Archeological Investigations of Treblinka

[Greg Gerdes]

Semensuckingsam:

"The murderers disposed of their victims through cremation."


Really? Let's look at the definition of "disposed."


Main Entry: 1dis•pose
Pronunciation: \di-ˈspōz\
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): dis•posed; dis•pos•ing
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French desposer, from Latin disponere to arrange (perfect indicative disposui), from dis- + ponere to put — more at position
Date: 14th century
transitive verb
1: to give a tendency to : incline <faulty diet disposes one to sickness>
2 a: to put in place : set in readiness : arrange <disposing troops for withdrawal> bobsolete : regulate c: bestow
intransitive verb
1: to settle a matter finally
2obsolete : to come to terms
synonyms see incline
— dis•pos•er noun
— dispose of
1: to place, distribute, or arrange especially in an orderly way
2 a: to transfer to the control of another <disposing of personal property to a total stranger> b (1): to get rid of <how to dispose of toxic waste> (2): to deal with conclusively <disposed of the matter efficiently>

(Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary. 2008.)


Are you sure that you meant "disposed" stupid?

What do you really mean? That the Germans "obliterated" all evidence of the murder of 1.120 jews at Sobibor and Treblinka?

LOL!!!

Are you saying that you believe in the "magically disappearing jew theory?"

Are you saying that the Germans committed the perfect crime while murdering 6 million jews?

O slurpin, you are one retarded jew.

Thank you.

BTW, have I ever told you that you're priceless?

[Greg Gerdes]

Come on now slurpin, lets see you answer the question again -but this time, try to do it intelligently.

Wayne:

"I've been asking you or Roberto to produce a gassed body for more than a year. Just one."


Slurpin:

"How many times do you need the same answer Wayne?

There are none, not one... I even answer questions when asked."


OK slurpin, WHY?

Why are there none, not one?

[Greg Gerdes]

You know, for a while there I thought that I was going to miss slapping the shit out of the retarded rabbi on a daily basis.

But with this semensuckingsam idiot, it's been a rather seamless transition.

Here's a classic already -

Slurpin:

"Tell me, is a corpse required for a murder conviction?"


LOL!!! Is that supposed to be your argument for the fact that, to date, no one has yet to locate / prove the existence of just one single "huge mass grave" at Sobibor or Treblinka that contains just one:

1 - Complete human body in a "wax fat transformation."

2 - Complete human skeleton.

3 - Complete human skull

4 - Complete human bone.

5 - Human bone fragment.

6 - Human tooth.

7 - Ounce of human ash.

8 - Spent bullet.

9 - Shell casing.


Can you show us one semensucker?

Can you try?

What are you afraid of?

Not even one?

Not that hard.

All you need is a retarded blind man with a toy plastic shovel.


BTW stupid - For a murder conviction of just one person, or six million?

Bwaaaahahahahah!!!

[Slamin2]

Is a corpse required for a murder conviction?

Its a yes or no question giggles.

[Greg Gerdes]

Slurpin:

"Now, if you choose to respond, try to do it in one post."


What's wrong stupid, aren't you a multitasker?

Why should I limit myself to making you look like the retard that you are to just one time per night?

I haven't had this much fun since I ran the retarded rabbi of this forum.


Slurpin:

"I even answer questions when asked."


Then why are you so afraid to answer these questions slurpin?:


Do you believe that 1.120 million jews can vanish from the face of the earth without leaving a trace?


Do you believe in the "magically disappearing jew theory?"


Just what part of physically impossible do you not understand?


Why do the jews refuse to do their own GPR of Treblinka?

Come on now sam, answer the questions.

What are you afraid of?

[Greg Gerdes]

Slurpin:

"Is a corpse required for a murder conviction? Its a yes or no question."


You have a logjam of questions to answer first semensucker.


1598, 1599, 1601, 1602, 1603, 1605 and this one.


Now chop chop faggot.


Make sure you don't forget this one:


Do you believe in the "magically disappearing jew theory?"

BTW stupid, have you ever hear this:

I don’t see an elephant in my basement. If there were an elephant in my basement, I would certainly see it. Therefore, there is no elephant in my basement.

?????

Or this?

If it couldn’t have happened - as alleged, then it didn’t happen - as alleged.

(Just what part of physically impossible do you not understand stupid?)

[MikeTodd]

Originally Posted by Slamin2

Intelligent retort there giggles.

Tell me, is a corpse required for a murder conviction?

Not necessarily, Rabbi.
There have been EXCEPTIONS, as you well know, but you would be stunned and amazed at the amount of credibility that can accrue to the prosecutions case when they actually have a body.
It kind of says, yes, indeed, there was a murder victim!



