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Old November 6th, 2012 #101
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Hey Dway, what disturbs me the most about you isn't your Communist ideology, or your misguided criticisms of Hitler, or your faggot defending, but your lack of faith in Christ.



Why don't you just accept Christ's love when its given?
 
Old November 8th, 2012 #102
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Why is that? I believe that the historical Christ (a Jew, a Pharisee of the Hillel school, a rebellious hippie teaching free-love) is very real and taught a message of great significance to his community.

I will admit that the only part of the Passion narratives that still eludes me is the Resurrection. The mere fact(?) that the tomb was empty is the greatest problem atheists/humanists face. For some Christians I've encountered, the Resurrection/Empty Tomb is the only thing keeping them from crossing the line into atheism. And rightfully so, I suppose. This portion of the Passion narrative is the only part that is kicking atheist's asses. Richard Dawkins still doesn't have an appropriate response to the problem. The best conclusion I can come up with is the moment where the road splits. Either Jesus was Resurrected or his body was physically removed. Neither of which do we have any evidence for.

However, the empty tomb, because it lacks explanation, is still insufficient for me to claim any kind of faith.

To answer your last question, what is the need of a "Savior"? Humanity and life is all we've got. We (humans) are the source of our own redemption. One life, one world, one chance.
 
Old November 8th, 2012 #103
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However, the empty tomb, because it lacks explanation, is still insufficient for me to claim any kind of faith.
Oh ye of little faith.

Since there is no convincing evidence of Jesus' life, why are you nonplussed by the absence of his mortal remains?

The tomb of christic delusion heaps up daily.
 
Old November 8th, 2012 #104
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Oh ye of little faith.

Since there is no convincing evidence of Jesus' life, why are you nonplussed by the absence of his mortal remains?

The tomb of christic delusion heaps up daily.
Perhaps you should read Dr. Bart Ehrman's book Did Jesus Exist? The question and/or problem doesn't concern the existence of Jesus the man. Deluded atheists who are more specifically anti-theists have been chasing that bottomless rabbit hole for decades.

Admittedly, evidence is circumstantial. We must always consider hearsay. However, to simply dismiss Jesus' existence is poor form and often lacks merit.
 
Old November 8th, 2012 #105
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I love this. The Christ-tards like to claim that Our Hitler was an atheist ("HE WAS A DEMON POSSESSED MONSTER WHO NEEDED JESUS IN HIS LIFE! SIX MILLION JEWS! NO, NOT 5,999,999 OR 6,000,001, SIX MILLION ON THE DOT!"). The liberal atheist tards like to claim he was a Christian ("HE WANTED TO RULE THE WORLD AND KILL EVERYBODY BECAUSE HE WAS A RELIGION FANATIC!").

The truth lies somewhere in between. Fact is Der Fuhrer used Christianity when it was politically expedient. There's plenty of quotes to establish his disdain for it as well.
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Old November 9th, 2012 #107
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I love this. The Christ-tards like to claim that Our Hitler was an atheist ("HE WAS A DEMON POSSESSED MONSTER WHO NEEDED JESUS IN HIS LIFE! SIX MILLION JEWS! NO, NOT 5,999,999 OR 6,000,001, SIX MILLION ON THE DOT!").
Apparently saying 8 million, 12 million, 16 million or 20 million is also ok. But 5,999,999 still makes you a holocaust denier. Yeah, I told a Jew one time it was 12 million that died in the holocaust, and I got no argument out of him. Just to see the reaction I'd get. And if he tried to argue otherwise, I was prepared to call him an anti-semite and holocaust denier .
 
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<A lot of stupid stupid shit ...>

Epstein WAS an "assimilated and disinterested Reform Jew" (please note the bolded portion here).

<... a lot more stupid shit>
Ok, it is amateur intellectual time, where we will be dazzled by his display deconstruction and word games that were taught to him by genius Professor GoldSilverPearlGreenSteinBergWitz who wrote Utopia for Idiots.

Let see it we can focus your attention on one of your insights. Please entertain, ops, I mean enlighten us, by answering the following questions:

1) What is an assimilated jew?
2) What did the jew assimilate into?
3) What defines the thing the jew assimilated into?
4) What defines the thing the jew was in prior to the assimilation?
5) What are some of the other things the jew could have assimilated into?
6) Is is possible for a non-jew to assimilate into what the jew was in before his assimilation?
7) What are some of the major indicators the jew has successfully assimilated?
8) Is is possible the jew would claim to be assimilated but was only pretending to be for economic gain or for a reason that benefits the thing the jew was in before jew claimed assimilation?
9) What would be some of the major signs that a jew is just pretending to be assimilated?
10) Would is be accurate to claim that the jew assimilates into rich things?

