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Old December 2nd, 2012 #1
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Default The Japanese - Could they be distantly related to the Germanic Peoples?

Hitler described the Japanese as "the Aryans of Asia".

I believe there may be relics left over in the languages. If one looks at the past tense in both swedish and japanese, both words often end in -ede or -te in swedish, -da or -ta in japanese.

"to love"
japanese: ai / aiste
swedish: lske

"to buy"
japanese: kau
german: kaufen
swedish: kp

I believe there may have been some common descent tens of thousands of years ago, before the two groups branched off.

There are a few more eery similarities. Both peoples reside in heavily temperate forested areas. There are some strikingly unusual cultural similarities:
http://www.angelfire.com/hi/HambergHawaii/swejap1.html

Another thing to mention here is the ethnic minority who have long inhabited northern Japan known as the Ainu, who mysteriously share some physical traits in common with caucasians. Many of the swedish - the fully germanic looking ones - have features loosely resembling eye folds, though not as frequently as the Sami (historic minority in swedish Lapland in the far north), and not nearly to the extent as east asians.

Statistically, the Japanese people have the highest levels of intelligence of any peoples, besides those descended from europe, and of course the jews. And the Japanese certainly seem to be one of the most industrious peoples in the world, on par with Germany and Scandinavia.

This is entirely my own original theory. As far as anthropologists and languists are concerned, the germanic peoples and language have absolutely nothing to do with eachother, and any similarities are mere coincidence. But the origins of the Japanese language are a mystery, as the structure does not resemble Korean or Chinese.

And of course, the Japanese were allied with Germany during the second world war, and both of them sought similar ethnic objectives. There are still a number of ultra nationalist groups in japan, somewhat of the equivalent of neo-nazi groups in germany, but of course without the negative connotations.

I found this video rather amusing; in it the leader of the Japanese demonstrators shouts in his megaphone at a tourist "White pig go home!"

Fortunately, the Japanese have a no-nonesense policy about immigration. Which is a good thing too, as diversity would no doubt destroy their famed social cohesion.
 
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I don't know anything about Asian culture; however I do know that an Aryan tribe known as the Tocharians migrated East into Asia and settled in the Xinjiang province of western China by 1800 BC. From the naturally mummified remains discovered in Tocharian burial sites, we know that the Tocharians had red / blond hair, were blue-eyed, wore European clothing, had European DNA (haplogroup R1a), had tattoos, and used a now extinct Indo-European language.

They eventually were absorbed into the Asian population living in the surrounding area that they inhabited and disappeared as a distinct culture.
 
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In another unusual piece of history, the Jews also migrated to China. There are records that a synagogue was built as early as 1163.
There are a number of books researching "the Jews of Kaifeng". They gradually assimilated and dissappeared. It makes one wonder if they could have introduced their genes for intelligence into the Chinese merchant class, which would explain a great deal since there are large Chinese communities in other southeast asian countries, and the Chinese there are often resented for their success by the native ethnic majority groups.
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United Malays National Organisation (UMNO), was founded to protect the interests of Malays and other indigenous peoples, who make up about two-thirds of the population, against those, mainly Chinese and Indian, who arrived under British rule in the 19th and 20th centuries. At independence these people were given citizenship, but in exchange Malays were granted special privileges to protect their political power and assure a larger share of the country's wealth. These days, many argue that all the quotas and affirmative-action programmes to help the Malays are now not only obsolete, but counter-productive. Maintaining quotas for Malays in some universities, for instance, drives the brightest ethnic Chinese abroad.
There have historically been, and still continue to be, occasional riots in Malaysia and Indonesia, fueled by ethnic resentment against the Chinese minorities, since all the wealth has a mysterious way of concentrating into their hands. (Remind you of anyone else?)
 
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It's a shame the Swedes don't share the same sense of cultural imperiousness and racial homogeneity that the Japs are noted for.
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The Jap word for "magic" is "majutsu" (thanks, James Clavell).
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No, I don't see any evidence for that.

There are random similarities among most languages in the world. Christian Identist idiots use the same method to claim Germanic is descended from Hebrew!
 
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No, I don't see any evidence for that.

There are random similarities among most languages in the world. Christian Identist idiots use the same method to claim Germanic is descended from Hebrew!
Hey don't compare the Japanese to the Jews. Japanese are way better than that jewish scum and I'd personally have no problem if the Japanese were releated to Germans genetically.
 
