outside assitance.
Some where Chittum, with infantry Guerillla combat experience, recomended the Northwest as a good Gureilla area.
Both the Southeast and Northwest have extensive harbors, but the Northwest is closer to Russia, by far our most likely usefull allie.
Also Utah has a mormon cultural/political infrastructure and the LDS offically opted for diversity 20 years ago.
Nothing is certain and these are all arguable points, but all the Northwest migration movement needs, accorind to the NF theory, is 50,000 white political activist.
Soon the South alone could spare that many p.o.'d whites, and just 100,000
Bolshevik activist took over the Russian empire of 160,000,000.
 
Old October 21st, 2009 #70
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The most notable thing about Harold Covington is his proclivity for lying.

From his wikipedia page:

Covington extensively uses the internet to promote his neo-Nazi views and to promote his idea of a Northwest Homeland. He has at least 3 Yahoo groups; Northwest Freedom [8], Aryan Chat [9], The Truth Commission, [10] a weblog ThoughtCrime / Down With Jugears [11] and a website, The Northwest Homeland [12].

In addition he uses a dozen or more Yahoo ID's or aliases, including Susan Enders, Steve Riddle, The Aryan History Series, Erika Lang, Jack Torrance, Keith Fulton, Valkarya, L. Bradford Davis, glibneylint, northwestfront, npalongview. [13][14]
A NEO-NAZI!! Thanks for this quote from the ( ADL??)
 
Old October 21st, 2009 #71
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You know, you don't HAVE to live in Seattle... the NW Imperative has some other alternatives.

Perhaps Boise might be more to your liking?
The northwest has nothing to recommend it as a White nationalist mecca. If I happened to end up in the area it would be for my own reasons, and I'd have nothing to do with the few dozen Christian Identity nuts lurking in the woods.
 
Old October 21st, 2009 #72
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Perhaps he's a reformed man... is there no merit in repentance?
Very, very few people ever reform. He is absolutely casual in his willingness to tell lies about anybody who tells the truth about him. I'm not inventing the fact that Williams won a judgment against him (for 200k i think) and he left NC between days to avoid paying it. That's his character. It's not going to change.

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But I know that I love the music of Wagner, even though I understand he was quite the impertinent jackanapes himself.
Well, that's just bad taste. Some love Wagner, Mark Twain and I can't stand him.
 
Old October 21st, 2009 #73
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[Sigh...] First off, Alex, I am not Harold Covington, although concedo I use a pseudonym, because unlike some I do have a job and career to protect.

Try to understand, Alex..your saying something is so does not make it so.

You are clearly motivated by little more than a bilious personal hatred for Harold Covington. I notice that you declined my invitation to lay out your own alternate plan. I think it is safe to say therefore that you have none. Your objections to the Northwest seem to be nothing more than a collection of very minor nit-picks, almost all of which are substantively addressed in the Northwest novels and in the White book.

Personal hatred for one man is not a political program, Alex. Nor is it a solution to our ongoing racial crisis.
 
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I'm sorry, I can't resist adding as a quick postscript that the NorthwestfrontPro YouTube site has gotten 35,800 channel views in less than a month of operation. Okay, granted, that's not Paris Hilton or Britney Spears Rave level exposure, but it ain't chicken feed. There is definitely something moving out there.

The fact is that Alex's opinion seems to be in a minority in the Movement. HAC said in one of his internal bulletins that over 1000 Brigades have been bought or otherwise distributed so far. He also says, and I can verify personally, that we are finally bringing in "normal" people from outside the Movement.

We'll leave aside the question of how normal your typical White American is these days, but you get what I'm saying. We're talking about men (and more than a few women) who are uncontaminated by the Movement's happy horseshit, who think Glenn Miller is a 1940s band leader and who simply don't give a damn about all this weird esoteric how-many-Skinheads-can-dance-on-the-head-of-a-pin gibberish from the 1990s.

Yes, it's a slow, slow process and it's incredibly frustrating. It's still very much three steps forward and two steps back. But the fact is that guys on VBulletin boards who rant and rave about things that happened 20 years ago (which they are usually incorrectly informed about anyway) are going to become less and less relevant to anything happening out here in the real world, which won't be difficult, since they're only barely relevant now, in the absence of anything else.
 
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Very, very few people ever reform. He is absolutely casual in his willingness to tell lies about anybody who tells the truth about him. I'm not inventing the fact that Williams won a judgment against him (for 200k i think) and he left NC between days to avoid paying it. That's his character. It's not going to change.
I recall hearing a quote somewhere along the lines of "don't expect people to change and you'll be right most of the time... but when you're wrong, you'll be tragically wrong." Seems like a sound maxim to me.

So, these courts that awarded this Williams fellow $200K... are these the same courts whose corruption is decried often on this and other forums?