BTW, Rabbi,:[]
You want to know what makes me happy?
My sig pic makes me happy.
It makes me happy to know that of all the White men on the scene that day when the twisted kike Frank met with Aryan Justice at the end of a noose not a single goddam one of them ever spent a day in jail! Lol!
That makes me happy!

[Greg Gerdes]

Come on now faggot, you're falling behind.


Semensuckingsam:

"The murderers disposed of their victims through cremation."


Really? Let's look at the definition of "disposed."


Main Entry: 1dis•pose
Pronunciation: \di-ˈspōz\
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): dis•posed; dis•pos•ing
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French desposer, from Latin disponere to arrange (perfect indicative disposui), from dis- + ponere to put — more at position
Date: 14th century
transitive verb
1: to give a tendency to : incline <faulty diet disposes one to sickness>
2 a: to put in place : set in readiness : arrange <disposing troops for withdrawal> bobsolete : regulate c: bestow
intransitive verb
1: to settle a matter finally
2obsolete : to come to terms
synonyms see incline
— dis•pos•er noun
— dispose of
1: to place, distribute, or arrange especially in an orderly way
2 a: to transfer to the control of another <disposing of personal property to a total stranger> b (1): to get rid of <how to dispose of toxic waste> (2): to deal with conclusively <disposed of the matter efficiently>

(Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary. 2008.)


Are you sure that you meant "disposed" stupid?

What do you really mean? That the Germans "obliterated" all evidence of the murder of 1.120 jews at Sobibor and Treblinka?

LOL!!!

Are you saying that you believe in the "magically disappearing jew theory?"

Are you saying that the Germans committed the perfect crime while murdering 6 million jews?

Oh slurpin, you are one retarded jew.

Thank you.

BTW, have I ever told you that you're priceless?

[Slamin2]

Originally Posted by MikeTodd

Not necessarily, Rabbi.
There have been EXCEPTIONS, as you well know, but you would be stunned and amazed at the amount of credibility that can accrue to the prosecutions case when they actually have a body.

And Todd answers what Giggles could not - congrats.

[Greg Gerdes]

Slurpin:

"So there. Your honor, I rest my case - 1.120 million jews were murdered at Sobibor and Treblinka, because sometimes, a corpse isn't required for a murder conviction."

Oh you're simply brilliant semensucker!

Bravo!!!

How can anyone come up with a rebuttal to that kind of genius?

But it still begs the question:

Why has no one yet to locate / prove the existence of just one single "huge mass grave" at Sobibor or Treblinka that contains just one:

1 - Complete human body in a "wax fat transformation."

2 - Complete human skeleton.

3 - Complete human skull

4 - Complete human bone.

5 - Human bone fragment.

6 - Human tooth.

7 - Ounce of human ash.

8 - Spent bullet.

9 - Shell casing.

????

Can you show us one semensucker?

Can you try?

What are you afraid of?

Not even one?

Not that hard.

All you need is a retarded blind man with a toy plastic shovel.

Just one?

[Greg Gerdes]

Slurpin:

"I even answer questions when asked."


Lying P.O.S.


You have a logjam of questions you refuse to answer semensucker.


1598, 1599, 1601, 1602, 1603, 1605, 1606, 1608, & 1610.


Now chop chop faggot, you're falling behind.

[Greg Gerdes]

Is locating a "huge mass grave" required to prove the existence of a "huge mass grave?"

There are supposed to be 14 of them combined at Sobibor and Treblinka.

Why hasn't anyone been able to locate just one of these alleged "huge mass graves?"

[MarkP]

Originally Posted by EireannGoddess

I come from a well off family of Traitors to Adolf Hitler and National Socialism Dullard. So what. Are you jealous? Why? jews are not the only ones that have money.

....and now I'm just a Catholic Cunt (literally).

Who after WW2, swapped NationalSocalism for the Pope and the Catholic Church, because it pays better.

[Roberto Muehlenkamp]

Posts nos. 1538, 1539 and 1540:

As I expected, my announcement that I would henceforth ignore Gerdes on account of the cowardice and mendacity he displayed by failing to meet our appointment at Sobibor after all his bigmouthed bragging (see my posts # 1525 under http://206.41.117.128/showpost.php?p...postcount=1525 and # 1536 under http://206.41.117.128/showpost.php?p...postcount=1536 ) launched the poor creature into a particularly rabid fit of hysteria.

They say a woman can take everything from a man except indifference ...