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Hey don't compare the Japanese to the Jews. Japanese are way better than that jewish scum and I'd personally have no problem if the Japanese were releated to Germans genetically.
I agree with you, but it was just an example to show that a few small coincidental simmiliarities between two otherwise unrelated languages does not mean very much.
 
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I agree with you, but it was just an example to show that a few small coincidental simmiliarities between two otherwise unrelated languages does not mean very much.
Yes, it could well just be a complete coincidence (the so-called Texas sharpshooter fallacy). As far as I am aware, I am the first one to have noticed it. One likely reason for this is simply that not many languists have studied both Japanese and Swedish. (the few who have likely studied many other languages as well, and so likely never bothered to specifically compare these two)

Of course, the germanic languages are not related to Russian at all (besides the fact that they are both in the indo-european branch), and neither is Japanese. The simple explanation for this is that the slavic peoples migrated northeastward into the modern day area of russia later in time. Communism wiped out most of the language remnants of the native people in the russian north. It might be interesting for languistic scholars to try to compare some of the last remaining endangered northern russian languages in the uralic family to swedish and japanese, to see if there might be some unique similarities that could imply a "missing link".


Let me give an example...

In modern swedish, we now use the word brjade (meaning "began") and anvnd (meaning "use"). But in old swedish, such as that found in the swedish bible, the words begynte (began) and bruk (use). Most educated swedes still know what begynte and bruk mean, they are just very old words that no one used anymore. Much like the old words "thou", "thee", and "beget" in the english King James bible.

However, the Norwegian language still uses the word "begynte" in everday use. The similarity between "begynte" and "began" is not a coincidence, as both these swedish and english words have a common germanic origin. Similarly, in the Danish language, "brug" means use, and this is the same word as bruk. The only difference is between the swedish and danish pronunciation, and thus the slight letter difference.

So if we look back at the older form of a language, one can often find more similarities to other related languages. A word in one language may have fallen out of general use, while that same word (or a closely related form of it) may still be commonly used in another language.
 
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The Jap word for "magic" is "majutsu" (thanks, James Clavell).
The better part of half their vocabulary by now consists of loan-words from european languages, like that one.
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The better part of half their vocabulary by now consists of loan-words from european languages, like that one.
I don't know if that's a "loan word" or not: it comes from Clavell's novel Shogun, set in the early 1600s. I guess it all depends on how scrupulous he was in his authenticity.
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Let's ask mael if he knows.
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The better part of half their vocabulary by now consists of loan-words from european languages, like that one.
It is relatively easy to determine whether a japanese word was recently borrowed from another language. Written japanese uses katakana script for words of foreign origin. There are also a few scientific terminologies, but this would be a more complicated discussion.

In Swedish it is also usually relatively easy to determine whether a word has been borrowed from french or swedish, based on the grammatical endings (or lack of) they take.

Both Japanese and Swedish have, in recent decades, borrowed many words from American english.

Obviously I am not discussing these more recent borrowed words.

Another interesting thing to mention is that the japanese word 名前 (pronounced "namae") means "name" in english. However, despite the similarity, this is not a borrowed word. It is written in kanji script, like all other native japanese words and old borrowed chinese prefixes. The similarity to the english word is likely just a coincidence.

For example if I wanted to write in japanese, My name is Anders,

私の名前はアンダース

"Anders" (アンダース) is written in katakana script, so we know it is a foreign name or word.
 
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Those aren't the kind of words that stayed the same in all the Aryan languages.
I saw a list the other day, they were words like father, cow, water, maybe thunder.

Anyway, Japan had the Ainu who really were whites living there first and then the Asians moved in. (The photos we see of Ainu today are mongrels. I have the impression the early photos of the pure white Ainu are suppressed. They apparently were Nordics.)
 
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Those aren't the kind of words that stayed the same in all the Aryan languages.
I saw a list the other day, they were words like father, cow, water, maybe thunder.

Anyway, Japan had the Ainu who really were whites living there first and then the Asians moved in. (The photos we see of Ainu today are mongrels. I have the impression the early photos of the pure white Ainu are suppressed. They apparently were Nordics.)
The Ainu issue in Japan is similar of the Whites on India, on India the higher casts still being Aryan/White, because they didn't mix with people of lower casts since a long time ago. The Ainus were caucasians nearly to Siberian people coming to Japan by the "Ice bridges" formed by the last Glacial era in Japan when Hokkaido was connected to the Asia.



