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Old January 25th, 2014 #61
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That was a good read, Alex. I look forward to more in the future.
 
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That was a good read, Alex. I look forward to more in the future.
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.

Here's my thinking. Sports is akin to movies. Movie reviews are a proven to get people reading our stuff before they realize our perspective. That's an extremely effective way to penetrate a mind before they clamp down and reject our position. The verbal equivalent of the scene in Cabaret where they pull the camera back to reveal the sweetly singing boy is...gasp...a Nazi! They liked what a Nazi was doing! The Nazi was wholesome! No fair! You tricked us!

It scares them. But it wakes them too. Some of them. It never feels good to think you're wrong. You feel like a fool for being tricked. You feel angry about being lied to. That's how I felt about professional conservatives and the individualism they'd sold me after I lived in D.C. around blacks and saw the truth.

White men watch a lot of sports. There is a huge amount of debate over the types of things I mentioned in the review. Very few take the white side - openly. Of course, the other side accuses those who don't take the leftist position of being racist. But in my case, they're actually right.

It's a new approach that might be worth a little something.

I will certainly write on NFL stuff regularly, altho only game left this year.
 
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One can easily stream any NFL game (almost any sporting event) live online. I like the BBC or other European broadcasts; much lower-key analysis, rather than listening to hysterical incomprehensible nig laughter-babble, and you can see some foreign ads - like what people are seeing in the UK or Sweden or Holland or Poland these days, which in itself is interesting.
I have Comcast internet, but shit still "buffers" or goes out of sync when streaming - hell, even with jewtoob vids....
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It gives women perfect bodies, in my opinion. Perfect balance of muscle and shape. It sort of lathes off the fat without giving them undue articulation.
Yes it does. That, gymnastics & volleyball: gorgeous thighs & asses especially.
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I have Comcast internet, but shit still "buffers" or goes out of sync when streaming - hell, even with jewtoob vids....
There can be problems but generally it works pretty well. There are dozens of streams, if one isn't working another is. I keep a lot of tennis on, often in Italian or Spanish...good way to work on languages.
 
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There can be problems but generally it works pretty well. There are dozens of streams, if one isn't working another is. I keep a lot of tennis on, often in Italian or Spanish...good way to work on languages.
You know, I've heard about that sort of thing for years - "total immersion", like Mario Lemieux learning English by watching soap operas for hours on end - but I can't quite see how it works: I mean, if you don't know the language at all at the start, how the hell do you even begin to pick it up by osmosis?
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Really enjoyed reading that, Alex. Great stuff.

Have you done anything recently on Tebow? Man, did he ever fade quickly, at least as far as nationally media-hyped "Tebowmania". My theory is that if Tebow had been African-American, he would be playing in the NFL right now.

I'm not a writer, and I understand why you do it informally, but for original articles that will (hopefully) be widely disseminated, "Jew" is capitalized. Why give them the opportunity to "jew [sic]" you all the way through a piece?

Just a suggestion, your call either way of course. You just keep doing original articles, Butch. That's what you're good at.
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Don't like basketball any longer, and baseball is mostly just boring, altho sometimes soothing in the background.
Baseball is fun to play, but watching it is coma-inducing.

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Also, the US team has brought in a top-level German to turn its team into the real thing, and he has done that, by changing its culture.
The great Jurgen Klinsmann. If anyone can do it - and they can - it's him.
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Old January 29th, 2014 #69
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You know, I've heard about that sort of thing for years - "total immersion", like Mario Lemieux learning English by watching soap operas for hours on end - but I can't quite see how it works: I mean, if you don't know the language at all at the start, how the hell do you even begin to pick it up by osmosis?
Nah...he may have done that, but he LEARNED english by living it with people and being forced to speak it in daily life. That's the BEST way by far. You can study out of a book all you like, but that won't teach you all that much, except to read the language. I knew a girl in Germany, an American, who simply went over there and got a job as a waitress. She was fluent in a year. Whereas I had studied out of books, and I could barely get by if the other person was patient and spoke to me at retard level. You simply have to LIVE it. Watching it is not enough. Because you're not interacting. You don't have to produce anything.

But once you know the guts of a language fairly well, then I think listening does help some. Certain words and patterns are used over and over, and recognizing functional, practical stuff like that is the larger part of knowing a language - in a functional rather than academic sense.