Besides further repetitions of imbecilic "let’s see this and that" – demands and no less imbecilic "not one" and "what are they waiting for" rhetoric, we unsurprisingly have the fellow’s claim that I ran away from him – a claim that, under the circumstances, requires about as much wishful thinking as the "Black Knight"’s howling that King Arthur was running away from him after having chopped off both his arms and legs, in the film Monty Python and the Holy Grail. The following quotes are from Scene 4 of that film, available under http://www.mwscomp.com/movies/grail/grail-04.htm ; emphases have been added where I think Gerdes’ lame victory dance mirrors the situation and attitude of the "Black Knight":

ARTHUR and BLACK KNIGHT:
Aaah!, hiyaah!, etc.
[ARTHUR chops the BLACK KNIGHT's left arm off]
ARTHUR:
Now stand aside, worthy adversary.
BLACK KNIGHT:
'Tis but a scratch.
ARTHUR:
A scratch? Your arm's off!
BLACK KNIGHT:
No, it isn't.
ARTHUR:
Well, what's that, then?
BLACK KNIGHT:
I've had worse.
ARTHUR:
You liar!
BLACK KNIGHT:
Come on, you pansy!
[clang]
Huyah!
[clang]
Hiyaah!
[clang]
Aaaaaaaah!
[ARTHUR chops the BLACK KNIGHT's right arm off]
ARTHUR:
Victory is mine!
[kneeling]
We thank Thee Lord, that in Thy mer--
BLACK KNIGHT:
Hah!
[kick]
Come on, then.
ARTHUR:
What?
BLACK KNIGHT:
Have at you!
[kick]
ARTHUR:
Eh. You are indeed brave, Sir Knight, but the fight is mine.
BLACK KNIGHT:
Oh, had enough, eh?
ARTHUR:
Look, you stupid bastard. You've got no arms left.
BLACK KNIGHT:
Yes, I have.
ARTHUR:
Look!
BLACK KNIGHT:
Just a flesh wound.
[kick]
ARTHUR:
Look, stop that.
BLACK KNIGHT:
Chicken!
[kick]
Chickennn!
ARTHUR:
Look, I'll have your leg.
[kick]
Right!
[whop]
[ARTHUR chops the BLACK KNIGHT's right leg off]
BLACK KNIGHT:
Right. I'll do you for that!
ARTHUR:
You'll what?
BLACK KNIGHT:
Come here!
ARTHUR:
What are you going to do, bleed on me?
BLACK KNIGHT:
I'm invincible!
ARTHUR:
You're a looney.
BLACK KNIGHT:
The Black Knight always triumphs! Have at you! Come on, then.
[whop]
[ARTHUR chops the BLACK KNIGHT's last leg off]
BLACK KNIGHT:
Oh? All right, we'll call it a draw.
ARTHUR:
Come, Patsy.
BLACK KNIGHT:
Oh. Oh, I see. Running away, eh? You yellow bastards! Come back here and take what's coming to you. I'll bite your legs off!

I consider the above a proper description of Gerdes, who has disgraced himself so utterly and made such a fool of himself that his claim of my running away from him is about as far-fetched as the armless and legless "Black Knight"'s claiming that King Arthur is running away from him.

There is a difference between Gerdes and the "Black Knight", of course: while the latter is a hopeless loony but not a coward, Gerdes is both a hopeless loony and a whimpering coward. The epitome of his cowardice, which he abundantly displayed throughout our discussion by ignoring most elements of evidence I showed him, rarely if ever addressing my arguments and running about from just about all of my questions, besides bitching about me on a forum to which he knows I have no access and failing to link the CODOH folks to the present thread no matter how often I asked him to do so, was his having failed, after all his bigmouthed bragging laden with invective and threats, to honor our appointment at Sobibor on 15.10.2008. That behavior, as I told Gerdes in post # 1536, made him a slimy little worm so low that I don’t consider him worth talking to anymore – and I wouldn’t be surprised if our reasonable readers marveled at my patience and wondered why it took me so long to reach this decision, and why Gerdes had to go to such depths of cowardice and mendacity before I told him to fuck off. What is more, I nevertheless gave him the chance to continue our conversation under certain conditions, in the last two paragraphs of my post # 1536:

That is, unless you expressly undertake to henceforth answer my questions and address my arguments, like I have addressed what piss-poor "arguments" you have presented (they boil down to repetitive and unimaginative variations of your "not one this-and-that" rhetoric) and answered your irrelevant to idiotic questions to the best of my knowledge.

I look forward to a statement in the above sense until same time tomorrow, Mr. Gerdes. The absence of such statement will be construed as your also considering our conversation finished.

Of course stinking liar and coward Gerdes wouldn’t be stinking liar and coward Gerdes if he had not ignored these last two paragraphs.

He also wouldn’t be stinking liar and coward Gerdes if he didn’t now call in question my having been at Sobibor and having taken the photographs I stated to have taken. In Gerdes’ Simian language, this reads as follows:

Originally Posted by Gerdes

I said that any photos that the faggot posts will not prove that she ever set foot in Sobibor.

