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Old January 18th, 2020 #1
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. . a while ago I did a thread here about the racial history of Spain . . https://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=554729

. . without being too crude , some dissent has always existed within our movement about which groups are to be considered Aryan /Caucasian.

In fact many people question the racial makeup of Southern Europe.

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As is the case with Spain Italy is often questioned . .

So . . are Italians part of our race . . ?


First of all , Italy as a united nation didn't really exist until about the 19th century ( the 1800s ) . . .

That's when it was united . .

Before that . .

The people to dwell on Italian soil in ancient times were the Italics ( from which the area actually got its name ) . . They were a grecoid people . . Most people inhabiting the Mediterranean region in old times were of grecoid stock . .

The Romans descended from them.

We all know about the Roman Empire.


But . . a fact which is often underestimated in history is that the Roman Empire actually fell because the Romans themselves disappeared . . that's right.

How could such a mighty empire fall except for loss of identity . . ?

( many underground-historians agree that that would be the only logical explanation , though most 'politicallly correct' historians refuse to stand for the thesis that race had something to do with the fall of the Roman Empire . .) . .

Well . . slaves , especially coloured slaves , black African slaves , Ethiopian slaves , mixed-race Egyptian slaves , i. e. people with this phenotype had become the majority.

The Romans 'disappeared' . .

That left a quite mixed-race population.

. . how did it continue though . . ?

. . During the Middle Ages Italy got a new deal of Caucasian blood via the lombards invading it. The Lombards were a germanic tribe which settled in most of Italy , even to the point of 'driving' the mixed-race people very down south.

So . . Italy got a new deal of Caucasian blood.

In fact the Renaissance ( the rebirth of antique mind ) started from Northern Italy at the end of the Middle Ages ( at about 1500 ) . . Geniuses like Leonardo Da Vinci , Michelangelo et al were Lombards . . Northern Italy was one of the cradles of the Renaissance.

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In more modern times . . in the 19th century Italy became a united nation whereas previously small states had prevailed. The Italian area wasn't really one unified state.

The north of course was largely Lombard whereas in the south, like I said, remnants of the Roman mixing were still found . .

As soon as Italy was a united nation many southerners took their chance of moving to the north. The north was more wealthy.

Hmmmm . .

The present situation :

Northern Italian separatist attempts are strong and there even is a saying in Italy which translates as "Africa starts south of Rome" ( ! ) . . I suppose one can figure out what that means.

Well . . the facts summed up . . Rome miscegenated , fell , left quite a miscegenated population behind , Lombards invaded , took a large part of Italy , modern day Italy : northern separatist attempts.

This is the racial history of the Italian area.

Romans , Lombards , racial confusion.

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So . . is Italy to be regarded as a 'mixed country per se' ? No . .

Does it have racial problems ? Yes . .

Still stemming from Roman times there are mixed race remnants.

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. . just a little breakdown on the racial situation on Italy throughout time.






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Old January 18th, 2020 #2
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...without being too crude , some dissent has always existed within our movement about which groups are to be considered Aryan /Caucasian. In fact many people question the racial makeup of Southern Europe....
The question is - did Hitler?


 
Old January 18th, 2020 #3
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Our absent friend Stewart Meadows is Italian and he is a smart White man. It's true ancient Romans miscegenated that caused many problems much like our own population is doing today to our detriment and possible extinction, and caused in a large part by the same destructive influence of christ-insanity and judaism the Romans experienced. And that's another huge topic in itself that is addressed on this site all the time as you know.
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Old January 19th, 2020 #4
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. . that's a good meme . .


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Old January 20th, 2020 #5
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But . . a fact which is often underestimated in history is that the Roman Empire actually fell because the Romans themselves disappeared . . that's right.

How could such a mighty empire fall except for loss of identity . . ?

( many underground-historians agree that that would be the only logical explanation , though most 'politicallly correct' historians refuse to stand for the thesis that race had something to do with the fall of the Roman Empire . .) . .

Well . . slaves , especially coloured slaves , black African slaves , Ethiopian slaves , mixed-race Egyptian slaves , i. e. people with this phenotype had become the majority.

The Romans 'disappeared' . .

That left a quite mixed-race population.

...... really... so the numerous invasions from the Vandals,Visigoths, the Huns, other Germanic Barbarians Tribes, Rome Splitting in Two, Hiring these same barbarians as mercs, Barbarian tribes Uprising diseases such as Small Pox, and the rise of ,Christianity weren't the cause for Romes downfall?

Where did you get the insane Idea that Rome was a majority of Black African slaves? Lol

Even i don't believe that. Rome always enslaved WHITE EUROPEANS from the places they ... uplifted The only Time Rome ever had Contacts with black Africans was when they went down the west African coast and country side, the Sahara, and when they had a brief war with the Nubians in East Africa which ended up in a Treaty signed on the Island of Samos.

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Old January 20th, 2020 #6
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The question is - did Hitler?


Strange i somehow remember the Italians getting their asses handed to them by Ethiopia, and Nazi Germany supplying Ethiopia with Mauser Rifles in the Second War. Your meme makes you seem ignorant.
 