Anders, the kanji "私" is only used by women(not exclusively), you should use "俺の名前はアンダースです" instead, and don't forget to use desu/です at the end of the phrase.
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Well I don't know much about the migration of the first humans way back when but I'll say one thing for this thread it is thought pervoking indeed.
 
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The better part of half their vocabulary by now consists of loan-words from european languages, like that one.
Hmmm ... not really - and they use the loan-words wrongly in nearly every case. Sometimes they'd be using some English loan-word and I won't realize it and wonder what (Japanese) word they are using - until I start trying to figure out the meaning of the sentence by weighing-in the 'key' words. On giving up that line of enquiry I'll try the next step which is knowing the Japanese just use English words because they think it's trendy, and that's where the answer lies.

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"Please buy some milk." - Gyunuwo GET shitekudasai.

"Excuse me, please" (This is of course English). The savvy Nip' may say:- "Hey you!"

But it's true that there are lots of English words being (mis) used here.

I don't know if it's been said, but the Japanese are basically a hybrid race. They're a mixture of Malay/Philippino & Ainu. The Ainu were the dominant people on these isles for tens of thousands of years going back to the 'Jomon' era. The Ainu controlled mostly the Northern parts, and are believed to have originated from Siberia - so they are a 'White' race.

The Asians launched countless attacks against the Ainu, but they didn't make much progress where the Ainu wanted to remain.

Way down South in Japan, the cultures were quite separate from the Ainu. Okinawa was its own kingdom, and so was Amami (where I dwell).

Amami sits in-between Okinawa and the mainland, so Amami got clobbered all the time for it's resources - which was (and is) sugar cane. (But this isn't important in the grand scheme of things Japanese).

So history has recorded, the cunning Asians who were continually trying to conquer the Ainu decided to hold a meeting of all the top brass on both sides. The Ainu accepted and were poisoned en-masse. After that, the Ainu were leaderless and that was their downfall.

But the clever Asians kept what they considered were the best examples of Ainu and used them to teach various things and of course to breed with, and that's how the Japanese came about.

There's a gradual demographic shift from Asian features to much whiter folk as you go North - the Ainu held out to the bitter end as they were slowly pushed up the islands.

The remnants of the Ainu are a pretty pitiful lot. I've seen a few events done by those Ainu such as their music and their art - and it's er - not very good. (I expect it used to be a thousand years ago or so).

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Years ago when I was learning the elites' plan for the globe, I noticed Japan was not lobbed-in with the rest of Asia. So those wot know seem to suggest they are aware the Japanese and the other Asians are not the same. I've also come to this conclusion independently. Since history begins here it's a case of the natives in what is now Japan doing business with the rest of Asia - mostly China, or other Asians (mostly Chinese) battling Japan. Japan has always won. Funny really because the Royal family is (according to my own reckonings) actually Korean. No one much knows about that though, and they won't want to believe it anyway.

For at least a thousand years Japan dominated pretty much all of Asia. Japan whipped them in battles, but the bright side for them is that the occupying Japanese began things like 'education' and technology. Apart from Asian enclaves occupied by European types, Asians were living in veritable mud huts and were very simple. So you can see the Japanese were different. They are still different. They are half Caucasian.

Japan was the only Asian nation that wasn't ruled by Mr Khan. Judging by the default simpleness of most Asians, Mr Khan's dna not arriving in Japan was most fortunate.

As for me, I can't take a bar of just about all Asians, but the Japanese are OK - mostly.

All sorts of truths about various people's lineages are lurking in the words of special people such as A.H., and in myths. I think Hitler would have known how to select the right words when he said he thought the Japanese were the Aryans of Asia.

I have to be necessarily careful with my words, but I think I can safely say the jump from an Aryan to a typical Asian is far greater than the jump from Aryan to Japanese. As I said; they are half White anyway... or at least that is how I have come to see the matter.

Japan is the land of contradictions - imagine a kimono-clad geisha with parasol chatting on her cellphone - those kinds of things are normal. The Japanese have clearly tried to adopt Western ways and still keep their Japanese culture. I think they have had at least partial success there. Japan's like the West (England) as I remember it decades ago in terms of its refreshing lack of PC and other Marxist ploys.

Of course the media is controlled by the Jews, but I think the language makes it possible to leak more info out than would be the case if the media used English - it takes a bit longer to 'vet' the news here. But sure enough the final version of any event is the same as the bs the West gets shoved in its face. I recall a spate where the media tried to get homosexuality accepted by having articles with (allegedly) openly homo teachers (allegedly) broadcasting their perversions whilst introducing themselves to a new class - but it didn't make an impression. They tried Feminism as well, but that was also soundly rejected.