Let's see proof that you were actually in Sobibor faggot.

Let's see proof that those photos were taken in Sobibor.

Let's see EXACTLY where in Sobibor they were taken, IF they were taken in Sobibor.

Let's see proof that those bones are human.

All photos I took at Sobibor on 14, 15 and 16 October 2008, plus a number of stills from video films I made there, can now be reached on the thread "My Trip to Sobibor" of the RODOH forum, the link to which is http://rodohforum.yuku.com/topic/6369.

Some of these photos/film stills show me at Sobibor waiting for Gerdes to show up:





I spent two hours there waiting for a "White" specimen like this:



(someone here seems to have a hunch that the fellow on the above picture is Gerdes, and it wouldn’t surprise me at all if he had this aspect), but none showed up. The only people I saw, apart from some passers-by, were Polish workers loading wood onto open railway cars on the Sobibor branch line, whose work I filmed close up until the supervisor told me I was not allowed to film:













and thereafter from my rented car



while listening to Polish radio:



Other photos show the "ash mountain" monument and surrounding area, for instance these here:

















Still others show bone fragments found in various parts of that area, for instance the following:























The location of these findings become apparent from the photo series or films that they belong to, sometimes even from the photographs showing the fragments themselves. I have endeavored to photograph the bone fragments closely enough for anyone to see what they are. As I said in post # 1536, I would have liked Gerdes to be there to hear and record his lame babbling about what other than bone fragments these objects are supposed to be, but the whimpering coward didn’t show up.

I also photographed the texture of the soil at Sobibor, for instance in this bared part of one of the greener areas:





As to "proof that these bones are human", I’d say that results from the context of all evidence to what happened at Sobibor, even where bones fragments don’t show obvious signs of having been exposed to fire like some of them do. Gerdes should get used to the idea that the context of all known documentary, eyewitness and physical evidence, including but not limited to what is mentioned in my post # 777 under http://206.41.117.128/showpost.php?p...&postcount=777 , shows Sobibor to have been an extermination camp for human beings and not a chicken farm or something like that. This means that, bar evidence to the contrary, any bone fragment found there can be safely considered a human bone fragment from one of the camp’s victims.

The rest of Gerdes’ hysterical antics is either repetition of beaten old rhetoric that has been slapped around his ears many times, or crap he has also dished up on CODOH, where he again went whining about me like the characterless coward he has amply shown himself to be. I shall therefore address it in my next post in connection with Gerdes’ mirror messages on CODOH.

[Roberto Muehlenkamp]

Gerdes still hasn’t got over the day he shot himself in his own foot by providing a satellite photograph showing four distinctly greener areas in a barren forest clearing that happen to coincide with mass grave areas identified by Prof. Andrzej Kola in 2001 and plotted on several maps by this archaeologist. His latest attempt to cope with this blunder is found in Gerdes’ post of Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:35 am under http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=5100&start=15 :

HUGE MASS GRAVE LOCATED AT TREBLINKA!!!

According to the dull one itself, all the "proof" needed to claim that there really are "huge mass graves" at Sobibor and/or Treblinka is the existence of a "green area" in the alleged "mass graves" areas of the alleged "pure extermination centers."

Well, I'm about to help out the dolt and show him the EXACT location of at least one of Treblinka's "huge mass graves."

You can see the "huge mass grave" / "lush green area" yourself right here:

http://www.deathcamps.org/treblinka/pic/bmap13.jpg

See it? See the "lush green area" on the lower right between the two lower monuments?

Now compare that "lush green area" with the "lush green areas" of Sobibor:

http://maps.pomocnik.com/satellite-maps/?map=4194

See? The "lush green areas" of Treblinka are just as "lush" and just as green as the "lush green areas" of Sobibor.

That folks is, according to the dullest of the dull, "proof" of the existence of at least one "huge mass grave" of Treblinka. (What else could it be if not "proof" that there are the remains of tens of thousands of jews under the "lush green area?" What other possible explanation could there be for the "lush green vegetation" in that spot?)

And check out the location - It sure looks to me like that "lush green area" / "huge mass grave" must be the Lazarette.

Just think, with the tens of thousands of bullets and shell casings in that pit along with the remains of the tens of thousands of jews, one could prove it's the Lazarette pit with a cheap metal detector.

So what is the dull one waiting for?

How many bones do I have to throw him?

Maybe $100,000.00 isn't enough of an incentive for him?????