We had a great post on here, I think it's on here, but I don't know where, showing that comparative few words make up the guts of most languages. Like 200 words is 40% of some language, and 2000 words is 90%. I've probably got that wrong. I know English has a far greater vocab than most languages. The difficulty is getting the verbs and declensions right, but for functional work, that stuff is irrelevant, it will come with use. Then you can read grammar books and get it right.

I would honestly say, looking back at my life, in which studying languages was such a large part of my formal studies, it was mostly a waste of time - if my intent were to FUNCTION in or functionally communicate in that language. If you're serious about that? You either go to France or speak french to french speakes 24 hours a day. There is no other serious way to do QUICKLY. Learning out of a book won't cut it.

Now, where word study DID pay off for me hugely is in my own PRIVATE study of English. I'd make lists of obscure words, I'd read every satirist out there, study their techniques, any word they used I hadn't come across I looked up. This worked BECAUSE i already had an excellent grasp of English. I could add baubles to basics.

Unless you are a genius, you simply cannot learn to speak functionally and English-level in foreign languages without being in that environment 24 hours a day and FORCED to use it, at least for several months. That's if you're a regular or smart person. Books alone or tapes or tv won't do the job. My mom who was ABD in Spanish said she eventually began to dream in Spanish. But she was also over in Spain, so she had the background to get to the level where you actually truly know the language.

I've made private studies of all the major European languages, but I'm far from fluent. I can just read a lot of words in a lot of languages. But that's not functional fluency, it just helps me read stuff I use editorially. Like, if something's in French or Dutch, I can make out a lot of it.

Another tip - watch movies with subtitles in, say, Dutch or Swedish. I've learned a lot this way. These are kind of off-German languages, so you already have a good base with Dutch if you know German OR English, and Swedish, if you know German. Russian and Greek - you have to know the Cyrilic alaphabet to get in the game on that one. But it's not too hard to learn, at least to where you can sometimes make out slogans on posters.

I'd say, I'm all about functionality. That's because when I went to school, I took some language classes past simple grammar, literature, and you're competing for grades with people almost all of whom grew up in a house where Spanish or German were spoken at least by one parent. These people are fluent. When you're like me, I learned it all out of a book. I couldnt be on that level if I studied nothing else. There's no point to it unless you really are into studying the literature. For me, English is it. The only language I mastered or have any deep interest in. Other languages are for reading. I don't feel I need to master German to get what Hitler or Schopenhauer or Nietzsche is saying, I grasp it just fine.

Day to day, I listen to Spanish mostly, if anything. It is simply easier to pick up than almost any language. But then again, I studied it more than any other language, about seven years in school. It's just not very hard to learn though.

So what I can summarize from my experience: if you're serious about learning a language, total immersion - by living over there and using it DAILY is the only way to go. Nothing out of a book ever can or will get anywhere ner that - those are just for looking up stuff to get it right, functionally you have to DO it to become truly fluent in it. Otherwise, don't kid yourself. You're just learning to read a different tongue.

"Had we world enough and time..." -- it's one of those things. I concluded, rather sadly, that my study of non-English languages would have been better spent elsewhere - studying religion, for example. Or taking more formal English classes to read more great stuff and get the System take on the author. But my study of English, in private, has been more than worthwhile, and will never end. You see what I mean...

http://www.tvonlinelive.net/Watch/TV...line-1048.html

I keep this on in background sometimes, just to try to get better at Spanish patterns... This is a semi-porn channel Miami TV, the broad does it half in English and half in Spanish and half-covered in a shirt. Also, they do run some kind of odd German porno in the other stream, so you can listen to German sometimes too... I don't really get where this stuff comes from, but the German porno channel is out of Austria, and the Miami TV is just kind of some local deal I guess, the broad runs around to car shows, clubs, zoos, art exhibits, just talks to people, and also does advice responses.

German is more difficult than Spanish, but it's not as hard as people like Twain claim it is. I really wish he hadn't exaggerated its difficulty.

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Baseball is fun to play, but watching it is coma-inducing.
Yes...but you don't watch it...you just have it on sometimes...it's soothing, like whale noises.