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Old November 9th, 2012 #109
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1) Religion in general, even Hitler's "Christianity", is a mental disorder.
2) Utopia is not a religious perspective. It is a philosophical and ethical mindset.
3) Utopia is what you make of it. If your drive is WAR, then enemy of humanity, then extermination may be the only appropriate response.
Religions is not a mental disorder. A behavior that has been a aspect of over 99% of all Human and sub-humans is almost certainly a product evolution, meaning that it is genetic. Religion must provide a survival benefit for Humans and sub-humans for as far as we know it was universally practiced prior to the modern period. Interesting that is seem only Humans and sub-humans in the modern period claims not to be religious? What changed?

Many scientist will identify religion as defining Humans and sub-humans. Other scientist are studying the brain and it religions nature and searching for a genetic basis of religion.

Utopia is a fairytale believed be lower intelligent beings who pretend it is not a religion and base the sense of superiority and self righteousness on that pretending. The fact is, any educated person knows that Utopia cannot exist. There is a much greater chance there is a Heaven with Angels and a wise old Guy with a grey hair and long beard.

"Utopia is what you make of it." Really? Give us two or three examples of the closest Humans or sub-humans have come to creating a Utopia, so we can understand "what you make of it"?

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Old November 9th, 2012 #110
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Apparently saying 8 million, 12 million, 16 million or 20 million is also ok. But 5,999,999 still makes you a holocaust denier. Yeah, I told a Jew one time it was 12 million that died in the holocaust, and I got no argument out of him. Just to see the reaction I'd get. And if he tried to argue otherwise, I was prepared to call him an anti-semite and holocaust denier .
Hitler and the Nazis were just so damn thorough and efficient, perhaps even obsessive compulsively psychotic about their numbers , it was definitely 6 million on the nose! At the end as the Soviets were knocking on the Auschwitz walls, they made a Jewish woman give birth prematurely just to hit the mark!

Haha but yeah I do that too whenever I'm trolling/mocking someone in person. I'd say Israel needs to be protected because Hitler killed 60 million Jews and it can never happen again. Their reply would be "Wow, really? Never knew it was that high". Every. Fucking. Time. They just go along with it.
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Old November 9th, 2012 #111
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This "Dway" character (certainly pronounced with a lisp) signed up over a year ago and still hasn't learned anything other than its mumbo jumbo garbage fed to him by the jewish media which has caused its I.Q. to stay @ 60. Short for 60 million.

It's the sort that dresses up in clown suits like that at the Channon-Newsom rally bee-bopping up and down flapping its mouth with no real meaning, only to make a fool of itself.

It's the sort that denies and refutes claiming there are no sources or factual information other than its fictitous mind telling him there is no reality other than what its fictitous mind is telling it. No different than a schizophrenic.

Can't you see the difference on the type of people you debate with including this "Dway" character?
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Old November 9th, 2012 #112
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Religions is not a mental disorder.
If religion (note Dway the Mental Midget doesn't differentiate religious behaviour, religious ritual, theology and/or the social/cultural role of religious institutions/ritual) is a 'mental disorder' then so; by necessary extension, must philosophy be given that religious thought and philosophy are essentially the same thing. The search for the unknowable by evolving point and counter-point debate, but which (like religious thought) can never per se be conclusive because it lacks a concrete base and limitation to its speculative positions (which are after all just abstractions [what do know and how do we know it] from the proverbial speck of dust trying to understand the cardboard box it habits [i.e. a form of scholasticism in a sense]).

Besides if religion was a mental disorder than what the hell is Marxism? Madness 2.0 perhaps?
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Besides if religion was a mental disorder than what the hell is Marxism? Madness 2.0 perhaps?
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Old November 10th, 2012 #114
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=VvpFZI-GWHQ

A VNN member has recently posted this video. Nice find!

I don't speak German, but I remember watching a documentary about this ceremony. A martyr's name was announced and the assembled ranks would then all shout - "here!". To signify that the fallen comrade is still alive, in spirit, within the German Volk.



Notice the lack of any Christian symbolism. No Christian cross on any of the graves. Only a swastika. (On the video clip.)
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Old November 11th, 2012 #115
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Old November 11th, 2012 #116
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Get yer Che shirt at Hot Topic



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Old June 28th, 2014 #117
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Jews in Germany May Not Register As ‘deists’

December 3, 1940


ZURICH (Nov. 9)

Jews in Germany who have left the Jewish religious community without having adopted the Protestant or Catholic faith and who do not consider themselves atheists must not register as deists (Gottglaeubige), according to a decision of the Reich Executive of the National Socialist Party published in the National Socialist Party Correspondence.

The term deists (Gottglaeubige), the announcement states, denotes exclusively a religious attitude particular to people of the German and kindred races. Any extension of this limit would be equivalent to an internationalization of the belief and would constitute an abuse which must be rejected by the Party Executive.

Jews unwilling to belong any longer to a specific religious community and at the same time declining to consider themselves atheists may give expression to this by stating that they are “not members of a religious community,” the announcement concludes.



Grave of a political leader

"The party symbol in bronze is above the name. The use of the life and death runes is exemplary for believers in god [Gottgläubigen — the Nazi term for those who claimed a vague, but non-Christian, religious belief]. Despite its simplicity, it is a beautiful model."

If you are looking in from time to time DWAY, this is for you.
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