What we have here, idiotic rhetorical babbling aside, is a flagrant misrepresentation of my arguments. As stinking liar Gerdes well knows, I have never claimed that the greener appearance of the greener areas visible on the Sobibor satellite photograph is by itself proof that these are mass grave areas. The main reason why these green areas are interesting is that, apart from

a) their being located in the part of Sobibor extermination camp where all eyewitness evidence shows the mass killing and body disposal to have taken place and the mass graves to have been, and

b) the presence of human remains below ground and the intensive digging-up of the soil in these areas being plausible explanations for their greener appearance, whereas I haven’t yet seen an alternative explanation conforming with "Revisionist" faith,

is that they coincide with mass grave areas identified and plotted on maps by Prof. Andrzej Kola as a result of archaeological investigations conducted in 2001.

As one of these maps appeared in an article written by Prof. Kola in a bulletin of the Polish government entity in charge of the memorials, I guess it’s OK to show this map, unlike two other maps in my possession which are not in the public domain. Here it is:



Compare with my annotated enlargement of the satellite photograph kindly provided by Gerdes:



The areas I numbered "3" and "4" match the huge inverted "L" east of the monument. The "base" of the "L" is my number "4". The part of that "base" covered by the monument is not visible on the satellite photo, of course.

The area I numbered "2" is the mass grave east of the path leading to the monument and partially covered by that path.

The area I numbered "1" is the mass grave lying southwest of the monument and west of the path.

Now, if Gerdes can get us an archaeologist’s map showing the mass graves at Treblinka in the greener areas of that camp’s soil he makes a fuss about, we may be able to draw conclusions about the location of Treblinka mass grave areas not covered by the memorial there. Drawing such conclusions based on the greener coloration of certain areas alone, on the other hand, is too speculative for my taste.

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In his CODOH post of Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:38 under http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=5101 , Gerdes provides a classical example of the particular form of lying known as "quote mining": he quotes only the parts of my statement that fit his argument and leaves out the ones that don’t:

Originally Posted by Gerdes

BTW, it looks like Muehlenkamp has tucked tail and ran away from me yet again. (First it was from topix, now VNN.) Here is its latest from VNN:

"I don´t intend to spend any time on you anymore... you´ll be on ignore from now on. For news on what´s happening at Sobibor you are referred to the RODOH forum (where... you will soon find... photos from my trip to Sobibor) and the HC blog... (where I shall write an article about this trip as soon as I´m back from Germany, where I am writing from now)."

What a coward!

He simply couldn't handle a debate on a real, unfettered and uncensored forum, so he's running back into the arms of nickterry.

It seems that having to defend his absurdities by actually proving / producing physical evidence to support hs claims was too much for him to handle.

But then again, isn't that the way it is for all holocaustians?

Here’s what I wrote in post # 1536 under http://206.41.117.128/showpost.php?p...postcount=1536, with emphases added in the parts that Gerdes did not leave out when quoting me:

If you were prepared to respond to questions and attend demands yourself, you might be entitled to ask questions and make demands yourself. But as you dodge all questions you are asked and ignore all demands that are made on you, I don´t see on what basis you can consider yourself entitled to throw around questions and demands yourself.

That applies all the more as you´re a liar whose lies I ceased to care counting long ago, a whimpering coward and an obvious hoaxer, as last and most prominently shown by your having failed, after all your bigmouthed bragging laden with invective and threats, to honor our appointment at Sobibor on 15.10.2008.

There are many questions I would have liked to ask you on site, in front of a running camera. Questions such as what, if not a bone fragment, this object:

or this one:

is supposed to be.

But you weaseled out under the lame pretext that you were afraid of being arrested like Toben, moreover after heavy-handedly challenging German authorities to give you the Toben treatment, see my post no. 1525 under http://206.41.117.128/showpost.php?p...postcount=1525 .

So whoever still had a sliver of doubt that your NAFCASH challenge is a hoax, and you don´t intend to pay a cent to anybody no matter what evidence is shown to you, can be in doubt no longer after this instructively characterless behavior of yours.

All the above, Mr. Gerdes, makes you a slimy little worm so low that I don´t intend to spend any time on you anymore. You´ll get my invitation to witness the results of core drilling/excavation in mass graves in the Sobibor area, if such core drilling/excavation should take place, and of course I shall submit evidence resulting from such core drilling/excavation to SKEPTIC magazine and inform you thereof for the purpose of your fraudulent "challenge", but other than that you´ll be on ignore from now on. For news on what´s happening at Sobibor you are referred to the RODOH forum (where in the Reference section under http://rodohforum.yuku.com/forums/13 you will soon find a post with links to the above and many other photos from my trip to Sobibor) and the HC blog under http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/ (where I shall write an article about this trip as soon as I´m back from Germany, where I am writing from now).

That is, unless you expressly undertake to henceforth answer my questions and address my arguments, like I have addressed what piss-poor "arguments" you have presented (they boil down to repetitive and unimaginative variations of your "not one this-and-that" rhetoric) and answered your irrelevant to idiotic questions to the best of my knowledge.