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The great Jurgen Klinsmann. If anyone can do it - and they can - it's him.
Yep...I follow him with great interest.

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I'd divide it like this:

Language knowledge breaks into three levels of increasing difficulty:

- read the language
- function in the language (speak it fluently, without having to THINK what you're doing)
- use the language artistically

The third the average guy has no use for. The second, if you want to learn it, buy a plane ticket and GO THERE. Or become a Mormon and go on a mission.

The third you can do out of a book alone, like masturbating.

What can I tell you?

I've only been alive once...

...and I'm not very good at it yet!

The most/quickest I ever progressed in a language, outside of BEING in Germany, was a THREE-HOUR DAILY summer course at University of Utah... which further strengthens our immersion thesis.

You can study out of a book all day long but it will just teach you to recognize words - to read.

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Trying to think of parallels...

Picking up women: read fifteen PUA manuals or go to a bar and try your hand? Which guy will be farther ahead after a year?

Learning guitar: reading a book or picking one up and trying to duplicate a sound?

There's a lot to be said for the impressionistic or Montessori method.

A lot of language is patterns, tones, non-verbal communications - altered facial features combined with, say, drawn out tones...people with musical sense can pick these up and copy them. A lot of communication is non-verbal. Books cant really communicate this. See how people actually react in real situations, then you know what you're dealing with and what to expect.

Like...Germans said "owww--aaahh" when hurt, where we would say "owww!"

Books simply cant really record how people actually use language, they're always too old and too formal for real life. See, a book will say Germans say "Nein!" but in real life, they'll tend to say nay, the ne, not the full nein.

Books are good for learning to decipher stuff in...other books. Good for learning formal rules and grammar and classic lines, perhaps, which great authors have delivered.

Functional language - you start with the words that are used most, and build out from that core, until you get to where you can handle abstract concepts.
 
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I'd divide it like this:

Language knowledge breaks into three levels of increasing difficulty:

- read the language
- function in the language (speak it fluently, without having to THINK what you're doing)
- use the language artistically

The third the average guy has no use for. The second, if you want to learn it, buy a plane ticket and GO THERE. Or become a Mormon and go on a mission.

The third you can do out of a book alone, like masturbating.

What can I tell you?

I've only been alive once...

...and I'm not very good at it yet!

The most/quickest I ever progressed in a language, outside of BEING in Germany, was a THREE-HOUR DAILY summer course at University of Utah... which further strengthens our immersion thesis.

You can study out of a book all day long but it will just teach you to recognize words - to read.
Good insights from someone who knows what he's talking about. I've long wanted to learn to speak/understand German, for ancestral reasons as much as Adolf reasons. I'd hoped that maybe Rosetta Stone, or one of the Pimsleur courses would cut the mustard, but apparently not.

Also thought about watching the Mexcrement channels on cable (basically the only free foreign ones): it might be good to pick up some of the lingo - but who the hell wants to be able to talk to speeks?
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Really enjoyed reading that, Alex. Great stuff.
Thanks, glad you liked it.

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Have you done anything recently on Tebow? Man, did he ever fade quickly, at least as far as nationally media-hyped "Tebowmania". My theory is that if Tebow had been African-American, he would be playing in the NFL right now.
I haven't written anything other than the mad blast the one time. And I had a little in this which is all I need to say other than I've never seen anything like it. I thought at WORST, even with him being blackballed, he would end up on a terrible team like Jacksonville, and at least get a chance to prove himself again. Though he already proved himself once. I defy, as I said, anyone to find another example where a guy came in, fired up the team the way he did, led them to the playoffs as he did, and then effectively got cashiered from the league. I cannot think of a single example. Nothing even remotely similar. I don't know what you could possibly attribute it to other than jewish racial attitudes towards whites and vocal christians. I'll repeat myself: if Tebow were black and got this treatment, the media would have screamed as one NON-STOP until he got a new starting job. You would have heard the outraged peals in Siberia. That, I guarantee. But Tebow won't defend himself, because of his christian views. He'll just say well god has some other plan. So it happens, and the Tebow haters gloat and the world moves on, some of us shaking our heads in confusion. I can say this: i detest christians of the Tebow type, but i LOVED watching that guy play - more than any other player. He was genuinely exciting.