Jpn's going down the shitter as well, of course, but traditional values - which are strikingly similar to values I adopted as a boy in England are still holding - fortunately. Morals and traditional values are hanging on, but as you can guess, these things are under constant attack overtly and covertly, and more and more are getting sucked-in.

(Don't I drone on)!

Heaps of Nationalists here. They are those scary folk who drive around in converted buses painted in military drab, wire mesh on the windows and very powerful sound systems rigged on the roof with a kind of podium with a mic. I'm what those people are supposed to hate, but I can't help liking them. I support them sticking up for their own country. I don't agree with all they do, but I think their presence acts as some sort of check to the jew-controlled mobsters who run the country.

I like the wartime Japanese songs they blare out at 1,000W. They are apt to (for example) drive the bus directly in front of some scheduled speech by a mainstream politician, then they completely drown out the hapless Jew whore and educate those listening what a scumbag he really is - with plenty of examples - until the riot police chase them away - then they come round the block again and do the same thing. (Ha ha).

I think the Japanese are mostly OK, but I keep a very low profile and I like keeping may own ways in places I am responsible for.

The Japanese call White foreigners 'gaijin.' Actually this is supposed to be insulting according to the PC police (oy vei). I occasionally overhear myself being seen as a 'real foreigner.' This is no insult.

Chinese, Vietnamese, Philippinos etc are called Chinese, Vietnamese and Phillipino - that's insulting especially those Koreans - Koreans have since decades ago infiltrated the scene here, but nobody seems to like them as a race. Strange because the Japanese have conquered the Koreans more times than anyone can remember, so a lot of their dna is already Japanese, and their politics, education system and tech scene was virtually dictated to them by the Japanese.

Umm........... !
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"White pig go home."

It's not surprising this is heard. Maybe that particular White was a pig?

I don't get any trouble with Japanese, but then again, I don't go looking for it, either.

I've been at the brunt of maybe half a dozen slurs such as once a high schooler made a point of spitting loudly for my benefit as I was walking nearby. He was with his friends, and he only spat on the tarmac- not at me, but it was a message - I remember it because of its rarity.

Blacks get their side of the street to themselves in my part of Japan.

Middle-Easterners get rounded up once they get too uppity, and other Asians - the wiser ones - live, act and speak as the Japanese do.

I remember a conversation I once had with an extreme right-winger in the Japanese Nationalist party. He introduced himself as the adjudicator of their website. Beautiful English - flawless! Very bright as well! His view on race mixing was along the lines of moderation. I think his view on race-mixing was how the Asian conquerors looked at those Ainu - not that I'm saying my own personal dna is a gift from the gods, but suggesting it is less unpalatable than every other 'race.'

I live on a small island these days and I don't get to see those Nationalists much, but they are sometimes here for a campaign. They certainly liven up the place and keep the local police busy. I've spoken to a few after they've done their day's shouting through the mic, and the ones I've met are coherent and even polite after their work... not to say they are all like that.
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The Ainu issue in Japan is similar of the Whites on India, on India the higher casts still being Aryan/White, because they didn't mix with people of lower casts since a long time ago. The Ainus were caucasians nearly to Siberian people coming to Japan by the "Ice bridges" formed by the last Glacial era in Japan when Hokkaido was connected to the Asia.



Anders, the kanji "私" is only used by women(not exclusively), you should use "俺の名前はアンダースです" instead, and don't forget to use desu/です at the end of the phrase.
The kanji means "I." It sounds like 'watashi.' The kanji has several other correct interpretations.

I'm not trying to belittle your claim that 'watashi' is used by women, as 'watashi' is used in spoken Japanese by women far more than men use it. Men would use personal pronouns such as 'boku,' but actually this is quite childish and casual - but perfectly acceptable and normal.

A man would correctly refer to himself in the personal pronoun using the same kanji as women do, but the reading is slightly different. Men would read "watashi" as "watakushi." But then again, women can and do also refer to themselves (correctly) as 'watakushi.' "Watakushi" is rather formal. It is OK to use 'watashi/watakushi' by men for official purposes, but to use it in casual conversation is seen as somewhat feminine.

In written Japanese, the kanji for "watashi" is the same for men and women.

* I use watashi quite unashamedly and a number of people have commented that my usage is correct, but it shows I learnt Japanese from women and not at some school.
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