I look forward to a statement in the above sense until same time tomorrow, Mr. Gerdes. The absence of such statement will be construed as your also considering our conversation finished.

Of course Gerdes didn’t give the CODOH clowns the link to my post or even to the present thread. They might read the whole of what I wrote and find that Gerdes is too obvious a quote-mining liar even for their taste, you see.

The photos in post # 1536 disappeared when I moved them to another directory in my Photobucket collection, by the way. They were two of the many bone fragment photos that can be found on my RODOH thread under http://rodohforum.yuku.com/topic/6369 .

As to Gerdes’ calling me a "coward", whoever wants to know who the actual coward is only has to read the quotes from Gerdes’ posts nos. 1503, 1512, 1514 and 1521 in my post # 1525 under http://206.41.117.128/showpost.php?p...postcount=1525 .

And the crap about my having run from Gerdes at Topix is another Gerdian lie, of course – or let’s be generous and call it another example of "Black Knight" style wishful thinking by someone whose life is obviously very poor in victories. As I commented under http://holocaustcontroversies.blogsp...th-update.html ,

Poor Gerdes seems to have damn few if any experiences of success in his miserable life to be seeking for one so badly.

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What’s interesting about the two CODOH posts commented above is that they show exactly where Gerdes is hurting.

He’s hurting about his shot in the foot in having pointed out a satellite photo that shows four of the mass graves identified by Prof. Kola at Sobibor.

He’s hurting about the cowardice that kept him from honoring our appointment at Sobibor on 15.10.2008, and about my having contemptuously put him on ignore on account of that characterless behavior.

The next CODOH message to be commented, Gerdes’ post of Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:29 pm under http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=5101 , addresses another of Gerdes’ pains: the blundering endeavor of his fellow "Revisionist" Richard Krege, who is sitting on a report about his GPR investigation at Treblinka because he – as I pointed out several times in this VNN discussion, for instance in my post # 194 under http://206.41.117.128/showpost.php?p...&postcount=194 – found exactly what he had hoped not to find, i.e. soil disturbances compatible with the presence of mass graves in the subsoil of Treblinka. Gerdes lamely tries to tackle this problem as follows:

Originally Posted by Gerdes

Here's another interesting tidbit from the mule's VNN post #382:

6. Are we going to see the report of Mr. Krege’s "detailed forensic examination", Mr. Gerdes? Yes or no? (I would love to see that report for Krege seems to have found exactly what he hoped not to find and claims not to have found, soil disturbances compatible with mass graves in the subsoil of Treblinka).

And my recent comment:

If Krege "seems to have found exactly what he hoped NOT to find," then surely Freund must have found exactly what he WAS hoping to find, right?

If Krege found "soil disturbances compatible with mass graves in the subsoil of Treblinka," then so should have Freund and his Kosher Krew at Sobibor, right?

Why have you so suddenly stopped asking for Krege's GPR results?

Why aren't you calling for the results of Freund's GPR examination? (Which reminds me, we're still waiting for you to round up O'Neils alleged hours of video he claims he took at Belzec. What are you waiting for?)

My comments:

1. If I haven’t recently repeated my question about Krege’s results (which are obviously disadvantageous to "Revisionist" articles of faith, as also suggested by the sources mentioned in my post # 194 including a renowned expert in GPR matters, otherwise "Revisionist" freaks would be parading them all over the Internet), that’s just because a) the conversation didn’t lead to that issue and b) I’m not in the Gerdian habit of repeating myself over and over again. Gerdes obviously hasn’t got himself a brain yet.

2. What became apparent from the video by Freund et al before it was withdrawn does indeed suggest that their GPR came upon soil disturbances compatible with the presence of mass graves in the subsoil of Sobibor, as I pointed out under http://holocaustcontroversies.blogsp...th-update.html .

3. Much as I would like to have the results of Freund’s GPR examination at my disposal, I don’t think they’ll give them to me just because I’m such a nice guy. Gerdes should definitely get himself a brain.

4. I don’t remember having invoked the results of Freund’s GPR examination or O’Neill’s video as a source, which means there’s no reason why I should call for either or be concerned with obtaining either. Gerdes, on the other hand, keeps parading Krege’s "detailed forensic examination" on his NAFCASH site under http://www.nafcash.com/ . As long as he does that, I’d say it’s fair to ask Gerdes when, if ever, the report of Mr. Krege’s "detailed forensic examination" that Gerdes brags about will be made available to the public.

5. As to what I’m waiting for, Gerdes is invited to re-read the last two paragraphs of my post # 1536 under http://206.41.117.128/showpost.php?p...postcount=1536 :

That is, unless you expressly undertake to henceforth answer my questions and address my arguments, like I have addressed what piss-poor "arguments" you have presented (they boil down to repetitive and unimaginative variations of your "not one this-and-that" rhetoric) and answered your irrelevant to idiotic questions to the best of my knowledge.