He never was as bad as they said. It was as pure an example of bias as I have ever seen. Christ, when a even a jew reporter speculates there's blackballing going on, you know there's something going on.

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I'm not a writer, and I understand why you do it informally, but for original articles that will (hopefully) be widely disseminated, "Jew" is capitalized. Why give them the opportunity to "jew [sic]" you all the way through a piece?
It's politics. I don't capitalize it as a show of disrespect. I like what Eric Thompson says: jews are a criminal group, and we don't capitalize mafia, do we? Maybe that's a rationalization, but I simply don't care. I mean, why not go whole hog? I can never use 'jew' at all, and always call them 'the chewish peepul' in that sickening way. To me they're cheap, dirty jews. And furthermore, when you don't use capitals, you pick up the verb sense of jew - to haggle someone down. I think jew communicates my disrespect for this criminal clan: they're dirty, low, and undeserving of even grammatical respect.

Your opinion is perfectly valid, I just disagree. Spelling and grammar are important, but other things are occasionally more important, and I judge this to be one of those times.

Also, believe me, if this piece or one like it ever get into the blogs, people won't care how i spell jew. Caste Football has a real niche - but it's run by the usual hapless old-school fifties racial conservatives. Not radical enough. If you notice, I didn't use nigger in my article. I thought in this instance it might detract.

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I feel NFL is an untapped area. I plan to write a lot more often in the 2014 season. The problem I find is that most columns are 750 or 1000 words, and I can't even get started with that.

I don't know...I've never been a big fan of articles with lots of links in them... but, in writing the last couple, this and DC snipers, still not finished, I've come across so much stuff that I figure I might as well put it in, just in case someone is interested.

Yeah...that Tebow thing still weighs on me. Bits of the real story will creep out over time. People think these leagues are straight, but they're not. The games aren't precisely fixed, not very often, but they are in fact fairly closely controlled by what the leagues tell the officials to do before the games - and that is a subject you will virtually never see reported on. It's parallel to politics, in that what goes on behind the scenes is more significant than what happens in public view.

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Another area I'm pathetically weak in is parts of speech. I was a very lazy student, and when a subject was difficult or boring, I tuned it out; math is another. All I wanted to do was read & write what I wanted. Now I wish I'd been more attentive.
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Good insights from someone who knows what he's talking about. I've long wanted to learn to speak/understand German, for ancestral reasons as much as Adolf reasons. I'd hoped that maybe Rosetta Stone, or one of the Pimsleur courses would cut the mustard, but apparently not.
This is what I'm saying, though: do you want to READ german or be functional in it in real life?

The first you can do, you're a smart guy. The second, you can't really learn to do without going to German or some other way immersing yourself in German, not merely passively but actively. I don't believe that interactive tapes will do the job, I've used some of them. They'll help you recognize words some, but most of it will be simply too fast.

Here's a way to do it.

1) I'd say, get a basic grammar: learn 30 lessons, or whatever it is. Do the workbook exercises. write sentences in german, even if you have no one to correct them. When I was in Germany, I studied a learn-French book for Germans - dreissig stunde franzoesich (thirty hours french). BOOM, double-threat learning! You gotta be inventive. School is so limiting, it's all one kind of thinking but there are many ways to get things done. It's similar to exercising. It's not somethigng that takes place in a GYM ore requires EQUIPMENT. there are a million ways to work out your body.

2) torrent the, say, top 50 movies in German of the 20th century. get them with English soundtrack and German subtitles. read the subtitles. and listen to the german. then maybe try all-german. so you're watching last summer at marienbad, or nosferatu or metropolis - get it coming into you all ways. watch some german porn. some german workouts, some cooking shows, some talk shows. stuff where you know what people tend to say in that particular environment, then you latch on to how germans say that stuff. shit, i wrote stuff on toilet walls in germany, and then came back, and someone would have written something making wittier of mine... i'm not kidding. i scratched "Tod dem linken Schlangen" -- Death to Left-Wing Snakes! in one stall. this was a very commie university...in marburg...philipps universitat marburg ... and i came back and someone else had written "Aber was fur schlange Linken?" which literally means what about snakey leftists, but i suspect has some sexual entendre too. I call it FOUND LEARNING, says jerry. cereal boxes, bathroom stall, porn movies, chicks in leotards on mats shows, whatever, i dont care. it all helps you SEE what these kooky deutschers are up to - THEIR way of taking the world. all people are NOT the same.