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...... really... so the numerous invasions from the Vandals,Goths, the Huns, other Germanic Barbarians Tribes, Rome Splitting in Two, Hiring these same barbarians as mercs, Barbarian tribes Uprising diseases such as Small Pox, and the rise of ,Christianity weren't the cause for Romes downfall?

Where did you get the insane Idea that Rome was a majority of Black African slaves? Lol

Even i don't believe that. Rome always enslaved WHITE EUROPEANS from the places they ... uplifted The only Time Rome ever had Contacts with black Africans was when they went down the west African coast and country side, the Sahara, and when they had a brief war with the Nubians in East Africa which ended up in a Treaty signed on the Island of Samos.
I said 'coloured slaves in general' . .

Not necessarily black African ones only . .

By 'coloured' I meant , with dark skin colour which could also mean mixed people . .

The Egyptians for example at the time the Romans had contact with them were already mixed.

The Roman Empire 'darkened'.

The original Romans disappeared.

When a culture disappears , so do their empires.


The Germanic slaves , and the difficulties in state may have contributed to the fall of Rome but in the long run the Romans themselves disappeared . So . . did their realm_.

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Old January 20th, 2020 #8
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...... really... so the numerous invasions from the Vandals,Goths, the Huns, other Germanic Barbarians Tribes, Rome Splitting in Two, Hiring these same barbarians as mercs, Barbarian tribes Uprising diseases such as Small Pox, and the rise of ,Christianity weren't the cause for Romes downfall?

Where did you get the insane Idea that Rome was a majority of Black African slaves? Lol

Even i don't believe that. Rome always enslaved WHITE EUROPEANS from the places they ... uplifted The only Time Rome ever had Contacts with black Africans was when they went down the west African coast and country side, the Sahara, and when they had a brief war with the Nubians in East Africa which ended up in a Treaty signed on the Island of Samos.
Visigoths.
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I said 'coloured slaves in general' . .

Not necessarily black African ones only . .

By 'coloured' I meant , with dark skin colour which could also mean mixed people . .

The Egyptians for example at the time the Romans had contact with them were already mixed.

The Roman Empire 'darkened'.

The original Romans disappeared.

When a culture disappears , so do their empires.

The Germanic slaves , and the difficulties in state may have contributed to the fall of Rome but in the long run the Romans themselves disappeared . So . . did their realm . . .
Rome was spread around all of Europe, and parts of west Asia, the Romans Greeks, Egyptians and even made it to the Americas.
 
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I had an Italian friend in my youth...

He couldn't stop hitting on Sicilians.

He even called them "the niggers of Italy".
 
Old January 22nd, 2020 #11
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I had an Italian friend in my youth...

He couldn't stop hitting on Sicilians.

He even called them "the niggers of Italy".
Sicily has quite a complex racial history . . ranging from Saracens to Normans..

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Sicily has quite a complex racial history . . ranging from Saracens to Normans..
My friend saw them as the scum of Italy
 
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Some niggers are just NIGnorant of history
 
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Italo-Nigger War


. . . that post sent my beer all over the screen from the sudden outburst of laughter
. . Hughie , you owe me one . .
 
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Some niggers are just NIGnorant of history
so did you forget the Italians lost that war? Just like they lost the first war vs Ethiopia? I mean granted the Italians used Chemical Weapons, and STILL LOST, and HITLER SUPPLIED ETHIOPIA WITH RIFLES LOL Keep ignoring this part.
 
Old January 22nd, 2020 #16
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. . another fact which could be mentioned which points to at least southern Italians sometimes having something to do with Northern-Africa is this.


. . that's right . . . pizza.

The pizza historically doesn't have something to do with Europe , it goes back to the old nomads of Northern-Africa . . The precursor of today's pizza was some kind of flat-bread belaid with stuff . . . that is historically proven.
 
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Italy , among other things , turned fascist because it is one of the most traditional countries in Europe , i. e. a country very conscious of its past . .

Mussolini was a former socialist . . Italian fascism was some kind of 'counter-socialism'.

It doesn't matter whether Hitler viewed southern-Europeans as fully Aryan or not ,he looked for allies. And was anti-Communist . .

Italy , among other things , strived to re-gain colonies again as it had lost its colonies after World War 1 . . Yes , fascism was an ideology bent on a powerful state . .

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The question whether Hitler viewed some European groups as Aryan or not aside , he looked for allies . . . especially against Communism / Bolshevism.
 
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Our absent friend Stewart Meadows is Italian and he is a smart White man.
Absent? Jaysus Christmas, was he banned or is dead?

Besides you, the best poster on here.
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Absent? Jaysus Christmas, was he banned or is dead?

Besides you, the best poster on here.
my favorite posters are coldfire, hugh axton and...you

coldfire tops everything with his interesting threads, hugh is a very humorous person i think (i often laugh in a positive way at his humorous remarks concerning the topic ), as for you, I like the fact that you, as a female, are dedicated to the cause and keep up with the boys here ..it's always though as a female to keep up with the boys, lol..

as for Stewart Meadows, haven't really read enough posts by him to make a statement, even though he seemed dedicated as well
 
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