I look forward to a statement in the above sense until same time tomorrow, Mr. Gerdes. The absence of such statement will be construed as your also considering our conversation finished.

Bar an express undertaking to henceforth answer my questions and address my arguments, Gerdes remains on ignore, as announced in that same post. He can entertain himself boring Slanim with the same "let’s see this-and-that", "not one this-and-that" and "what are you waiting for" – baloney that I have been slapping around his ears since the beginning of our discussions – while cowardly dodging Slanim’s questions as he dodged so many questions of mine, of course.

Poor Gerdes is a lifetime loser trying to get even with the world. And a hopeless bore whose chief talent is to make people . Even the CODOH clowns seem to be getting tired of him.

[Greg Gerdes]

Hey, the faggot is back!

Ha ha ha ha ha ha! Nice shiny head you have there retardo!

(What - no dress? I thought you were going to dress up all pretty for me? Ha ha ha ha ha ha!)


Retardo:

"As to "proof that these bones are human", I’d say that results from the context of all evidence to what happened at Sobibor, even where bones fragments don’t show obvious signs of having been exposed to fire like some of them do. Gerdes should get used to the idea that the context shows Sobibor to have been an extermination camp for human beings and not a chicken farm or something like that. This means that, bar evidence to the contrary, any bone fragment found there can be safely considered a human bone fragment from one of the camp’s victims."


What's wrong faggot, never heard of the scientific method and/or forensic science before?


* What part of the word "proof" don't you understand? *


All that work, all that time, all that effort, and all the faggot can show us is what looks to be about 3 ounces of non-cremated, non-human bone.


(Reuters - 11/23/01) - Warsaw - Polish archaeologists excavating the Nazi death camp in Sobibor said they have found mass graves at the site. (According to official Polish accounts, 250,000 people were killed in Sobibor.) “We uncovered seven mass graves with an average depth of five meters. In them there were charred human remains and under them remains in a state of decay.” Archaeologist Andrzej Kola was quoted by the Polish PAP news agency telling a news conference. He said the largest grave measured 70 x 25 meters, the others 20 x 25 meters. Wladyslaw Bartoszewski, a former Polish foreign minister said - “It’s vital to gather evidence to refute the claim of those seeking to deny the Holocaust. The work will continue, we have to confirm scientifically that this camp existed.”


So retardo, we're still waiting for you to locate / prove the existence of just one single "huge mass grave" at Sobibor or Treblinka that contains just one:

1 - Complete human body in a "wax fat transformation."

2 - Complete human skeleton.

3 - Complete human skull

4 - Complete human bone.

5 - Human bone fragment.

6 - Human tooth.

7 - Ounce of human ash.

8 - Spent bullet.

9 - Shell casing.

?????

Can you try?

What are you afraid of?

Remember Kola's words:

"In them there were charred human remains and under them remains in a state of decay.”

Really? When are we going to see these remains in a state of decay?

When are we going to see proof that there is an iota of remains at Sobibor or Treblinka?

[Greg Gerdes]

"This summer [July, 2008], a team led by Richard Freund mapped the surface of the [Sobibor] camp using electromagnetics, magnetometry and ground-penetrating radar equipment... (Mapping the entire Sobibor concentration camp was done by University of South Florida geography professor Philip Reeder) 'The idea is to figure out scientifically where everything was'... Freund said, who has been using the geophysical technology for a decade and is one of a small number of archeologists throughout the world to take advantage of its precision and speed to map sub-surfaces... Calgary based WorleyParsons geophysicists Paul Bauman and Brad Hansen used... [GPR] radar to create cross-sectional images of the site and detect areas of soil disturbance... 'Now we can know exactly... what’s there or if there’s nothing there,' says Freund, 'So this technology is really a godsend for archeology.'

'The Sobibor project is unique,' says team historian Avi Patt, in its synthesis of archeology and history of the Holocaust. 'There are very few cases of a place where you can do this kind of archeology,' he says. 'A camp has been buried, concealed from sight, and tried to be hidden, and you have to do a kind of detective work to find out where it was. There are Holocaust deniers who say, ‘Survivors are making it up. There never was a camp there, who knows if there was an extermination center? These are fantastic, made-up stories. And that feeds right into what the Nazis were trying to do...' Part of my motivation is to say, 65 years later, ‘No, you’re not going to get away with hiding this from history.’”

*

No? Well then, let's see the "huge mass graves" that this technology has so easily found.

When are we going to see the results of this GPR investigation?

What are they waiting for? What are they trying to hide?


So were waiting for Sobibor reports and photos from

The building of the "huge mountain of human remains."