3) take some American books you've read that are no more than medium difficulty, get a copy in German. Look up every word you don't know.

that way you can learn to read and recognize german. and you know some of tones.

People who are more extroverted, more mapped onto other people, are good with FUNCTIONAL language, they pick up almost instinctively on the FEEL in languages. We who are more INTROVERTED pick up the rules and grammar and precise, book-based stuff more easily. but then in real life we get trapped trying to say things right, rather than purely focus on communication, and forget the scold in our head. people who are dumber and less self-conscious have an easier time learning functionally, i think.

As for 3), i had no tv in Germany, and my classes weren't much. I had a lot of hours to fill. I got Steven King's Christine IN GERMAN and looked up EVERY WORD i didnt recognize. there were a million marks at the start...and not many at the end. That's one good way to learn the guts of the vocabulary.

But to become truly fluent, you're not doing that off any tape, believe me. When those shitheads say you'l be speaking german...yeah, you'll be speaking the ten sentences they teach you, that' not knowing the language.

I'd say set your goal to learn to read german, and you'll accomplish that easily enough. It will be work, but it's doable. And at the end, you can read newspapers and articles on line, with some pain. But dictionaries are online too now, so you can always check.

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Spanish is a white language. People forget that!

BTW, the point is not to speak to speeks, it's to spy on them.

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Focus on function. You want to read German? Then learn what the words mean. Sure, there are case changes, declensions. Four for adjectives. But pretty easy to recognize as reading. Now, speaking is different matter...

If you want functional fluency, no point unless you go there. And then you go back home, and no one speaks German. So what's the point? For fluency, spanish is the one to learn in the US. But you could learn to read German easily enough. You're learning to recognize words, not for tests, so no need to worry about fine points.

My experience sums up to - I think the functional approach is better. Just fucking grab that language and make it your bitch. Watch movies with subtitles. Listen to all you can. Go straight to the German and just look up any word you dont know. Focus less on the intellectual knowledge and preparation - 30 lessons is enough. Learn the basic grammar and few hundred words. Then go to the real material - books, magazines, films. Torrent films, get Spiegel online, print out stuff from German paper, like local.de online. Look up any words you dont know.

i mean, i studied german formally for three years, and if you gave me a grammar test, i'd make bushels of Fehlers. even fehler i'm not sure - fehler is mistake, but i can remember if it's also the plural or its Fehlers. but for reading, who cares? you'll recognize stuff quick enough, then you've got the basics.
 
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Yeah! Gotta watch those sneaky li'l shits....

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i wrote stuff on toilet walls in germany, and then came back, and someone would have written something making wittier of mine... i'm not kidding. i scratched "Tod dem linken Schlangen" -- Death to Left-Wing Snakes! in one stall. this was a very commie university...in marburg...philipps universitat marburg ... and i came back and someone else had written "Aber was fur schlange Linken?" which literally means what about snakey leftists, but i suspect has some sexual entendre too.
Ha! A couple of months ago I wrote 2 messages on the crapper wall of the local Shoney's: "JEWS Opened Our Borders!" & "WHITE MAN! www.vnnforum.com"

Both are still there.....

Hey, why not - especially when one of the other important missives is "I like wearing bras & panties and getting fucked in the ass" ?
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Yeah! Gotta watch those sneaky li'l shits....



Ha! A couple of months ago I wrote 2 messages on the crapper wall of the local Shoney's: "JEWS Opened Our Borders!" & "WHITE MAN! www.vnnforum.com"

Both are still there.....

Hey, why not - especially when one of the other important missives is "I like wearing bras & panties and getting fucked in the ass" ?
Ha. Well, I sent the link to Grantland, which has a lot of ESPN/mainstream NFL analysis. I'm pretty sure the editors will read it, though I doubt they will mention or respond to it. Can't hurt, anyway.

If any of you jamokes routinely visit or post at caste football, I'd appre--

fuck it, I'll do it. WTF is wrong with me? lol.
 
Old January 29th, 2014 #80
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Slightly off topic but the site duolingo.com seems to be pretty good for learning some of the basics of languages.
 
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