And $200K for libel or slander (or whatever)?!!! Sounds like an awfully golden reputation that was sullied. I'd guess the judge, probably jewish and well-aware of the personalities involved, was trying to make an example of Covington.

Truth be told, if some judge said I had to pay $200K to somebody because of something I said/wrote, I'd probably skip town too... guess my character, like my wallet, just wouldn't stretch that far.


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Well, that's just bad taste. Some love Wagner, Mark Twain and I can't stand him.
Weeeeellllll.... Mark Twain... that settles it then... case closed!


(And I'm sure he's smiling up there in heaven right now, knowing that his name was invoked, presumably to lend credence to an otherwise inane opinion, held by he who is apparently the biggest philistine since Goliath.)


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The fact is that Alex's opinion seems to be in a minority in the Movement.
And elsewhere... especially in re Wagner.
 
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HAC said in one of his internal bulletins that over 1000 Brigades have been bought or otherwise distributed so far. He also says, and I can verify personally, that we are finally bringing in "normal" people from outside the Movement.
You have access to his internal bulletins? What are you, his minion?

Am I speaking to Covington now?
 
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Am I speaking to Covington now?
No, you are not. Please remember that Alex Linder is not some kind of deity. A gnome, maybe, but not a god. Simply because he says something is so, that does not make it so.

You know what? This is starting to get silly now, as it always does, and I am falling into my old habit of internet addiction again. That's my fault. I had forgotten how mindlessly addictive these stupid things can be, but the fact is that I have a VBulletin problem just like others have drinking and gambling problems. (My addiction first manifested itself back in the days of Usenet. God, wasn't that a loony bin?)

Anyway, I came back in for a bit in a way to see if I could handle it, but I don't like the warning signs. Just as an alcoholic shouldn't hang around in bars, I need to go cold turkey on this thread and lay off the VNN sauce, for a while, at least, before I fall completely off the wagon and start howling at the moon like so many other poor bastards on this board.

So: I am terminating my participation in this thread. Rave away all you like, the rest of you, but I won't be reading it. I may check back in in a few days and glance over the rest of the board, but maybe not. No kidding; it really is an addiction and guys like Alex Linder in a way are in the same moral position as saloon owners, distillers, and casino operators.
 
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No kidding; it really is an addiction and guys like Alex Linder in a way are in the same moral position as saloon owners, distillers, and casino operators.
So let me get this straight.
Admittedly you're weak and have self-control issues.
However this is not your fault.
The blame rest solely with the presumably morally pernicious service provider, saloon owners, distillers, casino operators, and web forum operators.
I see.
Maybe you should enter a "twelve step" program and receive help for your "disease".
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Yeah, I've heard hundreds of people say that, but none of them can do better. It is a mistake to judge a work like TD by literary standards, that's not the intent of the author.

Judge it this way: Pierce achieves what Covington cannot: he communicates the deep tragedy of the thing. Pierce's Hunter is better written, but not as effective as Turner Diaries. My guess is not a single person will move to the Northwest because of Covington's words, and since that is his intent, he has failed. Which is not to say his books are not enjoyable reads, they are.
I've moved. At least I've currently got an appartment in Everette.
I'm out here to see if I can link up with some WN's.
I've posted about my activities with pictures in order to try and meet WN.
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/show...=590490&page=9
I've met a couple of posters.
That having been accomplished the next thing is to get my home in Florida sold before moving permanently.
As Machiavelli wrote in "The Discourses" America is now so corrupt the sheeple are beginning to realize they can't change things by "normal means" and are beginning to use Machiavelli's "extraordinary means", rowdy town hall meetings and the 70,000 white 9/12 march on Washington.
A lot of things that were impossible for us five years ago are going to become doable in the next couple of years. Getting together in little activist communities of WN'ist is job #1.
You don't need to go to the Northwest to do that, although I've chose that course, but do it SOME WHERE.

I'm not sure about NF actual politics but they do seem to have a number of internet posters.
 
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Did I tell you guys a hour ago a lot of things were going to
become possible for us the next two years?
See, it's already starting to happen.
Below is Buchaninens take on "The Oath Keeprs"
Hey I'm eligible. Ex-Army infantry.
Does an hours lead time qualify me as a profet?

Think I'll join. That ota spif up my D.H.S. file.


Patrick Buchanan on “Middle American Radicals”
The TOQ Online News Desk
From Taki’s Magazine, October 20, 2009

In the brief age of Obama, we have had “truthers,” “birthers,” Tea Party activists and town-hall dissenters.

Comes now, the “Oath Keepers.” And who might they be?

Writes Alan Maimon in the Las Vegas Review-Journal, Oath Keepers, depending on where one stands, are “either strident defenders of liberty or dangerous peddlers of paranoia.”

Formed in March, they are ex-military and police who repledge themselves to defend the Constitution, even if it means disobeying orders. If the U.S. government ordered law enforcement agencies to violate Second Amendment rights by disarming the people, Oath Keepers will not obey.
 
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