Shermer's "investigation."

Kola's "excavations."

Freund's GPR.

Gary Hochman's "full television documentary."

And of course, we're waiting for the retarded rabbi to lay claim to THE FINAL SOLUTION FORENSIC CHALLENGE.

And to show us just one single tooth.

What are all these people waiting for?

Oh, and I almost forgot, we're still waiting on the photos of the core samples that actually show any human remains, and we're still waiting on the results of the analysis of the core samples, IF it was done. (Why wouldn't it? - What are the jews afraid of?)

Which begs the questions:

1- Why won't the jews release all the photos taken of the core samples?

2 - Why won't the jews release the results of the analysis?

[Greg Gerdes]

So retardo, after all that, the question that still begs to be answered is:

Why does nafcash's $100,000.00 - THE FINAL SOLUTION FORENSIC CHALLENGE - reward go unclaimed?

http://www.nafcash.com/

NAFCASH presents - THE FINAL SOLUTION FORENSIC CHALLENGE

NAFCASH is offering a $100,000.00 reward for locating / proving the existence of - just one tenth of one percent - of the alleged teeth or bones allegedly buried at Sobibor or Treblinka.

All one has to do to become an applicant for THE FINAL SOLUTION FORENSIC CHALLENGE reward is to have said claims / results of ones locating / proving the existence of - just one tenth of one percent - of the alleged teeth or bones at Sobibor or Treblinka first published in “SKEPTIC” Magazine.

At both Sobibor and Treblinka, all cremated bone fragments and/or teeth located / proven to exist must come from inside the clearing surrounding and/or within / under the monuments. (Where all the alleged remains at each camp are allegedly buried.)


Sobibor - where the remains of 250,000 jews are allegedly buried here:

http://maps.pomocnik.com/satellite-maps/?map=4194

Just one tenth of one percent of the alleged mass murder at Sobibor = 1,000 pounds of cremated bone fragments or 8,000 teeth. The alleged bones / teeth located / proven to exist must come from inside the clearing surrounding and/or within / under the “huge mound of human remains” / monument.

What are you waiting for retardo?

What's wrong, 1/10th of 1% too hard for you?

How about one single pound?

How about one single bone fragment?

Just one retardo.

One.

[Greg Gerdes]

Now retardo, we're still waiting for you to answer the following:

Where did the soil came from for the "huge mountain of human remains?"

Let's see the pits that would have resulted from digging out so much soil.

Let's see the photos of the construction of the monument that show one single ounce of human remains.

Let's see the Freund GPR results that would show EXACTLY where those alleged pits where the alleged human reminas were dug out of are.

And of course we're still waiting for the retard to locate / prove the existence of just one single human tooth at Sobibor or Treblinka.


Remember what else the lying, cowardly dullard has said:

"I never claimed that the victims of Treblinka disappeared "without leaving a trace", on the contrary... I never claimed that all teeth were reduced to tooth meal, on the contrary... I provided two sources expressly mentioning teeth on the grounds of Treblinka... there’s no reason to assume that he was wrong about the above-mentioned teeth... Any particular reason why this should not be enough to conclude that teeth were lying around on the Treblinka site? My reasonable explanation for expecting teeth to have been among the human remains means they didn’t crush all of them, as I have pointed out over and over again, quite a few must have been overlooked. Duh!... A claim which I never made - that all teeth were crushed... Actually, as Gerdes well knows, I never claimed that the crushing of teeth at Treblinka led to the obliteration of all of these teeth. In the mass graves, according to Kola, "there were charred human remains and under them remains in a state of decay". These remains may well include teeth, lots of them."

Yeah, LOTS. As in millions and millions.

Yet the little faggot can't locate / prove the existence of so much as one single tooth or bone fragment at Sobibor or Treblinka.

NOT ONE!

[Greg Gerdes]

So let's recap shall we?

The retarded rabbi has yet to locate / prove the existence of one ounce of human remains at Sobibor and/or Treblinka.

Not an ounce.

In fact, not an iota.

1.120 million jews alleged murdered and buried in two very small, precisely known, locations, and the faggot can't locate a single grave, a single body, a single bone fragment or even so much as one single tooth.

What are you waiting for faggot?

After all, you do want to put an end to holocaust denial - don't you?


Remember what your man O'Neil said retardo:

"It does not matter how big the crime is as such - it could have been 800,000 people or one person - the detection, or forensic investigation, is exactly the same as long as the correct procedures are adopted... Not only did they [the Nazi's] dig up all the bodies, burnt them and ground the bones up, but... they have been intact there for the last 60 odd years," he said.

Yet the little faggot can't locate / prove the existence of so much as one single grave that contains so much as one single tooth or bone fragment at Sobibor or Treblinka.

NOT ONE!